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12.20.2009

Basketball roundup

Hey everyone. The Auburn men lost to Sam Houston State this afternoon at Beard-Eaves Memorial Coliseum.

You read that correctly.

The Bearkats hit 58 percent of their shots from the field, including a 15-of-28 performance from three-point range. Forward Gilberto Clavell scored 34 points.

``It's obviously a frustrating game," Auburn head coach Jeff Lebo said. ``They came in here and just punched us in the face, and we didn't respond. Offensively, they were so good. Clavell just manhandled us. He absolutely hammered us, and we didn't have any answer for him."

Auburn's record fell to 5-6.

AUBURN WOMEN: Nell Fortner's Tigers were far more successful Sunday, earning a 71-50 win at South Alabama. Center KeKe Carrier continued her remarkable emergence with 23 points.

The Tigers are 8-3.

Photo credit: Todd Van Emst/Auburn University

Questions? Comments? Post directly to the blog below or email me at jgtate@gannett.com.

358 Comments:

Unknown said...: As for who will be the starting QB next season I am of the firm belief it will be "not Kodi". That is about the only thing I would bet on at the moment, although with the coaches going after Newton, "not Caudle" is gaining support.; 12:53 PM
Unknown said...: I think we can add probably not Trotter.; 12:57 PM
Unknown said...: Nova, you are probably right. I would be shocked it Trotter was the guy, even though the coaches have had some good things to say about him. From what I have read, he seems like a kid that will become a coach, but that is just a guess.; 12:58 PM
Unknown said...: Newton has 2 years of eligibility. IF he is the starter, Mosely and Rollison will still have 2 years when he's gone. That's 2 years for them to mature and learn.; 12:59 PM
Unknown said...: Competition in the spring should bring out the best in all of them.; 1:00 PM
Unknown said...: Nova, that is pretty much my line of thinking and where I am guessing the coaches are headed. From the very positive comments on Moseley and the fact that they pursued Newton, that says to me that the coaches think Moseley or Rollison can likely compete for the job against Caudle, but not against Newton. I read somewhere, possibly Beaver, saying that Newton thought he could start immediately at Auburn or MSU. Oklahoma is the other school he is considering, but it wasn't clear who the favorite for the starting job would be. I doubt the coaches guaranteed him the job, but I bet they told Newton they thought he would be the favorite to win the job.; 1:03 PM
wtc said...: If Newton comes to AU, the starting job will not be handed to him. He will have to earn it. I think a concern he has/had was any platooning of QB. He wants to be the man if he earns the job.
My concern will be if he doesn't earn it, will be a diruption. According to all of his comments, he is looking to move tot he next level and looking for a team that will let him showcase his talent.; 1:06 PM
Unknown said...: I think Newton's experience puts him in front going in. The JUCOs should help with the experience gap next year.; 1:07 PM
Unknown said...: Newton should take not of what Malzahn did with Todd. When he named him the starter, that was it. There was no platooning and I believe he specifically said he would not do that.; 1:10 PM
Unknown said...: Nova, I actually don't think we have someone that could compete with Newton. The experience he has at the college level would make him a clear leader in my box. Also, the fact that he won a NC at Blinn says a lot to me. It says he wasn't making stupid mistakes.; 1:11 PM
Unknown said...: Another good indication of what the coaches think is that Caudle was in a dead heat with Kodi.; 1:15 PM
Unknown said...: I don't think recruiting Newton necessarily indicates displeasure with the current options. When a potentially stronger candidate presents himself though, you have to give it a serious look.; 1:33 PM
Jay 'W. not Tate' said...: I just want to see Newton signed. I'm getting more and more antsy as the time passes by. I don't think I've EVER refreshed AU recruiting website pages so much! I really think this is a big deal--perhaps one of the most crucial signings we've had in a loooooooong time.

I feel great about next year's roster in every area except QB. Gus's system lives and dies with the QB--heck, even this past season...when Todd was on, we were unstoppable, but when he was off we got killed.

Having a guy 4 years removed from high school, that was Tebow's heir apparent (even garnering glowing reviews from Tebow himself), and the reigning JUCO Nat'l Champion QB is a BIG DEAL. This guy is head and shoulders above anything we have on the roster right now. Rollison is the only guy that is even in the same ballpark, and we don't even have a clue as to when/if we'll ever see him in an AU uni.

Can any of you honestly say that you feel good about the QBs on the roster currently? I mean come on, Chris Todd beat these guys out for the job!

We've established that Kodi is NOT a QB.

Caudle couldn't even get playing time after Todd stunk it up for a couple games straight this season. Total non-factor. If we go into next season with a Sr. QB at the helm, we'll be in this same d@mn place next season, and I'll be absolutely PISSED!

Trotter is the same of what we've always had--a mediocre, undersized option.

Moseley wasn't even in the top 100 rated QBs as a recruit. I know that isn't everything, but come on now...not even the top 100!

Rollison may never suit up. Who knows?

I absolutely shudder at the thought of seeing Trotter or Moseley under center. I just have zero faith in those guys. We need an ATHLETE back there. I'm tired of seeing AU QBs that flat out cannot break a tackle or run the football. Rollison, again, could fit that bill, but is he even an option with the suspension ordeal?

So there, those that think a 6th QB on the roster is stupid, please tell me which guy you would faith in being under center if we don't get Newton?; 1:34 PM
astatguy said...: Caudle and Kodi finished second in a dead heat, but almost too close to call with Todd, and he's a journeyman at best.

Next hoops coach at Auburn - Charles Barkley. We may not win, but nobody would notice. Not like we pay much attention to bball anyway.; 1:34 PM
Unknown said...: You could be right. That is just part of my guessing.; 1:35 PM
Jay 'W. not Tate' said...: ...and sorry about the novel...it didn't seem that long while typing it!!!; 1:35 PM
Unknown said...: I don't think the decision between Todd versus Kodi or Caudle was even close. When I heard Todd was healthy, I was sure he would be the guy. No, that isn't saying how great I thought he was. It was more saying how flawed I felt Kodi and Caudle are.

As for Moseley, don't underestimate him and you cannot go by ratings, especially with kids from small schools.

As for Rollison, he has a lots of hype but as far as actually showing what he can do at the college level, he hasn't. There isn't anything yet to confirm he isn't Kodi 2.0, although there certainly isn't anything to indicate he is either. There just isn't enough info. My only real knock on Rollison would be his size, but he does offset that by being probably the fastest QB we have on the team.

The good part this season is that I think we will have a decision in the spring rather than waiting until August.

If Newton comes, I would guess he would be the guy.

As for if he doesn't, I don't see enough to say whether it would be Rollison or Moseley.; 1:43 PM
Unknown said...: Hahaha, Jay W., you run off at the keyboard like me:) The bottom line is we just don't know and are guessing based upon limited information.; 1:44 PM
WarEagleRK said...: Whatever happened to Jay G. Tate?; 1:46 PM
stupup74 said...: Newton would be a coup, even if he never plays a meaningful down because 5 start QBs bring big time panash to the your class.

Recruiting rankings are propoganda. If you can control the message and then it almost doesn't matter if some of the guys don't ever contribute, as long as you keep the impression your program is 'hot', then you get great players and then eventually win games.; 1:56 PM
Dan Armstrong said...: Has anyone on this blog ever seen Trotter play one down of football? You might want to do so before writing him off.

I have seen him play quite a bit and I think a lot of you are selling him rather short based on zero data. Not saying he'll beat Newton or Rollison out but give the kid a break.; 2:04 PM
Jet said...: Fact is, Big Bird, everyone around here is guessing.

There is little data to analyze. Some are unloading Rollison because he got in trouble. Some aren't buying Trotter because this staff didn't recruit him. Some are unloading Caudle because we're recruiting Newton. Someone said Moseley has thrown the ball well in practice, and he's the guy to watch instead of Rollison.

My sense is this: if we're recruiting Newton, it's for a reason. A very obvious reason that's as plain as the "HOT BOY" tattoo Antoine Carter's face.; 2:09 PM
Peter Frankenschmidt said...: Kodi Train 2010. Jump On!; 2:11 PM
Unknown said...: Big Bird, I haven't really seen Trotter at all. It is just he is behind in terms of speed, size, and experience. He has been described as very accurate and also I saw where he apparently runs the read option well.

As for recruiting, if you put your faith in ratings, you need only look to the NFL to see how wrong evaluations can be. I use to follow the pro draft much more closely and there are teams that seem to always use high draft picks on players who never pan out.

And the thing with college recruiting is that the same people don't evaluate the same players. The teams the players play on are vastly different. In many cases high school player can become stars without putting in the kind of work required for college.

I do believe maturity level is one of the things that makes or breaks a college player. Heck, look at guys like Bates and Marks. They were highly underrated. Look at Ingram, the 3 star running back that won the Heisman. Look at Chris Simms, who was the closest thing to being a total bust and finally developed the head for the game.

The one thing that keeps coming to mind is Eddie and how high he is on Rollison. Eddie isn't your typical arm chair quarterback and certainly is much closer to being in the know than most and he seems to love Rollison.; 2:17 PM
Dan Armstrong said...: Jet:

Point taken.

Obviously the coaches are looking to potentially upgrade but I think I saw more than a few comments like "mediocre" and even "slower than Todd" so had to lob in my $0.02.

Malzahn will sort it out without my input so I'll just trust in him.; 2:17 PM
Peter Frankenschmidt said...: Scottie, thanks for the reminder. "They should file charges against his dead corpse" aside, last week's Hatin' segment was phenomenal.

Jkev is shock jock wannabe. I love it.; 2:18 PM
Peter Frankenschmidt said...: it was so fun to scroll through the first time, I thought I'd add to my personal enjoyment:

§teveFC said...
Big Bird, I haven't really seen Trotter at all. It is just he is behind in terms of speed, size, and experience. He has been described as very accurate and also I saw where he apparently runs the read option well.

As for recruiting, if you put your faith in ratings, you need only look to the NFL to see how wrong evaluations can be. I use to follow the pro draft much more closely and there are teams that seem to always use high draft picks on players who never pan out.

And the thing with college recruiting is that the same people don't evaluate the same players. The teams the players play on are vastly different. In many cases high school player can become stars without putting in the kind of work required for college.

I do believe maturity level is one of the things that makes or breaks a college player. Heck, look at guys like Bates and Marks. They were highly underrated. Look at Ingram, the 3 star running back that won the Heisman. Look at Chris Simms, who was the closest thing to being a total bust and finally developed the head for the game.

The one thing that keeps coming to mind is Eddie and how high he is on Rollison. Eddie isn't your typical arm chair quarterback and certainly is much closer to being in the know than most and he seems to love Rollison.; 2:20 PM
Dan Armstrong said...: Steve:

I understand and we all try to piece together a picture based on bits and pieces and are clouded by our own biases (me included).

We all want the same thing (to win the SEC and beyond) and I really don't have a dog in the fight.

Merry Christmas; 2:23 PM
Unknown said...: I agree Big Bird, and nothing is for certain. Trotter and Rollison have probably had the least exposure so far. We will just have to see what happens.; 2:24 PM
Unknown said...: Man, I just read where two men drowned trying to save their dog. The dog survived.; 2:27 PM
Peter Frankenschmidt said...: survival of the fittest dog.; 2:28 PM
Unknown said...: I am a dog lover myself, so I do understand, but man, how sad.; 2:30 PM
Peter Frankenschmidt said...: schadenfreude is bad, but I laughed really hard when duck hunting was listed as a cause of them being out there to die.; 2:30 PM
Peter Frankenschmidt said...: If my dog, who weighs way less than me, falls through the ice, I'm letting it go. My life is more valuable, and there's a 100% chance I'm falling through if my dog did, which likely will kill me.; 2:34 PM
Dan Armstrong said...: Not to mention that it was probably some sort of retriever bred for the specific purpose of swimming in cold water. Humans, not so much suited for icy waters.; 2:35 PM
Peter Frankenschmidt said...: Humans, not so much suited for icy waters.

Awesome.; 2:38 PM
mytommyd said...: So what does a team do with 5 back up quarterbacks?; 2:42 PM
Peter Frankenschmidt said...: Compete against Ivy League B Teams?; 2:43 PM
Jet said...: TommyD ...

Take a 2 or 3 of them duck hunting in icy conditions.; 2:48 PM
mytommyd said...: You send them off with a former head coach?; 2:50 PM
Norm said...: I see no need for yours truly to ever do anything in icy conditions. Ever.; 2:58 PM
Unknown said...: In terms of Caudle, hopefully we just hand him his diploma. As for Kodi, I really no longer consider him a QB. I do believe a lot of the troubles last season started with the team being fractured over who should be the QB. Malzahn did a much better job of making a decisive decision and I am sure that he will again.; 3:01 PM
Unknown said...: By any chance, are any of the QBs good at long snapping?; 3:03 PM
Wakeriderof87 said...: Thats the main reason I don't hunt... its usually done in the cold. I don't do much in the cold if I can avoid it.

I'm not gonna lie. If my dog was in danger I probably would instantly react to save her. Maybe not thinking it through first.; 3:04 PM
Unknown said...: If I considered hunting a sport it might be different. If ducks ever learn to shoot back, give me a call.; 3:06 PM
Norm said...: The only hunting I've ever done is deer and it was always in Alabama so icy conditions weren't an issue. If the conditions where I live ever become icy, well then I stay home and make do with the beer on hand. If that should run out and it's still icy, I can walk to the nearest beer store.

And Steve, while hunting or in the woods prepping for the upcoming season, I've encountered a variety of creatures that could either kill me or seriously ruin my day. So, like when I'm at home, I'm always well armed in the woods.; 3:16 PM
Unknown said...: Crap!!!! War Eagle Extra is reporting two DUI arrests, John Douglas and Jason King. Looks like Chizik will get a chance to use his kicking game again.; 3:19 PM
Unknown said...: Both of them are fullbacks, which would come into play in terms of replacing Eric Smith. As for King, I don't think he would be playing, but Douglas was likely to get playing time.; 3:22 PM
Tar Heel Tiger said...: This comment has been removed by the author.; 3:24 PM
WarEagleRK said...: Anything related to DUI makes me angry. Nothing like risking everyone on the roads life because you wanted to have fun.; 3:25 PM
Peter Frankenschmidt said...: My brother-in-law and nephew were invited to a hunt at some ranch in Texas last year. They sat in a heated shooting house with recliners, watching over a baited lane that the deer have been trained to use. On nephew's first time he's ever shot a gun, he bagged an enormous eight point. I told him that wasn't hunting, it was killing.

I don't hunt, but I love shooting trap and skeet. The clay's never shot back at me.

I've also never had a golf course try and hurt me...well, except for that time I almost got to feel the teeth of an small alligator.; 3:26 PM
Unknown said...: Agreed RK. I don't have much tolerance for DUIs.; 3:27 PM
Peter Frankenschmidt said...: can we get more of a hint than "many of you may have heard of?"; 3:28 PM
Peter Frankenschmidt said...: my stance on DUI's. It's very stupid, but people make mistakes (some with potential to be more costly than others). Everyone deserves a second chance to be responsible. I've known too many good people who would never intentionally hurt anyone make that mistake before to think they should be strung up at first dawn.; 3:32 PM
Peter Frankenschmidt said...: you're not at Butner, are you?; 3:33 PM
Unknown said...: Skeet shooting is something I liked okay. It is challenging.

Sitting in a shed shooting dear that have been baited to come out just seems ridiculous. Why not just go find some cows in a field and shoot a few. It would be just about as challenging.; 3:34 PM
Tar Heel Tiger said...: This comment has been removed by the author.; 3:34 PM
Unknown said...: Douglas and King have been around long enough to know better.; 3:35 PM
Dan Armstrong said...: As a seldom used player on a team with 8-9 slots that need to be "created", getting a DUI is akin to natural selection. Now only 6-7 scholarship players will need to find a new home.; 3:35 PM
Peter Frankenschmidt said...: I see.; 3:36 PM
wtc said...: THT-Was it the person that was mentioend in our walk to Cincy's place at the last game. famous guy.; 3:37 PM
Tar Heel Tiger said...: This comment has been removed by the author.; 3:37 PM
Peter Frankenschmidt said...: This comment has been removed by the author.; 3:38 PM
Unknown said...: I think qualifies as a never used player. I don't recall him ever playing. Douglas has contributed, but not as much as what I thought he would from reading early on.; 3:39 PM
Peter Frankenschmidt said...: This comment has been removed by the author.; 3:40 PM
wtc said...: Both palyed on special teams mainly. Douglas is a scholly player. The other kid is a walk on. They were two separate incidents.; 3:41 PM
Unknown said...: Apparently both players contributed on special teams this season, although special seems like the wrong word.; 3:42 PM
wtc said...: I would assume neither will make the trip to Tampa now. Chizik will probably address the matter after practice today.; 3:42 PM
Tar Heel Tiger said...: btw, King is (was?) a walk-on, so it doesn't factor into the "natural selection" process.; 3:42 PM
Unknown said...: It will be interesting to see what Chiz has to say after practice. It may be that they are given the opportunity to become good Auburn men. I don't recall either getting in trouble in the past.; 3:44 PM
Unknown said...: wtc, I think it safe to say that both will get to watch the Outback Bowl on TV.; 3:44 PM
wtc said...: If he looses his scholarship, it doesn't mean we can replace him this coming year. Each team is allowed 25 per year but only 85 total. If you do the math, that is about 4 per year not making it all the way through to graduation as a scholly player. AU just has to do better than losing 4 per year average)to get to 85 in the years to come. This and Hawthorne leaving early makes it harder to get to 85 sooner.; 3:45 PM
Unknown said...: And having playing on special teams this season isn't exactly something I would consider a highlight on a resume.; 3:46 PM
Norm said...: PF - you're right, that isn't hunting. Why in the world Texas allows you to hunt over a baited field I don't know. It's illegal anywhere I've ever hunted. These days, when I hunt, there's no food involved at all. I have a portable stand I carry in with me like a backpack and set up deep in the woods at a location based on my knowledge and prior scouting of said woods for likely best sites. So, by my way of thinking, that is indeed hunting. And for what it's worth, anything I've ever killed has been eaten either by me or friends or by people who benefited from a venison donation.

Also, I've encountered a number of poisonous snakes and a couple of alligators on golf courses. Two snakes were dispatched to where they belong and the alligators were given a wide berth and we each carded a Birdie.; 3:46 PM
wtc said...: steve-they will be home for christmas.; 3:46 PM
Peter Frankenschmidt said...: I'd be really bummed to not get to go to the bowl game. $500 of schwag lost.; 3:48 PM
Unknown said...: wtc, I don't think we lost a lot of player to graduation, so I don't think it will take long to get to 85. I do think experience will be an issue. This season we gave experience to people that are not likely to be involved next season. I am expecting to see a lot of the newcomers at least contribute on special teams.; 3:48 PM
Unknown said...: $500 in bowl gifts, plus I think that the university can give the players up to about $350 for going to the bowl. That is something I had never heard of before but read recently. I don't remember the exact amount.; 3:50 PM
Scott M. Brannan said...: PF, after listening to the podcast of the HATE segment i guess i'm one of the guys that JG makes fun of. i wear jerseys to games. oh, well.; 3:53 PM
Tar Heel Tiger said...: someone posting on al.com/auburnfootball (not blocked in prison as is habotn) apparently did some math. Their statement, not verified by me:
If we add 5 to '09 and bring in a full 25 for '10, and assuming no losses of current scholarship players other than seniors with no more eligibility, we would be 9 over the limit. It really does seem as though we are shooting for the 5/25 target, so we may need a few more non-contributors to get in trouble. ;-); 3:53 PM
Unknown said...: Is Northwestern a poor matchup for us defensively? I have heard they play a lot of receivers and five wide. I like our corners and the safeties to some degree, but it seems like they may overwhelm our secondary with numbers.; 3:53 PM
Dan Armstrong said...: Seldom used, never used: those who make minor or no real contributions by any other name. My point is that in this environment (our need to make room combined with Chizik's intolerance of nonsense) you might not want to stick your neck out by doing something dumb like gettting a DUI, scholly or no.; 3:54 PM
Unknown said...: THT, that is kind of what I was expecting. Anyone want to go buy a few QBs some drinks?; 3:55 PM
Peter Frankenschmidt said...: Scottie,

I have been very vocal in the past that I am against your habit, but your jerseys are pretty sweet and look good on you, so you get a pass in my book.; 3:55 PM
Tar Heel Tiger said...: actually, to be more accurate, that's their math stuck into my statement.; 3:55 PM
Unknown said...: Big Bird, I don't think Chizik will take into account if they are needed or not. The three players he got rid of last summer would have really helped the depth issues. Regardless, I don't care who it is, the rules are the rules. If it were Darvin Adams and Ben Tate in the same situation, they should get the same punishment.; 3:57 PM
Unknown said...: U.S. soldiers in Iraq could face courts-martial for getting pregnant.; 4:00 PM
Dan Armstrong said...: I agree that Chiz didn't go easy on guys we needed so that makes these guys even dumber.

Some will be medical, some academic and some will be let go for just being an easy target.

Does anyone use Firefox? I used Google Chrome and liked it for a while but it kept crashing so I am looking for another browser.; 4:06 PM
Tar Heel Tiger said...: I use Chrome on a PC. On Mac, I use Safari for Habotn and Firefox for most everything else.; 4:09 PM
Tar Heel Tiger said...: Scout shows OT Shon Coleman from Olive Branch, MS now as a "soft verbal." I know D.J. Howard has been listed that way, but isn't this new for Coleman. What's the scoop? I'll take opinions from those who don't follow recruiting.; 4:10 PM
Norm said...: Chrome with no issues in the several months I've been using it.; 4:10 PM
Peter Frankenschmidt said...: I use Firefox on my Mac. I'm thinking the Safari may be better, though.

I still have problems with Chrome. Too many pages not loading right (supersport930.com, for one). I use it on the shared laptop so I don't have to log my fiance out and log myself in every time I access my email. I've switched to Internet Explorer 8 on my traveling laptop. As much as I hate to admit it, it's the best thing available for me right now. Firefox is too heavy, Chrome is too light, and IE8 is just right, Goldilocks style.; 4:15 PM
Unknown said...: I only use firefox and like it.; 4:20 PM
Tar Heel Tiger said...: only reason I prefer Safari on mac for habotn is that I don't have to scroll when I refresh.

Otherwise, too many web sites don't work well on Safari, but work fine with Firefox, even though I use all the recommended java settings in safari.; 4:20 PM
Unknown said...: By the way, I use Firefox on linux based systems and on Windows XP.; 4:21 PM
Scott Chocolate said...: Boy, am I ever stinking up the HABOTN Bowl Pick'em. I'm 0 for 3 so far. Fortunately, 2 of them were low confidence point picks. Fresno State losing hurt, though.; 4:24 PM
Peter Frankenschmidt said...: what linux client do you use?; 4:25 PM
Peter Frankenschmidt said...: I've gotten zero out of 9 possible points so far. Still in the game!; 4:26 PM
Unknown said...: Scott C, I don't mean to brag, but I bet I am sucking worse than you. One of my losses was for 33 confidence points. I didn't spend as much time with the bowls as I did with the regular season, but I don't believe I would have changed the 3 bad picks I have already made.; 4:27 PM
Unknown said...: PF, for home I am running Fedora 12, but at work I have numberous system with different flavors of linux primarily used for testing.; 4:28 PM
Scott Chocolate said...: Unfortunately, Fresno State cost me 24 points. The other two only cost me 5, combined.; 4:28 PM
Unknown said...: Fresno State is the one that cost me 33. I didn't see that coming at all. Southern Miss cost me 19. UCF cost me 3. The Rutgers win wasn't a total shock, but the other two really surprised me.; 4:32 PM
Tar Heel Tiger said...: SteveFC - you should have asked me; I could have told you the Cowboys would win. I wouldn't have done you any good on the UCF game, though.; 4:35 PM
Tar Heel Tiger said...: i'm not participating in pick'em btw. I didn't understand how it works, AT ALL.; 4:35 PM
Unknown said...: I think I assumed too much with Wyoming and I had seen Fresno State play earlier. That Wyoming QB was very impressive and I think he was a freshman.; 4:38 PM
Tar Heel Tiger said...: were you supposed to rank the games according to how confident you were in your pick? And were your picks supposed to be based on the spread? Or is the spread irrelevant?

Contrary to previous news reports, I do have a life, and it doesn't include the time it would take for me to rank 400 bowl games. But my 2 most confidant picks would have been 1. Texas and 2. Wyoming.; 4:39 PM
Unknown said...: I didn't like the way the points worked and frankly didn't want to spend a lot of time on it. Using spreads is much easier for me.; 4:40 PM
Unknown said...: THT, we are not using the spread at all and yes, you were suppose to assign confidence points from 1 to 34 for each game. It was just a bit too much for me to spend a lot of time on.; 4:41 PM
Norm said...: Well, I'm 3 for 3 in the contest but I did nothing with the Confidence Points. Good thing this is a freebie.; 4:42 PM
Unknown said...: By the way, the points thing might work better with fewer games. It is just a lot to adjust.; 4:42 PM
Tar Heel Tiger said...: how have we made it 3/4 through Puppet Hour with no Michael or Harrison sightings?

Re: may Shon Coleman related post at 4:10 PM, anyone got news?; 4:43 PM
Spongeworthy said...: Hotties. I've been reading all the posts about QB's. Here is my take, for what it's worth...nothing..

Newton. If they sign him, chiz is making it clear they want to win NOW, not later, and they hope to limit the pain of the learning curve for a RS Freshman qb. Doesn't necessarily mean they don't have confidence that Rollison or Mosely, or Trotter can be a good qb.

Trotter. He looked very good in the spring until he hurt his knee. He is NOT slow. Is he FAH, no, but not slow, at least before the knee injury. He has a LOT of success running in his spread offense at Briarwood C in HS. Don't be surprised if he makes a run at the job.

Rollison. Got a lot of praise early as a freshman, and didn't run the scout team, so coaches saw more in him than Mosely. I think he give Malzahn the "run" option in his offense. Good arm as well. IMHO, if they don't sign Newton, it comes down to him or Trotter.

Mosely.. Got a lot a praise for running the scout team. And he should have. Is the most behind in the offense cause he hasn't run it. Big kid w/ good arm, but you lose the "run" option in Malahan's offense. I think he is the fall back guy.

Caudle. I think coaches have seen his body of work. Admire him, but don't see him taking the field, especially since the red shirt has been used already for Mosely, Trotter, and Rollison.

Just my opinion. It will be interesting to see what happens.; 4:43 PM
michael said...: PUPPET HOUR!!!!! AAAAHHHH!!!!!; 4:45 PM
Tar Heel Tiger said...: well, it's about time!; 4:46 PM
Unknown said...: I have been seeing Coleman as a soft verbal for a while. I am not sure what to make of it. These kids don't appear to know what commitment means. I take his commitment as a firm maybe.; 4:47 PM
michael said...: There have been some issues with my goats, THT. Let's just say it involves 300 lbs of TNT and a dead president. Don't ask me about my business.; 4:47 PM
Spongeworthy said...: I see where Ken adams visited LSU. Don't think he made his grades so he couldn't enroll this December. Old news I think, but not in AU's plans is he?; 4:48 PM
Peter Frankenschmidt said...: People all over the world join hands

Start a Kodi train, Kodi train

People all over the world join hands

Start a Kodi train , Kodi train

The next stop that we make will be soon

Tell all the folks in Georgia, and Mississippi, too

Don't you know that it's time to get on board and let this train keep on riding, riding on through; 4:48 PM
Tar Heel Tiger said...: Kristina - I need some help here.; 4:49 PM
Peter Frankenschmidt said...: Guys. Kodi is 2010. This is his year.; 4:49 PM
Spongeworthy said...: Steve. I was always unsure of Coleman, but when he went to UA and them promply re-affirmed his commitment to AU, I felt better. i think Ole Miss making a run.; 4:49 PM
michael said...: Kodi train? I leave for a week and a half and PF starts a Kodi train? As Verne would say, "HOW...DO...YOU DO?!?!"; 4:50 PM
Tar Heel Tiger said...: AUndercover says:
"Auburn has narrowed its focus at running back. Who do Tigers coaches want to join commitment Michael Dyer? "

SInce I dont subscribe, I'll just have to guess and say Lattimore.

Seastrunk to the Ducks, perhaps?; 4:50 PM
michael said...: Are you just naming random hotties now hoping they show up, THT? Kind of like a Puppet Hour Bat Signal?; 4:51 PM
Unknown said...: Agree with most of your thoughts, Sponge. I would give Moseley a bit more of a chance and Trotter a bit less. As for Newton reflecting on the other QBs, I think it is only on Caudle. I agree that they aren't anxious to play an inexperienced QB.; 4:51 PM
Peter Frankenschmidt said...: By "presidents," Michael does not mean the Presidents of the United States of America. He likes peaches.; 4:51 PM
Tar Heel Tiger said...: yep, Sponge, if they're real serious about Newton, they can't sign Adams, at least not to the '09 class. Of course, if he didn't successfully finish school this semester, it's a moot point.; 4:52 PM
Spongeworthy said...: What is the record for the number of players any div I college coach has kicked off the team. Chiz may very well become #1 in something soon.; 4:52 PM
Unknown said...: I wonder if the USC belly flop could cause Seastrunk to become a duck. At one point I read where he was likely USCw bound.; 4:52 PM
Tar Heel Tiger said...: paulmain, where are you?; 4:53 PM
michael said...: If Seastrunk becomes a duck, his recruiting value will go down greatly. Unless, that is, he commits to UT, at which point he will gain a 6th star.; 4:54 PM
michael said...: Or Alabama or Florida or USC; 4:54 PM
Spongeworthy said...: Tar, it's Lattimore all the way. Dyer was first on the list, Lattimore was second, Seastrunk third. I wonder if our push for Lattimore has "pushed" Seastrunk out of the picture. And I wonder who we will get if we don't get either?; 4:55 PM
Unknown said...: Don't faint, but I just read where the Chiz says that Douglas and King won't be headed to Tampa. You got to love Chizik's up tempo discipline. He doesn't take long.; 4:55 PM
Spongeworthy said...: In any event, I don't see us in the Seastrunk picture anymore.; 4:56 PM
Spongeworthy said...: Also, Lebo sucks. Ignore the fact that I've always said he can coach. That was a mirage...didn't happen.. Part of coaching is getting the DUDES, man, and keeping them.; 4:57 PM
Peter Frankenschmidt said...: 2010; 5:00 PM
Peter Frankenschmidt said...: By read, he means that Goldberg, Gribble, Woodbery, and others reported it already, and Jay G will have a thread up soon stating it, too.; 5:05 PM
michael said...: I am trying out google chrome, and it is telling me that I misspell every single word. It is screaming at me with its red squigglies. It is definitely the web browser most similar to my wife.; 5:05 PM
michael said...: I read where PF started the 4th annual Kodi Burns Bandwagon.; 5:06 PM
Peter Frankenschmidt said...: your wife screams in red squiggles? I love her. Please let me have her.; 5:07 PM
Peter Frankenschmidt said...: They say third time's a charm. Not always true. When someone becomes a man after the third time and spreads unity among the family/world, the Fourth Time is actually charmed.; 5:10 PM
michael said...: PF, this is 2009, I can't just give you my wife without her consent. I will talk to her, OK?; 5:10 PM
Peter Frankenschmidt said...: If Jay G does post about the suspensions, I wonder if the headline will read "Some Dudes Not Going to Outback Bowl."; 5:11 PM
Norm said...: PF - I've never met Michael's wife if she in fact exists in the real world, but I assure you, you DO NOT want two wives. You'll have to make a choice between the supposed Mrs. Michael and your betrothed.; 5:12 PM
Peter Frankenschmidt said...: Michael's wife doesn't even use real words, just red squiggles. I think I can deal with a talking wife and squiggling wife. If not, I'll put them in the Thunderdome and let nature make its choice.; 5:14 PM
michael said...: If I had to bet some money, I would say the headline is "EXTRA~! EXTRA! READ ALL ABOUT IT! SOME GUYS AREN'T GOING TO THE OUTBACK BOWL! ALSO, THE NERD FROM CLUELESS PASSED AWAY!"

I have to warn you others though before you take my advice: I have lost a ton of money trying to guess headlines.; 5:14 PM
Tar Heel Tiger said...: Frankenschmidt sounds like a good Mormon name.; 5:15 PM
michael said...: My mormon name is Dakota Merritt. No wait, that is my pornstar name. Wait, I think I need to look at that chain facebook note again.; 5:19 PM
Tar Heel Tiger said...: This you knows. The years travel fast.

And time after time
I've done the Tell.

But this ain 't one body's Tell.
It's the Tell of us all.

And you got to listen it and 'member.

'Cause what you hears today,
you got to tell the newborn tomorrow.

I's looking behind us now,
into history back.; 5:21 PM
michael said...: Wow THT, quoting Shakespeare on the HABOTN? Mr Fancy Pants!; 5:22 PM
Peter Frankenschmidt said...: Beyond Thunderdome? Nah, see, the wife's haven't gotten out of hand yet. Thunderdome is still to come.; 5:24 PM
Tar Heel Tiger said...: yep, I was quoting Savannah Nix, as played by Helen Buday.; 5:25 PM
michael said...: Helen Squirty-Toilet?; 5:26 PM
Tar Heel Tiger said...: no, she's shakes her Buday.; 5:28 PM
Tar Heel Tiger said...: I'm ready to get signing day over with and get on to spring practice. Maybe congress can throw that into the health care bill.... NSD=New Year's Eve.; 5:29 PM
Tar Heel Tiger said...: This Pox-Eclipse happened, and it's
finished. It isn't there anymore.; 5:35 PM
Jay G. Tate said...: New thread UPZ.; 5:38 PM

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