"Auburn has not contacted me or my agent and we have not contacted them," Fisher told ESPN.com. "I'm very happy at Florida State. I'm very content at Florida State and I'm happy to be here."
can't say i'm surprised by the ala./fla score. i thought fla was the team to beat since they manhandled hawaii. ala did pretty well though, i gotta say
Here is my opinion- Auburn had better not given Gill a token interview. Do you remember what happened to Bama when they did the same with Croom?
I really don't think Auburn would have made it to this point with Gill unless it was very serious about it's intentions.
I also would be willing to bet that Rodney Gardner and Stacy Searls will be back at Auburn. It would definitely had bee the case if Jimbo was the coach.
Barkley- It would help recruiting in my opinion. He would not be the first African-American in the SEC, but he would be the first African-American at a major school in the SEC. He is younger than Croom was and he is a players Coach. FSJ- Croom was old school and not quite as personable as Turner Gill is. I really believe Gill could make a major impact at Auburn.
I agree peter, Gill is a good plan B, i hope that's what he is. I really am starting to think that they are going to can jacobs and make a run at muschamp.
Tarheel- The computers will favcr Florida with the win over the #1 computer team in the nation. They will jump to at least #2 if not #1. They will also more than likely be #1 in both human polls.
Muschamp would bring Auburn back to Auburn, too. That's why he's in my top 2 list.
Muschamp has plenty of AU blood. Masters at Auburn. Grad assistant at Auburn. Ties to Garner, Searles, Craig, etc., etc.
I believe Turner would be good fore recruiting because he's a tireless worker. He didn't go duck hunting today after winning the biggest game in the history of Buffalo football. He went recruiting.
I recent read a journal that said that AU's freshman enrollment of african-americans was down 50% while UA's was up 37%. If AU is having a perception problem, Gill would certainly help it.
I will pose this question to the informed posters of HABOTN, did race mean anything with the Presidential Election? I think that can answer your question about Gill's recruiting advanatage.
Fisher's statement can be easily translated to, "I really don't want to have to pay FSU $2.5 million for even considering to look at the head coaching vacancy at Auburn University."
I agree with you 100% Ron, that's why I believe Gill is the man. Of all the coaches that have been linked prominently with the AU Search, Gill by far has better credentials than Muschamp or Fisher. I still don't believe Nutt was ever seriously cnsidered.
FSJ- Keep going down the list, Ty Willingham would be next. I've stated from the beginning that's its not race, but what Gill has done at Buffalo that makes him attractive.
I don't think Gill being black would help with recruiting. Black kids I think are like everyone else: they want to win championships and play on Sunday. They will play for who they think gives them the best chance to do that. They won't do something charitable if they don't think he will be the best coach for him just because he is black.
I think it may matter for a recruit or two, but for the vast majority they are concerned with how to get them to the NFL or something like that irrespective of race.
I think it's an interesting topic. However, I think it is one where the effects are vastly overrated.
Go Gators! I feel celebrating a la the 72 Miami Dolphins after the final NFL team loses their first game.....with a drink! Probably nothing to it, but a friend of mine in Auburn just called and said the house Muschamp has been trying to sell since leaving Auburn was taken off the market today...probably nothing to it, but you never know....
I'm sorry I responded to that question, I'm getting painted into a corner that is not my view point.
The question was whether race could help recruiting, and I believe that if he is a good coach, then yes it can help, just like O'bama was a good candidate, it did help. I never intended to hint that Auburn hire Gill because he was African American. We would be Mississippi State if we had done that. That is the only reason MSU hired Croom in my hoest opinion.
By the way, Gill was very close to getting the Nebraska job last year.
I may try and get my friend Stan, the guy from Columbus to join. He was so disappointed this year that he wouldn't go to the last 3-4 home games even though he had season tickets.
I think that Auburn must really have some interest in Gill. In other words I an not positive that this is a "token" interview. I say this because if Auburn was looking to simply have a "token" interview, they would interview someone like Charlie Strong, or another assistant coach or coordinator. This way they could easliy hire a current HC as having more experience than the black interview or still be able to hire an assistant or head coach in waiting with out any problem. If Auburn interviews Gill and then hires an assistant like Fisher or Boomer they will be criticized very harshly by the Black Coaches Association. What do yall think?
Biscuit- That is exactly what I have been trying to say. Auburn would have way more to lose than gain by just interviewing him for the sake of interviewing.
I could be wrong, but I just believe this is a serious interview and some sort of agreement has been reached so that Auburn nor Gill end up with egg on their face.
Which I stated earlier that you were going to get everyone now coming out and pulling their name out. Just points directly to Gill. The only fly in the ointment so to speak, is a personal statement by Muschamp. If he makes it, then I would put an Eddie Percentage of 90% that Gill is the next coach.
I agree that Gill shouldn't be the top choice, but he is worth considering if we can't get the star candidate. I classify Gill as an up and comer, not a proven coach top not coach.
As for his skin color, I don't think many college football players are racist. They sweat together and they shower together. College football teams are one of the great ways kids find out that people are just people. If a recruit chose to come or not come to Auburn based upon the color of the head coach, I would just as soon he found a different school. He obviously isn't too bright.
Muschamp should probably be on the list somewhere, but not one of the top candidates. I would give Gill the edge on him in terms of head coaching experience, but since Muschamp has ties to Auburn, he might be given the edge.
My question is, where are the star candidates that we are pursuing? It sounds like we aren't interested in leach. It looks like Butch Davis and Steve Spurrier are the only major stars. Paul Johnson is close, but I wouldn't call him a star yet.
By the FSJ, very good game by Bama. They just ran into a Florida team that is very complete. Their defense is improved and they are more diverse on offense. It is amazing that Florida could look that good without Harvin.
I guess the best way to put it is Auburn didn't play a game this season in which the outcome would have made me feel better than playing Florida close. Our most impressive game was probably the loss to Georgia, and Florida stomped an ever lovin mudhole in Georgia.
Steve0 We are not going to get a "Saban" proven coach. It's not happening. This search is down to Muschamp and Gill with Fisher still hoping it falls to him. I really believe that is where we are. I could be reading way to much into the Gill interview, but they better line someone else up quick if it is between more than one coach.
our Molly dog is so very smart (much smarter than bammers) She stepped on Fn + Command + F5 at the same time to activate the computer voice. We didn't even know the computer would do that. Sorry for the off topic discussion here
Eddie, you could be right, and that may be why Jacobs wanted to keep Tuberville. It looks like we wont be able to replace him with a coach of his stature, so we will do the up and comer gamble, which could pay off. You never know.
FSJ and all other Paul Johnson lovers out there I truly believe that hiring a guy like him would take Auburn Football decades, and I do not mean that in a good way!
Georgia Tech first-year head coach Paul Johnson will sit down with Athletic Director Dan Radakovich to discuss his contract early next week, according to the Atlanta Journal-Constitution.
muschamp, i just don't think that gil has the name recognition au is looking for. i think he might be a good fit...obviously, others disagree. i think the ptb are looking for someone huge. jgt, teebow for heisman!
I wouldn't consider Paul Johnson just because he has only been at Georgia Tech a year. I wouldn't want a coach that would come in for just a year. Also, I think the effort would likely be a waste of time.
Eddie, I do love the story at Buffalo. It is incredible. I just think that Auburn is a completely different world. I can see why some would want Fisher or Muschamp due to ties to Auburn, and they might be better choices in terms of recruiting.
Spurrier would be a pleasant surprise, but he would only be a short term solution.
I have serious doubts that Davis will want to get involved. The SEC is a tough world and the situation in the west has changed significantly with Nutt reviving Ole Miss and Petrino at Arkansas. Coaching at Auburn will be a tough task for any coach after this season.
Mon, the type of offense that Johnson runs isn't the type of offense that high school players want to go play in. There is a very good reason why traditional wing-t option teams like Nebraska, Oklahoma, and others have switched to a more modern offense. Johnson might have the ability to win early with our backs and that offense would fit Kodi well, but it's down the road where we would suffer. Auburn needs to decide to play an offense that is either Borges West Coast or some variation of the Spread, Wing-T offenses died in 1957
Every time I read something about him it includes what a good recruiter he is. I also like that he's from Texas as I'm now obsessed with recruiting a QB from Texas.
"Gill, 45, who spent the 2005 season serving as Player Development Director and Offensive Assistant with the Green Bay Packers, was lauded as one of the nation’s top recruiters while an assistant coach at Nebraska from 1992-2004. The Cornhuskers won national titles in 1994, 1995 and 1997 during that span. " from UB site
Eddie you hit the proverbial nail on the head with the Gill comment. That is what interests me about him. Also knowing his background as a recruiting coordinator at Nebraska when they were landing players like Tommy Frazier, Eric Crouch, and Lawrence Phillips. However I would always have in the back of my mind him going home to Nebraska.
Exactly Monica. Gill is a great recruiter. There is a reason Buffalo has been bad. There is no talent in that state, especially that area. Go look at Buffalo's Roster, players from all the country and outside the country.
TX, CA, TN, MD, OH, PA, CT, IL, MI, AZ, IN, FL, MA, VA, Canada, Australia.
This guy goes out all over the country to find kids to come to Buffalo. What do you honestly think he will do at Auburn?
I think his race could influence a small percentage of players. I think there (sadly) are still some good ole boys who wouldn't like the idea of playing for a black coach. On the other Hand, there are still many black players who feel that a white coach (or any white person) isn't going to have their back. People who were brought up in areas that where minorities are the strong majority.
I don't think it would be enough players in either direction to influence who you hired. I think it needs to go to the best coach, and color isn't even a factor.
Chris-I believe it is safe to say that we will more than likely have all those assistants back at Auburn unless there is some hidden big candidate. I don't think there is.
sounds like we (me included) are already dictating that Gill can't bring his staff with him. Who needs Lowder interfering when we can handle it ourselves.
If Oklahoma loses the only programs that I feel like have an legitimate claim are USC and Penn St. both conference champions with 1 loss. I kind of get sick of Oklahoma always getting this "benefit of the doubt" in games when they always seem to get beat.
2003 Oklahoma coming off a loss in the Bix XII Championship Game gets the nod over Pac 10 Champions USC to play SEC Champion LSU in the Sugar Bowl (2003 National Championship game) and gets beat by LSU. #3 USC goes on to defeat #4 ranked Michigan in the rose bowl and be awarded the Football Writers and AP National Championship.
2004 Undefeated Okalhoma gets nod over also undefeated Auburn to play undefeated USC in Orange Bowl (2004 National Championship Game). USC goes on to blow Oklahoma out 55-19. Auburn defeats Virginia Tech 16-13 in Sugar bowl to remain undefeated and end teh season ranked #2 behind National Champion USC.
2008 Oklahoma jumps University of Texas in last week of season to be selected at the team to represent the Bix XII south in the championship game. Texas, Oklahoma, and Texas Tech all ended the season 11-1 but Oklahoma got the nod despite losing to Texas 45-35 earlier in the season, because of the Big XII 3 team tie breaker which places the top ranked BCS team in the Big XII Championship game.
I mean isn't it a little rediculious that one team always seems to get these type of breaks?
I think as one of only three African American men out of 117 Div 1 schools, Gill might be a little more familiar with all sorts of enormous pressure than most. I'm probably wrong.
Eddie true I want a coach who is successful, but I also really want a coach who is all set to make another 10+ year run. That stability in the program has really seemed to help us out with the exception being this year.
sounds like Gill, if offered the job, would be wise to interview Garner, Searls, etc before deciding if he wants the job. Really weird to be doing a new coach the favor of choosing his assistants for him. But I admit, I sure would like those AU guys back home.
Chris, I'd love to get away from the orange thing. Sure it shows up great in the stands, but I'm blue da ba dee da ba dee i have a blue house with blue windows... Eiffel 65
I wasn't very sure about Gill until I read up on him and got a chance to watch the game last night. I believe he would bring fresh blood to the plains. However, I am a little worried he's not experienced enough to deal with the things that happen at Auburn other than "X's and O's".
BUT...at this point...I am willing to take the gamble...to much UPside not to!!!
Eddie, do you have a problem with Auburn being such a good job that we don't have coaches resigning and then taking a job as a NFL position coach (shula), an alabama highschool (Dubose), a second rate Big XII school (Fran). I kind of like our coaches coming and spending the rest of their careers here.
Auburn needs to stick with the orange. It looks so good on TV. In my opinion this year when we tried the whole Blue thing we the stands looked horrible.
prattville beat hoover!
ReplyDeleteNot exactly a unequivical statement.
ReplyDeletewow. ummm, guess we shouln't be scratching him off the list.
ReplyDeletecan't say i'm surprised by the ala./fla score. i thought fla was the team to beat since they manhandled hawaii. ala did pretty well though, i gotta say
ReplyDeletePlease, let's scratch him off in here where it counts.
ReplyDeleteWow. UF figured out how to beat the zebras.
And a shout out to the Auburn "officials" for interview the Turner "The Answer" Gill.
gil would be fine by me, although i don't think he's gonna get the offer.
ReplyDeleteI hate Tebow. If this is a just world, we'll see Texas and Oklahoma in Miami.
ReplyDeleteWhy not, Scott? I'm not baiting you by the way. I just don't understand why Gill wouldn't be offered.
ReplyDeleteUF vs Oklahoma is where it's at, Pete.
ReplyDeleteWhy do people hate Teebow? I don't get it. The dude's solid as can be as a person and a player.
Is it that Michael Jordan thing? He was hated for being better than everybody.
Okay, now, how do we get Auburn interested in Del Rio, and Del Rio interested in Auburn?
ReplyDeleteI like Gill as a plan B or C, but not as a first choice.
I am totally for a Texas vs Oklahoma NC game! Florida getting screwed would bring us together as a conference!
ReplyDeleteSEC! SEC! SEC! SEC!
He's arrogant.
ReplyDeleteHow could you hate Tim Tebow?
ReplyDeleteHe's a good guy, a good football player, and he loses to Auburn.
Muschamp - It's pretty obvious why someone would say they "hate" someone they don't even know. ;-)
ReplyDeleteI wish Ohio State had been good enough to get to the NC to be beaten by Florida again. hee hee
ReplyDeleteHere is my opinion- Auburn had better not given Gill a token interview. Do you remember what happened to Bama when they did the same with Croom?
ReplyDeleteI really don't think Auburn would have made it to this point with Gill unless it was very serious about it's intentions.
I also would be willing to bet that Rodney Gardner and Stacy Searls will be back at Auburn. It would definitely had bee the case if Jimbo was the coach.
I wish the world was full of Tebows
ReplyDeleteWhat the world
ReplyDeleteNeeds now
Is Tebow
Sweet Tebow
He's the only thing
That there's just
Too little of
I would love to have Rodney, Stacy, and Dameyune back at Auburn. Don't know if DC would leave hometown of Mobile, though.
ReplyDeleteDo you guys think that the fact that Turner Gill is African-American will help in recruiting since we recruit mostly African-Americans?
ReplyDeleteI don't mean this to be a racist statement, just curious if you think it could boost recruiting. He seems like a player's coach.
sing to me Monica
ReplyDeleteWar Eagle!
barkley...
ReplyDeleteDidn't help Croom much
You ok, Faker?
ReplyDeleteYeah, but Croom is old and in Starkville.
ReplyDeleteI mean, would you want to play for Sylvester Croom?
Nick Saban is about to give someone a tounge lashing, I see it coming.
Thanks Jay for the updates.
ReplyDeleteI honestly don't think skin color matters that much to recruits. In that regard they apparently are more mature than lots of the fans
ReplyDeleteso tell me, is it possible BCS keeps UF below UT? I really don't think there should ever be a rematch of a reg. season game in the BCSCG
ReplyDeleteBarkley- It would help recruiting in my opinion. He would not be the first African-American in the SEC, but he would be the first African-American at a major school in the SEC. He is younger than Croom was and he is a players Coach. FSJ- Croom was old school and not quite as personable as Turner Gill is. I really believe Gill could make a major impact at Auburn.
ReplyDeleteBarkley..yes i think his ethnicity could be appealing to many recruits both, black and white.
ReplyDeleteand I certainly don't think a team that doesn't win its conference should be allowed in BCSNCG
ReplyDeleteI agree peter, Gill is a good plan B, i hope that's what he is. I really am starting to think that they are going to can jacobs and make a run at muschamp.
ReplyDeleteI'm not sure, Barkley. I think it might have more effect on parents of recruits, but what do I know.
ReplyDeleteNick Saban will eat Turner Gill's lunch. Please hire him.
ReplyDeleteTarheel- The computers will favcr Florida with the win over the #1 computer team in the nation. They will jump to at least #2 if not #1. They will also more than likely be #1 in both human polls.
ReplyDeleteMon.
ReplyDeleteI'm ok. We got beat by a better team with a super quarterback.
Great year.
Muschamp would bring Auburn back to Auburn, too. That's why he's in my top 2 list.
ReplyDeleteMuschamp has plenty of AU blood. Masters at Auburn. Grad assistant at Auburn. Ties to Garner, Searles, Craig, etc., etc.
I believe Turner would be good fore recruiting because he's a tireless worker. He didn't go duck hunting today after winning the biggest game in the history of Buffalo football. He went recruiting.
Agreed FSJ.
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ReplyDeleteFaker - It was a great year without a doubt and I regret to say your future looks nothing but sparkly bright.
ReplyDeleteI recent read a journal that said that AU's freshman enrollment of african-americans was down 50% while UA's was up 37%. If AU is having a perception problem, Gill would certainly help it.
ReplyDeleteabout gill
ReplyDeleteI will pose this question to the informed posters of HABOTN, did race mean anything with the Presidential Election? I think that can answer your question about Gill's recruiting advanatage.
ReplyDeleteOh well.
ReplyDeleteFisher's statement can be easily translated to, "I really don't want to have to pay FSU $2.5 million for even considering to look at the head coaching vacancy at Auburn University."
ReplyDeleteHurling insults?... Please point out where I hurled an insult.
ReplyDeleteTurner could compete with Saban without cash.
ReplyDeleterace means nothing to me, i want the best coach possible. Turner Gill is 4th or 5th on my list.
ReplyDeleteWaiting Mr. Sensible....
ReplyDeleteRace didn't help John Blake at Oklahoma either Eddie.
ReplyDeleteEasy sensible, FSJ is cool. They lost cut him some slack... and i'm wearing jorts
ReplyDeleteIf Turner is that low on a list somebody needs to read a bio.
ReplyDeleteRon:
ReplyDeleteExactly. Auburn should go after the best coach available regardless of race.
I agree with you 100% Ron, that's why I believe Gill is the man. Of all the coaches that have been linked prominently with the AU Search, Gill by far has better credentials than Muschamp or Fisher. I still don't believe Nutt was ever seriously cnsidered.
ReplyDeleteThanks for the responses.
ReplyDeleteRon:
ReplyDeleteNo need for him to cut me some slack. I didn't hurl an insult as he stated.
Thanks though.
I don't mind gill but going after him is setting our sights a little low. If everything falls through i would be happy to have him.
ReplyDeleteI consider his age to be both his best factor and his worst factor. Race is meaningless in the quest for a new HC.
ReplyDeleteBefore Gill I would like to have Spurrier, Kelly, Davis, or maybe Muschamp.
ReplyDeleteIt looks like most of those have or will turn us down, so maybe Gill will be our best option.
FSJ,
ReplyDeleteLay off is what i meant... i'm drunk.
FSJ- Keep going down the list, Ty Willingham would be next. I've stated from the beginning that's its not race, but what Gill has done at Buffalo that makes him attractive.
ReplyDeleteJay,
ReplyDeleteIs there any chance at ALL that we would be going after Petersen at BSU?
I would rather, much rather in fact, have Gill over Muschamp.
ReplyDeleteI don't think Gill being black would help with recruiting. Black kids I think are like everyone else: they want to win championships and play on Sunday. They will play for who they think gives them the best chance to do that. They won't do something charitable if they don't think he will be the best coach for him just because he is black.
ReplyDeleteJust my opinion.
barkley,
ReplyDeletei'm with you minus brian kelly
Eddie:
ReplyDeleteI think it may matter for a recruit or two, but for the vast majority they are concerned with how to get them to the NFL or something like that irrespective of race.
I think it's an interesting topic. However, I think it is one where the effects are vastly overrated.
I know Ron..
ReplyDeleteThanks again.
I'll be here win or lose and will be the same poster win or lose.
"Nick Saban will eat Turner Gill's lunch. Please hire him."
ReplyDeleteOk, it wasn't an insult. Just a shot.
My bad. I took down the other.
Great year anyway, FSJ. That team way overachieved.
I still wonder why we aren't hearing anything about Butch Davis. That is too quiet, IMO.
ReplyDeleteI think it would be great to be able to ask someone who had actually ever been recruited or is being recruited to play SEC football.
ReplyDeleteGo Gators! I feel celebrating a la the 72 Miami Dolphins after the final NFL team loses their first game.....with a drink! Probably nothing to it, but a friend of mine in Auburn just called and said the house Muschamp has been trying to sell since leaving Auburn was taken off the market today...probably nothing to it, but you never know....
ReplyDeleteI'm sorry I responded to that question, I'm getting painted into a corner that is not my view point.
ReplyDeleteThe question was whether race could help recruiting, and I believe that if he is a good coach, then yes it can help, just like O'bama was a good candidate, it did help. I never intended to hint that Auburn hire Gill because he was African American. We would be Mississippi State if we had done that. That is the only reason MSU hired Croom in my hoest opinion.
By the way, Gill was very close to getting the Nebraska job last year.
And nobody needs to be asking for Faker to be cut some slack. Come on. He can dish it out and he can take it.
ReplyDeleteIt's weird going into a locker room and not knowing a single player.
ReplyDelete"Hi. Who are you?"
Agreed Eddie...
ReplyDeleteIMO, I make Butch Davis tell me no and then move down to the Brian Kelly/Turner Gill types....
and then to the Jimbo Fisher/Muschamp types.
I still think alot of these names area smokescreen, but what do I know.
Monica- I have a couple of good friends who played at Auburn while I was there. One was a parade all-american from columbus. It mattered. Trust me.
ReplyDeleteFlorida's a heckuva team Jay.
ReplyDeleteJay- Glad you could deiver your losing trend to Alabama today :).
ReplyDeleteOh the irony.
congrats on the season FSJ and thanks for being such a classy fan. Outside my old man I don't know many of those that pull for Bama.
ReplyDeleteWVU and USF playing in flurries
ReplyDeleteOutside of Tim Tebow, the difference in the game, IMO is that we scored field goals, while UF scored touchdowns.
ReplyDeleteEddie - You should recruit them as hotties. That would be an interesting perspective to have here.
ReplyDeleteMonica, you getting any white stuff? If so, send it on to Morgantown. Nothing like a great snow bowl, even on fake grass
ReplyDeleteThanks Kris.
ReplyDeletelist...
ReplyDelete1 davis
2 spurrier
3 muschamp
4 patterson
5 gill
etc...
Now GT is comming out saying its going to do everything it can to keep Paul Johnson.
ReplyDeleteAuburn is making some coaches some money these days.
It's been snowing off and on here all day. A very pretty snow fall as a matter of fact. I'm calling a courier right now.
ReplyDeleteforgot johnson put him 4th
ReplyDeleteI may try and get my friend Stan, the guy from Columbus to join. He was so disappointed this year that he wouldn't go to the last 3-4 home games even though he had season tickets.
ReplyDeleteI think that Auburn must really have some interest in Gill. In other words I an not positive that this is a "token" interview. I say this because if Auburn was looking to simply have a "token" interview, they would interview someone like Charlie Strong, or another assistant coach or coordinator. This way they could easliy hire a current HC as having more experience than the black interview or still be able to hire an assistant or head coach in waiting with out any problem. If Auburn interviews Gill and then hires an assistant like Fisher or Boomer they will be criticized very harshly by the Black Coaches Association. What do yall think?
ReplyDeleteFSJ,
ReplyDeleteYa'll will contend for the BCS again in 2 to 3 years, your program is heading in the right dircetion.... I'm jealous
rats, no snow or rain in K.C.
ReplyDeleteStan should come be comforted by the hotties. Be sure to tell him about our groovy hottie apparel. That's a HUGE recruiting tool.
ReplyDeleteReport on AL is saying that Davis has not been contacted by AU and he plans on staying at Tech for a while
ReplyDeleteWe got enough to cover the cars with a dusting. Morgantown I believe is supposed to get something later.
ReplyDeleteBiscuit- That is exactly what I have been trying to say. Auburn would have way more to lose than gain by just interviewing him for the sake of interviewing.
ReplyDeleteI could be wrong, but I just believe this is a serious interview and some sort of agreement has been reached so that Auburn nor Gill end up with egg on their face.
Ron:
ReplyDeleteThanks...Things are definately looking up..
Anybody that expected Alabama to be 12-1 this year should have their head examined.
i dont care what the BCA thinks. Who AU hires is none of their business. I hope it is Gill.
ReplyDeleteRon not sure what I think about that list. Davis wouldn't be that high for me. And I would absolutely NOT have Patterson or Johnson on my wish list.
ReplyDeleteCorrection no mention of contact either way for Davis.
ReplyDeleteBigcat, I think you meant Johnson.
ReplyDeleteWhich I stated earlier that you were going to get everyone now coming out and pulling their name out. Just points directly to Gill. The only fly in the ointment so to speak, is a personal statement by Muschamp. If he makes it, then I would put an Eddie Percentage of 90% that Gill is the next coach.
Davis at Tech is who?
ReplyDeletehit me with your list biscuit...
ReplyDeleteBiscuit.
ReplyDeleteJohnson would be on my list. He is a GREAT coach.
FSJ- You guys had an awesome season, and should be feeling great about it and the future. Anybody that gives you crap is jealous.
ReplyDeleteThanks Eddie.
ReplyDeleteGreat news!!!!!!!!!
ReplyDeleteDue to my loyalty to DirecTV, they are giving me three free months of Cinemax...
That'll take the edge off of a tough loss!
YES!
I agree that Gill shouldn't be the top choice, but he is worth considering if we can't get the star candidate. I classify Gill as an up and comer, not a proven coach top not coach.
ReplyDeleteAs for his skin color, I don't think many college football players are racist. They sweat together and they shower together. College football teams are one of the great ways kids find out that people are just people. If a recruit chose to come or not come to Auburn based upon the color of the head coach, I would just as soon he found a different school. He obviously isn't too bright.
Muschamp should probably be on the list somewhere, but not one of the top candidates. I would give Gill the edge on him in terms of head coaching experience, but since Muschamp has ties to Auburn, he might be given the edge.
My question is, where are the star candidates that we are pursuing? It sounds like we aren't interested in leach. It looks like Butch Davis and Steve Spurrier are the only major stars. Paul Johnson is close, but I wouldn't call him a star yet.
absolutely zero mention of Davis/Auburn in the local media/blogs
ReplyDeletecomputer help requested from Hotties,
ReplyDeletethe dog just walked on my wife's new macbook. It (the macbook) now talks to my wife. How do we stop this?
And that is strange to me TarHeel
ReplyDeleteThe macbook talks to you? Not sure I understand?
ReplyDeleteBy the FSJ, very good game by Bama. They just ran into a Florida team that is very complete. Their defense is improved and they are more diverse on offense. It is amazing that Florida could look that good without Harvin.
ReplyDeleteI guess the best way to put it is Auburn didn't play a game this season in which the outcome would have made me feel better than playing Florida close. Our most impressive game was probably the loss to Georgia, and Florida stomped an ever lovin mudhole in Georgia.
No doubt SFC...
ReplyDeleteFlorida is a machine...
it's like it now assumes she is visually impaired, so it tells her whatever the cursor is on
ReplyDeleteSteve0 We are not going to get a "Saban" proven coach. It's not happening. This search is down to Muschamp and Gill with Fisher still hoping it falls to him. I really believe that is where we are. I could be reading way to much into the Gill interview, but they better line someone else up quick if it is between more than one coach.
ReplyDeleteJD the Biscuit's christmas coaching list:
ReplyDelete1) Spurrier
2) Boomer
I haven't decided on the rest.
Im down biscuit, but you got have more fall backs than that
ReplyDeleteour Molly dog is so very smart (much smarter than bammers) She stepped on Fn + Command + F5 at the same time to activate the computer voice. We didn't even know the computer would do that. Sorry for the off topic discussion here
ReplyDeleteEddie, you could be right, and that may be why Jacobs wanted to keep Tuberville. It looks like we wont be able to replace him with a coach of his stature, so we will do the up and comer gamble, which could pay off. You never know.
ReplyDeleteFSJ and all other Paul Johnson lovers out there I truly believe that hiring a guy like him would take Auburn Football decades, and I do not mean that in a good way!
ReplyDeleteJD, I bet we could hire him in a week. I doubt it would take decades.
ReplyDeleteGeorgia Tech first-year head coach Paul Johnson will sit down with Athletic Director Dan Radakovich to discuss his contract early next week, according to the Atlanta Journal-Constitution.
ReplyDelete3rd coach to get a raise.
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ReplyDeletemuschamp, i just don't think that gil has the name recognition au is looking for. i think he might be a good fit...obviously, others disagree. i think the ptb are looking for someone huge. jgt, teebow for heisman!
ReplyDeleteron I agree I just can't decide everyone behind those two I just find more negatives than positives. What would you think?
ReplyDeleteI dont like Jimbo but he is proabably on the list
I am very opposed to Johnson
I think that Davis would be good dont know the chances of him though
I don't like Patterson because I really feel like hes good in the Mountain West which is no SEC
Steve- If we hire Muschamp, we are hoping for a Stoops / Richt outcome. I have no problem with Muschamp.
ReplyDeleteMy List is:
Gill
Muschamp
Johnson
In no particular order. I just find what Gill did at Buffalo amazing.
JD - Why do you think that about Johnson?
ReplyDeleteTar - did you get it fixed?
I wouldn't consider Paul Johnson just because he has only been at Georgia Tech a year. I wouldn't want a coach that would come in for just a year. Also, I think the effort would likely be a waste of time.
ReplyDeleteWhat gill did at Buffalo is almost like someone going to Temple and making them Champions.
ReplyDeleteoh, is it gil or gill?
ReplyDeleteMon - yes. I think it's funny that our 15 yr old weenie dog is teaching us "Mac-ese"
ReplyDeleteTarheel- Got to love those "weenie dogs." We have a 7 year old dacshund.
ReplyDeleteEddie, I do love the story at Buffalo. It is incredible. I just think that Auburn is a completely different world. I can see why some would want Fisher or Muschamp due to ties to Auburn, and they might be better choices in terms of recruiting.
ReplyDeleteSpurrier would be a pleasant surprise, but he would only be a short term solution.
I have serious doubts that Davis will want to get involved. The SEC is a tough world and the situation in the west has changed significantly with Nutt reviving Ole Miss and Petrino at Arkansas. Coaching at Auburn will be a tough task for any coach after this season.
Mon, the type of offense that Johnson runs isn't the type of offense that high school players want to go play in. There is a very good reason why traditional wing-t option teams like Nebraska, Oklahoma, and others have switched to a more modern offense. Johnson might have the ability to win early with our backs and that offense would fit Kodi well, but it's down the road where we would suffer. Auburn needs to decide to play an offense that is either Borges West Coast or some variation of the Spread, Wing-T offenses died in 1957
ReplyDeleteIt's Turner Gill
ReplyDeleteEvery time I read something about him it includes what a good recruiter he is. I also like that he's from Texas as I'm now obsessed with recruiting a QB from Texas.
"Gill, 45, who spent the 2005 season serving as Player Development Director and Offensive Assistant with the Green Bay Packers, was lauded as one of the nation’s top recruiters while an assistant coach at Nebraska from 1992-2004. The Cornhuskers won national titles in 1994, 1995 and 1997 during that span. " from UB site
This OK game is going to be good. Should Missouri upset Oklahoma, Texas is setting pretty.
ReplyDeleteEddie you hit the proverbial nail on the head with the Gill comment. That is what interests me about him. Also knowing his background as a recruiting coordinator at Nebraska when they were landing players like Tommy Frazier, Eric Crouch, and Lawrence Phillips. However I would always have in the back of my mind him going home to Nebraska.
ReplyDeleteGill just seemed so solid Friday night, like someone I would want to play for if I was a 18 year old recruit.
ReplyDeleteokay I am convinced Gill is on my list maybe not #3 but he's on it.
ReplyDeleteIt would be funny if Oklahoma lost tonight. Mass confusion to follow.
ReplyDeleteBammer losing today makes certain AU 2004 is still regarded the best team in the SEC in 10 years.
ReplyDeleteTurner Gill?
I haven't determined my opinion yet.
If Rodney Garner's brought in to coach up[ recruits --- I'm THERE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Exactly Monica. Gill is a great recruiter. There is a reason Buffalo has been bad. There is no talent in that state, especially that area. Go look at Buffalo's Roster, players from all the country and outside the country.
ReplyDeleteTX, CA, TN, MD, OH, PA, CT, IL, MI, AZ, IN, FL, MA, VA, Canada, Australia.
This guy goes out all over the country to find kids to come to Buffalo. What do you honestly think he will do at Auburn?
Biscuit- He could only go home to Nebraska if he was succesful at Auburn. I can live with that.
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ReplyDeleteI think his race could influence a small percentage of players. I think there (sadly) are still some good ole boys who wouldn't like the idea of playing for a black coach. On the other Hand, there are still many black players who feel that a white coach (or any white person) isn't going to have their back. People who were brought up in areas that where minorities are the strong majority.
ReplyDeleteI don't think it would be enough players in either direction to influence who you hired. I think it needs to go to the best coach, and color isn't even a factor.
Seems to me like Gill is a better fit at an MSU, a Syracuse, a Washington ... where he can learn without enormous pressure.
ReplyDeleteAuburn = enormous pressure.
I love the idea of Gill as next HC but --- he MUST souround himself with top notch talent in assistants!
ReplyDeleteR. Garner, S. Searles, J. Willis.
Guys, recuiting wins championships.
Florida proves that.
I'm willng to accept the Nebraska risk as long as we get 4 yr minimum from him
ReplyDeleteBiscuit- He could only go home to Nebraska if he was successful at Auburn. I can live with that.
ReplyDeleteLOL That's why you're my favorite, Eddie. Don't tell the others.
Yeah, let's make him put that 4 year thing in his contract cuz contracts are SOLID.
ReplyDeleteChris-I believe it is safe to say that we will more than likely have all those assistants back at Auburn unless there is some hidden big candidate. I don't think there is.
ReplyDeleteWhat Monica?
ReplyDeleteYou flip-flopper
So Jay, you're thinking Muschamp is a serious candidate now?
ReplyDeletecontract couldn't keep him at AU, but could sure make Nebraska pay to get him. just ask Michigan
ReplyDeleteI hope so Eddie.
ReplyDeleteAs far as good-ole-boys and football players .......
I can't begin to start explaining how much football players DON'T CARE ABOUT good-ole-boys.
Money beung paid out -- another thing.
sounds like we (me included) are already dictating that Gill can't bring his staff with him. Who needs Lowder interfering when we can handle it ourselves.
ReplyDeleteThanks Mon.
ReplyDeleteI feel like i'm in an election right now and campaigning for my candidate.
Now, %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%
ReplyDelete% of AU hiring Turner Gill?
Jay, you just poo poo'd it.
If Oklahoma loses the only programs that I feel like have an legitimate claim are USC and Penn St. both conference champions with 1 loss. I kind of get sick of Oklahoma always getting this "benefit of the doubt" in games when they always seem to get beat.
ReplyDelete2003 Oklahoma coming off a loss in the Bix XII Championship Game gets the nod over Pac 10 Champions USC to play SEC Champion LSU in the Sugar Bowl (2003 National Championship game) and gets beat by LSU. #3 USC goes on to defeat #4 ranked Michigan in the rose bowl and be awarded the Football Writers and AP National Championship.
2004 Undefeated Okalhoma gets nod over also undefeated Auburn to play undefeated USC in Orange Bowl (2004 National Championship Game). USC goes on to blow Oklahoma out 55-19. Auburn defeats Virginia Tech 16-13 in Sugar bowl to remain undefeated and end teh season ranked #2 behind National Champion USC.
2008 Oklahoma jumps University of Texas in last week of season to be selected at the team to represent the Bix XII south in the championship game. Texas, Oklahoma, and Texas Tech all ended the season 11-1 but Oklahoma got the nod despite losing to Texas 45-35 earlier in the season, because of the Big XII 3 team tie breaker which places the top ranked BCS team in the Big XII Championship game.
I mean isn't it a little rediculious that one team always seems to get these type of breaks?
I hate Chokelahoma!
Tarheel- I wish that it wasn't the case, but Dye seems to be pushing very hard for Willis, Gardner & Searles to be back at Auburn.
ReplyDeleteI think as one of only three African American men out of 117 Div 1 schools, Gill might be a little more familiar with all sorts of enormous pressure than most. I'm probably wrong.
ReplyDeleteYou're doing a great job, Eddie.
ReplyDeleteJay just poo poo'ed Muschamp and Fisher also.
ReplyDeleteWhen y'all posts books I can't read them. Just sayin.
ReplyDeleteYou beat me to it, Eddie.
ReplyDeleteEddie true I want a coach who is successful, but I also really want a coach who is all set to make another 10+ year run. That stability in the program has really seemed to help us out with the exception being this year.
ReplyDeleteMon, just read 'em I do not post long stuff very often!
ReplyDeleteMonnie Monnie -- I don't read past 1st sentence or two.
ReplyDeleteReally hush hush on the Butch Davis front huh?
Well all we need is a crystal ball. Why didn't you say that sooner.
ReplyDeleteBiscuit- There is nobody you can hire that you know at this point that could make a 10+ year run guaranteed.
ReplyDeleteButch Davis at Auburn
ReplyDeletevs
5'4" Nick Saban at Bammer
Best players on campus win!
sounds like Gill, if offered the job, would be wise to interview Garner, Searls, etc before deciding if he wants the job. Really weird to be doing a new coach the favor of choosing his assistants for him. But I admit, I sure would like those AU guys back home.
ReplyDeletethe hottest fires burn out the earliest.
ReplyDeleteRight now, I want a BLUE BLAZE!!!
Chris want white hot.
ReplyDeleteTrue Eddie, but forgive me for not wanting my school to be used as a spring board to other college jobs!
ReplyDeleteYou're forgiven.
ReplyDeleteNow, I need chocolate.
S. Searles was the OL coach at LSU and won a ring and considered a great coach.
ReplyDeleteR. Garner is considered the SEC's best recruiter. B E S T in the SEC. Oh, and an AUBURN man.
Why in the world wouyldn't the next AU coach want them in Auburn?
speaking of fire...CAMPFIRE!!!! Everyone who participates in this popcampfire is cooler in my book than they began the day.
ReplyDeleteAuburn is the place coaches come to dye. Tubs has the first real chance to break that mold.
ReplyDeleteMonica, Great idea!
ReplyDeleteMine will be ice cream with chocolate sauce. washed down with a diet coke, of course.
be back in a minute
Monnie -- I wanted a AU blue reference -- after CTT's ORANGE obbession.
ReplyDeleteBut white heat is not gonna help get Coach Gill -- wink wink.
I'm having breakfats with Santa --- Frosted Flake and Vanilla!
ReplyDeletewhere's the FARE?
ReplyDeleteThe girls in dorm K used to call me Monnie.
ReplyDeleteohhhh cereal! excellent option! I'll be back.
ReplyDeleteChris,
ReplyDeleteI'd love to get away from the orange thing. Sure it shows up great in the stands, but I'm blue da ba dee da ba dee i have a blue house with blue windows... Eiffel 65
Monnie?
ReplyDeleteokie dokie then.
I only wore orange once. AU lost. I've never worn orange since. Unfortunately, AU has still lost.
ReplyDeleteI wasn't very sure about Gill until I read up on him and got a chance to watch the game last night. I believe he would bring fresh blood to the plains. However, I am a little worried he's not experienced enough to deal with the things that happen at Auburn other than "X's and O's".
ReplyDeleteBUT...at this point...I am willing to take the gamble...to much UPside not to!!!
Eddie, do you have a problem with Auburn being such a good job that we don't have coaches resigning and then taking a job as a NFL position coach (shula), an alabama highschool (Dubose), a second rate Big XII school (Fran). I kind of like our coaches coming and spending the rest of their careers here.
ReplyDeleteok, maybe we have a game now in K.C.
ReplyDeletehttp://blog.al.com/goldmine/2008/12/auburn_gets_permission_to_talk.html
ReplyDeleteGuy, copy & paste the write up on Turner Gill at AL.COM.
Ok, that long of a piece makes me thinks he's hiored.
Auburn needs to stick with the orange. It looks so good on TV. In my opinion this year when we tried the whole Blue thing we the stands looked horrible.
ReplyDeleteBiscuit- I'm in agreement with you, that is what i meant by my post. Probably could have phrased it a lot better.
ReplyDeleteLink doesn't work Chris
ReplyDeleteDo you think it was a bad thing to do the ornage thing?
ReplyDeleteI liked the idea because it united the look of the stanbds on TV.
Now, Gill would have to listen to whaqt's around him and hire SEC veterans to wade the waters at AU.
Rodney Garner.
Chris please tell me your being sarcastic about the length of that goldberg article...
ReplyDeleteBarks -- go to google and type -- al.com auburn -- all the media coveage.
ReplyDeleteI need the links to put inside the <>'s
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