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Hey everyone. Not much going on right now in public view. After a two-hour practice yesterday -- which was quite physical, so we're told -- the team is resting today before resuming Ole Miss preparations in the morning.

GENERAL THOUGHT: There has been a lot of discussion about why Auburn struggles so badly during the second half. We all know several issues are to blame, of course, but there is one issue that hasn't been discussed. It may be the most important one.

Nobody owns this offense. Nobody has owned it since Al Borges was fired 10 months ago. Tony Franklin rolled in here last December and installed his stuff to spec, but it's clear that what Auburn used against Louisiana-Monroe (and beyond) wasn't Franklin's system. It was an amalgam of different ideas rolled into one corn tortilla and passed off as an enchilada.

It's not an enchilada.

Now that Franklin is gone, this offense truly is a hodgepodge of ideas. Who is responsible for tweaking it once things stop working? Steve Ensminger has been designated to handle that job. It's almost impossible. He showed during the first half at West Virginia that calling plays isn't beyond him. What may be beyond him -- and this staff -- is understanding how to adjust this hodgepodge offense when the other team deciphers the Tigers' initial plan.

I think that was the issue Thursday. Aside from some fourth-quarter let-downs, I saw an Auburn team that was trying to win. Effort wasn't to blame. West Virginia simply adjusted to what Auburn was doing early. Once the initial plan was derailed, Ensminger and the other offensive assistants didn't know how to fix that.

Again, it's not their offense. There are coaches out there, good coaches, who spend their entire careers perfecting a certain scheme so they can counter any adjustments a defense offers. Auburn has a group of people with essentially no familiarity with the scheme they're running.

It's almost doomed to fail. Here's a look at four things that would allow Auburn to avoid terminal offensive failure:
  • Simply overpowering the opponent
  • Playing a defense that doesn't/can't adjust to the initial plan
  • Having playmakers than rise above the chaos
  • Getting lucky

Imagine being a mathematician and taking over a colleague's complex proof, one that consumes 10 pages of computations, at the mid-way point. What do you do? Carry on where she left off? Start over? That's where the Tigers are right now. It's a mess.

INJURY REPORT: Someone asked for a full injury report, which is a difficult thing to do right now. There are a lot of minor injuries that affect players in different ways. Here's what I know:
  • CB Jerraud Powers, left hamstring (not practicing; injury remains an issue)
  • CB Neiko Thorpe, ankle (not practicing)
  • OG Byron Isom, concussion (not practicing, but should be soon)
  • TB Ben Tate, hamstring (practicing, but still in some pain)
  • TB Brad Lester, right knee (practicing, but still in some pain)
  • DE Hot Carter, left ankle (practicing, but still in some pain)
  • TB Mario Fannin, right leg "twist" (practicing)
  • DT Sen'Derrick Marks, unknown (practicing)
  • DT Tez Doolittle, ankle (practicing)
  • QB Chris Todd, shoulder (practicing)
  • LB Tray Blackmon, right wrist (out)


Photo credit: Todd Van Emst/Auburn University

Questions? Comments? Post directly to the blog below or email me at jgtate@gannett.com.

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Blogger EDDIE4AU said...

So pratically we are missing half the team. I guess most people could lose this many players and win.

2:14 PM  
Blogger WDEwg said...

REpost from previous thread:

Back to earlier post concerning injuries. Doesn't it seem like we always have significant injuries to overcome each year? I thought it was the brutal SEC sched, but in a lot of years, it seems we enter SEC play with them, and then they get worse.

2:20 PM  
Blogger Cory said...

Biggest problem on this team right now is the broken confidence. It's been a long time since I've watched an AU team that was playing as if they expected something bad to happen. We need a win in the worst way Sat.

2:21 PM  
Blogger WDEwg said...

Funny how so much of the college game is confidence. Every season, it seems we struggle to get it-- and then once we do (save the UGA game) we are tough to beat. Problem is that we've rung up 1-2 losses at that point, and one of them has been LSU.

2:23 PM  
Blogger Jay G. Tate said...

That's a really long element there, but I think it's worth the 3-minute investment.

2:29 PM  
Blogger EDDIE4AU said...

Wdewg- Confidence is key to any team having success. 2004 is the best example of that. Look what happened after the team came back against LSU.

Question for all- When was the last time in a major game that we played a better 2nd half than first half? I would say Florida 2006. It seems like we have had a lot of problems over the years of making half time adjustments and improving.

2:31 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Jay G.,

That is great insight and I agree. It's hard to own something that 2 other people (who aren't here anymore) put together.

2:32 PM  
Blogger James in B'ham said...

"Who is responsible for tweaking it once things stop working?"

That responsibility starts and stops with CTT.

He can either do it himself (ala Spurrier), but we all know this is a ridiculous thought based on CTTs defensive background.

OR

He can tell one of the assistants, such as CSE, this is now yours, take ownership of it, and make it work if you like being employed. This is also a ridiculous thought based on CTTs loyalty issue with the assistants.

Failure to do either leads to an offensive scheme which is FUBAR.

2:33 PM  
Blogger frizzle said...

Auburn played a good second half against Syracuse back in 2002.

2:34 PM  
Blogger Lovecrafty said...

Excellent point about the offense Jay. I wondered myself if Ensminger or anybody else would have adjustments on their minds once the initial game plan was sniffed out. Guess we now know the answer to that question.

Hopefully we'll be able to place a check by all of the 4 things you mentioned to avoid the EPIC FAIL!

2:35 PM  
Blogger WDEwg said...

Agreed Eddie. I remember us struggling that year on the road early against either Ole Miss or Miss State. Once Campbell completed the long coversion to Taylor, it seemed they started to develop confidence and a swagger.

But every YEAR we do that. we don't hit the ground with confidence and belief in ourselves. It takes us 2-3 (5?) games to establish it. Isn't that coaching?

2:35 PM  
Blogger Monica said...

I agree effort was not the problem. I understand barely anyone else agrees with me.

Jay G. said: Again, it's not their offense. There are coaches out there, good coaches, who spend their entire careers perfecting a certain scheme so they can counter any adjustments a defense offers. Auburn has a group of people with essentially no familiarity with the scheme they're running.

ABSO-FREAKIN-LUTELY! Jay is 100% correct.


Now I want some Mexican food.

2:36 PM  
Blogger WDEwg said...

Maybe we can all hope that Luck will carry this offense through. if we all concentrate really hard, who knows.

2:37 PM  
Blogger WDEwg said...

Taco time

2:37 PM  
Blogger Jay G. Tate said...

I just don't think effort was the problem ... save for the last 8 minutes of the game

2:38 PM  
Blogger Jay G. Tate said...

Tuberville can't fix this, period.

Considering how few coaches out there make thoughtful adjustments week to week, this is the most difficult skill. Not many people know how to do it well.

2:40 PM  
Blogger Jay G. Tate said...

When I say "Tuberville can't fix this," ... I mean that he's a defensive guy. He'll have to rely on other people with more keen offensive knowledge to fix this.

2:41 PM  
Blogger michael said...

It's hard not to give up in a game where your coach gives up. We all knew it was officially over when we punted with around 6 minutes left down two scores. Riverboat scaredy-cat.

2:41 PM  
Blogger Monica said...

What did Bill Oliver say about Saban that has all the bama fans upset?

2:43 PM  
Blogger Jay G. Tate said...

Jan Terri is PISSED about the current state of affairs.

2:43 PM  
Blogger frizzle said...

I believe Ensminger was an offensive coordinator before at other schools. Even though it's not their offense, it's still a form of an offense and he should know a little about making adjustments against a defense. Thoughts on that?

2:43 PM  
Blogger Monica said...

Sorry I'm asking for so much catch up info. This is what I get for trying to have a life away from this blog.

2:44 PM  
Blogger EDDIE4AU said...

What is code for "jan Terri"? I'm out of the loop on this one, but I have seen it repeatedly on this blog.

2:44 PM  
Blogger michael said...

Jan Terri is sick and tired of losing games, and she is sick and tired of losing you tonight, and she is sick and tired of being sick and tired!

2:45 PM  
Blogger AUWade said...

Thanks Jay for the in jury report. There's other guys that I'm pretty sure aren't redshirting but I don't recall them ever seeing the field this year. AJ Greene, Adam Herring, John Douglas and Brent Slusher. Are they just not developed enough to contribute yet or what? Looking at the roster, Douglas is the only real scholarship FB, but hasn't played as far as I can tell. I scratch my head each time I see Tristan Davis lined up at FB.

2:45 PM  
Blogger michael said...

This is Jan Terri:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OE2l6CPna4M

2:46 PM  
Blogger EDDIE4AU said...

Ensminger made great adjustments in 2003 running Petrino's offense even though he wasn't there in 2002. Not having an OC is like not having a pilot but instead you have a couple guys who have played flight simulator on their computer. I actually think you can win more games by not having a HC than you can by not having an OC or DC.

2:47 PM  
Blogger Mark said...

at what point will Auburn fans begin to hope that we lose so that CTT gets fired?

Just stop the righteous indignation before it starts, you know it is a legitimate question.

2:47 PM  
Blogger James in B'ham said...

I agree that CTT can't fix it himself from a knowledge standpoint, thus he has to go with option #2 that I laid out.

So far, CSE has shown that he has the ability to call plays and not make adjustments. Can he figure out the adjustment part? We have 4 more games to see...

2:48 PM  
Blogger Jay G. Tate said...

AJ Greene was moved to OL.

John Douglas played against WVU.

Slush Fund ... I don't know what's going on with him.

Adam Herring has played occasionally. He's a third option at SLB or maybe MLB right now.

2:48 PM  
Blogger Jay G. Tate said...

Jan Terri, bless her heart, may be the least talented musician in history.

2:49 PM  
Blogger Mark said...

We are almost a TD dog to Ole Miss?!?!?!?

Ole Miss?!? How is that even possible?

I know Nutt is there and Enrique had a great run against Alabama; but, seriously almost a TD favorite.

2:49 PM  
Blogger EDDIE4AU said...

Thanks Michael...That's 4 minutes of my life that I will never get back.

2:50 PM  
Blogger Jay G. Tate said...

I watch that Jan Terri video at least once per week. It's infectious.

2:54 PM  
Blogger James in B'ham said...

Well Mark, you get 3 for being at home, so Vegas things they are really 4 points better than us.

Right now, I'd take Ole Miss -7 and be happy.

2:55 PM  
Blogger Mark said...

As we head into this week's game, I expect Enrique to have a good go of it. At least effort wise. However, I think Snead may be the difference. He is going to be Stafford-esque before he leaves.

I think we will play a tough game and score points (running the ball). However, Ole Miss will win in my opinion.

I said last week that I thought the WVU game was the most important of the season. That said, a win this week followed by the slaughter of UT by the Martin could enable us to gain some momentum heading into UGA at home.

2:56 PM  
Blogger EDDIE4AU said...

Well if Jan Terri can have a career, I guess I'm missing my calling. Be looking out for my new single, "Losing Tubs."

2:57 PM  
Anonymous weagle251 said...

Re: somebody that can make adjustments: How about that guy that runs smartfootball.com? He sounds like a guy that knows all about these dang'oled formations and crossing routes and such.

(said with tongue planted firmly in cheek)

2:57 PM  
Blogger michael said...

I find myself singing Jan Terri tunes in my head pretty regularly. So horrible, yet it makes me so happy.

In honor of Halloween, here is another Jan Terri classic: Get Down Goblin.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGOk-2V9Vt4

3:01 PM  
Blogger scottie b in tennessee said...

"Jan Terri is PISSED about the current state of affairs."

i think that is the first time i've laughed all day.

sorry i've been MIA. i had to take a break to recharge the batteries. i'm slowly coming around.

3:02 PM  
Anonymous AWK said...

According to Franklin, Tuberville does/did nothing with the offense. Hence, the only person in charge right now is Ensminger...who is still acting like an assistant coach. No Leadership on offense + a breakdown on defense for whatever reason = failure.

3:03 PM  
Blogger EDDIE4AU said...

Awk- Tubs also said he was going to be involve in the offense when he fired Franklin. I bet he is having imput if I was a betting man.

3:04 PM  
Anonymous Alan said...

Why do you assume the mathematician is a she?

3:05 PM  
Blogger frizzle said...

I can see Ole Miss being a touchdown favorite. It's hard to imagine, but they do have an offense that can score points.

3:14 PM  
Blogger michael said...

I assume the 10 minute lull in conversation is because you are all watching "Get Down Goblin." Well, at least the first 4 minutes of the lull. The other 6 are what psychologists call, "The Jan Terri Recovery Period." Don't worry, it's not permanent.

3:16 PM  
Blogger BinOBA said...

I'd bet my house on ole miss from what i've witnessed this season. The lack of physicality is killing us, this spread bs has run us into the ground, there was no plan to shift our recruiting that direction until it had been decided, Penn state recruited for it for a couple years then switched, Tub has noone to "blame" but himself. I feel the injuries are due to not being physical in practice. I heard a bunch of bs about fights and how the offense was whippin the defense, what a load of crap,everyone is whippin our defense, and our offense. Bunch of lip service from CTT has made us a punchline this year, that sort of negligence and failure would cost me my job no matter what i had raked in 9 yrs prior. If i thought we were gonna suck, i'd have said it, not whistled by the graveyard and "hoped", sorry bout the rant, but being plain ol' sorry doesn't sit well with me, nor does a bunch of meely mouthed excuses. Turn it around or hit the bricks.

3:16 PM  
Blogger Peter Frankenschmidt said...

Combo nuber 11 at the mexican place I ate at in North Carolina was a burrito, taco and enchillada. It ruled.

I'm fearful for the future. Really, really fearful. Rock bottom is not losing out this season. Rock bottom is losing a HC, losing a year of recruits due to program instability, having back to back losing seasons, losing another year of recruits due to having a sucky team, then going 2-10 in 2010. I hope that doesn't happen.

3:17 PM  
Blogger michael said...

well why don't we just call you peter frankenbummer?

3:20 PM  
Blogger BinOBA said...

I'm certainly not scared of hiring another coach, what's the worst he could do, change to an offense he hasn't recruited for? Mix about 4 different schemes of offense, throw it against the wall and see what sticks? I think it is ridiculous to pay someone what he is being paid and not really have a sound plan for changing your scheme on offense. Just like puttin your **** in a pickle slicer if you ask me, what do you expect to happen?

3:35 PM  
Blogger Peter Frankenschmidt said...

sweet loving....just sayin'.

3:40 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I have posted previously that the root of our offensive problems the past 3 years are the slow WRs with poor fundamentals. I'm sure this comment seems bizarre until you watch film and consider the consequences.

I watched the DVR game replay of the WVa game and once again saw a team slowly and surely move the DBs and LBs closer to the line as the game progressed. The safeties started the game around 10-12 yds deep and by the 3rd-4th qtr were 6-8 yds deep. When we got in the I, they had 10 in the box and still covered our WRs. We ran deep pass plays, but never got anyone open. This smothered our offense--spread or pro or power I (and we ran all all of them evenly in the second half).

We called all kinds of plays..long and short passes out of every formation, reverses, power runs, Qb runs, spread runs...all to no avail.

Can't blame the blocking...they were way outnumbered. Can't blame the playcalling or formations...looking at the replay, there were many good plays called at the right time, but no chance b/c they were smothered and the long passes couldn't even be thrown b/c no WRs were open. Can't blame the effort..it was there. There was offensive line confusion.....b/c they were trying to block too many folks.

Au fans have blamed every QB, coach and playcaller for 3 years. The WR problems have caused these problems. CTT stated that he went to the spread to attract WRS b/c we didn't have enough good ones. Dunn and Frenchy are hurt, so we have no speed. )Swinton doesn't count). The other guys are possession type WRs at best...we have no deep threats.

Why are we ahead at every halftime and then lose? the defense closes in ,, smothers us and the defense gets tired.

3:40 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hoopie, when I watched the Spring game last year I thought we were moving at 3/4 speed. I now realize that was full on from the WRs. Good post!

3:45 PM  
Blogger Winder said...

The same thing happened when Nall/Ensminger were running the offense a couple of years ago.
Part of the problem is you have a QB with limited ability. Every Defensive Co. we face for the rest of year is going to stack the box and make Burns throw the ball. We have a ton of problems right now on offense. There is no bright spot.

3:48 PM  
Blogger AUWade said...

thanks Jay G!

3:49 PM  
Blogger BinOBA said...

Certainly, hoopie. We are the bottom of the barrel at WR and coaches at wr. Nothing but courtney taylor really the past several years, and he wasn't all that and a bag of chips.

3:51 PM  
Blogger Lovecrafty said...

One game does not a QB make, but Burns looked pretty good throwing the ball last week.

Now if we had some WRs who could get open and catch the ball when they are (I'm looking at you, Tim Hawthorne) I think our record would be completely different.

3:53 PM  
Blogger BinOBA said...

If's and buts, candies and nuts, yada yada yada

3:59 PM  
Blogger Josh M said...

Ok so I'm confused a bit... A lot of you guys said the night of the WVU lost "Oh my God! The team just rolled over." "I saw a lot of quit in the coaches and players." Then once Jay says, "Effort was not the issue." ya'll are like "Yeah....YEAH I totally agree thats right, effort is not the issue." Just because Jay says it, you agree?

Jay, you said that effort wasn't the problem until the last 8 minutes. Wasn't that the most important part of the game?! They had a chance in the 4th. Then they just gave up. Body language had changed and there was no excitement or energy on the field or sideline. In my opinion effort was an issue.

4:02 PM  
Blogger the biscuitator said...

Jay, weren't people killing you earlier this year when you said that if the defense loses a few people they would be pretty average...looks like that is absolutely the case now.

Also, Offensively the hodgepodge you speak of would that be call the Tony Borallsmingberville West Coast Spread? I noticed on the Review show that Tuberville said that with any play they could take back from Thrusday's loss it would be the reverse after the onside...thoughts?

4:05 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Are we wrong to keep calling 2003 NallsMinger?

Weren't they just running the Petrino playbook without Petrino?

4:06 PM  
Blogger the biscuitator said...

Oh yeah I forgot to implement Petrino into my previous reference. The new name of this year's post Tony Franklin version of the offense should be called, "The Albobny Borallsmingbervilleino Pro Style West Coast Spread."

4:09 PM  
Blogger Jay G. Tate said...

JoshM: You're right. The whole team quit. Nobody played hard at any point. West Virginia wanted to make a big comeback, so they let Auburn get ahead 17-3. That was the plan all along.

4:11 PM  
Anonymous alan said...

Josh,

The reason we all agree with jay is the same reason you always agree with Doug.

4:13 PM  
Blogger Jay G. Tate said...

That's not Josh Moon.

4:13 PM  
Anonymous Alan said...

That's not Alan.

4:16 PM  
Blogger michael said...

It's probably all Tim. Enough with the shenanigans, Tim! YOU HEAR ME?!!

4:17 PM  
Blogger Jay G. Tate said...

Are we ourselves?

4:17 PM  
Blogger Jay G. Tate said...

I don't wanna lose you to-night ...

4:17 PM  
Blogger the biscuitator said...

When has Josh Moon agreed with Doug...ever?

4:17 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

In 2006, I couldn't put my finger on the problem other than BCox's weak arm. In 2007, I got a DVR and started watching in slo-mo. You can't see the WRs being covered on TV as well as in person, but you can see the QB look deep downfield and constantly have to dump to the safety guy for a 2 yd gain.

It takes stopping the film and counting the LB/Db distance off the line of defensive scrimmage and the # of guys in the box in each quarter to see my point.

What is unconventional is that this problem answers almost every one of our offensive quandries. I mean...no way one issue should have that many ramifications, but it sure seems to.

Mr. S, In the spring game, our D did not "close up" as the game progressed(I was at the scrimmmage and watched the tape later on CSS). The D was totally generic. I remember Slaughter caught a TD near the end of the scrimmage and fans cheered. I was astonished that folks didn't realize that he caught it with alligator arms and let the ball float gently down into his bread basket. Slaughter was originally wide open, but the Db almost swatted the ball b/c Slaughter didn't step back towards the ball, catch it up high and reduce the time the ball was in the air. Watch the WRs warmup...most of them don't even extend their hands away from their bodies in warmups...and the coaches watch this and don't correct them.

We started that game with "confidence" and playcalling and blocking and good Qb play and all of the other things that we comlain about. We tried to throw deep, but it ALL slowly broke down as we couldn't complete a long pass and the defense realized that they could cover our WRs deep with progressively less effort.

4:18 PM  
Anonymous barkley for govenor said...

I am just now recovering from the beat down Thursday night that will soon be known as the end of the Tuberville era.

Lots of comments to read, I think we have gotten to the point to where we are so bad noone really cares what happens until Nov. 29th.

Mr. Sensible, I got to listen to part of your show Saturday for the first time. Great show, just please get rid of the Bama co-host, they are getting more and more arrogant as this season goes on.

4:20 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

My thoughts...

I wanted to add my thoughts to what he posted.

"Nobody owns this offense."
Who's fault is this? The players for not buying in to begin with or The Coaches for not sticking with something consistently.

"This offense truly is a hodgepodge of ideas."
Auburn's offense has been this way for years, not just this year. Look at 2006. After Kenny Irons gets hurt, we start playing score 17 and hold on ball for the rest of Brandon Cox's/Al Borges's careers. You are telling me that the "genius" who put together that backfield in 2004 suddenly forgot how to coach in 06-07? No way.

"Adjustments"
I do agree here. However, for whatever reason, not even Franklin made adjustments earlier this season. (And no, simplifying the offense quarter by quarter does not count as adjustment.)

"Effort"
I'm more concerned with a lack of vocal leadership on the offensive side of the team. The seniors aren't those kind of guys form all reports on their personalities. That means AU needs a guy like Nick Stephens from UT, who, as a sophomore, got in the face of his guys the other night to fire them up and they did drive and score late in that game.

Those are my thoughts to Jay's post. Add yours below.

4:21 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Thanks for listening Barkley.

I can't get rid of him as technically he is the host and I am the co-host.

My time on the show is probably drawing nigh...

4:22 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Body language changed when Burns threw a worm burner to Trott and got chewed out by Tubs. At that point it was evident that CTT was acting like a man on the verge...

If they were putting forth full effort - then help them vs GA and AL

4:22 PM  
Blogger frizzle said...

All bammers are arrogant. It's their nature to always be arrogant no matter what their record is.

4:22 PM  
Blogger WDEwg said...

Hoopie
Very insightful and unfortunately accurate post.

What about throwing the deep route even if it is covered? Sure, I guess it gets picked, but currently, it seems that play draws a flag about half the time. At least if we chuck it down there incompete (in lieu of the wasted
1st down HB lateral pitch play for 0 yards)- we keep the safeties from creeping up.

4:22 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I rescind all overtures to Mike Gundy.

Pickens Gives More

4:24 PM  
Blogger the biscuitator said...

Mr. S,

Where can we catch your show?

4:24 PM  
Blogger Steve from Columbia said...

hoopie, you give the best assessment of the problems. The quarterbacks haven't been the big issue. The receivers have been. Actually, Campbell had the same issue early in his career. The receivers weren't there. It wasn't until his senior season that the receivers came around.

Jay, I agree that nobody owns the offense. CTT should have named Ensminger interim OC so there would be one guy to provide a consistent strategy. I fear CTT has taken that on and as an OC, he is a great DC.

As for Mindbomb, can someone please have him replay the Bill Oliver clip. I missed it the first 40 times he replayed it. To me, the comment wasn't a big deal. Obviously Shula left Saban some talent.

4:25 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Email me mr_sensible_auburn@yahoo.com Biscuitator for that info. I try not to pimp that too much in Jay G.'s webspace.

4:26 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I watched the replay for signs of "lack of effort". The offensive line was "overwhelmed" b/c there were 2-3 more guys to block than blockers.

The D got winded in the 4th qtr...there was a lot of 2nd string out there and a lot of time on the field.

I apologize to "Josh M" for not bringing this up earlier. I didn't originally tape the game and didn't really want to make many comments until I saw the film.

We had a large group over to watch the game and there were.......beverages, so any previous game/scheme comments would by me not have been valid.

4:29 PM  
Blogger Jay G. Tate said...

Doesn't bother me at all, Sensi.

4:31 PM  
Blogger michael said...

The auburn offense is like a merry-go round, going awound in circles.

Sensible, don't feel bad. Jan Terri pays me to pimp her videos in this space. That's just the way the world is.

4:32 PM  
Blogger Monica said...

I leave and y'all get all existential on me.


Are we us?

4:51 PM  
Blogger Jay G. Tate said...

I'm busy reading Rene Descartes.

Shhhh.

5:00 PM  
Blogger Monica said...

lightweight

5:03 PM  
Blogger Steve from Columbia said...

It is ironic that in 2004 Bama being down hurt our chances at making the BCSCG. It appears that this season we may return the favor.

5:04 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Derrida...

5:05 PM  
Blogger Josh M said...

Jay, did I say they didn't show effort the whole game?? No, I think not. The first half was probably one of the best of the season. But the 4th quarter was when the team looked like they had given up.

5:06 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

you are reaching and searching there steve. if they run the table they are a shooooo in

5:07 PM  
Blogger Steve from Columbia said...

Tim, if Texas, Penn State, and Bama run the table, it will likely be Texas vs Penn State. JoePa gets it due to the geezer ballot.

5:08 PM  
Blogger Steve from Columbia said...

I knew the WV game was over when we punted with 6 minutes left and down by ten. We had already shown that our defense was in trouble. With 4th and 4, you have to go for the first down there. It wasn't realistic to think we would get the ball back twice with the way the WV offense was playing. We waved the white flag.

5:10 PM  
Blogger michael said...

When we punted, I almost yelled that other name for a cat in front of my 4 year old. He was playing to keep the final score as close as possible.

5:13 PM  
Blogger Jay G. Tate said...

Steve, you're right.

The last bit of the fourth quarter was really poor work by Auburn.

5:13 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

On the defense in the 4th qtr:

It looked like their hands were of litte use. Maybe the defense was just cold. Heaters couldn't have hurt.

Made the head coach seem childish to me.

5:14 PM  
Blogger Steve from Columbia said...

michael, you may be correct. We have been highly successful loosing close games this year. Maybe they just wanted to stick with the trend.

5:15 PM  
Anonymous jrmax said...

No way Steve, the nat'l media has a man crush on Saban right now

5:16 PM  
Blogger Steve from Columbia said...

I don't believe the defense was cold. They were out there a lot in the second half. If nothing else, the cool weather may have helped them some. The defense just looks tired. I don't think it was players quiting. It is just a case of them being relied on way too much this season.

5:17 PM  
Blogger Kris said...

You don't post much Hoop, but when you do its a doooozie! I agree with you on all points, but I was unable to gather from your words what needs to be done to fix it? All I know is that you can turn on any college game (Navy excluded) and see wide receivers getting open and making plays. Why not at Auburn? It is a trend since forever and I for one am sick and freakin tired of it. Four QBs on scholly and not a single wideout that can beat single coverage...its gettin regarshdarndiculous! By the way, I'm borrowing whatever I have left in my 401 k and putting it on Ol Miss to cover that line.

5:18 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I hate to compare, but Alabama did this last year. Get up early, don't adjust much (scheme or attitude) and lose the game in the second half.

In the off-season they:
1) Hire an OC who come in to existing staff and "fixes" the O
2) Recruit like Banshees and get some playmakers

This year, the difference is easy to see.

Just sayin...

5:18 PM  
Blogger michael said...

Good point, Tim. Maybe a little warmth is all we needed.

But what was the temperature? Wasn't it only 40 or so? That is way too warm to get cold, even for us southerners. When you are running around and stuff, it doesn't feel cold.

5:19 PM  
Blogger Kris said...

I feel you Josh M and disagree that effort wasn't the issue. That team quit way before the 8 minute left mark.

5:20 PM  
Blogger Steve from Columbia said...

jrmax, JoePa is a bigger story than Saban. Many thought he would be shown the door last year. Yea, the media like Saban, but the JoePa thing is incredible.

I do think the point will be mute because I can't see Bama winning the SECCG. I think Florida or Georgia will take them out. I know they beat Georgia, but Georgia has finally hit their stride. It is similar to last season. Tennessee beat Georgia before they hit their stride, but wasn't close to being as good as Georgia at the end of the season.

I do think Bama has a good chance against LSU if JPW does a decent job throwing the ball. LSU looks done. I even heard people talking about Les Miles being on the hotseat, which is very interesting.

5:21 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Was it cold there Jay?

5:21 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Michael Jan Terry...

...I think you will appreciate this.

COVER SONG

5:22 PM  
Blogger Steve from Columbia said...

Mr. Sensible, the more I think about it the more I am convinced CTT needs to let the new OC pick his own staff. CTT can try to sell his position coaches to the new OC, but I think it is time for CTT to stop meddling with the offense, make the OC responsible for what he does, and see what happens.

A new OC should be able to evaluate offensive coaches better than CTT.

5:24 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Steve where have you been the last four weeks dude?

5:26 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

SteveFC,

I'm coming around to the idea that the new OC needs to bring some of his people because our situation has proven that outsiders will ultimately be forced to change/leave.

I just don't think Tubs has to jettison the whole offensive staff.

Good coaches who can also recruit talent are hard combos to find. I hope AU can fine a few.

5:26 PM  
Blogger Mark said...

It actually hurt when I saw Enrique run that long run against UA. Dang, that could have been him running for us.

5:27 PM  
Blogger Steve from Columbia said...

The same place I have always been Tim. What is your point?

5:27 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

That has already been suggested and discussed like 50,000 times

5:29 PM  
Blogger Steve from Columbia said...

I just think Tuberville needs to leave it up to the new OC. We have good offensive coaches that have won a lot of games, but you have to admit will seem to have always been limited when it comes to passing offensively. A new OC should be able to evaluate the offensive coaching staff and decide who he can teach to run his system. I do believe in the continuity you have mentioned, but I keep getting the impression that CTT isn't allowing the OC to own the offense.

5:30 PM  
Blogger Steve from Columbia said...

You have lost me Tim.

5:31 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Tim needs a hug...

5:31 PM  
Blogger Monica said...

Especially if Coach Joe P at Penn State did something like announce his retirement. That would surely earn him a few votes.

5:32 PM  
Blogger Steve from Columbia said...

An interesting question. During the last couple years of Air Borges, we kept getting more conservative and less creative. Was that due to Borges or Tuberville?

5:33 PM  
Blogger michael said...

Maybe JoePa could fake a terminal condition for some more sympathy votes.

Sensible, that Final Countdown video was great. Those kids were trying so hard. I especially liked the one key at a time keyboard player.

5:34 PM  
Blogger Monica said...

What exactly is the internet good for if not beating a dead horse?

Tim - rehashing. It's just how we get down.

5:35 PM  
Blogger Steve from Columbia said...

I agree Monica. JoePa is an amazing story this season and if I were him this would be my last season. He has the chance to go out on a high note. The only thing that may keep him around is the competition with Bowden over most wins.

5:35 PM  
Blogger michael said...

Steve - seems like the party line after '05 was that we threw too much and we needed to stick to running the ball. Tubs and Borges said it, I think. '06 would be the year of the established run. All that sort of baloney. I may be remembering wrong though.

5:36 PM  
Blogger Steve from Columbia said...

You could be right michael. I remember Tuberville once saying we needed to be able to run when they new we were going to run. Actually, I liked the idea when thinking about the bowl game against Penn State when Ronnie Brown took the to school.

5:38 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I thought Tubs told Borges to play it close once we got leads in 06 and 07.

I may remember that wrong though.

Glad you liked it Michael Jan Terry.

5:38 PM  
Blogger Monica said...

First, I cannot express how much I love Jim Cramer.

Secondly, Jay, what was the name of that QB we said no to? I heard you talk about him on the Roundtable on Friday.

5:39 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anybody got any good recruiting information on Texas high school QBs?

They seem to be the thing to have these days.

5:41 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

On CTT's meltdown after the worm burner.....Trott was open for a long time with room to run after the catch, however Burns was going through his progressions to get to Trott. So... was CTT hot b/c Burns should have gone through the progressions faster? It didn't seem that way on film. Was Trott's route supposed to be earlier in the progressions? maybe...I don't have the playbook. Was CTT hot just b/c of the wormburner? Could be. Was there someone else open deep that Burns didn't see? I couldn't tell on a TV review, but that was the impression I got.

JGT...you are right.....poor work...the last half of the 4th qtr we were out of options, out of energy and confused. Felt like Bowden's last year.

I'm sticking with the unconventional wisdom that the WR issues mentioned in my diatribes above are somewhere between the underlying cause and the catalyst.

One other Wr point. In 2006 and 2007 ever notice that we were able to engineer a latescoring drive ince the defense backed up into a nickel or dime? The defenses aren't doing that this year. they are playing up close right to the end. Maybe they all swapped notes along with game film OR watched the UGA game last year. UGA didn't back up and play nickel and we didn't get those late game drives.

5:42 PM  
Blogger Monica said...

LOL That's so funny, Mr. S! Greg and I were saying we should road trip to Texas for a QB. During one of the games I watched this weekend they threw out the stats of how many Texas QB's were in top 25 schools or something like that.

5:47 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I apologize for being a one trick pony tonight(my chest now weighs less).

I'm out..gotta go swim. Doctors orders.

5:47 PM  
Blogger Steve from Columbia said...

Monica, you may be referring to the kid from Texas that committed to Kentucky. I don't recall the name, although it was polishish.

5:47 PM  
Blogger Josh M said...

Finally Kris! Someone who gets their opinion from their own brain. Tubs and the rest of the coaching staff can't be TOTALLY (notice I emphasized totally!) blamed for the loss at WVU. Auburn looked like a complete different team in the 2nd half (playing wise and mentally as well).

5:48 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ryan Mossakowski is the player you are referring to.

5:50 PM  
Blogger wartiger said...

Good evening hotties, I have nothing really enlightening or new to bring to the table so just stopping by to give a big WAR EAGLE. I imagine I'll be back. Like Jay posted seems to be a slows news day as it relates to AU so what's the latest rumor. I heard Fulmer will definitely get his walking papers and either cutcliff or Paul Johnson will be replacemnets?

5:52 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Josh M, I'd like you to try and tell me where I haven't posted thoughts from "my brain" on here.

Further, the Hotties come here for information. It's called learning. When you get more detail, you refine opinions.

Yours is most welcome here, of course. Just don't slam on folks here for their opinions. That's why we (largely) left the message board world to hang out here.

5:52 PM  
Blogger Monica said...

Yes, Steve (ha ha @polishish)

Mr. S. comes through again. Thank you! That's the kid.

5:53 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

WarTiger...haven't heard the Paul Johnson stuff. That's interesting.

Where did you hear/read that?

Thanks for sharing.

5:53 PM  
Blogger Steve from Columbia said...

I feel so foolish for not being able to spell Mossakowski

5:53 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yep, Joker Phillps will love using that guy for sure.

5:54 PM  
Blogger Steve from Columbia said...

I would be surprise if Cutcliff replaces Fulmer. From what I understand, they are good friends.

5:56 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Gang, I've got to go to a late presentation.

Peace and Go Titans!

5:58 PM  
Blogger michael said...

About the team "quitting." I am still not sure how you define that. We only stopped them without a turnover once all night, so it's not like the D just "quit" in the second half. They didn't play well the whole game. The "quit" on the D-side of the ball to me was when they were missing tackles and such late in the game,and I would hate to say it was quitting because it just as well may have been fatigue.

And the offense, well, I know things were clicking in the first half, but some of it was gimicky like the ole borges fullback wheel, and some of it was luck (see blown calls by officials), and some of it was more luck (i had to pinch myself after each 3rd down conversion. was that really us?) I know, it's probably not fair to lump that all into luck, but even when we were up 14, I felt like they were the better team. There were winning more battles up front even then. It was like watching a child walk for the first time seeing the O be successful. Sure, you are excited and it was nice to see, but you knew the child was about to fall right on their butt. We were getting too many things with too small a margin of error. Certainly not good enough to win a game where your opponent only punts once.

So anyway, about the quitting. They were a better team than us, they outplayed us, sometimes that happens. To me, it seemed like the coaching staff panicked and quit first, and I still won't commit that any player really "quit," because that is a pretty tall charge for me from my desk job at work to say someone who has been putting in the hours since August to play football for Auburn quit, when in actuality they may have just been tired from chasing running backs from behind all day.

6:02 PM  
Blogger Jay G. Tate said...

JoshM is annoying me.

6:02 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

this may be a stupid question, but with the current state of our program maybe not. Is the AU Ole Miss game even going to be televised?

6:02 PM  
Blogger Josh M said...

I never said anything about you Mr. Sensi, I wasn't attacking any "certain person", I'm not calling anyone out either. Its just some of the people that post comments change their opinions and statements faster then a crooked politician. Nothing personal against anyone.

6:02 PM  
Blogger Monica said...

Need a quarterback? Head to Texas

According to Rivals Cali and PA used to be the go to states for QB's. Now it's TX.

6:10 PM  
Blogger Jay G. Tate said...

AU/UM is going to be on Raycom at 11:30 a.m.

6:12 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Not taking it persoonal. Just sticking up for Hotties who change opinions when they learn new information.

6:14 PM  
Blogger Josh M said...

But do you guys seriously think that the blame for the WVU loss belongs solely to the coaches and staff? Even though some of the blame should fall on the coaches, the team needs to be held accountable as well. There is only so much to coach and then the rest is left up to the players to either do or not do what they have coached. I do agree that something has to done about half-time adjustments. Half-time is meant for more then taking a team vote on whether to eat at longhorns or hooters after the game!

6:16 PM  
Blogger Monica said...

I was very impressed that the mathematician was a she.

6:18 PM  
Blogger Monica said...

hmmm the Banhammer peeked from behind the curtain and all the munchkins ran

*crickets*

6:30 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

JoshM,

It takes a collaboration of several factors and peoples to look they way AU has looked the last few games.

Players tend to follow the coaches' leads. When the coaches are lost so are the players.

6:31 PM  
Blogger Jay G. Tate said...

I think this is a strategy issue more than an effort issue.

If you disagree, that's fine. I encourage disparate opinions.

I just think you need to check your tone, JoshM. You roll up in here and start ripping the HOTTIES for flip-floppin ... like you were picking Auburn to go 6-6 in July.

Tell me you did. I'm sure of it.

6:35 PM  
Blogger wartiger said...

gotta be honest just some heresay stuff from a buddy at work. He is a GT fan so he may have read it somewhere. I'll dig a little deeper and get back to you sensible. The more big time programs that become job opening the worse of an idea it becomes to fire CTT.

6:36 PM  
Blogger wartiger said...

I had 11-2 playing the the sugar bowl. I think I missed it....

6:38 PM  
Blogger Josh M said...

Nah man actually I had them going to the SEC Championship. But those were just expectations, and in Auburn's case expectations have been too good to be true the last couple of years.... sigh*

6:42 PM  
Blogger Jay G. Tate said...

I think I said 9-3 ... with my second choice being 8-4.

I missed, too.

6:42 PM  
Anonymous J. Kev said...

"There are coaches out there, good coaches, who spend their entire careers perfecting a certain scheme so they can counter any adjustments a defense offers."

Jay, that's crap, if you were talking about this staff.

This "coterie" -- if you will -- of coaches that has come from Ole Miss has spent the last decade riding a gravy train. Tubs has been loyal to them to a fault, and it's finally caught up with him.

Since Jay G. doesn't pimp it anymore, I'll do it. Ahem:

Don't miss "Hatin' with Jay G., Thursdays at 8:25 at www.thefan970.com

6:43 PM  
Blogger wartiger said...

sigh..i know it's early but any predictions for next years record. without studying it but knowing it is the road schedule I'll go...8-4. I'll take a closer look at it and give a more educated guess

6:45 PM  
Blogger wartiger said...

hey 8-4 aint out of the question..NEVER GIVE UP!! NEVER SURRENDER!! FREEEEEDOOOM!!!

6:46 PM  
Blogger Jay G. Tate said...

I definitely was not talking about this staff. No.

6:47 PM  
Blogger wartiger said...

well for a road schedule I have seen worse alot depends on whether or not we get our crap together hell who knows I'll go 9-3 with eight over bama. That's right HOTTIES we will BEAT BAMA again. I've heard alot of talk from the bammers that all we AU fans care about is beating bama. I don't listen long enough for rebutles mainly because I have learned the only intelligent come from the HABOTN.

6:57 PM  
Blogger wartiger said...

insert opinions..yeah you get it

6:58 PM  
Blogger WarEagleRK said...

I had 10-2 with losses to LSU and at West Virginia...at least I picked some part of it right.

This weekend we get Tubs returning to his old stomping grounds, and hoping that this isn't the game that helps nail close that pinebox he spoke of 10 short years ago.

So I'm guessing a lot of Jevon Sneed and a lot of crossing patterns in the early game on Saturday.

It doesn't help that Nutt has given Auburn and Tub fits over the years.

7:01 PM  
Blogger EDDIE4AU said...

Lots of discussions going on here tonight. Can you imagine if we really had news today??

I think that the defense gave up at the very end of the game when Devine ripped that 30+ yard run pretty much untouched. Other than that, I think they play hard, but I don't believe the coaching staff had a good game plan for WV. I believe they planned to Blitz Pat White alot and he pretty much made us pay for it all night long with the exception of the two picks. Also, anyone who has watched Auburn the last few years knows that you can run the ball by running misdirection plays such as counters and cutbacks. Our defense has a hard time of not over-pursuing and staying home and playing their gaps.

Anybody else like me and wish that we would stop blitzing this year? It seems like when we blitz we tend to give up big plays.

7:14 PM  
Blogger Steve from Columbia said...

jkev, what Jay was saying is that Auburn lacks the ability to make those adjustments because we do not have an offense. We have this mish mash of several and no OC.

I do think Ensminger should be named the interim OC. I know that a title may not seem like much, but someone has to be the man to make the decisions in terms of where the mish mash offense goes. It can't be a groupl concensus and I don't think CTT is the person to make the decisions either.

As for the people ripping the coaches, this staff has been very successful. You can refer to it as riding the gravy train, but these coaches have worked very hard and deserve respect for their contribution to Auburn.

7:16 PM  
Blogger Jay G. Tate said...

Auburn blitzes less now than any Auburn defense I've ever seen.

7:18 PM  
Anonymous Fake Steve Jobs said...

Monica,

Did you ever get an answer to your question about what Oliver said that had the Bama folks in an uproar today?

If not, here's the answer. He said on the JOX Roundtable (how those two ever got a show, I'll never know) that Saban ought to go down to Florida and hug Mike Shula's neck for leaving him so many talented players.

Of course, I don't recall Oliver giving Bill Curry any credit for recruiting John Copeland, Eric Curry, Antonio London and the others on those great defenses he coached at Alabama.

Bottom line, yes Shula recruited some good players (Andre Smith, Glen Coffee, Roy Upchurch), and some good players with attitude problems (DJ Hall, Jimmy Johns, etc). Saban has had to sort all of that out and is coaching them very well, IMO. Something Mike Shula probably would not have been able to do. Mike Shula is a good guy, but he is no Head Coach.

7:24 PM  
Blogger EDDIE4AU said...

I agree with you Steve that they deserve a lot of credit for the success, but I do believe they are to blame for the failures.

Here is how are offense ranked with current Offensive Staff:

2008- 109th out of 120
2007- 98th out of 120
2006- 76th out of 120
3005- 37th out of 120
2004- 25th out of 120
2003- 60th out of 120
2002- 44th ouf of 120
2001- 84th out of 119
2000- 62nd out of 117
1999- 101st out of 117

So 7 out of the 10 years ths offensive has been in the middle to the back half of college football. We have been very fortunate to win close games in the past despite not scoring many points, but it is definitely catching up with us this year and I do believe that change is needed on the Offensive Staff, especially if you want a decent OC to take the job.

7:31 PM  
Blogger EDDIE4AU said...

Maybe I just notice that we get beat on most the times we blitz and it sticks out. I thought for sure we blitzed several times. I don't have the stomach to go back and watch the game again.

7:33 PM  
Anonymous au1n04 said...

Ok, my apologies, I just caught up and watched those videos of Jan Terri. It was like a train wreck. Kind of like the AU offense.

7:37 PM  
Anonymous au1n04 said...

Is there an echo?

7:38 PM  
Blogger Monica said...

Fake Steve - Thanks very much for the answer and the commentary. Makes sense to me now. Did you find Oliver's comments abrasive?

7:44 PM  
Blogger Brian said...

Great post Jay..never really thought of or looked at it that way. Sometimes they just look confused. In the 3rd and 4th quarter, they just looked like they didn't know what they were doing--period.

7:47 PM  
Blogger wes said...

Whoa...I think Noel Devine just ran past my bedroom window.

7:48 PM  
Blogger Phormerly Phred said...

Dr. Seuss says:

Why does everyone keep saying
IF Ole Miss wins?
As IF the IF
Is really an IF.
It's not an IF
IF is a when
And IF is a win
So IF when they win
What then?

7:48 PM  
Blogger EDDIE4AU said...

Phred, you sure no how to make every post count. That is great.

7:51 PM  
Blogger Monica said...

Phred - You scare and delight me.

7:54 PM  
Blogger wartiger said...

there is a reason phred is in the RoF..duede you're the man!!

8:01 PM  
Blogger EDDIE4AU said...

Sure is quiet night. I look forward to a day that deserves a campfire. I'm having campfire withdrawls.

8:05 PM  
Blogger wartiger said...

Jay haven't seen a video in a while got anything planned or do I need to learn how to navigate this site better??

8:05 PM  
Blogger wartiger said...

BTW I need to throw credit toward "The Corner of Wire Road & Shug" for my new pic....

8:08 PM  
Anonymous Fake Steve Jobs said...

I'm not a big fan of his to begin with, so I am probably not objective. I was and am a Gene Stallings fan. Oliver schemed for two years to try to force Stallings to retire so he could take over. Hootie Ingram (the AD at the time) had promised Oliver the job. Hootie was forced to retire/resign in 1995 in the wake of the Langham fiasco. Oliver at that point was a without his biggest advocate. Stallings was going to fire Oliver after the 1995 season due to his efforts to force a change at the HC position. Oliver took the job with Bowden before Stallings could fire him.

8:09 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hoopie: I found your post about the receivers interesting. I'm not on the Texas Tech bandwagon, but it intrigues me how the Texas Tech coaching staff prepares their receivers for games:

"What a defense sees, when it lines up against Texas Tech, is endless variety, caused, first, by the sheer number of people racing around trying to catch a pass and then compounded by the many different routes they run. A typical football offense has three serious pass-catching threats; Texas Tech's offense has five, and it would employ more if that wasn't against the rules. Leach looks at the conventional offense - with its stocky fullback and bulky tight end seldom touching the football, used more often as blockers - and says, "You've got two positions that basically aren't doing anything." He regards receivers as raffle tickets: the more of them you have, the more likely one will hit big. Some go wide, some go deep, some come across the middle. All are fast. (When Leach recruits high-school players, he is forced to compromise on most talents, but he insists on speed.) All have been conditioned to run much more than a football player normally does. A typical N.F.L. receiver in training might run 1,500 yards of sprints a day; Texas Tech receivers run 2,500 yards. To prepare his receivers' ankles and knees for the unusual punishment of his nonstop-running offense, Leach has installed a 40-yard-long sand pit on his practice field; slogging through the sand, he says, strengthens the receivers' joints. And when they finish sprinting, they move to Leach's tennis-ball bazookas. A year of catching tiny fuzzy balls fired at their chests at 60 m.p.h. has turned many young men who got to Texas Tech with hands of stone into glue-fingered receivers."

NY Times Article

8:14 PM  
Blogger EDDIE4AU said...

Good post Tim. I have read that before about Texas Tech. I like the idea of catching tennis balls at high rates of speed. I'm surprised by the sand pit, I hadn't heard about the sand pit before. I would be weary about that since Robert Edwards almost lost his leg by playing touch football in the sand.

8:20 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

eddie4au, after watching a little Texas Tech vs. Kansas this past weekend, I realized how accurate that article truly was. I didn't see one receiver that couldn't catch. I never saw one get tired either. If you haven't already done so, watch Michael Crabtree...that kid is amazing...

8:27 PM  
Blogger EDDIE4AU said...

I'm looking forward to watching Texas Tech play Texas. I would not be surprised to see Texas Tech win.

8:31 PM  
Anonymous AWK said...

I think it is going to be a little weird this Saturday when Enrique Davis runs for 200 yards against us...Just Saying, I'm going to be in Jacksonville for the World's Largest Outdoor Cocktail Party.

8:31 PM  
Blogger Monica said...

Fake Steve - I didn't realize the timing of all that behind the scenes maneuvering. I understand the bad blood even better now. Thanks.

Tim - Great post. Tennis balls, huh? Very cool. I used to work out at a HIT Center(High Intensity Training). Several college and a couple of pro athletes worked out there and they were always in the sand pit.

8:33 PM  
Blogger EDDIE4AU said...

Awk- It does suck that Enrique plays for Ole Miss, but I sure hope to God that he doesn't run for that many yards.

8:34 PM  
Blogger Monica said...

AWK! Bite your tongue!

8:36 PM  
Blogger Phormerly Phred said...

and then after that, the karate kid comes out and they trim their banzai trees.

8:39 PM  
Blogger EDDIE4AU said...

Brother Oliver always has an agenda. He went to Auburn right before he was about to be run out of bama so that the could get the maximum about of retirement benefits from the Alabama System.

8:39 PM  
Anonymous hip-hopanonymous said...

RIP 2008 season. You never had a fighting chance.

8:40 PM  
Blogger EDDIE4AU said...

This comment has been removed by the author.

8:41 PM  
Blogger EDDIE4AU said...

Hip- You officially pulling the plug. I know the pulse is faint, but its still a pulse none the less.

8:41 PM  
Blogger Phormerly Phred said...

Eddie ... that is an astute observation. I have never even thought about that, but now that I am, I think you are probably right.

8:42 PM  
Blogger EDDIE4AU said...

It was easy for me to make that observation because I heard it from the horses mouth :)!!!

8:46 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

MonD:

From the looks of the game last Saturday, it seems as if Mike Leach has intensified the catch drills for his receivers; instead of tennis balls, he must have started launching 100 MPH Crisco covered marbles from his cannon.

8:59 PM  
Blogger Steve from Columbia said...

I know some may be willing to give up on this season. I am not. We still have the opportunity to upset some people. It sounds ridiculous to type, but it can happen.

I like how die compared what CTT is going through this year with his transition away from the wishbone after the 1985 season. It was that transition that lead to a string of SEC championships.

Can Tuberville do it? We shall see. I do think he made the right choice going to the spread. All you have to do is look at the top ten these days and you see why.

9:02 PM  
Blogger michael said...

2008 Season! I wish I knew how to quit you!

9:08 PM  
Blogger Phormerly Phred said...

What Phred thinks (as if anybody cares):

At the risk of being accused of flip-flopping ...

Kodi Burns is a good QB when he is not playing terribly.

CTT should be fired but I think he should get another chance.

I don't think the team quit until they decided to quit right before they did.

I don't think we will win another game but we might beat Ole Miss, UGA, UT Martin and Bama.

I don't think the spread will work at Auburn but it could work at Auburn, if we can figure out how to make it work at Auburn.

9:14 PM  
Blogger Phormerly Phred said...

Oh yea, and I think that Phil Fulmer in an orange shirt looks like ...

The Great Pumpkin Charlie Brown!


I'm the 200th post - I win.

9:17 PM  
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• THE RING OF FIRE •
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Buck

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