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12.17.2008

More talk about "fits"

Hey everyone. Looks like Turner Gill got the memo about how "fit" is the most important thing at Auburn.

The Buffalo News has a story in today's editions about the contract extension Gill signed with U. Buffalo yesterday.

At the bottom is a quote about his dalliance with Auburn.
"Auburn gave me a great opportunity to interview for that job. Again, it wasn’t a [good] fit. And that’s OK. I’m happy to be here at the University at Buffalo, a great academic institution and now going to be a great football program, and a great athletic program, and obviously a great city to be in sports.”
ZERO POINT ZERO: Sports Illustrated's Stewart Mandel, a distant HABOTN associate, writes today that Gene Chizik has a remarkably small chance to succeed at Auburn.

Best passage:
How could Jacobs and his cohorts possibly think the hiring of a 5-19 coach would be well received by their constituents? And how could they possibly expect Chizik to succeed under such divisive circumstances? How can there be such a vast disconnect between that school's powers-that-be and the people they (supposedly) serve?
Photo credit: Buffalo News

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Anonymous Anonymous said...

Bin, but years ago PSU-Pitt was a good in-state rivalry.

2:03 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Jet, You subiminal master you. Can you use those skills to get everyone on the CGC train?

2:04 PM  
Blogger Harrison said...

I do like the fact that CGC seems to be working very hard. That's about all I can ask for right now. How's that for love?

2:05 PM  
Blogger Monica said...

I don't think he has a big head. Y'all just hatin like you do every time we say some man is handsome. pffft :-)

2:08 PM  
Blogger Matt01 said...

I have searched facebook for Eltoro Freeman to confirm his official status. I can't find him. I got some Elton Freemans and some Elmo Freemans, but no Eltoro. Maybe Auburn will set him up with facebook, so we can keep up with him.

2:08 PM  
Blogger Just Win AU said...

Still nothing concrete on Eltoro Freeman - seems like FL is making a late push for him and he did contact Ole Miss.

2:08 PM  
Blogger Monica said...

Coach Dye should be fun to hear today. Must go fix a fresh cup of green tea and honey in preparation.

2:09 PM  
Blogger Will said...

I think we get to discriminate against people named after bad-guys on GI Joe...after yesterday and all.

2:09 PM  
Blogger Jet Says Merry Chizmas said...

Hoopie ... the plan is less subtle. But I'm working on it.

2:11 PM  
Blogger Harrison said...

so if i change my name to roadblock or snake-eyes i would bet booted?

2:11 PM  
Blogger Harrison said...

He contacted Ole Miss? Is that normal?

2:12 PM  
Blogger Will said...

If CGC goes out and signs some guy named Elton Freeman, while "The Bull" heads to OM or UF, I will be severely discouraged.

2:12 PM  
Blogger Jet Says Merry Chizmas said...

Hoopie ...

Step 1. An email a day from Pat Dye ...

2:13 PM  
Blogger Harrison said...

Elmo Freeman would be even worse!
I bet elmo freeman would rather hug than tackle!

2:15 PM  
Blogger WarEagleRK said...

Harrison,

I don't think anyone will descriminate against the baddest man on the planet, Snake Eyes.

2:15 PM  
Blogger WarEagleRK said...

Also, you need to worry about Emo Freeman. He would just listen to sappy music about suicide and cry during the game.

2:16 PM  
Blogger Jet Says Merry Chizmas said...

The new Christmas toy that no kid wants ... the Tickle Me Eltoro.

You tickle Eltoro, and he forearm shivers you in the throat! And he laughs like a jackal the whole way.

2:16 PM  
Blogger Sean "EZ Cheezy" said...

I've my wild turkey ready to go waiting on CPD as we speak. This should be a hoot.

2:17 PM  
Blogger WarEagleRK said...

Harrison, had Elmo Freeman been blitzing JPW instead of Bynes, he would have at least hugged him until someone knocked him down, unlike Bynes who threw a shoulder in and just guessed JPW would fall down.

2:17 PM  
Blogger Harrison said...

those are both awesome christmas toys! excellent work

2:17 PM  
Blogger Monica said...

Wild Turkey! That's what I should have in my green tea instead of honey.

2:17 PM  
Blogger BinOBA said...

I think that is a cop out by Joe pa personally. Pitt really gets up for the game and PSU seen it as nowhere to go from the game but down.

2:17 PM  
Blogger Just Win AU said...

I'm not sure if it's normal Harrison, but reports from Ole Miss are that Freeman did contact them. I think the main reason he is looking around is because Willis is out.

2:18 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey, don't knock on JB. He was afraid of getting a penalty.

2:19 PM  
Blogger ballin said...

Ya'll don't get to worked up over Eltoro one way or the other. Overrated period.

2:19 PM  
Blogger WarEagleRK said...

All he had to do was give him the Elmo hug and throw him to the ground.

2:20 PM  
Blogger Harrison said...

this is the witty banter I enjoy on the HABOTN.

I really hope we keep Eltoro, and why do all our de-commits go to Ole Miss now?

2:20 PM  
Blogger Sean "EZ Cheezy" said...

ballin' we're all up in a storm up about this kid, let us have our fun! SCROOGE!

2:20 PM  
Blogger Harrison said...

go ahead and kick us while we're down ballin'

2:22 PM  
Blogger SteveFC the optimist said...

People, a great philosopher once said "you drive us wild, we'll drive you crazy
You keep on shoutin', you keep on shoutin'".

Lets just move on to something more meaningful. So, which is better smooth or crunchy?

2:22 PM  
Blogger Monica said...

it kinda freaks me out how much Coach Dye sounds like my Daddy

2:23 PM  
Blogger Jet Says Merry Chizmas said...

It would stand to reason that Eltoro would be interested in Ole Miss.

"Eltoro, meet your new coach, El Loco."

2:23 PM  
Blogger Jet Says Merry Chizmas said...

Steve, I really don't care ... all I know is that choosy mothers choose Jif.

2:24 PM  
Blogger WarEagleRK said...

I'd prefer if our de-commits were going to Florida, USC, Texas or schools like that. At least then we know that we are going after the big time names, rather than kids who go to Ole Miss, Southern Miss, La Tech or some place like that when they decide not to come here.

2:24 PM  
Blogger SteveFC the optimist said...

Have we become Houston Nutt's beotch?

2:25 PM  
Blogger Jet Says Merry Chizmas said...

Steve, let's do a FOI on his cell phone and find out.

2:25 PM  
Blogger Just Win AU said...

Harrison, I have been asking that same question, why do all of our de-commits end up at Ole Miss?

2:26 PM  
Blogger BinOBA said...

flaw-duh only has more wins than us since 81, impressive.

2:27 PM  
Blogger WarEagleRK said...

My answer for the past couple of years has been that we are recruiting at an Ole Miss like level. We aren't getting the top level HS guys on anywhere a near consistent basis.

2:27 PM  
Blogger BinOBA said...

Houston had some mojo workin gainst tubs, hopefully chizik can put the shutdown on him.

2:28 PM  
Blogger WarEagleRK said...

BinOBA,

Florida didn't become a national power until 1990. They didn't win their 1st legit SEC title until the Spurrier era.

They were decent in the late 80s, but before that they weren't anything prior to that.

2:29 PM  
Blogger SteveFC the optimist said...

The 2007 recruiting class may have been the best I have ever seen at Auburn, although we lost a lot of that class.

2:30 PM  
Blogger Sean "EZ Cheezy" said...

RK, I think Mean Gene might be able to snatch some of those kids. If gets the staff he says he'll get plus works as hard as hey says he will...I have no doubt.

2:30 PM  
Blogger WarEagleRK said...

Until Spurrier got to Florida they were called the "USC of the SEC: As obnoxious as Southern Cal, with the tradition of South Carolina."

2:30 PM  
Blogger Jet Says Merry Chizmas said...

By how many, BinOBA ... because I can think of 4 wins over them we left on the table that cause an 8 game swing?

82 -- hose job on the onside kick
86 -- choke job
85 -- last second TD
02 -- Duval misses FG

Of course, I guess you could argue the other way for some of our wins, but I won't because that doesn't suit my purpose.

2:31 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

A good football player does not = a good AD

2:31 PM  
Blogger Monica said...

oy vey

2:31 PM  
Blogger WarEagleRK said...

The good thing is, it seems that Chizik is going to work a lot harder in recruiting than Tub was doing the last couple of years.

2:31 PM  
Blogger WarEagleRK said...

Jet,

I think he meant overall record since 1981, not head to head.

2:32 PM  
Blogger WarEagleRK said...

What is Dye saying Monica?

2:32 PM  
Blogger SteveFC the optimist said...

Personally, I think Chizik has to be in panic mode in terms of recruiting. There is little time left before the dead period and we have lost a lot from what was a good recruiting class. Now it looks like we will be lucky if it is a top 20 class.

2:33 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

My comment was in reference to something Dye said before the break

2:34 PM  
Blogger Jet Says Merry Chizmas said...

RK,

I know, but give us 4 wins over them, and take away 4 from them is an 8 game swing.

I agree with you about Chiz's recruiting efforts ... that was my foundation for us needing a change at the top.

2:34 PM  
Blogger Monica said...

nobody's told me this and i don't meduhl
on Wednesday i called jay and he called me back
i'm not gonna make any recommendations
just take down information
this decision is gonna be more important to you
don't hire who i want you to hire
don't hire who lowder or ranes or mcwhoreter
nobody is more qualified than you to make the decision
you've grown up in auburn
walk on to a starter
he's perfectly capable of making the right decision

2:35 PM  
Blogger BinOBA said...

I remember gayland hall at UF, figured UT may be up there, just surprised me that Dye dropped that on Fbomb.

2:35 PM  
Blogger tigercowboy said...

Any word on Willis???

2:35 PM  
Blogger Monica said...

my favorite so far is "I don't meddle" right into "I called Jay on Wed. night" LOL

bless his heart

2:36 PM  
Blogger Jet Says Merry Chizmas said...

Dye said it. I believe it. That settles it.

Anything else? No. Thanks for coming.

2:36 PM  
Blogger BinOBA said...

Oh god, lowder and many others wanted Nutt!?

2:37 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

He doesn't know what he's saying, does he, Monica?

2:38 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

He is fun to listen to...I need a fire going and my flannel pj's on.

2:38 PM  
Blogger Just Win AU said...

I like what he said about Houston Nutt.

2:38 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I may agree with him on the Sexton part.

2:39 PM  
Blogger BinOBA said...

Questioning Nutt's character....

2:39 PM  
Blogger Just Win AU said...

But the BOT aren't supposed to be talking to anyone about the HC job, right?

2:40 PM  
Blogger BinOBA said...

Wonder what the view from under the bus is like for Jimmy Sexton.

2:40 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Does "We" = Auburn University or the committee which I am part of.

2:40 PM  
Blogger SteveFC the optimist said...

I think Nutt is who many would have liked to see in terms of a 3 yards and a cloud of dust offense. Nutt was the thorn in Tuberville's side. I admire Nutt, although I do prefer a younger candidate.

2:41 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

He doesn't meddle, but he's been calling all these people...

2:41 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hence the reason why xCTT walked away with $5.1.

People couldn't call anyone, representing AU at all.

2:41 PM  
Blogger SteveFC the optimist said...

BinOBA, Sexton is too busy looking at his bank account to care whether he is under the bus or not.

2:42 PM  
Blogger BinOBA said...

Dye's wound up.

2:42 PM  
Blogger BinOBA said...

Finescum is a sissy.

2:43 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

There are 50 questions that could have been asked by Finebum if he wanted to really report anything.

And coward when asked about the Plantation Mentality.

2:45 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Finebaum might as well not even be there. I think Dye could have a conversation in a room all by himself.

2:47 PM  
Blogger SteveFC the optimist said...

"Everything's fair in love and war" -- Pat Dye

Will someone please shut him up.

2:48 PM  
Blogger Jet Says Merry Chizmas said...

This would be known as giving him rope. He'll rip him for the rest of the show.

2:48 PM  
Blogger Jet Says Merry Chizmas said...

He probably shouldn't be on the show, but, as we know, hindsight is 50-50.

2:49 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I don't think Finebaum would be welcome in the Auburn family

2:50 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

WOW!!

2:50 PM  
Blogger SteveFC the optimist said...

You are trying to say Patterson coach.

Dye calls Finebaum crazy!!! Chalk one up for Dye.

2:50 PM  
Blogger Jet Says Merry Chizmas said...

I'd love to have Finebaum for dinner.

2:50 PM  
Blogger SteveFC the optimist said...

Kurt Crain coach. Common.

2:51 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Auburn PR Staff

Charles Barkley and Pat, I can't remember my Middle Linebacker's name, Dye.

That is a crack staff!!

2:52 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

until he had a few too many Wild Turkeys, Jet

2:52 PM  
Blogger Sean "EZ Cheezy" said...

Pat is an old man, he's not as sharp as he used to be. Still he's better than half the yo-yos that call in trying to give Paul a piece of their mind.

2:52 PM  
Blogger Monica said...

"name the trustee who has the plantation mentality"
best line so far by Dye

Of course, Fbaum wussed out.

2:54 PM  
Blogger SteveFC the optimist said...

I am beginning to get concerned about not hearing anything about staff hires. I didn't expect to hear a lot, but I expected something by now. Any coach that is a head coach or wanting to be a head coach keeps a list of people he would hire. I expected some of the hires to happen quickly.

2:55 PM  
Blogger Sean "EZ Cheezy" said...

Steve, I firmly expect to hear something about staff once the recruitng dead period starts. He needs kids to meet him and get excited more so than getting staff.

2:56 PM  
Blogger BinOBA said...

Dye denies calloway rumor

2:58 PM  
Blogger tigercowboy said...

1st priority is seeing the kids...He has a strong group out there beating the bushes. It is no accident that recruiting fell off when Joe Whitt was "removed" from the staff.

The coaching staff will begin to take shape after Saturday.

2:59 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Second best line "I know you talk about me when I am not here!" Cut to commercial.

2:59 PM  
Blogger BinOBA said...

Could we get coaches not represented by sexton? Dye cut off again, lol!

3:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

They couldn't even let him finish that time!

3:00 PM  
Blogger Sean "EZ Cheezy" said...

Is he getting cut off intentionally? I hear music building when he's on a roll so maybe he just outruns the lead out.

3:01 PM  
Blogger BinOBA said...

I LOVED the fact dye said folks shouldn't listen to the radio shows, couldn't make it up and make it work.

3:01 PM  
Blogger Monica said...

LOL @ "I know you talk about me when I get off the air" LMAO Love it.

Don't tell me Coach Dye doesn't know exactly what he's saying. The only thing he's guilty of is buying into his own legend and believing his own good press too much, but that happens to almost every person who is subject to hero worship.

3:01 PM  
Blogger weagle83 said...

That was a great shot from Dye about Finebaum talking about him after he's off the air. Wonder how Fine-bum will answer that when he gets back

3:01 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I think they got a Sexton guy to keep everyone happy.

Someone sent out feelers on Tubs which was a no no. Sexton found out about it and to make amends. We pay Tubs for being bad and get a Sexton guy so he doesn't bash us anymore than we need to be.

That makes more sense than Racism.

3:02 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Monica,
I just meant that he says one thing, and in the next sentence he says something that contradicts what he just said.

3:05 PM  
Blogger Just Win AU said...

Now he's retracting what he said about Crain calling him. Did I hear that right?

3:08 PM  
Blogger Just Win AU said...

He wrote the letter - are you kidding me?

3:08 PM  
Blogger Sean "EZ Cheezy" said...

Haha, hell no I wrote it.

3:08 PM  
Blogger Jet Says Merry Chizmas said...

Well, no dangling participles and and sentence fragments!!!!

3:09 PM  
Blogger tigercowboy said...

Good article on PJG on his role in the hire. After reading it I feel more confident that although JJ is not a stellar AD he may not be full lies. He 100% believe he was shocked that Tubs resigned. He and whomever else you want to put in there with him was caught totally flat footed. That is why we did not have the "big name" hiding behind the curtain. This was a close to a true search as you are going to find. The "big names" did not see it coming and therefore they were not able to float their names out there.

3:09 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

No way he wrote that. He is NOT that eloquent.

3:10 PM  
Blogger TarHeelTiger said...

Luv-
I'm sure he thought it, even if he didn't write it ;0)

3:11 PM  
Blogger Jet Says Merry Chizmas said...

Coach, I think about Auburn when I'm drivin' in my truck, too.

If you don't have a scholarship for me, Coach, I walkin' on.

Now, let's see if we can win.

3:12 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

He can't even think that eloquently, TarHeel! LOL

3:13 PM  
Blogger Just Win AU said...

Inviting F'baum to "The Plantation" = priceless

3:13 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The Internet is behind, Just Win...I just heard that invite!

3:14 PM  
Blogger Jet Says Merry Chizmas said...

Coming to major bookstores near you ...

"From Toomer's Corner to Eternity: The Love Sonnets of Patrick Fain Dye."

3:15 PM  
Blogger weagle83 said...

Guess we'll see just how much Fine-bum will talk about him in just a few.

3:16 PM  
Blogger Jet Says Merry Chizmas said...

I love Pat Dye. The old warrior comes back for one more round.

3:16 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

People will be standing in line for that one, Jet!

3:16 PM  
Blogger Just Win AU said...

Jet, I have already pre-ordered my copy. Think I can get Dye to autograph it?

3:18 PM  
Blogger Jet Says Merry Chizmas said...

A Dye-ku for the Hotties:

Grizzled old coach wages
War against smarmy Finebaum
Hotties rejoice. Cough.

3:21 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I missed what Dye said about Saban...

3:22 PM  
Blogger Just Win AU said...

What did Dye say about Saban?

3:23 PM  
Blogger Kristina said...

I'm so glad the hotties seem to be in better spirits these days!!

What did he say about Saban?

3:28 PM  
Blogger SteveFC the optimist said...

Dye talked about how Bama should be embarrassed about losing to Louisiana Monroe.

3:31 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I keep hearing that Au doesn't haveany talent. Scout rated us #6 and #9 in the 2006 and 2007 recruiting classes. Those classes should be anywhere from RSSo to Jr this coming season. Is Scout that bad at grading recruiting classes? Do we really have talent and the fans don't know it? xCTT was supposedly one of the best at developing talent. I guess that didn't happen? If it didn't happen...can it now happen?

I think that we have defensive talent. The D was injured and on the field too much. The offense....it is really hard to tell...did the confusion this year hide/hinder a lot of talent? or were we so devoid of talent, we couldn't do produce? I think we didn't produce on the line and at Rb. Think we are missing talent at WR and QB.

3:37 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

That AU '72 alum had the Bear's cheatin' ways nailed and ol' Pf didn't want to discuss it....."next caller".

3:41 PM  
Blogger Just Win AU said...

Hoopie, F'baum just did not want the '72 Alum being disrespectful to the Bahr.

3:45 PM  
Blogger Guruwill said...

Jay,
Any legs to the rumors about Garner comming in as DC? What about Greg Davis from UT as OC...seems like a perfect fit.

4:04 PM  
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