1.06.2009

GMAC Bowl chatter

1/6/09, EVENING

Due to interest in Tulsa's GMAC Bowl appearance, we're creating this thread to discuss Gus Malzahn's final game before taking over Auburn's offense tomorrow.

Here are Tulsa's final numbers:

Tulsa def. Ball State, 45-13

RUSHING: 439
PASSING: 193
TOTAL OFFENSE: 632
TIME OF POSSESSION: 35:40
THIRD DOWNS: 9 of 18
TURNOVERS: 0
PENALTIES: 0

433 comments:

  1. Hopefully 2nd half will be better.

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  2. What's everybody complaining about? ... Tulsa scored 24 points in a half ... it took us 6 weeks to do that last fall.

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  3. I wouldnt be watching at all if not for the Z factor.

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  4. Only saw the first score by Tulsa. More pints than we sored in just about every game.

    How has Tulsa looked?

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  5. Yes it did Jet yes it did.

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  6. I never thought Powers was seriously considering leaving early. I was very surprised and disappointed to see his announcement. I wish him well. I really enjoyed watching him play, and he seems like a great guy.

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  7. I haven't been watching ... still playing around with this Ted Roof stuff.

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  8. Tulsa has an offense that appears to require sound quarterback play. Should we be concerned?

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  9. Jay, are you having a hard time finding out info regarding Roof or confirmation from Auburn?

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  10. Jet,
    I know no ones complaining about Tulsa scoring compared to Auburn scoring....

    P-L-E-A-S-E don't anybody go there!!!!

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  11. I was joking Emmett. But I do hope that Todd is able to get well and do something to help AU next season.

    And he really did have a couple of 5 yd runs against LSU.

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  12. Coosa ... somebody has to carry the clipboard.

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  13. Naw, Kathy, just trying to learn more about the guy ...

    One thing about him: He's old-school.

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  14. repost... i didnt realize we switched threads...
    NICE Aubie!

    But, I have to admit, I'm quite disappointed in ABC. This is the first year Scrubs was on ABC, and they've messed up Scrubs majorly. This has ruined my day. Scrubs was my metaphorical light in the tunnel of life's stresses.
    I need a lift. Malzahn's crew better drop 70.

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  15. Cotton,
    Pleased with ABC Scrubs treatment so far.
    Good to see Bham's own CeeCee Cox as Chief of Medicine.
    Kelso's still hanging in the cafeteria

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  16. Yes Jetzilla - be concerned.

    But then the only offense that doesn't require a good QB was the one we ran in 1972.

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  17. I see where the DE from IN that we were after, at one time, committed to UGA. Is this old news?

    Mon, what have you heard from the road warriors.

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  18. So Gus is on the sideline and Hand is up in the booth. We can't have Trooper in the booth. We need his excitement.

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  19. Jay ...

    When you say Roof's "old school," does that mean we'll find him streaking at Toomer's Corner?

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  20. I don't see it as a problem ... Trooper can help coach in the booth, then rappel down from the press box to the sideline in time to the beat the snap so the he may effectively wave a towel, chest bump, and handle other important administrative duties.

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  21. no posts for 2 minutes. must be halftime bathroom break or raiding the fridge

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  22. Chris Todd has all the potential to be the second coming of Jeff Klein...If he tried really hard

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  23. I heard they are recruiting Eltoro Freeman to handle the carrying of Troop up and down the steps to the press box between offensive plays. Gotsta keep those legs warm!

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  24. Emmett ...

    I know Jeff Klein. I watched Jeff Klein. Jeff Klein is a friend of mine. Chris Todd is no Jeff Klein.

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  25. How did Washington ever find a helmet big enough for Brock Huard's head...maybe thats why he is so smart...hmmm

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  26. Just read where rivals had Roof as one of their defensive coordinators of the year for minnesotas turnaround on d. They lead the big 10 in takeaways with 30.

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  27. Its not too bad. If it was a game on a weekend, I might have thought for a minute or two about going down there. Just for a minute or too.

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  28. You can't stop Chris Todd, you can only hope to contain him.

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  29. Need an OL coach that has knowledge of a hurry up no huddle offense, and a few Offensive Linemen! Hope Gus has someone special in mind.

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  30. Emmett ...

    Thanks for letting me know that was Brock Huard. I was confused ... I thought it was Ivan Drago.

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  31. You can't start Chris Todd, only Tony Franklin can.

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  32. BigMike - that suit is varying shades of poopy brown.

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  33. I do hope Todd's arm gets better because he is a good decision maker, but without a much improved arm, he will do just like this season, he will be good the first 3 or 4 games and run out of gas. Either he gets his arm healed or we need a different QB.

    I can see Kodi running a lot in this offense, but I would worry a lot about his decision making. Hopefully they can coach him up.

    I would like to see Caudle get a shot, but I don't think he can run that well.

    As for Trotter, I don't know enough about him.

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  34. Klein had the arm, but nowhere near the smarts of Todd.

    If only Randy Walls still had some eligibility left - now he could have been a super spread QB.

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  35. Somehow we need to sew some quarterback parts together. I will settle for sewing Todd's head on Kodi's body and going with that.

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  36. If Todd can't throw seeds at the first day of spring ball, we need to thank him and ask him whether he would like to transfer to a lesser division school, or go on medical hardship.

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  37. I will go on record predicting that Todd will be our QB by our BCS game next season.

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  38. Brock has less chin but more Forehead than The Siberian Bull...last time I saw him...ESPN had him calling a Kids Football Game some random Weekend...I guess Lou Holtz and Mark May are out celebrating Lou's 72nd Bday

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  39. QB play in any offense is critical, some more than others. I think personalities of Malzahn and Franklin will be difference in last years offense and next years. Just a guess but Malzahn seems more of a players coach. You can still be demanding and be a players coach, he seems like that kind of coach to me.

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  40. If nothing else, I would keep Todd as a player coach. The guy knows what to do. His body just isn't letting him do it.

    Does anyone know much about Trotter. I know people got excited about him after they broke up with Kodi. I just don't know enough about Trotter, other than his Brady hairstyle.

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  41. I'll agree with that Jet. If his arm's not back, we need the scholly.

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  42. Jetzilla, I don't think Todd has a chance of participating in spring practice. Not a chance of getting over the surgery by then.

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  43. Zteve you must not have seen Caudle run. He has wheels. Just erratic with some throws

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  44. Alright, I've gotta say. That 2nd episode won me over. The deep, sad Scrubs are a nice change-up from the norm. I could have just done without the offing of Janitor.

    And yes, I realize maybe only two people at the most here havce any idea what I'm taling about.

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  45. Above all, I'll take a smart QB any day. Randy Campbell was one of the best quarterbacks we have had because he made smart decisions. Of course, when you have Lionel James, Tommy Agee, and some guy named Bo lined up behind you, decision making gets easier.

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  46. I guess I didn't have tix to the 3 or 4 games that Todd played good...maybe A-Day?

    Isn't Jeff Klein working in the NFL as some sort of strength/ conditioning consultant?

    Huard looks like a Gremlin crossed with George Hamilton.

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  47. AUBigCat, I thought Caudle had knee problems?

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  48. Todd played very well until the second half against LSU. By that time his arm was about done. Our issues early in the season were bonehead plays, primarily jumping offsides and fumbles.

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  49. I don't care who starts next year as long as we don't have a repeat of the man love everyone had for Kodi as he made poor decision after poor decision. I say that if the quarterbacks come out of spring training even, go with Trotter.

    Now back to the monsoon in Mobile.

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  50. Trotter ran the Franklin style/short pass spread in HS, but he can run...His issue is that he does not have a big arm, he was better at throwing timed passes if he went long...but the kid could sell one heck of a play fake

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  51. If Kodi can make some major improvements next year, we could win 7 games. Anyone other than a healthy Todd and we might repeat this season.

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  52. Todd's arm never looked that good, by the way. He was just getting the ball to the right places. It was very evident that his arm wasn't going to hold out though.

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  53. Will, just go back and watch the tape of the first half of the TN game - Todd was perfect on 29 of 30 plays. CTF said so.

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  54. did it rain in mobile yet.....ha. good lord!

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  55. There are nine people in the stands.

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  56. i told you guys the Rain was headed that way!!!

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  57. Caudle ran great last summer. He did have knee problems but he looked like he was over them.

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  58. Jet and Coosa: Please identify and describe an offense that DOES NOT require sound QB play.

    Thanks.

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  59. Wow, the weather has gotten seriously bad in Mobile. Tulsa runs and option play and makes a first down.

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  60. Jay would it be to hard to get us hotties an update on kids who had surgery .
    Frenchy
    Savage
    Blackmon
    Ziemba
    Todd
    I am sure I missed a couple.

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  61. They have had to Duct Tape Caudle back together the last few years... between his knees,Shoulder and Thumb he has lost some of his touch

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  62. It passed my house about 15 mns ago

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  63. did you just hear that crowd erupt on that play!

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  64. Tulsa is looking pretty good in the rain!

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  65. Phred ...

    I guess my sarcasm didn't ooze through.

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  66. I would say that too if I were the J.A. who was responsible for our offense. I have nothing against Toss, he just never seemed like and AU guy to me (I know that sounds cheesy). I want kids who want to be here and want to be an Auburn Tiger. I realize this is far fetched in today's instant gratification society, but a guy can dream can't he?

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  67. I am with you Denny. People got all excited about Kodi, but in terms of passing, he was a disaster early in the season. He improved some after he was the starter, but he never looked comfortable in the offense and tended to try to run too quick. Hopefully the coaches can work with him. He has a lot of potential.

    Auburn has a history of falling in love with the backup QB. Believe it or not, at one time people were wanting Cox to replace Campbell. Cox had ungodly numbers in the spring, like 100% completions in some scrimmages.

    The thing with quarterbacks is you can't play them until they are ready. We damaged Campbell by trying to play him too soon and a guy named Dwight Freeney at Syracuse schooled him. It took a while for him to get over it.

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  68. awlkdjasflkj asdfj fsajsf

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  69. Let's channel Oran "Juice" Jones.

    I saw Tulsa U. walkin' in the rain.

    This is my world.
    You're just a squirrel
    Tryin' to get a nut.

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  70. Is that Ladd Peeplez since Malzahn is there?

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  71. I have been having difficulty with my sarcasm radar lately. My mistake.

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  73. atlanta, I heard both of them screaming at the top of their lungs!

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  74. I love the mud bowls. This is where you find out who the men are.

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  75. Phred - I already did - AU in 1972. Walls started as sophomore, had no experience and very little ability. About all he had to do was turn and hand it to Henley. And we went 10-1.

    Wouldn't recommend trying that offense in this day and age.

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  76. Guys....
    That was "Slick" as hell....

    In all this rain Tulsa is still scoring!!!

    BTW... Rain has stopped at my house so it should stop in about 10 minutes.

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  77. That was not the crowd, just Andre Ware Crying about something else

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  78. he is winning a lot....
    I was tempted to go bring him some cheese n wine to go with it!!!

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  79. WTC,

    Izauea Lanier - Looking at him at corner. Lolley in school visited him

    Malzahn in home visit for Clint Moseley on Monday

    Visited DE Ed Stinson today in Homestead, FL. He's a strong commit to bama, but said is listening

    Willis set to visit Anthony Gulley tomorrow

    Lolley visited Fletcher Cox today (a Miss State commit) May be visiting the Plains - he's the Rivals #5 weakside DE in the country

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  80. The thing is, I don't think we have to have an outstanding offense to have a good season. Heck, if we can score three touchdowns a game we will beat most teams.

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  81. We need a wide receiver named Slick Shelley. All the good teams have one.

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  82. you're confusing your porn and your football

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  83. somebody call 911 and get Andre Ware a waaaambulance.

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  84. Anyone remember the 1989 Auburn-Tennessee game? Looked just like this game.

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  85. Thanks for the info Monica.

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  86. Hot-Lanta ... I'm trying to forget that one.

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  87. Mon, which recruits did they put the Trooper and the Luper on?

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  88. Jay G.
    You telling me.... i'm here listening to it pound my hot Ted Roof....
    Bahahahahahaaha!!!!

    That was Funny

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  89. Yea that was a rough night, but this game reminds me of that one. HOw about the rainstorm that hit this year against southern miss...remember when we all thought we were good.

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  90. Malzahn visited me and asked me to start posting at AL.com. I told him to go screw himself, I am a strong HABOTN commit.

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  91. this is just a light mist compared to '83 iron bowl

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  92. Trooper to Stinson presumably per Bryan Matthews

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  93. Michael,
    no way that was Guz....

    Must have been Satan!!!! on Al.com

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  94. How would Cotton or Moseley do in Malzahn's offense? Both are more athletic than David Johnson.

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  95. I will never get why coaches run so much of the "Wildcat"/WingT ...It seems like it either works big, or it screws up your drive

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  96. Anonymous9:17 PM

    I just saw the score and will read briefly to catch up. I have heard Wildcat formation twice in 2 minutes.

    Does this mean we will see a WildTiger?

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  97. Mon.
    I understand Atchinson is visiting this weekend to Auburn....

    Do you have an official Visitor list for this weekend?

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  98. I think Cotton would be a great fit for our new O

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  99. TarHeel, I was at that Iron Bowl. We went under a Tornado Warning at the beginning of the 3rd qtr. I wasn't about to leave. Bo was having an outstanding game!

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  100. Michael - that's an ugly rumor to start about Gus. He would nevah recruit for al.scum. Take it back.

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  101. We need to remember that this was Kodi's first year as a starter and he only got about 1/2 a year at that. He should show improvement this year just like Campbell and Cox had to learn and improve. If he shows improved judgement and accuracy, he should start hands down. There is just no substitute for experience in the SEC

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  102. Please God Dont let us call it the WildTiger...We can come up with something cooler than that

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  103. It wasn't Gus Malzahn. It was his cousin, Petertwistle Malzahn. You thought I was talking about Gus? No way. But Petertwistle, yeah, that guy is hardcore AL.com.

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  104. Don't get to excited about running QBs. The thing is, we need a passing QB that can run, rather than a running QB that can pass. The passing down the field makes a lot of this work.

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  105. Kathy, my friend had a poncho big enough for him, me, and my wife to sit under. The bammer section emptied out when it started raining sheets of water sideways. Me and Mrs THT's favorite game.

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  106. Al.Com is run by Satan and even worse....Finebaum

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  107. How about the "Bald Eagle or Wild Eagle Formation"

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  108. I liked the War Eagle formation

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  109. I was at the 83 IB too. The only time in my life I've sat thru a rain like that. Lots of the bammers left; they knew they were doomed.

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  110. AUBigCat - Cox got worse with time

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  111. Thats why we brought in Kodi

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  112. wow that field drains really swell

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  113. Anonymous9:24 PM

    We have that rain here but it is flipping 33 degrees.

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  114. AUBigCat, I agree about the experience and I really hope Kodi can be the guy. If not Kodi, Todd. The other thing I want to see is us get a backup QB experience, and I mean someone that has plenty of elligibility left. Auburn continually does the autoscrew by not developing a backup quarterback and then the offense turns into a well organized circle jerk for half a season while a new QB gets experience.

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  115. Monica do you think we make final run at Pat Patterson?

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  116. It sounds like they are running w/ tap shoes on.

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  117. No, Mobile, I don't have a visit list. You're welcome to share it with me if you like.

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  118. Anonymous9:25 PM

    That was a nasty camera angle if I may say so.

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  119. I was a freshman at the 83 tornado IB... with strep throat. Wasn't about to miss that for anything.

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  120. Emmett, Cox was very good. He just had nothing around him. He looked bad at times because he had to try to be the playmaker since we had none. He wasn't great, but Cox was a good QB. If we had him this season, we would have likely won 9 games.

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  121. Zteve - Many Years I would not even call it well organized for half the year

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  122. With Gus's offense, I like the throws down the field. Stretching the field opens up the running game even more. Also, having a QB that can run when needed is a plus.

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  123. without a doubt, BigCat! We make a solid run at him.

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  124. Wild Shaft

    Z Force

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  125. Glad to see you posting, Paladin. Welcome to the HABOTN!

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  126. The camera guys can't read the fakes now. So it's going to be wide-angle viewing for the rest of the night ...

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  127. Emmett Cox had medical issues that limited him. I still say that in a 2 min offense, Cox was one of the best Ive seen on the Plains.

    Zteve you are right, we have to have a solid backup developed.

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  128. Anonymous9:27 PM

    They need paddles.

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  129. Anyone know what the weather is supposed to be like in Mobile tonight?

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  130. Last time it rained like that Noah went and built hisself a boat.

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  131. Ben Tate excited about Gus.

    Greg if you ever wear Old Spice anything we're going to have trouble.

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  132. Cox would have had many of the same problems this year that Todd did.
    Cox had a good head on his shoulders his JR Year, When he had more talent around him....Then he was so hurt and beat up his Sr. year he did not have the same presence

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  133. The issue with Cox was too fold. First, he was getting the ever lovin snot beat out of him due to an inexperienced offensive line.

    Then there was something similar to what I saw with Jason Campbell in 2003. I remember telling someone to just watch the game and count the dropped passes. Suddenly their opinion of Campbell changed.

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  134. Ladd Stadium does not handle water well

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  135. My car was parked in someone's yard 15-cars deep at Legion Field. I was afraid we would be stuck in the mud. I am so glad we don't play there any more. Thank you Pat Dye!

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  136. Cox had a decent arm. I still can't believe his body stood up to the beatings with that disease he had. He was truly one of the most gutsy QBs we have had.

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  137. Anonymous9:31 PM

    Sounds like they are running with flippers on.

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  138. Anyone have info of OL recruits? Appears that could be a trouble area in a couple of years, considering we did not sign any in 2008. To run smash mouth/spread, we'll need some that are big and quick.

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  139. I can't believe that I would be excited about a bowl game with Ball State playing Tulsa, but his is a pretty good matchup. If Ball State hadn't committed stupicide, this would be much closer.

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  140. That offense even works in a pond!!

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  141. I think we have 4 or 5 linemen commits, although some need to grow into their frame. We likely need a couple of more commits. I am counting on someone like Bart Eddins stepping up. Hopefully Ramsey will come back too.

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  142. Paladin, we have 3 OL committed and we need more. We need at least 1 put OT!

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  143. AJ Greene got praise from Tubs and staff. He moved over from DE.

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  144. Well GoodNight All...I must go prepare for the flood coming this way from Mobile...War Eagle

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  145. BigCat, the only position developed more poorly at AU the last 10 years than QB is back-up QB. Okay, I won't mention WR.

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  146. Hey,
    Just think during one Tropical Storm in a 24 hour period it settle over Mobile Bay and dumped 30 inches of rain on Mobile....

    I had just sodded a portion of my back yard and a week later my grass wet rotted!

    Told you guys it would stop in a few minutes!

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  147. I hope recruits are watching game tonight.

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  148. g'night Emmett WDE

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  149. Al least one of out OL recruits doesnt need to grow anymore. Andre Harris is 6'4 327!

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  150. 37 Freaking points on a wet field..... I'm stoked about the future....

    Cigar anyone!!!!

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  151. Depressed you are sooooo right!

    I love Tubs but I think he felt like offense was what you did to past the time until the defense got back on the field. He just didnt seem to give much attention to anything but RBs and OL

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  152. Wow, imo - heaping big praise on Cox the 8th year Senior. Another nice guy that never made a decent read at the line. Maybe it was weak talent around him but at some point the QB steps up and makes everyone better around him.

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  153. Just got back in from the game....just got out of there before the bottom fell out. Not near about as much showmanship on the sidelines. The plays were called on a board for the most part it appeared. Also like the fact the middle of the line has a hand down and not doing the meercat look.

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  154. y'all are dead up in here tonight!

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  155. Mon,
    I was at that Game with Leftwitch and the bum leg!!!!

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  156. AUnMobilez pace yourself. Remember that Ball St gave up 40+ to Buffalo

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  157. Mon,
    I'm with you still i saw the Marshall promo!!!

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  158. Sorry but the whole "just don't screw it up QB" mindset doesn't work. We need a leader at the position, the field OC.

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  159. Omnica ... we are merely overwhelmed by your omnipotence.

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  160. Montez Robinson commits to UGA.....

    Grrrrrr!

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  161. Hey an AU fan gets some airtime!

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  162. That was a great game. I loved Leftwhich. I loved seeing him take over for Rothlessweenie for the Steelers the other day.

    Did you see the game when Marshall played Akron and he hurt his leg so bad he couldn't walk and his team mates carried him down the field to the huddle? Wow. That's a kid with guts.

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  163. Jet - That makes sense.

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  164. I sure did Monnay!

    I just want a QB with some gumsho!

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  165. BigCat, I still have nightmares(as I'm sure he does also), of watching Cox being pounded on in the infamous '06 UGA game at JH. I knew then that Field would never see another snap at AU. I thought Cox wouldn't make it to the Bama game.

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  166. The days of Leftwhich, Pennington, Moss at Marshall were fun games.

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  167. Yea Robinson committing to UGA sux but at least we get Coleman back! Raven Gray better get it together

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  168. holy cow; forget the coaches, get us some of those players!

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  169. Hey, everybody. Been watching the monsoon bowl... That BBQ made me hungry.

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  170. 347 yards on the ground.

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  171. 340+ yards on the ground!!!!

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  172. I saw a lot of Auburn love in the stands tonight. I think everyone was wanting to check it out.

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  173. Ball State's undefeated season has suddenly become very Bammeresk.

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  174. Mon,
    Can Darius Johnson come to Auburn with Malzahn?

    I want "Frenchy" to do that!!!!!

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  175. QB needs to run-----caudle, tortter

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  176. My gut tells me Raven Gray's knee won't ever allow him to be a major factor.

    YEA!!! Clemson 61 UA-T 47

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  177. So anyone think Rodney Scott is wondering if he made the right decision after seeing one of Tulsa's RB's go over 200 yards tonight?

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  178. Man this is the best recruiting tool we could have asked for!!! And it happened in Mobile too.

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  179. I didn't see but that drive -- it replayed at 2 am ---- but um, is it raining on his spread?

    Are they running the ball?

    WHO HAS HE ASKED TO COME FROM TULSA?

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  180. Can anyone read lips? I could have sworn I just saw Gus Malzahn say "Who's your daddy, Who's your daddy....".

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  181. Anonymous9:54 PM

    340 rushing yards and counting in the 4th quarter.

    Impressive.

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  182. Rodney Scott lost out. Come on Bryce Brown!!!

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  183. I hope coach Malzahn doesn't mince words and uses the time on the TV to say things like --- "If it hadn't rained...." and "This was nothing...."

    Can he do that NCAA-legally?

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  184. If I were Rodney Scott, I would re-think my decision. Ole Miss has a lot of tailback talent. I think he would have a better shot at Auburn.

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  185. AUnMobilz, I saw that on Robinson. What really stung was reading the comments he had about Garner recruiting him. Garner was also the recruiter for Branden Smith, the DB from GA. I am trying to get over my Garner-love, but man it's hard to do.

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  186. Way to represent, Cowboy! I was hoping there would be some orange love in the stands.

    Mobile - You need to run over there and recruit some of those fellas!

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  187. Clemson has opened up a King Size Can of Whoopa$$ on Bama.....

    Damn twice in one week.... Sucks to be them, huh!!!

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  188. Monay,
    Why would i leave the comfort of my dry den and chatting with all the HOTTIES!!!!

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  189. One thing I am loving is that Tulsa has zero penalties. This season I felt like we were lucky to make it through the coin toss without a penalty.

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  190. For the cause! For the love of Auburn! MAN UP!

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  191. Anonymous10:00 PM

    Mobile, all the Bama fans I know are hoping for a basketball meltdown so the can jettison CMG.

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  192. Andre Ware looks like a televangelist in that suit

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  193. That is a Hideous suit Andre Ware has on!!!

    Gawd it's U-G-L-Y!!!

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  194. Monnie,

    Not Even for SATAN type Money!!!!!

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