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Post-practice reaction, 8/6

Hey everyone. I didn't hear a lot of interesting stuff tonight. It happens.

Here's a roundup:
  • WR DeAngelo Benton and CB Demond Washington spent the entire practice on the field today. You know how the team has been splitting into two groups -- one on the field and one in the weight room? Not for those two. Gene Chizik said he's just trying to give assistant coaches more time to assess those two guys.

  • OL Aubrey Phillips confirmed that his friend (and Auburn signee) Daren Bates has been cleared by the NCAA. Bates is supposed to begin his college career tomorrow.

  • Auburn moves to "shells" (shoulder pads and helmets) for practice tomorrow. Chizik didn't seem dead-set on getting his team into full pads ASAP. ``We'll just wait and play it by ear and see what the health of our team is," he said.

  • LB Joshua Bynes on fellow LB Eltoro Freeman, who now is working with the No. 1 defense at weak-side linebacker: ``He’s still about the same to me. He’s still the type of guy who doesn’t like to mess up. He likes to be perfect. He’s still fast. He’s electrifying to watch and every drill he does, he likes to be full speed."

  • Bynes had some not-so-nice things to say about former defensive coordinator Paul Rhoads' defensive approach. Rhoads now is head coach at Iowa State. I hear that's a plum job; a place for winners.

    Anyway, here's how Bynes described the difference between Rhoads and current Auburn defensive czar Ted Roof: ``Roof is the type of guy who will let us go full speed. If you miss, at least you miss full speed. Rhoads was the type who wanted us to break down and make sure we make the proper tackle."

Photo credit: Todd Van Emst/Auburn University


Blogger §teve From Columbia said...


9:17 PM  
Blogger §teve From Columbia said...

Demond Washington is going to be very important in terms of depth. I am looking forward to seeing him play. He has star potential.

9:18 PM  
Blogger Dear Leader said...

good night all

9:18 PM  
Blogger §teve From Columbia said...

Goodnight DL.

9:18 PM  
Blogger Dear Leader said...

thanks JGT until tommorrow

9:19 PM  
Blogger Jay G. Tate said...


9:19 PM  
Blogger Norm said...

Great work today and everyday Sportswriter Tate.

9:22 PM  
Blogger ehyou said...

It's a HABOTN smorgasbord!!!

9:24 PM  
Blogger scottie b in tennessee said...

extra reps for the freshmen. gotta put that work in playa.

9:24 PM  
Blogger FSJ said...


9:25 PM  
Blogger scottie b in tennessee said...

yeah, and working the snow-cone cart down at the zoo is a 'plum' job too. goooooo cyclones. gag.

9:28 PM  
Blogger ehyou said...

There's a chance that THT could be espousing the virtues of #21 in the coming decades. I sure hope so.

Hitting or missing tackles at full speed embodies Auburn football. I am a Roof philosophy proponent.

9:31 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm not completely sure I like Bynes comment about Rhodes. I distinctly remember Bynes attempting to throw down John Parker during the Iron Bowl last year, and in his fit of intensity start celebrating while in the meantime JPW didn't go down and completed a long pass on what should've been a huge loss.

9:32 PM  
Blogger Jay G. Tate said...

It's hard to not call him Ted Roof Rusted all the time.

9:37 PM  
Blogger FSJ said...


The former coaches are always the first ones to be thrown under the bus. I thought Auburn had a good defense last year. The offensive ineptitude wore them down as the year went on.

9:39 PM  
Blogger WarEagleRK said...

As long as they are wrapping up and tackling at full speed, then I'm fine with it...if all they are doing is throwing a shoulder into someone and bouncing off of them at full speed, then there is a problem.

9:43 PM  
Blogger §teve From Columbia said...

Rhoads was a very good coach. Different philosophies doesn't mean one if right and one is wrong.

9:43 PM  
Blogger §teve From Columbia said...

KMo makes a good point. Our linebacker bouncing off JPW was very embarrassing.

9:44 PM  
Blogger §teve From Columbia said...

Chizik's DB philosophy was a bit different than Boom's. Boom had his DBs in tight coverage and occasionally gave up big plays. Chiz was more about making them pay for touching the ball. Both philosophies worked.

9:47 PM  
Blogger WarEagleRK said...

I would remove the "very" and say Rhodes was a good coach.

Occasionally you have to blitz, and he never seemed to want to do that.

Fundamentally he was very strong, we didn't miss tackles until late in the season when the D was just too tired to care.

9:48 PM  
Blogger WarEagleRK said...

I'd take Chiz coaching the secondary and Boom coaching the front 7.

That would be the perfect combo.

9:49 PM  
Blogger §teve From Columbia said...

I preferred Chizik as a DC, but Muschamp was definitely a great one too.

9:52 PM  
Blogger ehyou said...

I acknowledge Muschamp's coaching ability. His sideline personality was obscene and unacceptable to me.

10:08 PM  
Blogger Big Bird said...

Evening hotsters:

I kind of liked Muschamp's intensity on the sideline, although I didn't care for an AU coach launching f-bombs for ESPN mikes to pick up.

I did not like his philosophy of allowing the deep ball to kill us....a lot. He also had a tendency to forget that it was a bad thing for UGA to score points. Other than that he was great.

10:15 PM  
Blogger wtc said...

Been in B'ham celebrating daughter's 18th b'day. Went to eat at a place called the Melting Pot.

Everyone needs to go there once. Not a place I will be eager to go back to.

10:21 PM  
Blogger wtc said...

after reviewing the videos for the day, it seems quite obvious to me that Caudle has much better technique than Burns. Now if he can throw the ball to his own receivers. Did anyone listen to the audio in the clips. Coaches were telling the QB to lead the WR's more. Burns threw behind a couple of guys and jsut seems to have trouble throwing the ball. almost like he is forcing it.

10:23 PM  
Blogger Tar Heel Tiger said...

JayGT - I sure hope you're home in bed by now. But thanks for all the news, pics, & vids

I just finished running the audio from yesterday's video through the filter. Finally figured out what that was I heard:

Malzahn: Alright Kodi, now throw the quick out to no NO.....BEN Tate!

10:25 PM  
Blogger Jay G. Tate said...

I still am in Auburn.

10:25 PM  
Blogger michael said...

I think Rhoads was the perfect medicine for the D last year. They had gotten sloppy and undisciplined in many ways the couple of years before (though still quite impressive most of the time). It may not have been a fun way to be coached, but I think using the right technique and being disciplined in practice pays off in the game.

That being said, it can also be a good thing to have a looser coach follow a tighter coach. Much like republicans and democrats rotating in power, it is a good thing to have things run from a different point of view from time to time.

10:25 PM  
Blogger scottie b in tennessee said...

another late nite for JGT. thanks bubba.

10:28 PM  
Blogger Tar Heel Tiger said...

holy cow. I think CGC needs to rethink these evening practices and late nights. We've got All-American talent, but not much depth behind Writer Tate. We need to keep him fresh for the season!

10:31 PM  
Blogger Jay G. Tate said...

I have another video ready.

It will debut tomorrow morning ... 9ish CDT.

10:32 PM  
Blogger Jay G. Tate said...

I have departing now.

See you all in the morning.

10:33 PM  
Blogger Tar Heel Tiger said...

republicans & dems? different point of view? They're all just crooks from my perspective. They both steal from me, the only difference is the dems at least tell me they're going to do it.

10:34 PM  
Blogger Tar Heel Tiger said...

safe travels, JGT!

10:34 PM  
Blogger AUBigCat said...

Just left campus a few minutes ago. My wife's cousin will start her AU career in a few days. Her parents moved her into the new Village apartments... then drove home to Tuscaloosa. LOL The pain and agony on their faces as their eldest child settled into her new Orange and Blue life was priceless! I love family reunions!

Hate Bama ... flush the floaters!

10:40 PM  
Blogger j-z said...

I thought Caudle's mechanics looked better than Kodi's, but I'm an idiot. Maybe we'll get to see a few passes from Todd soon.

Here's my vote for tomorrow's intro music. Not the original, but tasty nonetheless.

Blind Melon -- Three is a magic number

10:41 PM  
Blogger j-z said...

Takes about 15 seconds for the sound to kick in.

10:43 PM  
Blogger Monica said...

BigCat! Seeing this "flush the floaters!" from you cracked me up! You're just the sweetest, most polite guy ever. I love it! HAHAHA


10:45 PM  
Blogger Kathy said...

wtc, we took our daughter to the Melting Pot in Hsv for her 20th birthday last month. We just ordered the cheese and chocolate fondues. That chocolate was good stuff! Not a place I would visit often, but we did enjoy the experience.

10:48 PM  
Blogger AUBigCat said...

LOL Thanks Mon! I think it was just the fact that I spent about an hour escorting bama lovin, Auburn hatin' kin folks around my beloved campus and they couldnt even appreciate the fact that they were standing on hallowed ground. lol But I still love em like in-laws.

10:52 PM  
Blogger wtc said...

It was good, but as you said not a place I will go often, if again. We ordered the cheese the meat and the desert. About 33 per head. A bit pricey for girls that do nto eat very much. had LOTS of leftovers so I've got that going for me.

10:52 PM  
Blogger wtc said...

Hey Mon-How are you? Been out of town working and only get to lurk with very few posts this week.

10:53 PM  
Blogger Big Bird said...

The Melting Pot is code for "place where your money disappears". Not a big fan of fondue but I get outvoted 3-1 by my peeps so I just grin and bear it.

10:53 PM  
Blogger wtc said...

Your money melts that is for sure.

10:57 PM  
Blogger Kathy said...

Tickets are suppose to be mailed a week from today!!!

10:58 PM  
Blogger j-z said...

I got my tickets for the game in Knoxville today. Sweet.

10:58 PM  
Blogger Monica said...

ha @ " like in laws" I have no doubt you were a gracious host, BigCat!

Hey there WTC - I figured you were working hard. Glad you got to have dinner with your beautiful daughter on her b'day.

11:03 PM  
Blogger Monica said...

I've been to the Melting Pot in Nashville. I concur with WTC's opinion.

I'm so jealous of all you folks getting tickets and making multiple game attendance plans!

11:05 PM  
Blogger Kathy said...

Maybe next year Monica!

11:06 PM  
Blogger Monica said...

That's what I'm telling myself, Kathy! ha Thanks :-)
At least I know y'all will be representin' HUGE!

11:08 PM  
Blogger Kathy said...

Hotties will definitely be in the house!

11:10 PM  
Blogger jhag said...

Yeah Babeeeeeeey

12:03 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Good morning, Hotties and Happy Friday!!! Where is TarHeel?? I look forward to reading about who has the honors each day!

5:13 AM  
Blogger Loganville Tiger said...

'Mornin All!!

Just watched the clip from yesterday. It looked to me that Neil has the Much easier throwing motion and mechanics - it looks effortless. Kodi looks to me as he is working to throw the ball - lots of extra movement in his throw. The little on the tape seemed Neil threw a more catchable ball too.

Just an observation from an ex-midget football QB .....


5:55 AM  
Blogger Dear Leader said...


6:07 AM  
Blogger Loganville Tiger said...

Can you translate the post from fengfk2008 posted above please Dear Leader? Looks to have substance....


6:16 AM  
Blogger Tar Heel Tiger said...


The Cairo, GA, native arrived on the plains in the fall of 1984, along with fellow Georgian Kevin Porter. Although Duke was generally overshadowed by fellow receivers Lawyer Tillman and Freddie Weygand, he did lead the Tigers in receptions during the 1987 season.

Honorable mentions to LB Derrick Graves and RB Chris Linderman. Any other 29 shout outs?


p.s. he's not a former Tiger, but day 29 can't go by without me giving a shout out to Felipe Alou.
p.p.s. The competition for tomorrow is just too keen. We may have to have a cage match tonight to sort it all out.

6:39 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I just watched the Burns/Caudle video and I must agree with everyone's assessment. I don't know a whole about football, but it seemed that Neil's throwing motion was much more fluid than Kodi's. It also seemed like there was more "oomph" on the ball.

6:40 AM  
Blogger Eddie said...

Good Morning All!!!!!! TGIF!!!

Hoopie- Rollison will play! Book it! Like I said, the Express is starting to roll. :)!!

Scottie- I'd probably have to put the picture in my office, my wife wouldn't have it above the bed, but at least at the office, I would have more time to enjoy it.

6:41 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

TarHeel said...
The competition for tomorrow is just too keen. We may have to have a cage match tonight to sort it all out.

TarHeel, but you're a lover not a fighter, right?

6:42 AM  
Blogger Eddie said...

THT- I'm impressed. Throwing Duke Donaldson out there. I have no idea who he was until your reference. Good job!

6:42 AM  
Blogger Loganville Tiger said...

Wow - we were kind' short on 29's with substance......

Nice job THT


6:43 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

First USA Today Poll is out for consumption.

Don't be surprised our Auburn Tigers did not make the Top 25. They won't be cracking it all year.

It's dark times on the Plains but I look forward to the light at the end of the tunnel and just hope it's not a train.


6:50 AM  
Blogger Eddie said...

HH- I'm not saying that we will ever be a worthy Top 25 team, but if we are 4-0 heading into the UT game, then we will be in the Top 25. I do see where we received 12 votes.

6:53 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


We won't be 4-0 heading into the Tennessee game. We will be 2-2 at best.

Auburn will lose the opener and will lose to West Virginia.

6:55 AM  
Blogger WarEagleRK said...

Hudson Hawk bringing the sunshine on a Friday morning.

6:58 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sorry, gang, but rebuilding projects are always messy at the start.

6:59 AM  
Blogger ehyou said...

Auburn got some points in the poll. That means someone put them in the top 25. Be advised that coaches ain't dumb.

Not only will Auburn be 4-0, they will be 5-0. Arkansas will be tough.

7:01 AM  
Blogger ehyou said...

One poor season does not a rebuilding make. We got good players, we got good coaches, we will win games.

7:03 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I have to disagree with HH. I do not think it's dark time on the Plains at all. Maybe last season, but this season looks bright and there will be even brighter days after that.

7:07 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

No quarterback and lack of depth are the biggest problems.

Good thing is with a new staff comes new energy especially in recruiting. It won't take long to rebuild Auburn. I am sure of it.

7:08 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I take solice that neither LSU (a team I truly despise) nor Alabama will win the West this year either.

Ole Miss is real.

7:09 AM  
Blogger Eddie said...

HH- I'm no sunshine pumper for this season, but 2-2 in the first 4 games is the best you see this team? I know we can be 2-2, but I actually feel that we have a realistic shot to be 4-0.

7:14 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm no sunshine pumper either and have actually been called a pessimist (I prefer "realist"), but one thing I do know is that Auburn will be better than last season.

7:22 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

La. Tech is loaded with talent. Talent that beat an SEC team we got by 3-2 last year.

West Virginia boatraced us and they are not going to drop as far as some think.

We should handle Mississippi State and Ball State.

Tennessee is a toss up to me.

7:29 AM  
Blogger Eddie said...

For those of you that missed the podcast, it replaying again in about 2 minutes on Blog Talk Radio. My brother co-hosted with me and had some good insight on Chizik, especially since he was on the Iowa State sidelines for a game last year.

Replay of Auburn Football Insider Podcast from 8-5-09

7:29 AM  
Blogger Eddie said...

HH- I'll give you that La Tech is a good team and a dangerous game for us. We still have way more fire power than they do as far as personnel goes and we should win. We may not win, but we should. Miss State will be pretty bad this year, just too much culture shock going on there and playing them early is a lot better than playing them later. West Virginia lost 4 Offensive lineman and it's Star QB that will force them to change their offense to be a more balanced team. I understand they still have the lethal Noel Devine, but this game is more of a toss-up situation than us just being the dogs. Ball State was good last year, but it lost a ton, we should win.

7:35 AM  
Blogger Big Bird said...

Good morning everyone:

Even as snakebit, injury prone and dysfuntional as we were last year, we still had double digit halftime leads in 5 of our 7 losses. This is not a team devoid of talent. Thin yes but not tragically so.

7:36 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

La. Tech 21 Auburn 14
Auburn 24 MSU 3
West Virginia 17 Auburn 10
Auburn 23 Ball State 14

My predictions on the first 4 games scores.

7:42 AM  
Blogger WarEagleRK said...

Ole Miss will be 8-4 or 9-3, because that's what Nutt does no matter how much talent he has.

If we don't score more than 24 on a Ball State team that lost everything from their good year last year, then Gus isn't as good as advertised.

7:57 AM  
Blogger Eddie said...

"There's no sunshine when she's gone...."

7:59 AM  
Blogger WarEagleRK said...

In the first 5 games, I think we can be anywhere from 5-0 to 3-2.

The West Virginia game is intriguing, because they are breaking in a new QB and I'm guessing his first road game will be at JH, so that can be pretty intimidating, especially at night.

8:01 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

West Virginia's new QB isn't that new. He played a lot for the oft injured Patrick White.

Ole Miss is better than people think. Though Nutt's underachievement is legendary.

Tennessee will throttle us. They will be on high after they upset Florida.

8:07 AM  
Blogger Eddie said...

Thanks to Sensi for finding this gem, Alabama Cowboy Prediction, must click for entertainment:

Typical Bamer and his Predictions

8:11 AM  
Blogger Monica said...

We we will not lose to WVU.
You can put your egg money on that one.

8:19 AM  
Blogger WarEagleRK said...

"Tennessee will throttle us. They will be on high after they upset Florida."

This is where you lost me.

UT has just as many question marks and depth concerns as we do, all the concerns you had about Auburn are the exact concerns that UT has.

So after spending all summer talking trash about Florida, you think UT is going to go to the swamp and beat Flordia? UF has probably spent all summer working on beating UT. Kiffin's quotes are probably all over the weight room and locker room. That game isn't going to be pretty.

8:21 AM  
Blogger patdyeswildturkey said...

BHam News had a good article on your depth issues. Saying as of today, we will start the season with 75 players and the league cap is normally 85. They went over the numbers from the last four recruiting classes. So if anyone wants to play or transfer, walk on to Auburn this is the time to do it.

8:23 AM  
Blogger WarEagleRK said...


What the hell was that?

Seriously, there needs to be some kind of licensing program before people are allowed internet access.

8:24 AM  
Blogger scottie b in tennessee said...

Meyer & the Gators are gonna stomp a mud hole in Kiffin & the Vols. take it to the house.

8:25 AM  
Blogger mytommyd said...

Just saw yesterday's practice vid - Schoolhouse Rock Intro AWESOME!! Love watching guys throw passes and receivers actually catching (well there was that one drop).

8:26 AM  
Blogger patdyeswildturkey said...


The guy used to get drunk and do these reviews on his webcast. Then once he got famous, well, Alabama famous. It all got to his head. He was on Finebaum. He started thinking he was a damn celebrity. Yea, he doesnt know we are not laughing with him but at him. The best youtube clips were when he did not have many followers.

The one where he talks about the Florida/Alabama game is priceless. I wont tell you what he says about Tebow and Florida. Its classic.

8:28 AM  
Blogger michael said...

I had a dream last night about a HABOTN board meeting. I will have to tell you guys all about it later.

8:31 AM  
Blogger Eddie said...

RK- Agreed and like PDWT said, this guy got famous last year with this crap, but it is funny.

HH- Now that I know you think UT is beating UF, i'm fine with your predictions and beliefs on AU.

8:32 AM  
Blogger Eddie said...

Is Michael off to the bathroom to conduct the board meeting?

8:32 AM  
Blogger WarEagleRK said...

I take it that I missed Hatin' w/Jay G. this morning?

8:33 AM  
Blogger Eddie said...

Crap, I missed it too.

8:36 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


I'll take your egg money and double it.

WVU is not the washout many think they are.

8:41 AM  
Blogger ehyou said...

WVU is the same washout they've always been.

8:42 AM  
Blogger Eddie said...

WV- Will be back to irreleavant in the near future. They almost were last year.

8:43 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Enough WVU.

I'm here for Auburn. I hope a lot of the young guys get a lot of chances to play this year.

Build for the future...

8:45 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Eddie...thanks for that Bammer link. I needed a good laff and reminder of why I hate Bammer.

HEY!!!....Alabama Cowboy..... please tell me why you need a "camaflouged" longneck koozie. Just how liquid courage do you need in order to go sit in a tree and ambush deer?

8:45 AM  
Blogger ehyou said...

New thread up.

8:45 AM  
Blogger Monica said...

HH - I take Pay Pal.

We get WVU at home this time.
Jarrett Brown replaces Pat White. He has a good arm, but weak leaks. He's not very mobile and tends to force it. This is behind a very inexperienced OL. He will be taking some hits so keeping him healthy is a big issues. Not to mention their backup QB broke his foot and may not even be ready to play.

8:48 AM  

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