7.23.2010

SNAPSHOTS: Ziemba has seen agent runners at Auburn

Hey everyone. In talking with Lee Ziemba today, he said something very interesting.

The senior said he's seen agent runners, the guys who do an agent's dirty work, around campus before. How does he know them?

"They usually introduce themselves," Ziemba said.

Isn't that weird?

``You know who you're dealing with," he said, ``and you also know those rules. Not a lot goes unnoticed around Auburn. We know what's going on, what the rules are. Auburn does a great job of telling us."

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Josh Bynes said the team has adopted an interesting theme this season.

Eight ain't it.

What does it mean? Strength and conditioning coach Kevin Yoxall developed the phrase to remind players to strive for more than eight wins this season.

``Eight ain't it because eight ain't going to get you nowhere," Bynes said. ``Eight wins might get us to an Outback Bowl or a Champs Sports Bowl. That's not our plan this year. The games we lost -- Georgia, Alabama and Kentucky -- that easily could have changed our season to 11-2. That could have put us in the one of the BCS bowls. Obviously, we didn't finish strong enough. That's why we have to do a better job finishing because eight definitely ain't it."

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Ziemba said he looked into the possibility of buying private insurance to protect himself (financially) in the event of injury. One glance at the informational handout ended that idea.

``The premiums are extremely high," he said. ``And it only covers you where you can't play the game again -- not an ACL injury or something like that. I'd have to get a second job (to pay the premiums). I looked at the NCAA policy, too, but once I saw the private premiums, I was like: No."


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Bynes was asked about newcomers who have impressed him.

His list included CB Jonathan Mincy, LB/DE LaDarius Owens, LB Jake Holland, DL Jeffrey Whitaker and DL Kenneth Carter.

``(Mincy) has come in and understands a lot of the stuff," Bynes said. ``He's been out there doing his thing. Defensive line, Whitaker and Carter. Carter, for his size, can run. When we do a lot of our sprints, he's up in the front because he can run for his size."

Photo credit: Todd Van Emst/Auburn University

Questions? Comments? Post directly to the blog below or email me at jgtate@gannett.com.

503 comments:

  1. THIS THREAD HAS BEEN ZIEMBA'D!!!!!

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  2. Go Scottie B!

    GO ZIEMBA!!! Just not too soon!

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  3. i love me some Ziemba. hope he mauls down all those stinkin' DE's & LB's this year.

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  4. Roof should let the Bull practice his tackling on those runners.

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  5. Let's call him IHOP, cause he's going to serve up more pancakes than we can eat this fall.

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  6. By the way, that's an agent runner in my avatar.

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  7. and all this time I thought those agents' runners just hid in the bushes.

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  8. THT, i'll tell him at fan day. see if he likes being called IHOP.

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  9. Maybe all the Hotties can cover his premium ;-)

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  10. all 3 of those could come in very handy this fall.

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  11. Better that we cover Mark Ingram's premium and then report ourselves.

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  12. yeah, we can say it was FSJ's idea.

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  13. where is FSJ this week? i miss his camoflauged AU-lovin' self.

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  14. False Start.

    :-)

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  15. Yep, I'm pretty sure I remember FSJ suggesting that. I think he even suggested it directly to some UAT players at one of those agent parties he had at his house.

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  16. that was impeccable timing, FSJ.

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  17. nice. busy workin' out the kinds on the new iphone, eh?

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  18. speaking of which, FSJ, you've got FSJ@BS mail

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  19. I'm ashamed. I've got to go do some work before the entire AU blawggin is finished.

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  20. LaDarius Owens' mean stare impresses me. even for a freshman (or high school senior) i wouldn't mess with that dude.

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  21. just got my new Iphone 4. Loving the HD Video and face chat. Pretty darn cool.

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  22. EDSBS delivered a low blow to Ziemba on their Auburn wrap-up. Lovely.

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  23. THT...Replied.

    scottie, once Apple announced their quarterly results the focus shifted away from the death grip on the iPhone to how good a company Apple is. Just like I thought.

    BTW, my iPhone 4 works beautifully.

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  24. Ladarious Owens shares the same threatening look that Takeo Spikes sported. I hope that their playing careers are also similar.

    Thanks JGT for the great info. Any chance you take a short trek to Regions Park to see the 7 on 7 tourney which conveniently features AU commits Frazier and Denson?

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  25. Anonymous10:56 AM

    Seriously, I could see allowing schools to pay the premium on policies like that. It would encourage kids to stay in school if they knew they had some protection from loss of future income.

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  26. Anonymous10:58 AM

    FSJ, the iPad is a thing of beauty as well.

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  27. Just added something about the new phrase ... eight ain't it.

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  28. The EDSBS people are ... exactly what I expected.

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  29. I know Denson had at least one TD at the 7 on 7 tourney yesterday (on a long pass reception).

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  30. "Eight ain't it"...I like it!

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  31. so JG, you're saying 'They are who we thought they were!'???

    Bynes is right. 8 ain't it....nowhere close.

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  32. Sorry, I have missed all the morning fun....driving by and going back to reading all the good stuff.......

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  33. Anonymous11:07 AM

    14 would do nicely though.

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  34. It was a hail mary anyway but looks like both Hoover and Shiloh will be done by noon.

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  35. Stupid pimps on campus.

    At least Ziemba didn't jump the gun and sign up for insurance without reading more about it.

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  36. thanks, FSJ!

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    here's a great interview with Chuck Person by Rachel Morand of the Auburn Villager

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  37. I like the concept of the university paying for player insurance. I know the NCAA wants players to be treated like any other student, and they should be as soon as students start getting career ending injuries in biology class.

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  38. JayG...do go on about the EDSBS people. Those guys crack me up...you know, except for the Ziemba comment earlier.

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  39. I enjoy reading EDSBS occasionally. You know I don't read much about college football in my spare time.

    I find their cattiness funny.

    Still, they're content to sit up on the perch and lob salvos. They're like the old guys on the Muppet Show who always crab about everything.

    Except these balcony dwellers are 25 years old ... but I ain't hatin'.

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  40. speakin' of HATIN....which station will we be tuning into this fall for our HATE segments?

    don't think we forgot about those!

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  41. Anonymous11:25 AM

    Sooner or later the NCAA is going to have to recognize that these students are responsible for a lot of income for their schools and deserve some compensation beyond the cost of education. Some protection of future income would be a start.

    The concept that they are no different than any other student may be nice in concept but is blatantly false.

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  42. Scottie, I have been considering a few options to that end. Nothing has been firmed up just yet.

    I'd like to have one show.

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  43. The insurance would be a start, but the other thing is that there is no way these players can work a part time job, especially during the season. They are fundamentally different than other students.

    To provide some compensation for playing football wouldn't be unreasonable. It could simply be paying them the minimum wage for some fixed number of hours per week, maybe 20.

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  44. Proud of MiniWEG for her first "first" post!! Keeping it in the family this week.

    Jay the extra substance is sweet. I might even cheer for Ziemba this year.

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  45. EDSBS does crack me up sometimes....just a little old fashioned for the language.

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  46. I love Ziemba. We all kid about his false starts, but you don't see many holding penalties on him. Great left tackles are very valuable, and he is great. The guy will be playing on Sundays.

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  47. SFC - your 11:16 was right funny. Good point too.

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  48. Anonymous11:37 AM

    I agree SFC. It doesn't have to be much. A little pocket money would go a long way.

    Time to get back to work. Thanks for hhe lunch time substance Jay.

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  49. Universities paying insurance for players never needs to happen. It's a bad idea all around and would cost a ton of money. Everyone thinks they are a top draft pick and would want it.

    The system is very fair with the way it's setup now. No compensation needed. Most players that need money, qualify for pell grants, which is essentially free money. A lot of the players that I knew and lived with at Sewell Hall had more money than I did. A scholarship with room and board is more than fair. A majority of these players are not going to play in the NFL and if they take advantage of their education, it more than pays for itself in the future.

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  50. Not saying that players shouldn't get some sort of extra compensation, but I knew a lot of players in my day at Auburn and none of them were hurting as much as I was. They get tuition, books, housing, 3 meals per day and a lot of clothing.

    Paying these players will not stop the agents from paying them on the side. Have you ever turned down a raise?

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  51. Insurance would be a great form of extra compensation.

    Eddie, spot on. I worked two jobs at times just so I could pay tuition, books, room and board.

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  52. So how would have insurance worked out for Jevan Snead last season?

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  53. I'm going to live blog Les Miles. He's too good to miss. His Oil Spill rant is going to be epic.

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  54. Belated congrats to MiniWEG for her SUBSTANCIO on the earlier thread ...

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  55. Can't blame you for live blogging Miles. Get him while you can, he might not be here next year to enjoy.

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  56. Hmmm, I don't think I have ever heard anyone refer to Miles as Mr. Personality.

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  57. Question for coach Miles. Coach, do you feel you will be fired during the season, or will they wait until the season is over?

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  58. Miles is an outstanding interview. He speaks openly and honestly about a lot of stuff.

    His socioeconomic rants are truly wondrous.

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  59. Where is Michael? He is about the miss the biggest idiot to ever walk the ear...universe.

    Just watching him speak makes me want to punch him in the face.

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  60. We interrupt this football talk for a lunch update:

    1st sandwich = home grown tomato and pimiento cheese

    2nd sandwich = home grown tomato and home grown cucumber

    Love the summer veggies! The Lake Martin blueberries on my cereal this morning didn't suck either. (Lest anyone think I have vegetarian leanings, allow me to mention the awesome chorizo burger I ate at Flip a couple of nights ago).

    Carry on.

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  61. By the way, I blame THT for inspiring me to comment about my lunch.

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  62. Dooley had some good comments on the agent subject. Seemed to me that he took a little shot at little $aban.

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  63. Man, I love socioeconomic rant substance.

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  64. Your avatar paid the price for that burger you had the other night.

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  65. Agents should only be allowed to contact players during practice on the field. That way inappropriate behavior can be dealt with quickly. Players should be allowed to give them parting shots.

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  66. did anyone ask dooley how much is sucks to have bryce brown on his team?

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  67. david pollack on espnu right now. they were ragging him bad early this morning. he looks like he has lost about 150 lbs. i wish he had thought to do that while he was at uga.

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  68. Miles is leading Saban in the "Best coach" poll on the SEC website. Chiz wasn't an option, so I voted for Miles just to hopefully annoy some Bammers.

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  69. Two weeks after exploding onto the scene at the Palmetto State Showdown, Jaylon Denson did not disappoint Thursday. The catches came early and often for the Auburn commit.

    a statement about the 7 on 7 tourney.

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  70. Jay,

    What are your thoughts on what type of interview the following folks are:

    Chizik
    Saban
    Spurrier
    Richt

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  71. FSJ, the answer on Chizik is simple. He leads the nation in his ability to talk for hours without actually saying anything.

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  72. HD is not good to David Pollack. He looks like he's been shooting up heroin for a few weeks now.

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  73. Call me bammer, because I often like what Saban says, as long as he leaves out historical references.

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  74. Wasn't it Saban who said that Bama fans suck and were the reason a bunch of mormons beat the crap out of them? I got to respect that. I may be paraphrasing a bit, but that is definitely well thought out insightful comments.

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  75. PF, I knew I could count on you:)

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  76. If xcTT became the bammer coach I think SFC would switch over.

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  77. I can't figure out what to do about lunch. There's a good bbq place, but it's across town. There's a really good sandwich shop that serves steak in a sack that I'm kinda craving, but it's also across town. There's a bunch of dives around our neighborhood that I've thought about trying, but I'm not looking to get disappointed today if something isn't good.

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  78. Vandy may have gotten the next best thing to Malzahn.

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  79. CH=B, if Hitler was playing Bamer, I would root for Hitler, regardless of who the Bamer coach was. You hear that!!! Hitler!!!

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  80. scottchoc- went to flip the same day as brewfest and got the chorizo burger. We are like beer/food soulmates. Also just missed choc oak aged yeti stout at mellow mushroom this week. sold out in 2 days

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  81. Of course, I do have some love for Tuberville. Here is part of a letter to him.

    I loved you then I guess I'll love you forever
    And even though I know we could never stay together
    I think about how it could have been
    If we could just start all over again

    And I'll never be the same without you here
    I'll live alone, hide myself behind my tears
    No I'll never be the same without your love
    I'll live alone, try so hard to rise above

    It was good for me
    It was good for you
    Now nothing either of us can say or do
    Can change the way you feel today
    Sometimes love just slips away

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  82. I have started a new thread for LSU, but I will drop it below the Auburn stuff once it ends.

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  83. Hey Harrison,

    We definitely need to have a good brew together sometime. Let me know next time you're going to be in B'ham.

    I'll bet that Yeti stout was good. My bro-in-law lucked up in ATL and was at a bar that had some Bell's special brew (don't remember what it was called, but he said it was awesome). The whole city apparently only had something like 12 kegs of it. Sometimes you just have to get lucky, huh?

    Hope this ain't the Beasley post!

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  84. i come to the ham a decent bit for golf/friends/mom lives there. If you come to a game this year come by our tailgate. I will save you a special beer without spit in it.

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  85. Those Chizik comments were profound and thought provoking....NOT.

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  86. A fresh tomato and pimento cheese sandwich sounds outstanding.

    So despite missing the Beasley post, I declare ChocoScott not a total screw up.

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  87. I'm headed home.

    Talk with you all in a bit.

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  88. Which thread is everyone posting on?

    New forum fear, new forum fear.

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  89. let's see, would I want to be on an AU thread or an LSwho thread, mytommyd.

    I'll let you figure that one out!

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  90. I just listened to Ziemba speak. You really get the feeling he loves Auburn. I really like that kid.

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  91. Just post anywhere you want! Anarchy!

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  92. Should we just talk back and forth on both threads? :)

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  93. Guess I should just get back to work :)
    Guess my thread has ended.

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  94. Thanks for your support, ehyou! It is my firm belief that pimiento cheese sandwiches should always be supplemented with a home grown tomato. It is even better if the pimiento cheese is homemade.

    PF, will the beer be spit-free?

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  95. Auburn A-Day game on ESPNU.

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  96. Jay G, I think you misquoted, took out of context or misunderstood Miles.

    He said, "I hope The Hat stays next year."

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  97. I'm waiting for Johnny Knoxville of the show "Jacka$$" to come flying into the room and dump a bag of flour on Ziemba's head and run out laughing. If I could put up a comparison photo of Lee Ziemba and Bam Margera, I would. They (or at least their faces) look like twins to me. Am I the only one that sees this??

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  98. SC,

    I do not condone such behavior. Harrison has questionable morals. He's okay, though, because he knows Smitty.

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  99. don't see it, baldy. sorry.

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  100. Just to add to forum fear. There will probably be blog post comments AND forums. Brains may explode.

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  101. Re:where to post, I thought JGT was going to put the Chiz thread at the top, not the Zee thread. Those both being Auburn threads made me scared. I knew we'd be leaving the Hat thread at some point, although its the last of theMedia days threads.

    So Ive decided that since it's Friday - it's time to go have a drink. Maybe pop back a few co-colas

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  102. Ok, baldy, I do see it in the picture on the front page. Very Bamesque.

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  103. It's almost too much to fathom PF. Is there an ETA on the big reveal? Ever since that whole "New Coke versus Coke" thing, I've never been good with change (even though I've only been posting here a few weeks).

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  104. after the afternoon i've had today a few drinks & a little NCAA11 sounds like a good nite.

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  105. I'm concerned I'm going to post in a blog and not a forum, or visa versa, and then the movie scanners will be realized at my work area, and people are NOT going to want to clean up that mess.

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  106. MTD - you've got a panty on your head.

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  107. Scottie I will bring the beer.

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  108. bring a 2nd controller too. i've only got one.

    Sam Adams.

    stat!

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  109. That's right PF and i can introduce you too Smitty if you play your cards right, or just show up at a tailgate, whichever

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  110. My wife turns up the A/C to 81 every morning when she wakes up. She doesn't care if me and the dog are hot. I'm glad we don't stay home during the day very often.

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  111. 1 controller...man what kind of gamer are you.

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  112. A-day looks mucho better in HD. I was still on CRT when it was first aired.

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  113. I will bring a controller and 1 beer.

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  114. Smitty is a mighty man with the integrity of an eagle.

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  115. apparently i'm a very lonely gamer.

    i don't play that much. the kids (dogs) usually takes most of my attention.

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  116. My child is asleep right now. Why couldn't she do that when I wanted to stay in bed this morning?

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  117. because she hates you

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  118. scottieb - I'm a very lonely gamer too. So lonely in fact that I have no gaming system whatsoever at my crib.

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  119. If Saban doesn't like Pimps ... they must be wonderful.

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  120. Bitch needs to chill with the mixed signals, then. She was very happy to see me when I came home.








    Yes, I'm talking about a dog.

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  121. I'm with Baldy, change is difficult. The thing I like about this blog is I don't miss anything. If there are several things to follow, I might miss something important. And I hate feeling like I am missing something good!

    But, if JGT does it, it will have to be good. Everything he does is stellar.

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  122. y'all are posting faster than I can read and work. Maybe I shouldn't work.

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  123. New blog site will be sweet. Hear me now and believe me later.

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  124. I think football coaches should be required to answer interview questions as if they were pro wrestlers. "Well ya know, brother, Auburn is going to be bringing the PAIN to the SEC this year!"

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  125. Chizik vs Li'l Nicky in a cage match. I'd watch that.

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  126. Norm...
    You're a little girly-man.

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  127. I imagine with their sizes, they would be more of the high flying types of wrasslers. Should be good.

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  128. If Saban was included in that wrestling scenario, he would be representing the "MWF" (Midget Wrestling Federation).

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  129. The paraphrased answers (from Atlanta sports radio) from the other SEC coaches make it sound like they think Saban is a tool and his whining about the agents excessive.

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  130. You can't hide from an old Geezer...I found you and only took 45 minutes.
    I hope the new blogger isn't too complicated or I will stay lost.

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  131. i bet Smitty would whip both of them, then help them up and tell them an uplifting story

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  132. wait... I thought Saban WAS a tool

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  133. Saban would be the Million Dollar Man.

    Everyone has a price.

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  134. if Saban was in pro wrestling, this would be him

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  135. Saban is a solitary HO he pimps for hisself.

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  136. I wonder which smart alec media member voted Vandy to win the east?

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  137. yeah I was only kidding since I don't even have a system right now.

    Do any of the Bham Hotties ever go to Buffalo's to watch games when they are unable to attend in person?

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  138. yeah I was only kidding since I don't even have a system right now.

    Do any of the Bham Hotties ever go to Buffalo's to watch games when they are unable to attend in person?

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  139. my last comment was to scottie.

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  140. what about your next to last comment, ch=B?

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  141. Scottie doesn't live in Birmingham.

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  142. In re Saban and agents ... methinks he doth protest too much.

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  143. There definitely should be some kind of competition between the coaches at media days. I am thinking a punt, pass, and kick Nick Saban's butt competition. Maybe arm wrestling would work too.

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  144. I'm sorry for the mentally challenged. The 1st part of my 1451 post was towards Scottie. The second part of my 1451 post was directed to any of the Bham Hotties.

    The mentally challenged part of this post was directed towards Mr. Google.

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  145. "Mentally challenged" could really apply to a good many of us at one time or another. Well, not me of course, but the rest of you absolutely.

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  146. He may be an All-American and a Butkus Award winner ... and yes, I understand the honor is a prediction ... but I find it hard to believe Donta' Hightower was the 2nd highest vote-getter on the preseason All-SEC team.

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  147. I'm with you on that one Jet. The voters for these honors are idiots sometimes. Give to someone who really contributed last year not to a guy with a lot of potential. That's how you vote for the freshman team.

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  148. I also love the doublespeak from our own crew ...

    CHIZ: "We will not be measured by wins and losses."

    BYNES: "Eight ain't it."

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  149. Jet was voted "Most Likely to Fail Miserably" during our Senior high school year.

    It wasn't an officially recognized category, I nominated him and was the only one to vote for it, but I can state the claim that Jet was voted "Most Likely to Fail Miserably" and not feel guilty about it.

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  150. That's not doublespeak. What they're trying to say is they will be judged only by wins.

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  151. "We will not be measured by wins and losses."

    Is the schedule I have pinned to my wall just for scrimmages? Are these not actually sporting competitions with scores and statistics recorded?

    You bet your sweet bippy you'll be measured by wins and losses.

    Keep Hate Alive.

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  152. The sad thing is that I failed, but I failed to fail miserably.

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  153. I understand what Chiz is getting at by not being judged by wins and loses. It is a philosophical thing. You control how you play. You don't control how the other team plays. So you work to play to your potential. Winning or losing depends upon the other team, too. If you win them all because all the other teams sucked butt, it doesn't mean much. If you lose them all because you sucked butt, well, that means something.

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  154. See? I knew you were a failure.

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  155. Now it's time to say 'goodbye' to all our company...

    I'm going home. I'm performing an emergency inspection on my garage refrigerator and then Hot Wife and I are going out to eat with some friends while F4* annoys some other poor couple.

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  156. Maybe they should treat the SEC like we treat baseball games for some of the leagues you hear of where they don't keep score. "There are no winners or losers in life. We're all winners."

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  158. I nominate Commish for post of the year.

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  159. I don't see much difference between an NCAA coach and an agent, really. Both are making substantial sums off the labor of athletes. There is some debate, however, about who is more deceitful. The former profits off the illusion that the athlete is primarily a student, whereas the latter is far more honest about the fact that he is not.

    Saban is the most appalling example of this dichotomy and biggest hypocrite because he is screams the loudest. Please spare us the righteous indignation, Little Nicky. We all know your only concern is that the agents may interfere with your gravy train.

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  160. Damn typos. @#$!&^ Agents of America Association better get me a secretary that can spell for the press releases.

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  161. I now nominate Commish for post of the year.

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  162. Commish ... I want to know how you got that picture of Norm and me for your avatar.

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  163. CHB, i can deal with you not having a gaming system. i do take issue with your joking about bringing me beer.

    that, my friend, is unforgivable!

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  164. Please forgive me. Maybe if I see you at Auburn this year I will have more.

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  165. Jett, I grew up on Statler & Waldoff. Now they crack my kids up.

    Since we have no fuzzy bear on the HABOTN, I wonder who they would ridicule the most. Hmmmm

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  166. Commish, I am currently behaving like Arnold Horshack (Hand up, yelling, "Ooh, ooh, ooh!").

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  167. How 'bout this guy?

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  168. Today would be the 84th birthday of Auburn's last four sport letterman. Raise your glasses to him during happy hour today.

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  169. welcome back welcome back welcome back.

    I haven't seen that show in a LONG time.

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  170. Statler and Waldorf would not ridicule Erk.

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  171. Erk was a man.

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  172. Scott, S&W are growing restless because the likely subject is silent. I think they just said, "Well, what's he waiting for?? We know he's got nothing else to do then post in this dump."

    Damn, they're cantankerous.

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  173. Did y'all read where Josh Bynes forgot his dress shoes and had to wear flip flops with his suit. I don't know why that strikes me as so funny.

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  174. We need more players named Erk. That is a manly name.

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  175. That was wonderful! Bravo!I loved it.That was great! Well, it was pretty good. Well, It wasn't bad. There were parts that weren't pretty good, though.It could've been a lot better. I didn't really like it. It was pretty terrible. It was bad. It was awful! Boo! Boo!

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  176. Search the interwebs, and find the letter that Erk wrote the the UGA team before the 1980 season.

    Good stuff.

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  177. This is the game plan. We have no alternative plan.

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  178. Paraphrasing S & W for the HABOTN:

    Statler: That comment was awful!
    Waldorf: He posts the same thing over and over again!
    Statler: Boring!
    Waldorf: See you next week?
    Statler: Of course.

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  179. As another terrible Friday puppet hour comes to a close, I would like to thank those that bring all of the flavor of Al.com to the HABOTN. It's a lot less boring with denseness and name calling.

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  180. PF, we even had puppets (well, Muppets). What more do you want?

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  181. Puppet Hour always ends when I arrive.

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  182. Dang it!!! I want football now!!! I am anxious to see if Cam is what some think he will be or if he is the same as our last 5 star QB that was suppose to be able to run. Inquiring minds want to know.

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  183. It's rare that I read a long internet story to its conclusion.

    I read this one all the way through. It's an (anonymous) survey of 20 Division I basketball coaches about their profession. Outstanding stuff.

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  184. I like the eight ain't it motto. Here's hoping next season it won't be seven sucks. This season's expectations seem to keep growing.

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  185. Glad you're home safely, JGT.

    Did you participate in golf yesterday?

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  186. 2.0 cooked up a mean batch of shrimp pad thai from scratch. MMMmmmmm Good!!!

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