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Hey everyone. Thanks for stopping by on a fine Friday; a spooky one. I also want to compliment the HOTTIES for providing so much support, both on the blog and on the Campfire, for our newest Ring of Fire members. Our warm community is what distinguishes us.

SCHEDULE UPDATE: Since Auburn is on the road, that means I'll be holding the traditional "Ask an Auburn Beat Writer" segment tonight. We were doing this before Campfires came along ... but it's basically a Campfire in disguise. Live chat. Questions answered. Etcetera. So come kick it with an Auburn Beat Writer. I'm thinking 10 p.m. CDT.

OK. Here is today's content:

Advantage: Ole Miss
Auburn enjoyed more consistent play out of Kodi Burns last week, but UM's Jevan Snead is a much more refined player. He has a great arm, knows how to use it and can run in a pinch.

Advantage: Ole Miss
It's unclear what Auburn has here. Ben Tate played only sparingly against West Virginia and Brad Lester is struggling with a knee issue. Ole Miss has a decent tailback in Cordera Eason and intriguing elements in Dexter McCluster and Enrique Davis.

Advantage: Ole Miss
Auburn has two playmakers in Rod Smith and Tommy Trott. The Rebels have watched McCluster excel in a variety of roles. Shay Hodge and Mike Wallace are legitimate players as well.

Advantage: Auburn
Ole Miss has the best player here in Michael Oher, but Auburn has plenty of talent. Have the Tigers been good? Not really. Still, I believe this group is on the verge of a breakthrough. It could happen tomorrow.

Advantage: Auburn
This could go either way. Peria Jerry is an outstanding tackle and a lot better than most people realize. With that said, Sen'Derrick Marks and Tez Doolittle are excellent players as well. Throw in Zach Clayton and the Tigers have plenty of brawn.

Advantage: Ole Miss
Auburn's linebackers didn't play well at West Virginia last week, missing tackles with surprising frequency. Ole Miss doesn't have the same amount of depth or talent, but their guys are playing more consistently right now.

Advantage: Auburn
The Tigers suffered some serious busts in the defensive backfield at WVU. Still, this is a talented group. Jerraud Powers says he's better after playing half speed with a hamstring injury last week and Walt McFadden has been a bright spot.

Advantage: Ole Miss
Josh Shene has connected on 12 of his 13 field-goal kicks. Mike Wallace is a great kickoff-return guy. Auburn has the advantage at punter, but the Rebels seem to have a legitimate leg up here.

Advantage: Auburn
Tommy Tuberville has his faults and the program doesn't seem all that healthy right now. Still, this coaching staff has made a lot of correct calls through the years. I like Houston Nutt a lot. He's great as the lovable loser, but the Rebels are a favorite today. Nutt is less effective that way.

Ole Miss
Jevan Snead (No. 4)
6-3, 215, Soph.
Last game: 16-of-31 for 192 yards, 1 TD; 5 rushes for 23 yards (vs. Alabama, 10/18)
Scouting report: Snead, a transfer from Texas, has an outstanding arm. He can throw deep balls with authority. He understands how to alter pace according to situation. The problem is that Snead is highly aware of his raw talent and takes too many risks as a result. He has no problem throwing into double coverage because he considers himself capable of making every throw work. He can be a liability in that sense. Snead isn't a fast runner. He is intuitive in the pocket, though, and can escape pressure. He has some great years ahead of him.

QB Kodi Burns (No. 18)
6-2, 205, Soph.
Last week: 13-of-21 for 111 yards, 1 TD; 15 carries for 82 yards (vs. WVU)
Scouting report: Burns was given a chance to play a full game last week and showed signs of progress. He played particularly well during the first half. Burns escaped from pressure at appropriate times. He made several accurate passes on the run. He also showed a refined ability to run effectively in space. Burns looked like a different player in the second half, though, and seemed to lose confidence. That has been an issue for him. Burns has a very strong arm that allows him to throw accurately beyond 30 yards. His mechanics are inconsistent. That's why he struggles to make simple throws at times. Until he learns to repeat his throwing motion, Burns will be limited.

Walter McFadden (No. 6)
6-0, 177, Jr.
Last week: 2 tackles and 1 interception (vs. WVU)
Scouting report: McFadden is a good example of a player who is more valuable than his statistics. The junior has decent speed, decent acceleration and decent size. What makes McFadden so important is his innate understanding of his position. He understands his responsibilities and handles them. He also thinks along with the quarterback, which puts McFadden in good position for interceptions more often than most defensive backs. McFadden takes pride in being available; injuries never have been an issue.

Auburn offense
Ole Miss is a very powerful team along the line of scrimmage. Auburn ditched its passing schemes last week in favor of a more direct running attack, which yielded significant dividends until West Virginia made adjustments. Are the Tigers trying to re-invent themselves as a power team? If so, they'll have to play with more ferocity along the offensive front today. Kodi Burns is best when given a peripheral role, which is what happened during his first-half renaissance last week. When pressed into a leading role during the second half, Burns was less reliable. Auburn needs to rely on its tailbacks to blaze the trail. If that's going to happen, Brad Lester and Ben Tate need to regain their early-season swagger.

Auburn defense

What in the world has happened here? Auburn now has allowed more than 400 yards in consecutive games, which is a far cry from its early-season pace. The problems seem two fold: Paul Rhoads' one-dimensional approach to fronts and a general discouragement. Unlike Will Muschamp, who spent hours searching for new ways to package the same defensive scheme, Rhoads prefers to perfect a few fronts. The problem is that the Tigers have an established defensive identity now and without much variation to throw off opponents, Auburn is struggling to make it all work. Ole Miss coach Houston Nutt is a good strategist, too. As far as discouragement, the Tigers clearly played at a lower level once the Mountaineers pulled ahead by 10 last week. With the team's offense struggling this badly, falling behind seems like a terminal problem.

Photo credit: Todd Van Emst/Auburn University

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Blogger eddie4au said...

I still say we win despite all the evidence and Facts Jay :)!!! I'm acting like a UGA fan now.

8:53 AM  
Blogger Jay G. Tate said...

Outstanding avatar, Eddie.

8:54 AM  
Blogger AUBigCat said...

A couple of things JG...

Do you have a score prediction?

Do you think that the passing of Amendment 1 next Tuesday would influence AU's decision to pony up the buyout money for CTT?

And ..dont you think you need to have a place in the RoF for us long time friends of the program who dont get a chance to post much due to work?

8:55 AM  
Blogger Jay G. Tate said...

I don't like score predictions anymore. Gave em up.

Amendment 1? Is that the one where Yuengling becomes the Official Beer of Alabama? (I have no idea what Amendment 1 involves.)

Yes, we should have a separate designation for long-term HOTTIES. You certainly qualify. I'll ponder this.

9:00 AM  
Blogger Phormerly Phred said...

Excellent Eddie ... "Mr. Prolific Profile Pic Changer Guy"

Jay G ... why did you quit linking your articles?

9:01 AM  
Blogger Jay G. Tate said...

I dunno. Just haven't felt like it. Do you consider that a useful element of the HABOTN?

I can start doing that again.

Not today. I don't write for Fridays any longer.

9:07 AM  
Anonymous klaus_flouride said...


I still question Powers effectiveness. If he's not 100%, I think he is more of a liability back there. He was obviously not full speed against WV and was tentative on tackling. Earlier in the year he appeared to be Auburn's only "head hunter" on defense and his injury was and is a huge blow to the defense.

9:14 AM  
Blogger WarEagleRK said...

That avatar looks familiar Eddie

9:16 AM  
Blogger Phormerly Phred said...

It was to some degree, in that I didn't have to walk outside and pick up the paper! :-)

Not a big deal though. Just was curious.

9:16 AM  
Blogger Jay G. Tate said...

Powers isn't 100%.

9:20 AM  
Blogger WarEagleRK said...

I'm more concerned about Etheridge on any pass that isn't a go route down the sideline than Powers.

Anything where the receiver has to cut or cross he's always way behind them.

9:21 AM  
Blogger Mark said...

Jay, I am curious, why did you give up predictions? I think this is very important as far as games go. Lose it and we are staring 5-7 in the face. Win it and we could pull off a UGA or UA upset with the added confidence.

9:21 AM  
Blogger Mark said...

If we hope to have a chance against UGA and UA, I believe we need to rest Powers. He is not getting any better while he plays.

9:23 AM  
Blogger the biscuitator said...

so last night when you said that it doesn't look good for le tigres you meant that today you would shatter all hope and faith that i had for the game tomorrow...

9:24 AM  
Blogger Cory said...

Our lack of speed at safety concers me against Ole Miss. Snead has the kind of arm that can burn us all day. I think the key will be how much pressure the D Line can bring. Here's to Marks, Doolittle, AC and Goggans having a great game. wde my fellow hotties!

9:27 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Both of our safeties have been playing out of position a lot int he last few games. I chalk that up to youthful exuberance (both are Sophs.) more than anything. I hope it is them just trying to make a play and missing and not like the "Mario Fannin Syndrome" where they have no idea about the other side adjusting.

9:28 AM  
Blogger WDEwg said...

Do you by chance keep a record of how things turn out versus your predictions? In other words, what's your long-term success rate at prognostication.

In other other words, should I find the nearest bridge now, or wait til Sat around 3?

9:30 AM  
Blogger Jay G. Tate said...

Well, I have to give a score for Jeffrey Lee's thing over at I picked Auburn, 23-20.

How's that for a quick change of heart?

9:33 AM  
Blogger Jay G. Tate said...

wdewg: I don't keep track of anything. No.

I'm 4-4 this season with my picks.

9:34 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm not normally a pessimist, but in addition to the numerous problems that we can't seem to fix...Ole Myth just matches up to beat us. Similar talent right now but has better matchups where it counts.

In order for AU to win....Kodi will need to roll out to pass/run and we must get/hit WRs open deep. This will open up some running game. This is a lot to expect from Kodi and the WRs that I have seen play so far.

We will get some pressure Snead, but not enough. Our walking wounded DBs will have to find a way.

9:39 AM  
Blogger WDEwg said...

Not trying to be a jerk- -just hoping that your well thought out analysis (clearly giving Ole Miss alot of advantage on paper) is sometimes wrong!

9:40 AM  
Blogger Just Win AU said...

Does Rhoads not believe in blitzing much? How many sacks does the defense have this year? I think getting pressure on the QB is going to be a big key to this game and the Bama game.

9:41 AM  
Anonymous hip-hopanonymous said...

I am hoping AU wins, but dont see anything pointing to that actually happening. Maybe this is the week where they start to put SOMETHING together, but until I see proof there's not much reason in thinking we can win.

9:46 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Interesting that you have Smith and Trott listed as playmakers for AU. I think that explains why defenses have NO fear of getting beat deep and keep so many people up front. Maybe it is not this simple but couldn't AU at least attempt some deep passes or is the blocking so bad they don't think the play would have time to develop?

9:48 AM  
Blogger scottie b in tennessee said...

hmmm, that's odd JG, i'm 4-4 too! u copying my picks???

9:48 AM  
Anonymous patdyeswildturkey said...

Subject: Mike McNeil

Living in Mobile, I saw the guy play. He was highly coveted due to his size. He looks like Nick Cannon, yes, Mariah Careys husband, and he hit like Mariah as well. The guy has good speed to come up and help with the run, even though he doesnt hit hard. But as a safety, man he has been out of position all season long. Burnt city, toast..en fuego, help me out here..thoughts?

9:51 AM  
Blogger Jay G. Tate said...

McNeil -- not a head-hunter. This is true.

Also true is that Auburn doesn't blitz very often; far less often than when Muschamp was in control.

9:57 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

PDWT, as I posted before "both of our safeties have been playing out of position a lot int he last few games."

MM and ZE need to have a good game in order for the defense to work well against Sneed and Ole Miss.

9:58 AM  
Anonymous patdyeswildturkey said...

My game prediction - I used to be right on, but this year you cant tell. If you say you know then you are lying. Why? Because everytime we get ahead we lose in the 2nd half, so even if we are up 14 points in the 1st qtr I will feel like we are gonna lose, why? because it has happened all season. God forbid we get behind, then I know we are in trouble because our offense has shown it cant produce alot of points.

9:59 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Is the blitzing a scheme thing Jay, or is it a personnel thing?

9:59 AM  
Blogger James in B'ham said...

Jay G., I liked the links to the articles. Better than anything I will read in the fish wrapper here in the ham.

I'm trying to be optimistic about tomorrow. However, Nutt always seems to have CTTs number, and I don't think that bodes well for Auburn.

10:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You talking about the Bamaham News, James?

10:01 AM  
Blogger eddie4au said...

We definitely need Powers back healthy. I belive he is a big time leader on defense. Why is everyone here 4-4 this year. I plan on being 5-4, Auburn 24-17.

10:02 AM  
Blogger WarEagleRK said...

Did Pitt blitz a lot when Rhodes was there?

I never really watched them.

I've been down on McNeil & Ethridge all year.

10:02 AM  
Blogger James in B'ham said...

Yes Mr. S.

It used to be tolerable but now it's just disappointing to read. Plus, I have a vendetta against, so I try not to visit that site unless absolutely "necessary".

After PM's retirement, Jay G. has the only newspaper stuff worth reading.

10:05 AM  
Blogger WarEagleRK said...

I occasionally still go to to check out what Goldberg has to say...and sometimes to read Finebaum's article.

10:07 AM  
Anonymous patdyeswildturkey said...

The defense I know got worn out. I think injuries and depth have killed us this year. In the beginning I did not think much of it because on defense we were playing so well, but now it is clear, we need to be two deep to make it. Some teams go injury free all year, this just hasnt been the case for Auburn this year.

10:08 AM  
Anonymous patdyeswildturkey said...

The defense I know got worn out. I think injuries and depth have killed us this year. In the beginning I did not think much of it because on defense we were playing so well, but now it is clear, we need to be two deep to make it. Some teams go injury free all year, this just hasnt been the case for Auburn this year.

10:08 AM  
Blogger eddie4au said...

Let's see if we can sum up this week on HABOTN:

Steve- Border line suicidal

Mr. Senstivie- Sorry he is picking against AU.

Monica- Devestated and hating life in WV this week but loving the Roundtable.

RK- Jay, when you announcing the Coaching Change?

Scottie- Where's the Beer? It's beer thirty.

Phormaly Phred- How's it hanging mon.

biscuitator- 111111111

Cobra Commander- Working on the next Cletus T Judd album.

James- No hope only doom.

Michael- When is the next Jan Terri video coming out?

What have I missed?

10:10 AM  
Blogger James in B'ham said...

That a darn good summation there Eddie. HABOTN in capsule form!

10:11 AM  
Blogger Caleb Rotton said...

Hey Jay,

I am back after a long absence of not posting. I am truly sorry for not keeping up my responsibilities as a HOTTIE. I have one question.
What kind of game is Kodi going to need to have to get the Tigers a win? Above average? Excellent? Game of his life? We are to the point where we are living(and dying) by Kodi Burns play. I think he will eventually be an above average player for us, but he's not there yet.

Also, are any HOTTIES making it to the game? I am leaving today for Memphis then to Oxford in the morning. I couldn't pass up a trip to the Grove while still at AU...

10:16 AM  
Anonymous patdyeswildturkey said...

Beer? I know I cant wait to see the look on the old lady's face at the conveinence store when I roll in there at 8:00 a.m. tommorow to get loaded up with beer for the game, What else is needed? some mixture of dips, wings, mmmmm, .....lets see a priest, lukcy horse shoe, lucky penny, holy water, rally hat, ..I will defnitely have to watch Auburn decade of the 80's dvd to get pumped up. Something about the slow motion video clips and guitar riffs that get me pumped.

Any other suggestions..?

10:17 AM  
Blogger eddie4au said...

I love it pdwt- I've started carrying a buckeye since its not working for Ohio State this year.

10:20 AM  
Blogger James in B'ham said...


I like the Decade of the 80's DVD idea. Think I'll watch some of that myself this evening. Maybe throw in the 2004 DVD as well.

I also like the priest idea.

10:21 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Good summary Eddie.

10:21 AM  
Blogger scottie b in tennessee said...

so i'm being remembered as an alcoholic this week, eh? my wife's gonna love that.

speaking of beer, i tried New Belgium's 'Mothership Wit' last nite. i wasn't impressed. i usually love orange/citrus stuff but the hint of orange in it wasn't that great. the Fat Tire is the way to go there. that's a good beverage.

10:22 AM  
Blogger Just Win AU said...

Caleb, I'll be there. Leaving this afaternoon for Tupelo and then heading over to Oxford in the AM. Have a safe trip!

10:23 AM  
Anonymous patdyeswildturkey said...

My wife and I are very superstitious, we were certain shirts to the games, if we are home and auburn scores, etc. or does something good we make the other person stay in the other room, or not change what they are doing, its bad we have to watch the auburn game alone or with other "true" auburn fans, I go to church on sundays, but auburn games make me spew obscenties, like the kid in the christmas story.

10:23 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Caleb, I don't know if we can expect that from Kodi. At this point, he's running parts of 2 or 3 offenses so just managing that is task.

If we can figure out how to adjust to "phase 2" on offense and play a complete game, winning won't be totally on the defense's shoulders.

Not sure that can be done in mid/late season though.

10:25 AM  
Blogger Jay G. Tate said...

re: Not blitzing

That's how Rhoads operates. He likes "base."

10:25 AM  
Blogger Jay G. Tate said...

Scottie -- so "fat tire" is a citrusy beer a la Blue Moon?

10:26 AM  
Anonymous patdyeswildturkey said...

When Kodi runs or throws it, I have like a gasping affect, because I know it could be beautiful or horrendous..

10:27 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yeah it looks we try to play a lot of Cover 2 but we get out of position if the play takes longer than 4 seconds to develop down the field.

We have team speed on defense. I'm curious as to why crossing routes have been so hard for the defense to stop this season.

10:27 AM  
Blogger Just Win AU said...

So JGT, are you saying Rhodes is vanilla?

10:27 AM  
Blogger eddie4au said...

Base defense is good if you don't get out of position like we have the last couple of weeks.

10:27 AM  
Blogger eddie4au said...

Not Scottie, but "Fat Tire" is not citrusy.

10:28 AM  
Blogger Jay G. Tate said...

French Vanilla.

That's what he always has been. It's not like he switched recently. He aims for fundamentally sound.

Muschamp aimed for offensive confusion.

10:28 AM  
Blogger Jay G. Tate said...

I gotta go handle some biz, so I'll be away from the blog for a bit.

I'll definitely be kicking it with the Roundtable guys this afternoon on WMSP. Check that out.

I know most of you do.

Just in case a few weren't ...

10:29 AM  
Blogger Jay G. Tate said...

Then ... on to Tupelo!

10:30 AM  
Blogger WarEagleRK said...

Offensive confusion huh?

That sounds familiar.

10:32 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hopefully Auburn will run a little play action this week. There really realy really needs to be a little variation. I mean nearly everytime Auburn's lineman go in a three-point stance the Tigers run, and everytime they stand in a two-point they pass. It can't be that difficult for the opposing defenses to see that.

10:32 AM  
Blogger eddie4au said...

RK- Muschamp learned under two of the best at confusing the offenses:

Saban & Oliver.

10:33 AM  
Blogger scottie b in tennessee said...

no, FAT TIRE has a good dark taste which i LOVE.

the MOTHERSHIP WIT had a funky citrus flavor that i didn't care for. i love me some Blue Moon and citrus kinds of stuff. i was suprised i didn't like it.

they are both made by the New Belgium company. maybe that's how my previous post got confusing.

10:34 AM  
Blogger AUnMobile said...

I will hold out out optimisum (sp.?) that we actually play a game completely for 4 quarters. Ole Miss is not all that much more talented, just i think its all about execution and repetition and believing in what works and following through with it and not giving up.
Maybe i am drinking the KoolAid, but i believe in CTT when he says that we are close...we just need to play like our hair is on fire and go out there and "Act like a bunch of Crazed Dogs". Take it to Ole Miss and Hit them in the Mouth and be physical.....

10:42 AM  
Blogger Just Win AU said...

JGT, I like French Vanilla but there's nothing wrong with a little Rocky Road every once in a while.

10:45 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

kmo.....The problem with running play action passes is that you first have to be able to run the ball in order to set up play action. If OM will keep the defense backed up, we can do that. We need to find a way to throw deep to keep them backed up. The rollout is about all I can come up with to move the defense around and create an opening deep.

Hey..I hope all is fixed tommorow and we run the table the rest of the year, but I've already lost enough this year thinking that our talent would overcome.

Someone asked why don't we throw deep? Well.....we do try, but the WRs are covered so well that it would not be advisable. Looking at the film, you see numerous times that the QB looks deep, then either passes short or scrambles. AU fans have complained for 3 years that we don't throw deep. It is not for a lack of calling deep pass plays, its that we seldom have anyone anywhere near open to throw to.

10:47 AM  
Blogger Monica said...

Eddie - You're the best summer-upper ever.

I'm trying to be optimistic, but Mr. S is so on target that his prediction is hanging in the back of my head. I just don't see how there can have been some miraculous even that has made us capable of adjustments and a different look for half time. So, call me hopeful, but not optimistic.

I have a prior engagement so I'll miss most of The Roundtable. This totally bums me out. Maybe I'll catch the second half. Y'all have fun and War Damn Eagle!

10:53 AM  
Blogger michael said...

I hope you have all watched "Get Down Goblin" today in honor of Halloween. Get in the spirit!

11:04 AM  
Blogger WarEagleRK said...

If only we could get a defense with the combined intensity of Rhodes and Muschamp with the scheming of Muschamp & the technique of Rhodes.

11:06 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Saw this good news on Carnell "Cadillac" Williams posted on AUC and wanted to pass it along to the Hotties. READ HERE

Ahh...remember the days when other teams feared Auburn RBs?

11:07 AM  
Blogger Just Win AU said...

Good times Michael...

11:11 AM  
Blogger James in B'ham said...

Good read Mr. S.

I know we all hope the Caddy can find his wheels again and make an impact. The promise he showed in his rookie year is still there I think. Hopefully he can come back ala Ronnie Brown.

Lately I've had more fun watching football on Sunday's because of the influx of IMPACT players AU has in the NFL right now. JC, RB, CR, MM, etc.

11:17 AM  
Blogger Hornet said...

thanks for the link mr.s

the two best AU players of my lifetime sure have had / did have a rough and unlucky go of it in the NFL.

We'll always wonder what could have been with BO and a 10 year career....hope we don't say the same thing about Caddie

11:17 AM  
Blogger the biscuitator said...

Good news all my i button will be fully operational beginning on Monday!

11:31 AM  
Blogger Steve from Columbia said...

I like the link to your articles Jay. I am becoming reliant on this as my major one stop shopping place for information on Auburn. Yea, I still read the news on and visit a few other Auburn bloggers, but this feels like home.

In terms of your breakdown, I tend to disagree with the linebackers and DBs, more so with the DBs. We should have the best set of linebackers, but I can see going with Ole Miss based upon recent performance. As for the DBs, I think we are extremely limited in terms of depth. If we go to a nickle or dime package, we gots trouble.

12:09 PM  
Blogger Steve from Columbia said...

WarEagleRK, I do thing eddie is going for some kind of scarfing avatar award.

Eddie, I really thing the sign should really say "Will coordinate for food".

12:11 PM  
Blogger jim in scranton said...

Mr. S,

I saw this on Cadillac a fews days ago. He's back at practice.

I still get goosebumps watching his 80 yard TD on the 1st play of the 2003 Iron Bowl.

12:12 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Good stuff, Jim.

12:14 PM  
Blogger Steve from Columbia said...

Mark, I don't think we can afford to rest Powers this game, although it would be nice. He shouldn't see the field against UT-M.

Injuries have been an issue all year. I do think we need to play a bit of a balancing act here.

12:15 PM  
Blogger Phormerly Phred said...

Eddie ... it's time to change you pic.

You know I'm just messin' with you right?

12:16 PM  
Blogger Steve from Columbia said...

the biscuitator, with Tuberville there is always hope. It may be hope for the other team, but there is always hope.

Ideally I think we see a Pat Dye offense tomorrow that hogs the ball and shortens the game. If that happens, we have a decent shot.

12:17 PM  
Blogger Phormerly Phred said...

"Mr. Avitar Scarfing Blog Poster Guy"

12:17 PM  
Blogger Steve from Columbia said...

the biscuitator, with Tuberville there is always hope. It may be hope for the other team, but there is always hope.

Ideally I think we see a Pat Dye offense tomorrow that hogs the ball and shortens the game. If that happens, we have a decent shot.

12:17 PM  
Blogger War Eagle Girl said...

Out of town yesterday on business and could only listen to Finebaum.....ugh....couldn't wait to get back to work to listen to Roundtable and read the blog.....that's sad!

12:17 PM  
Blogger Steve from Columbia said...

Mr. Sensiblem bringing up the "Mario Fannin Syndome" isn't good. That was one of the most disappointing aspects of the last game. When we say we are running very few plays, only the ones we run well, and we can't run that right, well, just shoot me.

12:20 PM  
Blogger Steve from Columbia said...

WDEwg, while having a bring handy isn't a bad idea, I wouldn't give up the ship yet. Don't give up the ship, just stand near the lifeboats.

Jay, based upon your breakdown, your prediction appears to be heart based. Auburn 23, Ole Miss 20 seems to imply that either we score two field goals (a miracle occurs) or we score a safety. I am betting on the safety.

12:24 PM  
Blogger WDEwg said...

PDW-- you are like me. You're not superstitious, just a little stitious.

I alternate hats for D and O, and then switch them up if one isn't working. Same goes for seats in the den (for away games). Much more complicated for home games- -as I am confined to just one bench sticker.

12:29 PM  
Blogger WDEwg said...

Another question. Do you all remember us putting a receiver in motion pre-snap, he entire season? The only shift I've ever seen us make from the spread is after the meercat look, the RB switches from one side of the QB to the other. WOW! That's alot of shifting to confuse the Defense. I'm sure the Mike LB is saying "hmm. I've got the TB. Wait they shifted. Nope, still got him"

12:32 PM  
Blogger WarEagleRK said...

I used to be very superstitous where everything had to be a certain way...including listening to the Who on Friday's and Springsteen on Saturday on the way to the game. I wore the same All Auburn/All Orange shirt, same cap same everything every Saturday during football season. I even walked the same way from the car to the stadium. That was my ritual during the 2004 season and I did it all the way until the Arkansas game in 2006 and at that point I realized what I did really didn't matter. So I just go with whatever.

12:33 PM  
Blogger WDEwg said...

No, RK, I'm going to have to disagree with you. I said "War Eagle" to a co-worker each game day week on Friday at 4:30PM. And he would say "Yeah. Let's get another one". We did it the entire season, even when the other was out of the office.

So, we totally perserved the season and brought it home!

12:38 PM  
Blogger WDEwg said...

Not jumping ship. Could never do that. Just ready to have a non-nauseous weekend once and a while.

another question. Where is this "roundtable" you all refer to?

12:38 PM  
Blogger Steve from Columbia said...

hoopie, I don't think we necessarily need to hit the deep ball, but some mid range passing over the middle on crossing routes would be nice. I would also like to see more of an option attack from the spread formation.

Just Win AU, I think the key to the Bama game will be simple. Control the clock and slow down the Bama rushing attack. They are good enough where they can run against most teams when the other team knows they are going to run.

patdyeswildturkey, you bring up an interesting point and one of my more bizarre thoughts. We might actually end up better if we are behind early and the offense has to pull off one of those got to drives. I really think that Kodi needs to win some confidence from the other offensive players.

Mr. Sensible, I think the lack of blitzing is more of a scheme thing with Rhodes. He is less of a risk taker and more of a fundamentals guy. He wants to limit the YACs and make the offense execute more plays without a mistake. He has proven that can work. It is just a different philosophy than Muschamp's.

James in B'hamm Etheridge seems to be pretty good against the run. As for McNeil, his hitting ability disappoints me.

12:39 PM  
Blogger Kristina said...

"but some mid range passing over the middle on crossing routes would be nice."

Yes! Yes! Yes!

"We might actually end up better if we are behind early and the offense has to pull off one of those got to drives. "

Mmmmm...I would agree if this was last year's team. Seems like Cox, etc played better when we were behind and there were less than 2 minutes left. Not sure I've seen this team has the attitude to come from behind and then the execution to pull it off even if they did.

If Kodi has a great game, I will be so teed off about the whole Chris Todd thing. But maybe he will stink it up and I won't have to think about what might have been had he been the guy from the beginning and had had cupcakes to play at first to get his confidence up.

12:46 PM  
Blogger War Eagle Girl said...

I can't actually sit down at home and watch a game....especially not with anyone else. I am tired of pacing, wondering when it is going to go wrong in the second half. I have to listen to the radio while watching TV. So I know what is going to happen before I see it.

12:47 PM  
Anonymous BinOBA said...

I've worked in microbreweries the past 8 years before moving back to alabama from pennsylvania. Fat tire is a fine swill and is not citrusy. I can't believe alabama's prohibition laws with alcohol % and the such. I'm from here and proud to be from here but can also say some of the most backward schitt in the world happens here, I.E. You can't buy dogfish head here, but if you go to college where the judge went to college and you get a dui, it's all good. Really makes me sad and want to move again sometimes, the beer, not the stabler thing, i guess once someones kid has been killed by him we'll finally wake up. Sorry boutthe rant, had to drive to Florida to do my beer shoppin this mornin.

12:48 PM  
Anonymous BinOA said...

I hear ya war eagle girl, i don't like for folks to hear my rants at the tv either

12:49 PM  
Blogger scott from tucson said...

i'm working on a theory, here. several games ago, fulmer, after a loss, said something to the effect of "we didn't just catch dumb, we can coach." what if they really did catch dumb and we caught it from them? how do teams fare the week after they play tennessee?

12:54 PM  
Blogger War Eagle Girl said...

JGT is fixin' to be on the roundtable....probably will give a shout to the HOTTIES

12:57 PM  
Blogger WarEagleRK said...

We weren't playing well before we played can't place the blame there.

12:59 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


For those who need it...

1:01 PM  
Blogger Dear Leader said...

jg - i like your links...

Why do you not write fro Fridays anymore?

Auburn takes Ole Piss to the woodshed tommorrow.

1:05 PM  
Blogger Dear Leader said...

Most honorable JGT - keep up the links.

Why do you not write for Fridays anymore?

AU takes Ole Piss to the woodshed Saturday.

1:07 PM  
Blogger Steve from Columbia said...

eddie4aum, I wouldn't call it suicidal. I just think we are in a crucial year in terms of the future of the Auburn program. I do believe Tuberville made the right choice to go with the spread, but we have to find an OC that can make it work and Tuberville has to let the OC do his job.

Caleb Rotton, I am off the opinion that the more yards Burns has rushing, the more trouble we are in. We have to have more playmakers on offense.

the biscuitator, congrats on the I button. Ironically, it will be better on my eyes.

WarEagleRK, don't underestimate the value of the adjustments we as fans can make. I have been considering this myself and coming up with a different strategy. It all keys off of choice of pizza toppings.

1:11 PM  
Blogger WDEwg said...

Agree on inverse relationship between Burns' rushing yards and O production. Don't know whether it is because it means the Oline play is bad, or maybe because the WR's arent' getting open. Either way, I'd rather us be throwing it intermediate-ly down the field.

1:16 PM  
Blogger Steve from Columbia said...

I think we have to look at what we have learned from this season. I will not get excited if we are up by 10 or 14 at halftime. I think around 28 might be a comfortable lead.

I wonder what halftime adjustments we have been making. I do think we need to make adjustments at halftime even if things are going well. Go to the backup plan regardless, at least on offense.

1:21 PM  
Blogger WDEwg said...

Agreed. We should absolutely make changes coming out in the second half (not trick plays), just change up formations, or what we are running. Then, if that stalls, we can go back to what we were doing and try that.

1:24 PM  
Blogger WDEwg said...

I beat this horse last week, but thought I'd bring up again.

Somebody pointed out that Burns played well in the second half, but seemed to lose confidence and be ineffective in the 2nd half.

I'll throw out there again, could it be from the total dog cussing he got from CTT after his shoe string throw to Trott on 3rd down after the successful onside kick? A play that i believe wasn't going to get us a 1st down, even if completed?

Thought that was unnecessary for CTT to go nuts on him right there, and might have damaged his confidence.

For those that would say "well, he's got to be able to take that and not be affected. Normally, I'd say 'yes'-- but Burns has been jerked around his entire time at AU. I think right now the coaches should be looking to build him up. Feel free to rip him when he is a 2nd or 3rd year starter down the road.

just my 2 cents

1:28 PM  
Blogger Steve from Columbia said...

WDEwgm, I have wondered about that play too. It may be that Tuberville was upset about something different. I don't think the pass was an issue. We weren't getting a first down with it and it didn't look like Burns could scramble for it. Perhaps there was another receiver open that I didn't see. Regardless, it didn't look like Burns has a lot of time to make a decision. Tuberville should have probably laid off him there.

1:31 PM  
Blogger WDEwg said...

Yeah, I just had flash backs to certain times even under Petrino where it looked like Campbell's shoulder's just slumped after a verbal lashing.

Guess it can work- -just don't understand it sometimes (or really like that approach).

1:36 PM  
Blogger michael said...

Yeah, Kodi's fragile man. Very fragile.

1:38 PM  
Blogger WDEwg said...

Can you blame him though? He comes in against Miss State last year- -gives us a spark, gets labeled as only a runner (despite breaking prep records in PASSING in Arky). Then plays well in Peach Bowl-- and then is only given a handful of plays and sits behind a guy with a noodle arm? Not to mention playing in 3 different Offensive philosophies in one year, and a firing. I'd be mentally fragile too.

1:45 PM  
Anonymous jdinmacon said...

I found the solution to all of AU's problems. Tubs can travel back in time and not hire Franklin!! It's perfect! Just go to this website!

I think I saw a link for the Tony Franklin System somewhere on there too....

1:46 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why did Jay G. get bumped for the trivia ditzes?

1:46 PM  
Blogger WDEwg said...

Any nuggets from those listening to Roundtable? if it isn't on XM, I can't get it.

1:46 PM  
Blogger WDEwg said...

Guess that explains it, Mr. Sens

1:47 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

He was on. Basically saying (and defending) the stuff about the offense from the blog earlier this week.

They went to break and came back with the giggle brigade.

1:48 PM  
Blogger WDEwg said...

What was he defending? The part about nobody owns the offense and the buritto plus a taco doesn't equal an enchilada?

1:51 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Jay G. must have unleashed the Banhammer because the roundtable feed went away and was replaced by ESPNRadio feed.

1:51 PM  
Blogger WDEwg said...

Giggle brigade is pretty funny

1:51 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yeah, Doug was arguing that the asst. coaches should know enough just from being around it all.

1:52 PM  
Blogger WDEwg said...

I thought that was the reason CTF got fired-- cause they never learned it.

The one comment CTT made after UT game-- about how the asst coaches were trying to keep up, but "it keeps changing from week to week"

1:54 PM  
Blogger WarEagleRK said...


Burns looked good when he first came in against Miss State last year, but then threw a horrible interception. That interception set up the game winning TD.


The trivia girls sounded like 20 year olds holding beer acting like they were drunk at a party just to fit in.

Then the show died.

1:54 PM  
Blogger Monica said...

The Roundtable needs to lose that segment or get some sports chicks with less giggle and more brains.

1:55 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Mercifully, RK.

1:55 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Monica should be on the trivia segment

1:56 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Doug, I know you read this. Put Monica on the air

1:57 PM  
Blogger WDEwg said...

RK-Blocked that throw from memory. That explains it.

Leaving now to beat halloween traffic.

War Eagle everybody. I'll be listening on XM from the road tomorrow.

Let's bring home a win.

1:59 PM  
Blogger Monica said...

The Roundtable can't afford me.

2:04 PM  
Blogger Steve from Columbia said...

Kristina, I don't think Kodi was the best option early in the season. I believe Todd was. As Kodi has gained experience, I do think he is the best option now.

2:09 PM  
Blogger schley said...

Monica is right, lose the trivia girl deal. All giggle, no substance.

Love the show though..

2:13 PM  
Blogger Monica said...

I can't help but think if Kodi had been given more and more consistent playing time earlier we would be in better shape now.

2:13 PM  
Anonymous BinOBA said...

I think burns got chewed out cause he didn't run the ball that play he got chewed out on. I like Kodi but if that shakes his confidence he needs to be at jones county junior college or somewhere like that. I think he'll be a great qb next year. He can do things to get that rolling this year, i'm hoping for improvement each of the last 4 games of the season out of him and the rest of the offensive side of the ball (i'm lookin at you receivers).

2:15 PM  
Blogger eddie4au said...

Steve- I hope this reads better for you.

Phred- It's always time to change the picture. I have to figure out whose pic to go after next.

2:16 PM  
Blogger Steve from Columbia said...

For the Todd bashers with the noodle arm comments, he was our best option early. He did a good job of making smart decisions with a weak arm. As the season progressed, the arm degressed. Fortunately, Burns has learned to make better decisions.

If you would like to bash Todd, bash him on his ego and not being able to come in and contribute from the bench. That is my issue with Todd, not his arm.

Ken Stabler had a weak arm, though ugly passes, but made plays. Early on Todd was able to do that to some extent, but only if he was the man. If he came off the bench, he needed about a quarter of warmup time.

2:18 PM  
Blogger Monica said...

Phred is at Salsarita's enjoying a meal with Mr. and Mrs. Jay G. and the Roundtable gang. I'm jealous.

2:18 PM  
Blogger Steve from Columbia said...

Hahaha, eddie4au, that is wonderful:)

2:19 PM  
Blogger Monica said...

I don't think saying Todd has a weak arm is bashing him. It's just a fact. Injury induced or otherwise, he just flat out has a weak arm.

2:20 PM  
Blogger WarEagleRK said...

They play that Kodi got chewed out on during the WVU game was because he threw the ball underneath to either a back or the TE on a 3rd and long, when 5 yards behind the guy he threw it to was a wide open WR for the 1st down.

2:20 PM  
Blogger Monica said...

LOL @ Eddie's pic. I'd vote for you as play caller, Eddie.

2:21 PM  
Blogger Steve from Columbia said...

WarEagleRK, thanks. I didn't see the open receiver, and apparently Kodi didn't either.

2:22 PM  
Blogger Cory said...

Kodi got chewed out that play because he had a WR streaking down the middle wide open. That's the reason Tubs looked at him and said "throw the damn ball down the field".

2:22 PM  
Blogger WarEagleRK said...


Stabler was deadly accurate and with the Raiders threw a pretty good deep ball.

I know that wasn't your intent, but you can't compare Chris Todd to Ken Stabler...unless Todd has some other habits other than slow moving semi-spirals.

2:23 PM  
Blogger Steve from Columbia said...

Don't wan't me as the play caller? I would install the most innovative offense of this decade, the Jumbo package. Run left, run right, run up the middle, punt. I think we could perfect it in a week.

2:24 PM  
Blogger Steve from Columbia said...

While Stabler was on targets, he was known to throw the most accurate lame duck in college football.

2:25 PM  
Blogger Kristina said...

Missed the roundtable. Halloween Parties to attend...

I agree that Kodi would not have been the best option IF Todd had been 100%. Todd was clearly not 100% though so Kodi should have been put in there so that he could get the experience he needed against lesser teams to become the best option period 100% Todd or not.

I was a Todd supporter at the beginning but the kid's arm just didn't have it anymore. I know jack about football really, but even I could tell.

2:28 PM  
Blogger War Eagle Girl said...

missed the end of roundtable....something about work!
the trivia girls are an embarassement to football lovers...was is it about southern men and the gigglers? (or is that jigglers?)

2:28 PM  
Blogger coosa said...

>>>I'll throw out there again, could it be from the total dog cussing he got from CTT after his shoe string throw to Trott on 3rd down after the successful onside kick? A play that i believe wasn't going to get us a 1st down, even if completed?<<<

Good observation, wdewg, that did seem excessive and would probably have caused a lot of kids to sull up after it.

I was listening to the AU radio team with the sound off on the tv - a much saner way to watch and AU game than listening to the tv morons and bammer lovers. Stan White said it was all about the fact that a WR was wide open 20 yds down field and Cody never looked at him. You couldn't see the WR on the tv screen, and its hard for me to believe that one of ours was wide open, but anyway that's what Stan said.

But I don't think Tubs is helping things by chewing out players in such a public fashion.

Good news for AU - I just found out that I have to go to a funeral at 2 pm tomorrow, which means I'll miss the 2nd half. In nearly 50 years of following AU football, I've either been to the game, watched on tv, or at least listened on the radio to all but 3 of them. Auburn easily won all 3. The trend continues tomorrow.

I just hope that nobody tells me anything about the game while I'm at the funeral and I can get back home and hit the play button without knowing what's happened.

2:29 PM  
Blogger eddie4au said...

Happy Halloween all. I'm off to get my daughters and going to a friends house. I wish all of you a safe and enjoyable night. I will catch back up and respond when I have more time.

Take Care.

I hope my pic does not come true.

2:29 PM  
Blogger Steve from Columbia said...

Todd started dropping off after the first 3 games. I agree they needed to get Kodi some playing time every game. It would have helped both Kodi and Todd.

2:30 PM  
Blogger Kristina said...

Ahhhh, Eddie another avatar. This one makes me sad...

2:39 PM  
Blogger WarEagleRK said...

No offense Steve, but I thought Todd's arm was at best average and mostly below average in games 1-3.

2:42 PM  
Blogger Monica said...

Finebaum just agreed with a caller who said he "broke" the "jetgate" story. I thought that was our own Jay G.

2:45 PM  
Blogger the biscuitator said...

JD made an appearance on the roundtable today as well. just wondering why Jay G didn't take JD's lead and do some serious hatin'

2:46 PM  
Blogger WarEagleRK said...

Finebaum was pretty instrumental at getting jetgate instant publicity as he was on the air at the time it was all coming out.

2:48 PM  
Blogger Steve from Columbia said...

WarEagleRK, that is just the point. It wasn't his arm strength that is the reason he was the best choice. It was his decision making. After about the 3rd game, he didn't have any arm left.

By the way folks, earlier in the season we mentioned a game that might be the worst Auburn had ever played. Some speculated it was against Georgia Tech. Suddenly I remembered a game against Nutt and Arkansas when they rushed for something like 600 yards against us. Well, maybe it wasn't 600, but over 400 I believe. I think it was when Jones was their QB. That was the worst performance I can recall from an Auburn defense.

2:49 PM  
Blogger Monica said...

Gottcha. Thanks, RK.

2:49 PM  
Blogger WarEagleRK said...


I agree as far as play calling, Todd was the best option early in the year.

That was the 2002 Arkansas game...the bad thing about that game was, we were leading until 2 mins to go before the half and Duval had punt blocked that set up a score...that was right after Fred Talley had an 80 yard TD run, both in the last min and a half to take a 17-10 lead to being down 24-17.

We came out in the 2nd half and didn't do anything.

It was after that game the infamous "high school offense" quote from Tub about Campbell was stated.

2:54 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Matt Jones who went on to a stellar NFL career as a WR for Jacksonville and as a hobby, cuts cocaine in his car with a credit card.

2:54 PM  
Blogger WarEagleRK said...

That 2002 game we were so focused on stopping Matt Jones that we forgot to stop held him to negative yards rushing, but gave up 240 yards to Talley...then Jones finally busted one for about 80 with just a couple of mins to go once we had completely given up.

That was also the game where Dansby & Thomas both had their draft stock fall because they couldn't make a tackle and started yelling at their teammates during the game instead of tetting the team lined up.

2:58 PM  
Blogger Steve from Columbia said...

WarEagleRK, that was the game and I believe it is the most frustrated I have ever been watching an Auburn game.

As for Todd, he reached the point where he couldn't get the ball where he wanted. At that point, it didn't matter that he knew where the ball needed to go.

What frustrated me about him is I think his play after they let Kodi run a series dropped off considerably. I am not sure if he was trying to do too much to win the job, but all he had to really do was keep making smart decisions. He didn't do that.

I think that was the biggest frustration at the beginning of the season because it was obvious Kodi had the most potential, but his decision making just wasn't there. Now that he seems to be making a better choice of when to run, he seems much improved. He is setting in the pocket and firing the ball.

Against MSU last season I knew would were going to loose when they kept Kodi in the entire time. He was a great change of pace, but MSU isn't the team to be predictable against. They always tend to have a solid defense, particularly against the run.

3:01 PM  
Blogger michael said...

More about tubs chewing out Burns: it probably wasn't wise, but when you see someone make a mental error that could cost you your job, you might be spittin mad too. I would rather he didn't do it in such a public way because it looks bad and it probably hurts Kodi's confidence, but if Kodi doesn't want to get chewed out, then he should make the right play. Pretty simple, right?

So in summation: Tubs shouldn't have flipped out like that, but I would probably do the same thing in those circumstances, and I think a lot of us would.

3:04 PM  
Blogger WarEagleRK said...

MSU the problem was the turnovers. Fannin had a fumble, Cox threw two Int's, Burns another one. Burns also had a fumble as well. So 5 total turnovers. Fannin's was huge as it was around the 15.

Had Cox not had his first pass returned for a TD, we probably win that game going away. However the week before we had 5 turnovers vs South Florida, and I think it got in our heads against State and we couldn't stop the negative momentum.

3:07 PM  
Blogger WarEagleRK said...

Michael, I would have done the same thing.

If the kid is going to play QB, he has to expect something like that to happen when he makes the same mistake over and over. It only gets magnified when it happens at a time when everything seems to be falling down anyway.

3:08 PM  
Blogger Steve from Columbia said...

WarEagleRK, one of those Cox interceptions were his fault. The other was a tipped ball. We should have stuck with him.

3:19 PM  
Blogger Steve from Columbia said...

Hahaha, tim, what does typing have to do with hearing myself talk? And do you have a point?

3:20 PM  
Blogger Kristina said...

Seriously, how often do you see Tubs fly off that way? Rarely. Now, how often do you see him that way with players? Even rarer (is rarer a word?). The only times I see him fired up like that it is usually directed at refs.

It was a tough week. The kid made a dumb play. Tubs got emotional. He usually gives the sad "I'm disappointed in you, son" face while shaking his head. This time he got verbal. Give the guy a break.

I'm surprised that his head hasn't spun around with steam coming out of those big ol' ears of his channeling Linda Blair's devil voice in the Exorcist the way this team has played.

3:20 PM  
Blogger Mark said...

Gee, Bryan Matthews picked OM. Things are not good in Auburnland for that to happen.

C'mon, Bryan. We are running again. This is Auburn Football. Auburn does not lose to Ole Mrs.

3:22 PM  
Blogger Steve from Columbia said...

Kristina, you make a very good point. Tuberville has to be under incredible pressure. He had pressure before firing Franklin and afterwards it just increased.

One of my criticisms of Shula was how he looked panicked and the players pick up on that. Tuberville doesn't usually look panicked, but he did to some degree then.

You also make a good point about the refs. Tuberville going wacko on the refs and Muschamp pulling him back may have won us a game against Florida. I do think it inspired the players.

3:24 PM  
Blogger Kristina said...

Steve, I was actually thinking of the Florida game as I typed that. I totally agree that was a turning point on that game.

3:26 PM  
Blogger the biscuitator said...

Maybe that's what we needed hasn't bryan been picking auburn all year?

3:26 PM  
Blogger Steve from Columbia said...

mark, many seem to be picking Ole Miss, including some people on here. I think we can all agree we have a chance to win the game, but we have to show improvement. If we don't improvement and Ole Miss plays the way they did against Bama, we are in trouble.

3:27 PM  
Blogger Mark said...

Tim: You are right. Tray Blackmon has been the best option all year at quarterback and until our coaching staff gets their head out of their collective rumps, and puts him there, then I think they should have swollen hemmoroids.

just kidding.

3:27 PM  
Blogger Mark said...

Steve, I know. I am just making fun of the homer Bryan MAtthews. He is always picking us to win and preaching that there are few problems. When he comes down from the clouds and notices reality, it just makes news.

3:28 PM  
Blogger michael said...

Let's make this clear: I don't think that the Tim that posted as Tim was the Tim we all know. I mean sure, that original Tim is a grade A moron, but he's no d-bag like the new Tim. Tim, Tim.

Just looking out for your reputation, Tim. But not yours, Tim.

3:29 PM  
Blogger Steve from Columbia said...

Yea, mark, I understand both viewpoints. I am actually one that tends to pick Auburn in every game, but reality has to come into play.

It is one of the things that would have people calling me names on the forums. If you didn't always say Auburn was great and Bama stunk, you were a closet Bama fan. I try to be honest in my opinion, although I obviously have an Auburn bias.

3:32 PM  
Blogger Jay G. Tate said...

I'm glad some of you all were able to hear my segments on WMSP. I kinda bounced early because my lovely wife rolled in. That means it's time to get our eat on. She and Bag and Mrs. Bag all get along well, so it was nice to see both Moons.

As for Finebaum "breaking" Jetgate, he made some veiled references that day. He did NOT make concrete assertions. He did NOT have anyone on the air to discuss what was going on. He did NOT name the people who were on the plane or where they landed or when it happened.

So, yeah, he was all over it.

I wish he had been more direct on the air. Then I wouldn't have been tracking down the pilot and getting him on the phone to give me a string of "no comment" rants.

3:33 PM  
Blogger Steve from Columbia said...

michael, I agree that Tim isn't anonymous Tim. Give him a break though. He may be a recovering user, as I am.

3:33 PM  
Blogger Jay G. Tate said...

Tim's comment has been taken down because it's not in keeping with HABOTN protocol.

If you wanna get nasty, you have dozens of places to get nasty.

We're keeping it clean here.

I've been aiming to make this a registration-only thing anyway. Since almost everyone is registred now, maybe we can disable anonymous comments.

The only reason I haven't done this already is that crudup hasn't registered. I don't like forcing stuff on people -- particularly RoF'ers.

3:37 PM  
Blogger Kristina said...


feel free to take down my response to Tim if you want.

3:39 PM  
Blogger michael said...

I vote against making it registered users only, because then we would lose the invaluable voice of Tim. not a-hole Tim, but you know, Tim. Ahh nevermind, this is getting more confusing than Will Muschamp's defense.

3:42 PM  
Blogger wartiger said...

my curiosity is killin me..what happen with know in a way that will keep it clean?

3:44 PM  
Blogger Kristina said...

Oh we don't need to clean up anything. He was bascially the type where if you don't agree with him then you're stupid. He didnt say anything bad, just not nice.

3:45 PM  
Blogger Steve from Columbia said...

wartiger, I agree. As long as there aren't a lot of people making those types of comments, I think we can handle it as we did here. I would hate to see people turned off from coming here because they had to register and I do value different opinions.

3:50 PM  
Blogger Kristina said...

Yeah, I will just use my "mommy voice" and take care of them ;-)

3:55 PM  
Blogger Steve from Columbia said...

Jay, having some kind of rules of conduct we could reference people to might be helpful. I don't mean a 50 page document that would require me to get my lawyer to review, but something short and to the point. I am not sure how it would be applied.

I think one of the things we have to remember is that new people coming here may be use to a much different forum environment. There may be an adjustment period.

3:55 PM  
Blogger michael said...

For those who missed it, Tim threatened to kill Jan Terri. This sort of blasphemy will get the quick delete button here at HABOTN.

3:56 PM  
Blogger Steve from Columbia said...

Bwahahaha, michael, you crack me up:)

3:57 PM  
Blogger WarEagleRK said...

Well I missed the fireworks from Tim, but not Tim.

Everyone have a happy and safe Halloween. I'm out to go to a Trunk or Treat with my best friend and his son, then me and the wife are going to go somewhere so I'll probably miss the campfire tonight, but I'll catch up with everyone tomorrow...also known as the day it all ends. (Hopefully in reference to the losing streak.)

3:58 PM  
Blogger Mark said...

Herbstreit when asked what he was going to be for Halloween.
"Auburn's offense. There is nothing as morbid and scary as that. It is deader than a zombie."

4:06 PM  
Blogger Mark said...


No mommy voices. I get enough of that from my wife :^)

4:07 PM  
Blogger Kristina said...

Well play nice, Mark, and you don't have to worry. Now sit up staight and eat your vegetables! ;-)

4:10 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Gang, I will be out with the Mrs. tonight. Hope to make Campfire, but if not I will see you all tomorrow on the game posts.

4:12 PM  
Anonymous Griff said...

Jay: You may have provided an update on Philip Pierre Louis XIV, former King of France and current Auburn WR, but I haven't seen one. Next time you get a chance, can you find out how he's progressing? Gracias.

4:13 PM  
Blogger Jay G. Tate said...

I spoke briefly with PPL a few weeks ago. He's in good spirits. He's rehabbing that knee. He was joking about how he can only lift weights with his "good" knee and how his lower body is off-kilter now as a result.

That'll get straightened out this winter.

4:15 PM  
Blogger wartiger said...

why get mad if somebody doesn't agree with you..hell if somebody doesn't agree with me it might be an opprotunity to learn something or just prove how much smarter I am than that person...c'mon fake Tim. This is the only blog that has ever been able to keep me coming back. I'm just not into all that disrespectful bs. As far as registeration goes I don't know about that Jay. I didn't register right off the bat to feel this thing out then I got to "feel the heat" and said hey this is a good place to vent or rejoice with the AU family. So think carefully on the registration idea...

4:17 PM  
Blogger AUTiger3 said...

what time is the campfire tonight? I'm sure its been posted, I just don't want to search through 200 posts.


4:20 PM  
Blogger Jay G. Tate said...

I don't want to make registration necessary. I just cannot stand inappropriate commentary from anonymous posters.

4:21 PM  
Blogger Jay G. Tate said...

Campfire expected to begin at 10, though I'm still in Montgomery filing expense reports ...

4:21 PM  
Blogger wartiger said...

new thread..wheeee here we go!!

4:22 PM  
Blogger Jay G. Tate said...

I started a new thread to avoid the dreaded second page of comments after we cross the 200-post plateau ...

4:24 PM  
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