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Interesting look at Auburn's first few drives

I was just going through some parts of the Vanderbilt game and saw something interesting.

I didn't realize Auburn's first three plays of the game -- the ones that gained 10+ yards each -- were the exact same call.

Here is the breakdown:


Ace base (50/68 pull) R. 44. FIRST DOWN
Ace base (50/68 pull) R. 44. FIRST DOWN
Ace base (50/68 pull) R. 44. FIRST DOWN
Shot read (71/57 pull) R. (44) Chris Todd fumbled the snap
Shot read L. 27.
Shot read L. 44. FIRST DOWN
Shot read L/C. 44.
Ace +1R (9 as lead blocker) C/R. 44.
Ace +1R (9 as lead blocker) C/R. 44.
Ace +1L (9 as lead blocker) L. 44. Stuffed on fourth down at the 1.

Ace base (71/57 pull) L. 1. FIRST DOWN
Shot read L. 1.
Shot 5 wide. Todd scrambles. FIRST DOWN
Shot read R. 44. (75 missed his block badly)
Shot screen L. 80.
Shot read (71/57 pull) L. 44. FIRST DOWN
Shot read L. 9. (13 in motion L to R)
Shot rollout R. 13 incomplete.
Shot 5 wide C. 80. TOUCHDOWN (5 was the intended receiver)

Shot read (71/57 pull) L. 44.
Shot 5 wide. 27. TOUCHDOWN (27 beats OLB on a go route)

Ace +1L. C/R. 44.
Shot 5 wide. Rollout R to 5 complete. FIRST DOWN (27 in motion R to L)
Shot read (73/71 pull) R. 44.
Shot read R. 44. FIRST DOWN
Ace +1L. R. 44.
Ace +1L. Pass. Todd fumbles. Big loss.
Shot read (50 pull) L. 44. Big gain.

... so that's four Ace base runs and four gains of at least 10 yards.


Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yep. Same play each time. Knew that watching. Poor play calling once first and goal.

9:56 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Shouldn't #27 or #44 be the lead blocker on those last few plays?

10:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ace of Base. My favorite high school band.

10:11 AM  
Blogger Jay G. Tate said...

Don't turn around ... cause you're going to see my heart break now ...

10:14 AM  
Blogger ADP said...

Dance with who brung you
Swing with who swung you
Dance with who brung you to the bash.

10:26 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

All that she wants is another baby...

10:28 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


I enjoy your blog although I'm an Alabama fan. Why don't you show some of our beat writers how to create something like you have here? Good stuff!

10:33 AM  
Blogger AUnMobilz (CAM-"Da Man") said...

You hit the nail on the HEAD!!!! this is why i asked if why we got away from the Ace formation!!!!

We could have had Six different different plays from the Ace and it is simple to run Ace L or R and naked boot leg off the fake L or R to the TE or 10-15 yrd comeback to the WR L or R this could have been put in last week adn not much problem for pratice time!!!!

10:39 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is why it is frustrating we lost the game. We had the answer & results w/ ACE and GOT AWAY FROM IT!

10:48 AM  
Blogger Jay G. Tate said...

ANUn:I haven't worked through the whole game, but it looks like they had maybe four plays off that Ace formation.

I bet that took all week to install.

fake steve: Thanks for your support of the HABOTN. Don't you think Ian's blog is good?

10:50 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

fake steve, are you saying you don't appreciate Ian's creative blogging?

10:50 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I understand Fake Steve's post. I like this one becaue I don't like all the cutesie tootsie wanna be humorous stuff from others I won't name that cover Auburn and a couple that cover Alabama.

I can't spend time reading the Blue Plate, etc. I'll remain anonymous on this one.

10:55 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

JayG, I rewatched the game and they did try it some on the 4th drive, but the yards were getting harder to come by, so CTF went more to the spread. I think CTF sometimes during the 2nd half felt like he HAD to show them that the spread could work (and it didn't). I'm sure he hates it when he sees the Ace package working and his plays not.

11:02 AM  
Blogger Jay G. Tate said...

I think you're right about that.

If ace works better than shot, Franklin has a major philiosophical problem.

ps: We love Goldberg here.

11:05 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

of course you do

11:09 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Is this some sort of abstention that we move it all to a formation where we only have 2 plays? And do we think that's going to fool anybody? Of course it worked 3 plays in a row. It's what we used to do, what we know how to do, and we haven't done it on film this year. But it's not going to fool anybody. Auburn's as easy as pie to defend right now. Stack the box. Oldes trick in the books.

11:13 AM  
Blogger Jay G. Tate said...

I thought that's what Kodi Burns was for.

11:17 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Jay, that would make sense. You know that doesn't quite cut it "here in Auburn."

"We're doing it our way 'here in Auburn' and we're getting better and better."

11:20 AM  
Blogger Jim in Scranton said...

Tuberville yesterday:

"Sometimes people will say, why don't you go back to doing what you did?' Well, if you do that, then you are asking for major disaster."

Does he mean it hasn't been a major disaster yet? I think my definition of a major disaster and CTT's are a little different. Maybe I'm the only one that thinks scoring 5 TD's in 4 SEC games is a disaster. Maybe I'm the only one that thinks losing to freakin' Vandy is a disaster.

12:11 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I think the answer to why they went away from the Ace is pointed out in the breakdown. 10 Ace plays with 9 being running plays. The lone Pass was fumbled. If a Q.B. throws exclusively from the gun it's nearly impossible to learn the 5 to 7 step drop in a week. In the same way Todd is not a threat to run from the gun he's not a threat to pass from the Ace.

That was the big knock on Colt Brennan in last years NFL draft, he played in the shotgun and couldn't get the drop correct.

12:11 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

But how hard is it to install a play action rollout from the ace formation? No 5 to 7 step drop needed, simply roll out and hit the TE coming across the middle or a WR on an out route.

Honest question: How hard is it to install one play? Maybe I'm oversimplifying things here, but it seems like we could have one play "set" where it's the ace formation, play action bootleg and the receivers may have one or two routes to run. Honestly, how long would that take to install? an hour? A week? I really dont know.

12:40 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

did you scarbinsky's article in the Bham news? basiscally had barrett trotters coach saying he loves the spread and it works, and that auburn is not running it right now and that burns and todd are doing terrible jobs of running. He also goes onto say that in time it will work. I have a feeling the spread is here to say. I am going to be all worked up again this week, travel to game and see the same the past 6 weeks...who is in i had to read that the Old Franklin was out here comes Old Tony, it takes 2 losses for us to get Old Tony...i feel like I am sucked into a pyramid scheme, who wants Amway..

12:46 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Jay G,

Have you ever seen Franklin and the other offensive coaches (the ones that have been there 10 years)in the same room studying film together as a unit? Not those Sunday meetings with Tubs but after a fall practice or even the summer time? Sources are saying that is the problem. THEY DON'T.

12:56 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Damn amway got me when I was 18, just a dumb freshmen at auburn trying to make a buck. Miss those days.

War damn eagle guys

12:58 PM  
Blogger Jay G. Tate said...

They were meeting yesterday as a group. I went by to talk with one of those offensive assistants and he was in a closed-door session with The Other Guys.

So, yea, they talk.

I don't think they're rolling in the same Call of Duty clan, if that's what you mean.

1:14 PM  
Blogger AUnMobilz (CAM-"Da Man") said...

this is exactly what i am asking!!!
it should not be this damn hard, so they told us he has only a few plays adn its not that complicated.

1:47 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


How do we get it back to good?

It's best if we keep this under our heads in spite of the dictatorship northwest bound.

We'll figure out just what we're going to do soon enough. Don't hate everyone else for doing exactly like you do.

Na uh uh

1:52 PM  
Blogger ADP said...

Amway ... oh man that is great stuff. THIS IS like Amway. You CAN be wealthy and successful. You've just gotta BELIEVE that you can be RICH like me.

The spread CAN work. You just gotta BELIEVE!

1:54 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

We're not crazy we're just a little unwell.stay around and maybe you'll see a different side of Auburn offense. Right now you don care. But soon enough you'll think of Auburn in how it used to be.

Tomorrow might be good for something.

Have Faith.

1:57 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Phred, these are hard times. We don't feel so alive. All we need is some relief through these hard times.

Move your hands in circles and keep yourself hypnotized. CTF is the power behind your eyes.

Keep holding on...

2:00 PM  
Blogger Scott M. Brannan said...

Rob, i love your music.

i think you've "got a disease".

what do you think about this weekend's offense? "let's see how far we've come." should be interesting.

2:05 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ian's is ok. His is probably the best of the Bama bunch. However, his gets a little too silly at times. I much prefer the format of this one.

2:12 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Now on to football. I must admit that I was very surprised that Tuberville went to the spread last year. I could understand dumping Borges, but to go to the spread is so out of character for Tuberville, IMO. Especially when you consider the fact that Tuberville has owned spread teams in the past.

That said, I think that Auburn has to stick with it at this point, and it looks like they will for the time being. They have a ton of recruits that are geared toward the spread. Oftentimes those type of recruits don't fit into a smash mouth type system. The OL's tend to be a little smaller and much more quick. Same for the RB's. To turn away now would be difficult from a recruiting standpoint.

2:20 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

CTF has these things to say...

"I don't know if I've ever been good enough. Im a little bit rusty, and I think my head is caving in. And I dont know if Ive ever really been loved by the hand that's touched me. And I feel like something's gonna give. And Im a little bit angry.

"I thought to myself, 'This aint over, no not here'. So I decided to stand in for Greg Knox to ensure these WRs knew what the hell they were doing. Then I stood in here Ensminger and Nall. I did it all myself. I figure, sh*t, I like my $300K salary."

2:22 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

something is brewing on the PF show....anyone know anything?

2:31 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Lovejoy (GA) Lovejoy

Fannin is officially a tailback agian.

High school senior, Mario Fannin- Rivals 4 star/top 250 player

Ht: 5-foot-11
Wt: 204 lbs
Forty: 4.44 secs
Bench max: 305 pounds
Bench reps: 16
Squat max: 425 pounds
Vertical: 33 inches
GPA: 2.9
Class: 2006 (High School)

2:32 PM  
Blogger Scott M. Brannan said...

i see that. nice.

"That's something I came here for -- to run the ball," Fannin said. (per Rivals)

2:36 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Wow. Franklin has been fired according to the Opelika-Auburn News.

2:48 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Jay G,

A lot of rumors circulating all of a sudden.. CTF still there??

2:48 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

other big name players from that class...

4 star Terrell Zachary- really unused, great athlete, give him the ball!

4 star Ben Tate- ended up being a bruiser with short range speed

4 star Craig Stevens- budding player, potentially an NFL prospect some day

4 star Chris Slaugher- primadonna, can't put the entire job together yet

4 star Bryant Miller- gone, not on team

4 star Tim Hawthorne- still waiting...

4 star Raven Gray- injured

4 star Mike Goggans- so so/useful DE now

4 star Bart Eddins- budding player/4 stars though?

4 star Neil Caudle- big time bust

4 star Mike Berry- ???

4 star JeMarcus "Now Jake" Ricks- budding player, may be big time soon

2:49 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


2:53 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If Franklin's gone, Tubs needs to be fired.

2:53 PM  
Blogger Scott M. Brannan said...

oh my, here's the link:

Franklin fired?????

2:54 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is a terrible PR move on Auburn's part. This is not good for Auburn at all!

2:56 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Franklin Fired

2:57 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

How long will it take to recover from this fiasco

2:58 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

yup...i dont know if it's a bad thing or a good thing.

2:58 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Franklin Fired. Be prepared to not many of the remaining games. Also, say good bye to his BFF Chris Todd.

2:59 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Jay we are dying for answers - where you be?

3:07 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This might be bad. Mark my words, if we lose Saturday Tuberville might not be our head coach next week.

3:07 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

As soon as the financial crisis calms down, I'll get this mess straightened out boys.

3:11 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Franklin out as Auburn's offensisve coordinator
Posted by Charles Goldberg, Birmingham News October 08, 2008 3:01 PM
Categories: Football
Auburn offensive coordinator Tony Franklin was relieved of his duties Wednesday halfway through his first season of directing a spread offense that never caught fire.

Head coach Tommy Tuberville will meet with his team at 3:30 to tell them of the dismissal.

Tuberville said he will take a bigger role in plotting the course of the offense. Tuberville said he'll decide in the next day or so who will call the plays in Saturday's game against Arkansas.

Auburn is 104th in the nation in total offense.

3:13 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Tuberville said he will take a bigger role in plotting the course of the offense."

We are doomed.

3:16 PM  
Blogger ron mexico said...

so i get home from work and start reading today's comments. It starts off with ace of base, then onto rob thomas and finish them up with franklin's fired with no warning on the main page of the blog... what a weird day

3:18 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Nall ball

3:18 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Fire Tubs!!!!!!!

3:23 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

what's the worst that can happen without Franklin there? We're already 104 in offense and there are only 119 teams. So we drop fifteen spots. No biggie.

Wlcome back Nallsminger! You knew you'd get your chance if you waited around long enough!!

3:23 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

can I have the last six months of my life back?

3:23 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

We only run five plays out of three formations anyway. It's basically like calling plays in old school Tecmo Bowl. Cant be that hard, right? Uhh, right?

3:24 PM  
Blogger Scott M. Brannan said...

can't wait to hear an explanation for this one.

so yesterday CTF is out running routes all fired up, then 24 hrs. later he's out?

must've been a helluva fight.

3:26 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

And just a hunch, but Jay probly wont be in for an update anytime soon. He's probly knee deep in the drama right now, notepad and camera in hand.

3:26 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey Franklin, welcome back to the SEC.

Oh, FYI, this aint Kentucky.

3:27 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Jay's twitter said he is working on what you need to know right now.

3:29 PM  
Blogger Scott M. Brannan said...

well, so much for Wed. and Thurs. being slow news days on the HABOTN this week, eh?

absolute craziness.

3:35 PM  
Blogger ADP said...

I'm sorry ... but my heart kinda hurts for this guy.

3:41 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


I'm with you ...the last couple of weeks were painful. I mean how did tubs get past the first conversation with this guy? They are total opposites in offesnive theory.

3:47 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Call me crazy but I'm disappointed in Auburn. We fire an offensive coordinator after 6 games for losing 2? We don't give the guy even a full year before we judge how bad he is? From the way Franklin talked during his short tenure, he wasn't even given the same freedoms he was allowed at Troy where his offense did work after a full season. Auburn seems to be back to acting the same way they did during Jet Gate. I would have much rather seen the ship sink with the hired guns in place than to blame a seemingly inevitable failure of a season on an offensive coordinator half way through the season. It appears as though Tubbs has already sealed himself the perfect excuse for a failure of a season.

3:48 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


I completely agree.

Auburn was Franklin's big chance to prove himself. Who would've ever guessed his BEST game would've been his first?

I seriously doubt Tuberville's inner circle EVER made it easy on him. I sincerely hope Coach Franklin gets a fair shot (can hire all of his own position coaches) at another school.

Best wishes to CTF.

Now lets run the football, play defense, and knock HELL out of folks.


3:52 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

and BTW,

this obviously had something to do other than on the field performance

3:54 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

one of two things will happen.

1) The team will rally and have a solid run 4-2, 5-1.

2) Total chaos 1-5, 2-4....multiple transfers

3:57 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

scottatl said:

one of two things will happen.

1) The team will rally and have a solid run 4-2, 5-1.

2) Total chaos 1-5, 2-4....multiple transfers

Hope for #1, brace yourself for #2.

4:06 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

In either senario lots of Jack and Sprite will be going down.

4:10 PM  

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