This makes sense. It isn't the perfect place for him, but it will be interesting. Taking over one of the top programs in the nation that is troubled by a very politically incorrect coach makes sense. The real question is if Tuberville will allow the wide open offense to continue.
I doubt you will see TT jumping around much. It just seems to me that he wants somewhere to settle down. I certainly could be wrong, but I think he just enjoys coaching.
Interesting, but things will change once the season draws closer. A lot will depend upon what happens between now and then, but I am guessing we will be in the top 25 or close to it.
We don't have a lot of question marks on this team, but what happens at QB will influence a lot.
Whether Etheridge returns and how many of the recruits actually make it to fall camp could also influence things.
Besides, preseason polls are pretty much meaningless.
Wow, they have TCU at number 6. That is pretty surprising. I don't see how you rank a team which is going through a head coaching change so high. Who knows what that team will look like next season.
I hope it is true about Tubs going to TTU I wish him well and think he will do a good job. Smart people learn from their mistakes and I think Tubs is very smart.
I just hope he finds a solid OC and gets to establish his defense. Tech could be very good if they can build on the talent that is there and start playing some D.
Lebo is very fortunant that I am not in Jacobs shoes. This SC game, at home, would have been a must win game for him to see Sunday morning as Auburn Basketball coach.
Steve.... basketball team losing was fully expected...
kathy, I had heard that Willis was a condidate for DC at Louisville under Charlie strong... so him going to TT to be Tubs DC isn't that much of a stretch... it could happen. Watching who Tubs fills out his staff with out there will be interesting to see...
Sorry I couldn't b around earlier. I'm working both jobs today. At least the hospital here has wifi so can stay on the habotn. So do we hav an estimated fire date for Lebo yet?
Tuberville, 55, became a strong candidate when it was determined he would not insist on hiring his own staff, a source told ESPN.com's Maisel. Tuberville also will not cost Tech a contract buyout.
USF and TT seem to be very similar programs. Teams with no success until the most recent regime (in USF's case thats the only regime) neither program has much class. Both are considered to be 2nd tier programs in a very talent rich state.
I think if Tuberville controls the D and let someone else control the Offense he will be successful at TT, and would have been at USF if he had done the same.
Tuberville, who didn't insist on his hiring his own staff, achieved a negotiating coup when he gained a contract clause that guarantees him three weeks off in December for duck hunting.
Tuberville, 55, became a strong candidate when it was determined he would not insist on hiring his own staff, a source told ESPN.com's Maisel. Tuberville also will not cost Tech a contract buyout.
I'm for a change ... but announce it late Feb., then crank up the search ... Jay G's right. There's no interim nearby. Fishback has never coached, has he?
What that tells me is that he was desperate to coach to hand over the staff. As for Jay Jacobs, he has about as much to do with Tubs' buyout as you did.
I'm happy he's employed, but I'm not optimistic about his success at Tech. Then again, my lack of Tubs love is known in these parts.
Jet, I seem to recall that Tubs' last renegotiation after the '07 season caused some serious disagreement on the whole 'buyout' thing - as in, Tubs wanted AU on the hook but himself off of it. That may just be unfounded rumor, but it sounds plausible.
The whole 'I won't make any staff demands' promise definitely feels a slap in AU's face.
And I agree, I'm happy for him if it's what he wants. He deserves a tremendous amount of credit for that fantastic 2004 season, no matter what happened before or after that.
But I have my doubts whether he'll ever achieve even the level of success that Leach did at TTU.
Great....Home alone with the 2yr old till the am and I think I just broke my foot. Running around playing and stepped on a big blue ball and heard a pop.
Just got back from Auburn (it was wonderful!!) At the Auburn Wal-Mart I only saw 2 bammies. But, we stopped at the Wal-Mart in Sylacauga for some Ben & Jerry's and that place was covered up! I never saw so many bammies in one place in my life!
I can walk and move my toes it's just really sore. Wish I could elevate it but one key part of my post was "Home alone with TWO YEAR OLD". She is a hand full and doesn't sit for more than 30-40 seconds at a time. Going to throw on some Baby Einstein and see if I can get a few minute break.
Why do you have to have an interim coach on staff? Run a promotion to increase attendance... 10 minutes prior to every game, a random fan could be chosen as the coach for that night's game.... What would be the difference?
I tried to go to Dick's Sporting Goods and Academy today searching for a particular item that wifey wanted....
Holy crap that was a mistake. I am certain both establishments had exceeded the fire code with people buying champeenship gear and houndstooth undies (yes, disturbing)... but, I only saw about 6 teeth in the whole bunch...
Needless to say, I didn't get what I went for, and it took me 2 hours to get out... for a while today, that was my own personal little hell....
I sprayed some windex on it. I think I am fine. Walmartians anyone? There goes the timer, just fixed the future AU womens golfer some cheesburger mac. Anyone want some?
Love the Windex treatment! I haven't fixed cheeseburger mac in forever. We are having a California Pizza Kitchen white cheese and spinach pizza with Ben & Jerry's ice cream for dessert.
Golfing is the way to go. Big scholarships for girls.
scooped by Miller. So it's official from now on bammers are to be called walmartians. I'm sure that will last just like the no talking about ex-coach thing. Even G broke the rules. We need someone to step up and keep track of the violations.
Re: Lebo- Why are we worried about coaching experience for our interim coach? Our current one appears not to have coached basketball for several years.
Re: recruits at all-star games wearing AU hats- From reading the notes that went along with the photos, it looks like they were enjoying attention from AU fans more than they were expressing undying devotion to the Auburn Creed and all it stands for. High school seniors can be attention whores, is all I'm sayin'. I wouldn't read too much into it.
Lebo had some incredibly bad luck his first few years and I was willing to give him a pass.
I don't follow BBall very closely, but even I can see how poorly coached we are. That's really not excusable after 5 full years and 1/3 way into the 6th.
cincy if you have room in your bag add lemonier to that. I think we finishe with Latt, Mack, Whitaker, Lemonier, Beasley and B. Jones. Top 5 class that will win a MNC before they leave Auburn.
Hoopie, I loved Lebo when he came. He let some problem children go and cleaned house. He then dealt with depth and injuries without complaining. Then last year I thought we had finally turned a corner. Then he signs a very respectable class in the early period this year. With all that said the product that is on the court right now is horrible and for that I don't think he can last another year. Mike Anderson come on down.
Tubs is regarded as a very good coach most everywhere ...except in certain Auburn circles. Lowder and his cronies spread rumors, inuendo and exaggerations for years. Some AU folks eventually fell for it and started believing anything they heard. CEO's understand how to use disinformation. Arthur Blank BS'd the Atlanta folks regarding Petrino in the same way.
Tubs is more suited to a aTm type situation, than in Lubbock. We'll see how this goes. If it doesn't go well, he will probably fade into the sunset.
Hoopie, I'd be more inclined to believe that the 'rumors, inuendo and exaggerations' were just that, if it weren't for the fact that the same thing happened to Tubs while he was at Ole Miss.
Had a close relative tell me that Tubs was getting the AU job before Bowden had even quit. How did he know? He knew the pilot who flew him to Montgomery to meet with Lowder to talk about it.
I just read where Arkansas' offensive line coach Mike Summers will be taking a similar position at Kentucky. When is the last time Kentucky swiped a coach from Arkansas?
Steve- Texas Tech was basically nothing before Leach got there, so the fact that Tubs record was better at Auburn is not surprising at all. Make no doubts about it, Leach was the best coach that Texas Tech ever had. He built the program to where it is. Can Tubs take it any further? We will see. It will be quite an accomplishment if he can win a championship there...I don't think he will.
I imagine Arky is a tough place to be a o line coach, they do things differently then virtually every other program out there. Plus you have to deal with slime ball Petrino.
Tubs had agreed to be Auburn's next coach -- in 1997. He was a good coach who had a couple of great seasons, had an incredible agent, and got very complacent.
As for Texas Tech, I seriously find it hard to believe that even anyone with a passing knowledge of football would believe they play a tougher schedule than Auburn.
Rk- If Tubs was smart, he should try to keep most of the offensive staff intact and gut the defensive staff IMO. I would keep the OC who it was, even though I know Leach was calling the shots, I think the guy who has been with Leach for awhile can pretty much run a pretty good offense similar to what Leach was doing.
One of the truly fun parts is people that are really uneducated enough to believe Tuberville was complacent. The firing of Borges and hiring of Franklin isn't something a complacent coach would do. It is laughable to say otherwise.
Steve- I'm going to pretend you just didn't say that...
No offense, but as bad as we were STEVE, we were in the SEC Championship game just a year before Tubs was named HC. That is an idiotic statement for even you Steve.
Ridiculous comment Steve. Auburn went undefeated once already in the 90's before Tubs got there. Auburn is a higher level program now than we were when he got here, but Auburn was definitely on a higher level than Tech.
I really don't know enough about the Texas Tech coaching staff to guess at what changes should be made. I do know that they will have a tough time if Tuberville goes back to his conservative offensive ways. College football has changed and I believe Tuberville was attempting to change with it. We will just have to see.
Yes, we were in the SECCG the year before, mainly because of Craig. But do you remember the 3-8 team? Hello!!! Was anyone around for that season. When is the last time an Auburn team went 3-8? That was pathetic and Bowden's recruiting had a lot to do with it.
Eddie, we were bad, but not nearly as bad as the record indicated. Look at the results. Look at how many close games we lost.
Yes, I have said Tuberville made mistakes and it is probably good he left. The environment at Auburn and the fair weather fans made it so. He took a chance in going to a more open offense. He made mistakes in not allowing Franklin to live or die by Franklin's decisions. He meddled and paid for it.
Man, I can't believe we are having this same silly conversation over again. Please read the old blogs and get caught up.
No Steve, you just compared what Mike Leach did at Texas Tech to being the same thing Tubs did at Auburn in the context that Auburn was nothing before Tubs got there, because Texas Tech was a bottom feeder before Leach. I think you need to re-read your comments. If i'm so wrong, why is everybody on you about this? Good grief. Implying that Tubs is the greatest coach at Auburn is insane.
Look I liked Tubs, I wasn't necessarily happy when he was fired. I now believe we are better off with Chizik than we would be so it worked out. But in anyway comparing Auburn pre tubs and Texas Tech pre pirate boy is insane.
Auburn was a decent program who had recent success, Texas Tech was a bad program with no history of success.
Funny to hear Auburn fans talking about how history matters. I was talking about when Tuberville arrived. I was not talking about previous seasons. I was talking about the condition of the Auburn football team was in when Tuberville got to Auburn. I am sorry that I must spell it out for you.
Eddie, you have already admitted yourself a liar, so your opinion no longer matters. And if your tiny brain isn't able to look at my text and determine if I can spell you are not as intelligent as I gave you credit for being.
Dwayne Reed show really stinks. He takes AU out of any offense they could have. Waller gets one 3 point attempt in the 2nd half. Not sure if F.Sullivan got many shots in the 2nd half. Reed scored but took WAY too many shots. Lebo should bench him.
Steve- Comparing Texas Tech Pre Leach to Auburn Pre-Tubs historically is the most ridiculous statement I've ever heard you made, and trust me, that is a long list to be atop of.
Okay, to spell it out again, I was comparing the Auburn team in the condition is was when Tuberville arrived to the condition of Texas Tech's team when Leach arrived. It was very similar. Try reading it again Eddie.
No Steve, you responded to the comment I made about Leach being the best coach Texas Tech ever had. You go read again. Put your huge waste of space brain to use. I just make do with the tiny one i've got.
SFC, "nothing" would be inheriting a program that hadn't had a 10-win season in 25 years, had only won more than 7 games in a season once in the previous decade, and was on NCAA probation (including scholarship sanctions and multiple forfeits of the few games they had won on the field).
That's what Leach inherited at Texas Tech. You want to compare that to AU when Tuberville took over?
Surprise...s
ReplyDeleteInteresting if true.
ReplyDeleteSurprising they offered him or not? I guess I find it interesting to go from an offensive program to a defensive minded coach.
ReplyDeleteHmmm, wonder where he stood with the USF job.
ReplyDeleteGood for .him
ReplyDeletefascinating news, Mr Tate.
ReplyDeletehow in the world did I misplace a period like that? I hate this stupid laptop sometimes.
ReplyDeleteThis makes sense. It isn't the perfect place for him, but it will be interesting. Taking over one of the top programs in the nation that is troubled by a very politically incorrect coach makes sense. The real question is if Tuberville will allow the wide open offense to continue.
ReplyDeletedoes this free up money at auburn
ReplyDeleteI don't believe so, BigDaddy. I am under the impression Auburn wrote Tuberville a check and that was the end of it.
ReplyDeleteI do wonder if the USF opening basically called Tech's hand. USF has become and attractive spot.
ReplyDeleteThere is some serious ironic irony going on here.
ReplyDeletethats what I was thinking but had some hope that would free up some money
ReplyDeleteThe next thread I hope to see is Lebo out as Au's basketball coach. I wish him well, but in his 6th year there is no reason for Auburn to be this bad.
ReplyDeleteAgreed, CH=B. Lebo has been given a very fair chance. They may give him one more season so he gets his time in the new arena, but I am doubting it.
ReplyDeleteCJ Mosley has chosen the evil empire.
ReplyDeleteI think TT-TT is a match made in hell.
ReplyDeleteNo friggin way.
SFC.
ReplyDeleteAuburn never showed any interest in Leach.
Aeronaut, what is your point?
ReplyDeleteCorrection ...
ReplyDelete"Ivan Maisel, noted UAT homer disguised as a Stanford alum ..."
Glad he found a new gig, but I can't see TT@TT for very long. Maybe he'll get to College Station eventually.
ReplyDeleteI doubt you will see TT jumping around much. It just seems to me that he wants somewhere to settle down. I certainly could be wrong, but I think he just enjoys coaching.
ReplyDeletehttp://collegefootball.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1037628
ReplyDeleteAU not in top 25 for next year
That charles hollis (the guy whose article you just linked to) is a pathetic lying bammer. There was no unofficial contact.
ReplyDeleteAuburn had zero interest in him, and there was no unofficial anything whatsoever...from Tubs leaving to Chizik hiring.
I was wondering what was your point when you brought up the irony part.
Interesting, but things will change once the season draws closer. A lot will depend upon what happens between now and then, but I am guessing we will be in the top 25 or close to it.
ReplyDeleteWe don't have a lot of question marks on this team, but what happens at QB will influence a lot.
Whether Etheridge returns and how many of the recruits actually make it to fall camp could also influence things.
Besides, preseason polls are pretty much meaningless.
Go Tubs. Good for him!
ReplyDeleteWow, they have TCU at number 6. That is pretty surprising. I don't see how you rank a team which is going through a head coaching change so high. Who knows what that team will look like next season.
ReplyDeleteThanks for the link. It is very interesting.
I hope it is true about Tubs going to TTU I wish him well and think he will do a good job. Smart people learn from their mistakes and I think Tubs is very smart.
ReplyDeleteIt's where we end that interest me!
ReplyDeleteAm I missing something about Patterson? I haven't heard about him going anywhere?
ReplyDeleteI just hope he finds a solid OC and gets to establish his defense. Tech could be very good if they can build on the talent that is there and start playing some D.
ReplyDeleteSo... when do we get some good news about the basketball team? Has Lebo cleaned out his office yet?
ReplyDeletestevefc,
ReplyDeleteTCU is not going through a coaching change... Patterson just signed an extension mid-season...
Thanks, D. Miller. My mistake.
ReplyDeleteYou will believe this, but we lost to South Carolina in basketball.
ReplyDeleteSo Texas Tech boards thinks their DC will be Willis.
ReplyDeleteLebo is very fortunant that I am not in Jacobs shoes. This SC game, at home, would have been a must win game for him to see Sunday morning as Auburn Basketball coach.
ReplyDeleteWho's going to coach the team if Lebo is fired? There is not interim lying around.
ReplyDelete"fortunate" I can't spell good
ReplyDeleteSteve.... basketball team losing was fully expected...
ReplyDeletekathy, I had heard that Willis was a condidate for DC at Louisville under Charlie strong... so him going to TT to be Tubs DC isn't that much of a stretch... it could happen. Watching who Tubs fills out his staff with out there will be interesting to see...
Sorry I couldn't b around earlier. I'm working both jobs today. At least the hospital here has wifi so can stay on the habotn. So do we hav an estimated fire date for Lebo yet?
ReplyDeleteGo to the nearest "Y" pick up a coach. He will do better than Lebo.
ReplyDeleteJ/K He will stay to the end of this year.
Get Damian(?) Fishback to be the interim coach. Couldn't really do any worse.
ReplyDeleteAuburn looking good for Whitaker, Seastrunk
ReplyDeletehttp://blog.al.com/press-register-sports/2010/01/auburn_looking_good_for_whitak.html
I don't think Seastrunk comes to Auburn.
I don't think Jacobs would try the 'interim coach can't do any worse' theory ever again in his life.
ReplyDeleteHis deal is for five years and in the range of $2 million a year, a source told ESPN.com's Chris Low.
ReplyDelete"It's great to be back in the game again," Tuberville told ESPN.com's Ivan Maisel when reached on his cell phone in Auburn, Ala.
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=4811310
Congrats to Tubs. He'll do fine there.
ReplyDeleteI think TT will work a lot harder at TT then he did his last few years at AU. He got complacent. I don't think he will be there.
ReplyDeleteguessing my thoughts on which job Tubs would end up with proved to be true...I just always thought he and TT seemed like a better fit than he and USF.
ReplyDeleteTuberville, 55, became a strong candidate when it was determined he would not insist on hiring his own staff, a source told ESPN.com's Maisel. Tuberville also will not cost Tech a contract buyout.
ReplyDeleteUSF and TT seem to be very similar programs. Teams with no success until the most recent regime (in USF's case thats the only regime) neither program has much class. Both are considered to be 2nd tier programs in a very talent rich state.
ReplyDeleteUgh. And I called him, too!
ReplyDeleteProbably right now xCTT is on phone with sexton discussing if tossing his name for the USF job would get him a contract extension and a raise.
ReplyDeleteOr is it too early?
Waker and that could change if Tuberville finds a good OC and lets him do his job which I think he will do.
ReplyDeleteMaybe he was talking to ESPN when you called. See what those four letters can do for you?
ReplyDelete...or maybe he was pissed at you for trying to rouse him from his beauty sleep at 11pm the other night and hit ignore.
I think if Tuberville controls the D and let someone else control the Offense he will be successful at TT, and would have been at USF if he had done the same.
ReplyDeleteTuberville, who didn't insist on his hiring his own staff, achieved a negotiating coup when he gained a contract clause that guarantees him three weeks off in December for duck hunting.
ReplyDeleteJGT - re: 3:15 post...
ReplyDeleteLebo Sr would be the obvious choice ;-)
THT-Lebo Sr. would not stay if his son was canned. I'm pushing the Fishback as interim thing.
ReplyDeleteI'm on the Lebo Sr., interim Express.
ReplyDeleteTuberville, 55, became a strong candidate when it was determined he would not insist on hiring his own staff, a source told ESPN.com's Maisel. Tuberville also will not cost Tech a contract buyout.
ReplyDeleteTake that, Jay Jacobs.
Lebo Sr named interim coach. Leads AU to a .500 SEC record, gets named AU coach, hires his son as an ass't.
ReplyDeleteNo, I don't think so, either.
I'm for a change ... but announce it late Feb., then crank up the search ... Jay G's right. There's no interim nearby. Fishback has never coached, has he?
ReplyDeleteFreep ...
ReplyDeleteWhat that tells me is that he was desperate to coach to hand over the staff. As for Jay Jacobs, he has about as much to do with Tubs' buyout as you did.
I'm happy he's employed, but I'm not optimistic about his success at Tech. Then again, my lack of Tubs love is known in these parts.
I thought we weren't going to discuss former AU coaches anymore ;-)
ReplyDeleteno fishback has never coached, but what a great chance for him. The team isn't going to do anything this year. So what could it possibly hurt?
ReplyDeletewell, I suppose we have to allow a temporary lifting of that gag order or there will be no more thread.
ReplyDeleteD.Miller is right about Willis and Louisville.
ReplyDeleteThe word on the UA boards was that Louisville was interested in him.
Willis to TT make sense.
We have a new arena and 6 pretty good recruits for next year. I think this is a pretty attractive job for next year.
ReplyDelete"Probably right now xCTT is on phone with sexton discussing if tossing his name for the USF job would get him a contract extension and a raise. "
ReplyDeleteI bet the thought has crossed both of their minds.
Jet, I seem to recall that Tubs' last renegotiation after the '07 season caused some serious disagreement on the whole 'buyout' thing - as in, Tubs wanted AU on the hook but himself off of it. That may just be unfounded rumor, but it sounds plausible.
ReplyDeleteThe whole 'I won't make any staff demands' promise definitely feels a slap in AU's face.
And I agree, I'm happy for him if it's what he wants. He deserves a tremendous amount of credit for that fantastic 2004 season, no matter what happened before or after that.
ReplyDeleteBut I have my doubts whether he'll ever achieve even the level of success that Leach did at TTU.
Great....Home alone with the 2yr old till the am and I think I just broke my foot. Running around playing and stepped on a big blue ball and heard a pop.
ReplyDeleteget ice on it and elevate. You got any family nearby?
ReplyDeleteUh oh CH=B. No one you can call to take you to a doc-in-the-box?
ReplyDeleteCH=B,
ReplyDeleteDo what THT said and add taking an anti-inflammatory. It will hurt less if you can keep the swelling down.
Just got back from Auburn (it was wonderful!!) At the Auburn Wal-Mart I only saw 2 bammies. But, we stopped at the Wal-Mart in Sylacauga for some Ben & Jerry's and that place was covered up! I never saw so many bammies in one place in my life!
ReplyDeleteI can walk and move my toes it's just really sore. Wish I could elevate it but one key part of my post was "Home alone with TWO YEAR OLD". She is a hand full and doesn't sit for more than 30-40 seconds at a time. Going to throw on some Baby Einstein and see if I can get a few minute break.
ReplyDeleteI propose from this post forward all bammers shall be referred to as Walmartians.
ReplyDeleteCincy they are all practicing to go to Wally World Gardendale tomorrow!!
ReplyDeletechecking their wardrobes and such
Why do you have to have an interim coach on staff?
ReplyDeleteRun a promotion to increase attendance... 10 minutes prior to every game, a random fan could be chosen as the coach for that night's game.... What would be the difference?
JG - After listening to Joe Ciampi on the radio. I would fire Lebo and insert Coach Ciampi
ReplyDeleteGreat idea D.
ReplyDeleteRub some dirt on it and walk it off boy.
ReplyDeleteAnd we do have a perfectly good interim coach available. Her name is Nell.
ReplyDeleteVery good j-z!
ReplyDeleteI tried to go to Dick's Sporting Goods and Academy today searching for a particular item that wifey wanted....
ReplyDeleteHoly crap that was a mistake. I am certain both establishments had exceeded the fire code with people buying champeenship gear and houndstooth undies (yes, disturbing)... but, I only saw about 6 teeth in the whole bunch...
Needless to say, I didn't get what I went for, and it took me 2 hours to get out... for a while today, that was my own personal little hell....
This should make it feel better...
ReplyDeleterats.
ReplyDeleteSince the boys seem to play like girls I think a girls coach would do just fine. Might also teach them some DDDDDDDDDDDDDefense
ReplyDeleteI sprayed some windex on it. I think I am fine. Walmartians anyone? There goes the timer, just fixed the future AU womens golfer some cheesburger mac. Anyone want some?
ReplyDeleteFYI- Seastrunk and Whittaker both seen wearing AU hats at the AA game.
ReplyDeleteLove the Windex treatment! I haven't fixed cheeseburger mac in forever. We are having a California Pizza Kitchen white cheese and spinach pizza with Ben & Jerry's ice cream for dessert.
ReplyDeleteGolfing is the way to go. Big scholarships for girls.
And CH=B, love WalMartians!
ReplyDeleteCH=B looking for a picture of those guys sporting the AU hat.
ReplyDeleteWalmartians is good.
http://www.auburntron.com/2010/01/09/leaked-photos-from-army-aa-game/
ReplyDeleteCheck that I was better until the FAUWG ran into my foot with her plastic shopping cart. Cincy are you gloating about the B&J's?
ReplyDeletescooped by Miller. So it's official from now on bammers are to be called walmartians. I'm sure that will last just like the no talking about ex-coach thing. Even G broke the rules. We need someone to step up and keep track of the violations.
ReplyDeleteDinner time. see you guys later.
ReplyDeleteLuper hasn't called him in 3 weeks.
ReplyDeleteAnd what's up with this? "*NOTE** latt left the field pissed about something, didn’t stick around for interviews or pics. "
Is it possible that we get Lattimore AND Seastrunk??? What would Gus do with THAT backfield??
ReplyDeletewin a MNC!!!
ReplyDeleteRe: Lebo- Why are we worried about coaching experience for our interim coach? Our current one appears not to have coached basketball for several years.
ReplyDeleteRe: recruits at all-star games wearing AU hats- From reading the notes that went along with the photos, it looks like they were enjoying attention from AU fans more than they were expressing undying devotion to the Auburn Creed and all it stands for. High school seniors can be attention whores, is all I'm sayin'. I wouldn't read too much into it.
Lache's family was wearing the purple, so I don't think he's coming to AU, and I'm not sure AU is pursing him any longer.
ReplyDelete2ndaid- I agree but it can't be a bad thing either.
ReplyDeleteLatt and Whitaker are in the bag.
ReplyDeleteSeastrunk is not in AU's plans.
ReplyDeleteAdd Mack to that bag also
ReplyDeleteCH=B,
ReplyDeleteI hope we do get Mack. Not sure why I want his so badly, but I do.
If Lebo even had a reasonable showing the last few years it would be a diff. story...
ReplyDeleteBUT
We are just bad....
Lebo had some incredibly bad luck his first few years and I was willing to give him a pass.
ReplyDeleteI don't follow BBall very closely, but even I can see how poorly coached we are. That's really not excusable after 5 full years and 1/3 way into the 6th.
cincy if you have room in your bag add lemonier to that. I think we finishe with Latt, Mack, Whitaker, Lemonier, Beasley and B. Jones. Top 5 class that will win a MNC before they leave Auburn.
ReplyDeleteno e on finsh but you know what I mean.
ReplyDeleteJust so you know ... I love Joe Ciampi and I wish he was still coaching so my daughter could play for him.
ReplyDeleteIf he was coaching at Alaska-Fairbanks, I'd send her out there to play for him.
Hoopie, I loved Lebo when he came. He let some problem children go and cleaned house. He then dealt with depth and injuries without complaining. Then last year I thought we had finally turned a corner. Then he signs a very respectable class in the early period this year. With all that said the product that is on the court right now is horrible and for that I don't think he can last another year. Mike Anderson come on down.
ReplyDeleteG-how old is your daughter?
ReplyDeleteCH=B,
ReplyDeleteI have a very big bag :)
Tubs is regarded as a very good coach most everywhere ...except in certain Auburn circles. Lowder and his cronies spread rumors, inuendo and exaggerations for years. Some AU folks eventually fell for it and started believing anything they heard. CEO's understand how to use disinformation. Arthur Blank BS'd the Atlanta folks regarding Petrino in the same way.
ReplyDeleteTubs is more suited to a aTm type situation, than in Lubbock. We'll see how this goes. If it doesn't go well, he will probably fade into the sunset.
Hoopie,that's 5 HABOTN $$$$.
ReplyDeleteacutally 10 HABOTN $..you said it twice.
ReplyDeleteLook at all these rumors ... surroundin' me every day ... I just need some time ... some time to get away ... from all these rumors
ReplyDeleteI'm just constantly amazed that a guy who learned under Dean Smith always has a team that just jacks up random shots and can't hit free throws.
ReplyDeleteWe are generally lousy in fundamentals under Lebo.
In Chattanooga the Mocs just shot 3 after 3 under Lebo as well.
Hoopie, I'd be more inclined to believe that the 'rumors, inuendo and exaggerations' were just that, if it weren't for the fact that the same thing happened to Tubs while he was at Ole Miss.
ReplyDeleteHad a close relative tell me that Tubs was getting the AU job before Bowden had even quit. How did he know? He knew the pilot who flew him to Montgomery to meet with Lowder to talk about it.
As Tubs himself said, "It's a business."
I just read where Arkansas' offensive line coach Mike Summers will be taking a similar position at Kentucky. When is the last time Kentucky swiped a coach from Arkansas?
ReplyDeleteIt is interesting that Tuberville had a better record at Auburn than Leach had at Tech over a similar time frame and scenario. I didn't realize that.
ReplyDeleteSteve- Texas Tech was basically nothing before Leach got there, so the fact that Tubs record was better at Auburn is not surprising at all. Make no doubts about it, Leach was the best coach that Texas Tech ever had. He built the program to where it is. Can Tubs take it any further? We will see. It will be quite an accomplishment if he can win a championship there...I don't think he will.
ReplyDeleteI'd say it's harder to win a conference championship at Texas Tech than it is at Auburn.
ReplyDeleteHowever, Tubs could bring some D to that team and that would make a huge difference as they are used to winning shootouts.
I imagine Arky is a tough place to be a o line coach, they do things differently then virtually every other program out there. Plus you have to deal with slime ball Petrino.
ReplyDeleteWhat Leach did at TTU would be comparable to Dan Mullen winning 85 games in his first 10 years at MSU.
ReplyDeleteNot impossible, but not terribly likely either.
I just wonder who will be hired as TTU's offensive coordinator. That will make or break Tubs there.
ReplyDeleteFreep ...
ReplyDeleteTubs had agreed to be Auburn's next coach -- in 1997. He was a good coach who had a couple of great seasons, had an incredible agent, and got very complacent.
It's not an uncommon story in football.
Eddie, we were nothing before Tubs got there.
ReplyDeleteAs for Texas Tech, I seriously find it hard to believe that even anyone with a passing knowledge of football would believe they play a tougher schedule than Auburn.
Rk- If Tubs was smart, he should try to keep most of the offensive staff intact and gut the defensive staff IMO. I would keep the OC who it was, even though I know Leach was calling the shots, I think the guy who has been with Leach for awhile can pretty much run a pretty good offense similar to what Leach was doing.
ReplyDeleteOne of the truly fun parts is people that are really uneducated enough to believe Tuberville was complacent. The firing of Borges and hiring of Franklin isn't something a complacent coach would do. It is laughable to say otherwise.
ReplyDeleteSteve- I'm going to pretend you just didn't say that...
ReplyDeleteNo offense, but as bad as we were STEVE, we were in the SEC Championship game just a year before Tubs was named HC. That is an idiotic statement for even you Steve.
Uhh, SFC. . .you wanna recant that 'we were nothing before Tubs got there' comment?
ReplyDeleteRidiculous comment Steve. Auburn went undefeated once already in the 90's before Tubs got there. Auburn is a higher level program now than we were when he got here, but Auburn was definitely on a higher level than Tech.
ReplyDeleteI really don't know enough about the Texas Tech coaching staff to guess at what changes should be made. I do know that they will have a tough time if Tuberville goes back to his conservative offensive ways. College football has changed and I believe Tuberville was attempting to change with it. We will just have to see.
ReplyDeleteWakerider, we were pathetic when Tuberville got there. Bowden simply was not a recruiter. Without Craig, he would have failed much sooner.
ReplyDeleteSteve- I think you have taken a step back tonight in credibility. Comparing Auburn to Texas Tech...please.
ReplyDeleteYes, we were in the SECCG the year before, mainly because of Craig. But do you remember the 3-8 team? Hello!!! Was anyone around for that season. When is the last time an Auburn team went 3-8? That was pathetic and Bowden's recruiting had a lot to do with it.
ReplyDeleteSteve- We were pathetic Tubs last year too...how do you judge that?
ReplyDeleteEddie, I pointed out that Tuberville had a better record under similar circumstances. If you can't grasp it, I do understand.
ReplyDeleteInsert Tuberville with Bowden in your last statement and they both ring about the same.
ReplyDeleteLook, Leach made Tech what it is. Auburn was way great before Bowden or Tubs got there. Enough of this stupid argument.
It's great to be a moron!
ReplyDeleteLOL Jet!
ReplyDeleteFact: Tubs won exactly 68% of his games in 10 seasons at AU.
ReplyDeleteHere are AU's overall winning percentages prior to the Tuberville Era, over selected time periods.
10 years (1989-98): 67.7
25 years (1974-98): 67.1
50 years (1949-98): 64.8
Now the same for Texas Tech, where Leach won 66.4 of his games.
10 years (1989-98): 53.9
25 years (1974-98): 51.2
50 years (1949-98): 51.5
Which HC performed significantly higher than his respective school's historic average, Tubs or Leach?
I think the answer's pretty clear.
Eddie, we were bad, but not nearly as bad as the record indicated. Look at the results. Look at how many close games we lost.
ReplyDeleteYes, I have said Tuberville made mistakes and it is probably good he left. The environment at Auburn and the fair weather fans made it so. He took a chance in going to a more open offense. He made mistakes in not allowing Franklin to live or die by Franklin's decisions. He meddled and paid for it.
Man, I can't believe we are having this same silly conversation over again. Please read the old blogs and get caught up.
Geeze, can I find a way to blow a hole in that argument? Let me see? Look at the schedules each team play.
ReplyDeleteI wish I could read!
ReplyDeleteNo Steve, you just compared what Mike Leach did at Texas Tech to being the same thing Tubs did at Auburn in the context that Auburn was nothing before Tubs got there, because Texas Tech was a bottom feeder before Leach. I think you need to re-read your comments. If i'm so wrong, why is everybody on you about this? Good grief. Implying that Tubs is the greatest coach at Auburn is insane.
ReplyDeleteWell, let me see if I can point out a lie here?
ReplyDeletePlease reference where I said that Tuberville was the greatest coach at Auburn. If not, admit yourself a liar.
We're off to see the Wizard!
ReplyDeleteThe wonderful Wizard of Tubs!
Because! Because! Because! Because! Because!
Because the wonderful things that he does!
Ok Steve, i'm a liar:
ReplyDeleteEddie's Comment "Make no doubts about it, Leach was the best coach that Texas Tech ever had. He built the program to where it is."
Steve's reply: "Eddie, we were nothing before Tubs got there."
Yepp, I'm a big fat liar.
Quick ... someone dial 911 ... Eddie's pants are on fire!
ReplyDeleteLook I liked Tubs, I wasn't necessarily happy when he was fired. I now believe we are better off with Chizik than we would be so it worked out. But in anyway comparing Auburn pre tubs and Texas Tech pre pirate boy is insane.
ReplyDeleteAuburn was a decent program who had recent success, Texas Tech was a bad program with no history of success.
"Eddie, we were nothing before Tubs got there."
ReplyDeleteWow, just wow.
Jet- I remember something my Algebra teacher in High School told me..."Eddie, Go Argue with the Pole."...I guess i finally found that pole.
ReplyDeleteFunny to hear Auburn fans talking about how history matters. I was talking about when Tuberville arrived. I was not talking about previous seasons. I was talking about the condition of the Auburn football team was in when Tuberville got to Auburn. I am sorry that I must spell it out for you.
ReplyDeleteSteve...can you even spell?
ReplyDeleteSorry, SFC, I think you lost this argument when you said "we were nothing before Tubs got there."
ReplyDeleteEddie, you have already admitted yourself a liar, so your opinion no longer matters. And if your tiny brain isn't able to look at my text and determine if I can spell you are not as intelligent as I gave you credit for being.
ReplyDeleteSteve...sticks and stones
ReplyDeleteStep up folks for the HABOTN family feud ... where's Richard Dawson when you need him?
ReplyDeleteFreep, 3-8 is about the close thing to nothing that I have seen at Auburn. Anyone know when the last time our record was worse than that?
ReplyDeleteWhere is the hidden camera...I've been punk'd.
ReplyDeleteJay-I did nto go back to read the other posts. What is up with the press row you were at today. Much better seating, I thought, for you.
ReplyDeleteWTC- what do you think it will take for Auburn basketball to be competitive?
ReplyDeleteWow, it's a HABOTN war that I can't catch the blame for making the initial comment.
ReplyDeleteIt truly is a new year.
I am sad PF is missing this.
ReplyDeleteIn 1950 we were 0-10. That would qualify.
ReplyDeleteDwayne Reed show really stinks. He takes AU out of any offense they could have. Waller gets one 3 point attempt in the 2nd half. Not sure if F.Sullivan got many shots in the 2nd half. Reed scored but took WAY too many shots. Lebo should bench him.
ReplyDeleteSteve, are you arguing with yourself now?
ReplyDeleteSteve- Comparing Texas Tech Pre Leach to Auburn Pre-Tubs historically is the most ridiculous statement I've ever heard you made, and trust me, that is a long list to be atop of.
ReplyDelete1952 would also qualify. We were 2-8 in Shug's second season.
ReplyDeleteI'm guessing this rules out any chance of a Home and Home series with TTU?
ReplyDeleteSteve, I think you are winning the argument with yourself. No wait.
ReplyDeleteHABOTN it rarely disappoints me.
ReplyDeleteOkay, to spell it out again, I was comparing the Auburn team in the condition is was when Tuberville arrived to the condition of Texas Tech's team when Leach arrived. It was very similar. Try reading it again Eddie.
ReplyDeleteNo Steve, you responded to the comment I made about Leach being the best coach Texas Tech ever had. You go read again. Put your huge waste of space brain to use. I just make do with the tiny one i've got.
ReplyDeleteOkay Steve, You DO win the argument with yourself. Game over. Let's move on to something else.
ReplyDeleteWhen Tuberville arrived at Auburn we were coming off the worst season we have had in my lifetime. To somehow think it was great seems ridiculous.
ReplyDeleteWar over.
ReplyDeleteEase back. Cowboys and Eagles are on.
Like a brick wall IV
ReplyDeleteSteve, Don't take it to overtime.
ReplyDeleteNext topic: Hottest SEC coach's wife.
ReplyDeleteNominations?
Eagles...Interception stand? I hope so. Go Eagles!
ReplyDeleteLayla..hands down.
ReplyDeleteWho can we blame for starting this?
ReplyDeleteSFC, "nothing" would be inheriting a program that hadn't had a 10-win season in 25 years, had only won more than 7 games in a season once in the previous decade, and was on NCAA probation (including scholarship sanctions and multiple forfeits of the few games they had won on the field).
ReplyDeleteThat's what Leach inherited at Texas Tech. You want to compare that to AU when Tuberville took over?
Do you mean before Tuberville came?
ReplyDeleteHmmm, haven't really checked out many coaches wives, but I do understand that Kiffikin's wife was willing to show off what she had more than most.
ReplyDeleteJet- Texas Tech for hiring Tubs.
ReplyDeleteUH-OH the Boss is here play nice :-)
ReplyDeleteOK boys, mommy says it's time to stop arguing. Let's find something fun to talk about - like who we are going to get in our recruiting stocking :)
ReplyDeleteSorry, JGT, didn't see that time had been called. I'll put away my facts.
ReplyDeleteCome on Norm.
ReplyDeleteFLIP IT
ReplyDeleteNOW
ReplyDeleteNew Page...New Day.
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