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11.29.2008

Fourth quarter, Ala leads 29-0

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Blogger Mark said...

well, they just put their 4th string RB in. Guess they are calling off the dogs.

5:36 PM  
Blogger Cotton HATIN BAMA said...

so, guys, who is the first game against next year?

5:37 PM  
Blogger Mr. Sensible said...

29-0 will do it, I suppose.

5:37 PM  
Blogger eddie4au- LOATHES BAMA said...

They will score again. Just wait.

5:38 PM  
Blogger Bear82 said...

is Grant imitating us? That's not funny...

5:38 PM  
Blogger WarEagleRK said...

West Virginia is the 1st game of the year.

5:38 PM  
Blogger Mr. Sensible said...

I didn't know Tez had a 4.0.

Good stuff.

5:39 PM  
Blogger Cotton HATIN BAMA said...

going for it on 4th?

5:41 PM  
Blogger Mr. Sensible said...

Have they started up Rammer Jammer yet, Jay G?

5:41 PM  
Blogger eddie4au- LOATHES BAMA said...

Wonder if our 1st team offense can score on their 2nd team defense.

5:41 PM  
Blogger Roman said...

What about the 4 coaching changes before they landed on Saban?

What about 'em? Are you satisfied with mediocrity? AU under Tuberville is an underachieving program in decline. WHAT IT IS WITH YOU PEOPLE?

Bama has been subpar for years. Now they aren't. AU has how many SECCG appearances (not to mention trophies) under Tubs? Thats right. Two appearance. One SECCG championship. And since 2004...nothing but rolling (at an ever increasing rate) downhill.

Tubs couldn't even bring himself to step in and demand that the offensive staff give the starting nod to a future NFL first round draft pick at QB i n 2003. (Quote: If I wanted to run a high school offense, I'd start Jason Campnbell.) Against UGA this year, Fannin gets hot, scores both offensive TD's...and then sits with the game on the line? Are you kidding me?

Tommy Tuberville needs to cash his lotto ticket and leave. Do people here realize just how much 6 million dollars is? If you make 50 grand a year, you'd have to work 120 YEARS to make 6 mil. Feel bad for Tubs? NOT!

5:41 PM  
Blogger eddie4au- LOATHES BAMA said...

Dubose has as many SEC Championships as Tubs.

5:42 PM  
Blogger Reynolds said...

Guys..

We have less than 7 minutes left in our season.

It has been wonderful getting to know many of you this year.

You all have been THE BRIGHT SPOT in this dreadful time of Auburn football.

Jay..thanks for making it all possible.

War Eagle.

5:42 PM  
Blogger Roman said...

Dubose has as many SEC Championships as Tubs.

EXACTLY!

5:43 PM  
Blogger Mark said...

and dubose's came over CTT

5:43 PM  
Blogger Mr. Sensible said...

War Eagle Reynolds.

5:43 PM  
Blogger Bear82 said...

Roman, I completely agree. 6 million, take away 2 for taxes= 4 million. at 4% interest, is like 160K/year in interest only. i think i could manage.

5:43 PM  
Blogger Mark said...

mario hurt? should have been swinton's ball

5:44 PM  
Blogger Bear82 said...

not getting that fumble--- desire. UAT has it, we don't. sums up the WHOLE DANG season.

5:45 PM  
Blogger eddie4au- LOATHES BAMA said...

I agree Reynolds. The HABOTN Nation is the bright spot of this whole season. The only bright spot.

5:46 PM  
Blogger Bear82 said...

Now we have to hope and pray that UF kicks UAT's tail next Sat. I will be doin the Gator CHomp for all its worth. Anyone else with me?

5:46 PM  
Blogger Cotton HATIN BAMA said...

Honestly, after the first game of the season against ULM, we all should have seen this sort of thing coming. Maybe not to this degree, but, yeah. I think that #9 ranking got to our heads a tad.

5:47 PM  
Blogger Mr. Sensible said...

We all thought the same thing.

Tubs & the BBQ bunch can coach through this.

They didn't. Plain and simple.

5:48 PM  
Blogger Roman said...

4 million. at 4% interest, is like 160K/year in interest only. i think i could manage.

I'd like to try. I'm 48 years old and in my best year made a shade over 65k. Thought I was doing pretty good. Then I got divorced. (Never mind how I felt after the ex got through with me...)

5:48 PM  
Anonymous wtc said...

Swinton had no heart. Wife asked who he was and said exactly why you don't know him. No heart.

5:49 PM  
Blogger scottatl said...

This is almost as tragic as the last episode of the shield...

5:49 PM  
Blogger Mr. Sensible said...

Another TD

Ouch...that's running it up, but in the modern era, who can blame them. They have a lot to play for and a lot to make up for.

5:50 PM  
Blogger Cotton HATIN BAMA said...

i hope we score once.

5:50 PM  
Blogger Roman said...

Are we gonna be completely shutout? 29-0 feels an awful lot like the years from 1973-81.

5:50 PM  
Anonymous wtc said...

Maybe Tubbs will step down after this. This team is really bad. Can't be;ieve I thought we had a chance.

5:50 PM  
Blogger Mr. Sensible said...

Amen, ScottATL...amen

5:50 PM  
Blogger eddie4au- LOATHES BAMA said...

Well, I knew they would score again. I hope we don't fumble again, or they could score again.

5:50 PM  
Blogger Embarassed 88 said...

35-0...with backups in

5:50 PM  
Blogger depressedAUfan said...

I know some here may not believe it but I am not a CTT hater. But anyone that looks at this game as well as the rest of this nightmare of a season and thinks he can fix this with a new OC and some new assistants...I disagree. This program is in free-fall, and only new blood can turn it around. I am not saying there is a sure thing better than CTT, but I think it has reached the point where there is less risk in making a change than in not making a change.

5:51 PM  
Blogger Roman said...

Never mind. 36-0 feels a lot like 1973-1981. Total domination/annihilation. No excuses. Good coaching vs. Tuberville/Gran/Nallsminger.

Tommy MUST go.

5:52 PM  
Blogger eddie4au- LOATHES BAMA said...

Agreed Depressed. Unfortunately I now agree. This performance is hard to take as have most of the other games this season.

5:52 PM  
Blogger Kristina Bammerhater said...

Depressed, mu husband is totally with you. I hate it when he's right.

5:52 PM  
Blogger Mr. Sensible said...

36-0

That is just....ouchtown - population Auburn fans

5:52 PM  
Blogger IM4AU said...

What class they just showed. Lots of locker room material for the next 9 months.

5:53 PM  
Blogger Cotton HATIN BAMA said...

aw, man. That would have been a nice ending for Tristan

5:53 PM  
Anonymous jrmax said...

tubs must go

5:54 PM  
Blogger scott from tucson said...

they need ME as a corner...these guys are pitiful

5:55 PM  
Blogger eddie4au- LOATHES BAMA said...

I think their backups could beat us hands down.

5:55 PM  
Blogger Roman said...

Swinton had no heart. Wife asked who he was and said exactly why you don't know him. No heart.

BULL ******* SH*T! There isn't a player on this team that does not have heart. Swinton may not be a world beater but he's had the disadvantage of AU coaching under an overpaid and mostly incompetent staff.

The time for blaming this on coordinators is over. The buck stops at the top.

5:55 PM  
Blogger Mr. Sensible said...

Later, gang. Tune in Tuesday night at 7:30 pm CST to the Gridiron Breakdown on WTLS

5:57 PM  
Blogger Reynolds said...

I turned it off before I heard the YELLOWHAMMER cheer..

5:57 PM  
Blogger Mr. Sensible said...

And there was Rammer Jammer

5:57 PM  
Blogger scott from tucson said...

fsj, are you likin or hatin this?

5:58 PM  
Blogger Mark said...

no class problem when their backup qb throws a td. our guys need to be coached up enough to stop the 2nd string. don't even start the whining about that.

ctt had 2 weeks to prepare for this game and this is what we get.

resign ctt. resign. you are terrible. you have been schooled.

5:58 PM  
Blogger Peter Frankenschmidt said...

wow. this stinks.

5:58 PM  
Blogger Peter Frankenschmidt said...

wow. this stinks.

5:59 PM  
Blogger eddie4au- LOATHES BAMA said...

Guys, I'm going out to eat to chill out. I'll check back later. This one is tough to swallow.

5:59 PM  
Blogger Mon hatin' bama in WV said...

Nice post, Reynolds. War Eagle and right back attcha!

6:00 PM  
Blogger FSJ said...

Good game guys.

Your defense played hard.

6:01 PM  
Blogger Mon hatin' bama in WV said...

Scott - Faker is in H-E-A-V-E-N right now.

6:01 PM  
Anonymous wtc said...

It's bad when I'm not even sad we lost. this was the worst performance I have seen from and offense since I played college ball. Really bad.

6:01 PM  
Blogger Embarassed 88 said...

I like how Rod Bramlett can spin the season: "We don't have to worry about a bowl game now... see you in the spring Stan."

6:05 PM  
Blogger Bama Hatin' Denny Crum said...

They should have put me in. Yeah... Coach woulda put me in fourth quarter, we would've been state champions. No doubt. No doubt in my mind

6:06 PM  
Anonymous wtc said...

I'll say it again. Swinton has NO HEART. He didn't want that ball. That's why he doesn't play. Why would you say it is the coaches fault for him not being coached up. How do you coach up desire & want? He didn't want it. Not that that play would have mattered, but it is just a trend for the entire season

Worst game I've seen in almost 20 yrs. Out coached again.

6:06 PM  
Blogger Bama Hatin' Denny Crum said...

Mon,

Faker is engaging in self abuse debauchery

6:07 PM  
Anonymous wtc said...

55 rushing yards. 170 total to their 430. Terrible.

So glad it is over.

6:07 PM  
Blogger Mon hatin' bama in WV said...

Who?

6:08 PM  
Blogger IM4AU said...

The HABOTN. Definitely the best thing about this season.

6:08 PM  
Blogger Mon hatin' bama in WV said...

WTC, I'm glad it's over for this year. I'm just afraid of what is on the horizon.

6:09 PM  
Blogger Denny Crum said...

Fake Steve Jobs.

6:09 PM  
Blogger Denny Crum said...

THe future so bright, I need to wear shades

6:10 PM  
Blogger Roman said...

I'll say it again. Swinton has NO HEART. He didn't want that ball.

Tommy, you can say whatever you want and blame the players for your coaching if it makes you feel better. Does not make it true.

(Shouldn't you be coaching instead of posting to blogs?)

6:11 PM  
Anonymous wtc said...

How long before the annoucements come that several coaches are are stepping down?

One of the guest tonight asked if who thought Tubbs will go on his anual duck hunt trip this year? What do you guys think?

6:12 PM  
Blogger Mon hatin' bama in WV said...

Denny - I knew who you meant. lol Failed joke.

Yep, Faker is flying high right now.

6:12 PM  
Blogger IM4AU said...

Locker room report on.

6:12 PM  
Blogger IM4AU said...

Thinks Coach Yox will have a intensive off season planned now.

6:14 PM  
Anonymous wtc said...

FSJ-Congrats on your team playing a great game. Didn't see this onesided showing.

We will get you next year though.

Enjoy this one cause you guys deserve it.

6:15 PM  
Blogger IM4AU said...

Yox is probably wall papering the weight room now.

6:15 PM  
Blogger Mon hatin' bama in WV said...

The commercials with CTT talking about walker with swagger would be funny if they weren't so sad.

6:15 PM  
Blogger Mon hatin' bama in WV said...

IM4AU - Is your hubby and obnoxious winner or is he taking it easy on you?

6:16 PM  
Blogger IM4AU said...

I hope they don't forget that last classy TD pass. I know I won't.

6:17 PM  
Anonymous wtc said...

Monica-I actually think the future is going ot be bright for us. AU has some talent there AU just could not make it happen this year.

6:18 PM  
Blogger IM4AU said...

My husband has been playing with the grandkids all through the game. He's always been a gracious winner, as have I.

6:18 PM  
Blogger Muburn23 said...

Man I am thoroughly depressed

6:18 PM  
Blogger IM4AU said...

Has anybody heard anything on Mario. It was is other shoulder wasn't it?

6:20 PM  
Blogger Mon hatin' bama in WV said...

I'm glad to hear that for your sake, IM4AU! Very cute pic of your grand kids, btw.

WTC - I'm happy you have that optimism. I'm not so confident in our coaching staff on so many levels. Oh well.

6:21 PM  
Anonymous wtc said...

Didn't see the last TD. Was it for style points or did they jsut make a play? Really can't fault them for it. The kids practice and want score, even the 2nd-3rd teams.

6:21 PM  
Blogger IM4AU said...

Thanks Mon. The grandkids wore their AU gear, hoping to bring us luck. They will be in Auburn with me next year rooting on our Tigers.

6:22 PM  
Blogger IM4AU said...

I've been a huge Tubby supporter, but it might be time for him to retire to his nice lakeside home. Can't feel too sorry for him. Auburn has been good to him.

6:23 PM  
Blogger Steve from Columbia said...

wtc, the last touchdown was on a great fade by McElroy, the backup QB.

6:23 PM  
Blogger depressedAUfan said...

Muburn23, be glad it took you this long to get depressed. I had low expectations for this game, and still think I aimed too high.

6:23 PM  
Blogger depressedAUfan said...

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6:23 PM  
Blogger IM4AU said...

Yeah, wtc, but Tommy always sits on a lead and never wants to run up the score. I say, let our guys go. Well that is, when we are capable!

6:24 PM  
Blogger Steve from Columbia said...

This was the worst performance I can remember from an Auburn team since a game against Tennessee at home. I believe it was in Pat Dye's second year and it was something like 42-0.

6:25 PM  
Blogger Roman said...

HIRE PAUL JOHNSON!

Georgia Tech took UGA to the woodshed today (final score notwithstanding) in the first year of "rebuilding" and installing an option offense with a Chan Gailey recruited roster that was built for anything BUT the option.

I'd love to see PJ coaching at AU. GT can't compete on money...and Tommy Tuberville can't compete on coaching.

6:25 PM  
Blogger Mon hatin' bama in WV said...

CTT is usually on the post game radio show by now isn't he?

6:25 PM  
Blogger IM4AU said...

What's so sad. We don't even know what to expect next year. We have seen absolutely no improvement this year.

6:25 PM  
Blogger IM4AU said...

They are still waiting on Tommy to show up. Maybe he has already left the building.

6:26 PM  
Blogger IM4AU said...

They are waiting around waiting on Tommy Tuberville. I do feel sorry for the seniors.

6:27 PM  
Blogger Roman said...

Yup. Still waiting on Tubs. Hope he resigns on air. CASH THAT LOTTO TICKET, TOMMY!

6:27 PM  
Blogger Mon hatin' bama in WV said...

Time for CTT to go, but he'll be back.

6:27 PM  
Anonymous wtc said...

Was it a good thing for us to get blown out? Was this a wake up call?

6:28 PM  
Blogger Mon hatin' bama in WV said...

Yeah, CTT is ALWAYS on the post game show BEFORE the call in portion of the show. Wonder where he is.

6:28 PM  
Blogger Mon hatin' bama in WV said...

LOL Did we really NEED MORE of a "wake up call"???? Geeze Louise. The obnoxious alarm has been screaming for a while now.

6:29 PM  
Blogger IM4AU said...

Lost my postgame feed on the radio. You will have to tell me what excuses Tommy gives.

6:31 PM  
Anonymous wtc said...

The problem with this game to me, is that down 10-0 I felt like we were doing well. The turnovers just killed us. Defese can't play that long. I fell bad for those guys and Rhodes.

6:32 PM  
Blogger depressedAUfan said...

wtc, if it took this game to be a wake-up call, this program is in even worse shape than I thought. If Tubs talks his way out of this one, I am convinced he can sell an eskimo an igloo. This game was more like the nail in the coffin.

6:32 PM  
Blogger IM4AU said...

Agree wtc. Those 2 turnovers really took the wind out of any sails we had.

6:33 PM  
Anonymous wtc said...

Danielson was right when UAT kicked off and it looked like it was going out of bounds and Fannin had to pick it before was recovered by UAT, he said the way it bounced has been the way the season has gone for both teams. UAT got the right bounces and AU didn't get any.

6:34 PM  
Blogger Mon hatin' bama in WV said...

So CTT said the new OC will be able to bring in his own staff.

Wow.

6:41 PM  
Anonymous wtc said...

The wake up call is not for the team. They will be fine. I thinking it should be a wake up call for the staff (those that remain) to get out and work harder than they have been working. It was too late to do anything after the losses started mounting, but this game should have let them know how far they have to go.

6:41 PM  
Blogger coosa said...

Well, some of you younger folks will now have to learn what our favorite saying used to be after the Iron Bowl - "Just wait til next year."

I can remember being clobbered by bammer before; I can live with it.

I've no idea what needs to be done with our football team, but hope whomever it is that will decide will make the right choices. Tubs just said on the radio that the new OC could bring in new coaches.

Congrats to bammer, they are really better than I thought they were.

War Eagle!

6:42 PM  
Anonymous wtc said...

Moinca-that's what I heard also.

6:42 PM  
Blogger depressedAUfan said...

wtc-not trying to argue, but this season has had little to do with bad bounces. Blocking, throwing, running, tackling, kicking and coaching have been our problems.

6:43 PM  
Anonymous wtc said...

Sounded like Chris was about to cry then.

6:44 PM  
Blogger Mon hatin' bama in WV said...

Nothing quite as entertaining as the callers. Especially after imbibing...

6:44 PM  
Anonymous wtc said...

You are right, but we also did not get any breaks. I think you make your own luck by being in the right place at the right time and we weren't either.

Just like tonight, once the turnovers started they just continued.

6:46 PM  
Blogger Embarassed 88 said...

I see why Muschamp left and never looked back. He knew Auburn did not have the right coaching staff to compete with Saban and his staff on the field and in recruiting.

6:48 PM  
Blogger Jay G. Tate said...

Tuberville said it was all his fault: This loss, the season, everything.

Said he expects to be back.

Anecdotal evidence suggests he, in fact, will be back in 2009.

6:48 PM  
Anonymous wtc said...

Rob is trying to spin it, but he just hit the key point. UAT had some players that took on a leadership role (ie make a Tebow type statement)and bring out this best of the team. If we have none of those next year, you can count on another 5-7 type team.

6:50 PM  
Blogger Mon hatin' bama in WV said...

Of course he'll be back.

6:51 PM  
Anonymous wtc said...

Jay-Do you think he makes his annual hunting trip?

6:51 PM  
Blogger depressedAUfan said...

Jay, I may have to change my name to even more depressedAUfan. So chances of a change are less than 25%? Amazing.

6:52 PM  
Blogger Mark said...

I have never seen our defense manhandled like they were today. I really did not think it could happen. I do not remember marks' name being called all night. coleman knocked down that first pass; but afterthat, I don't remember any plays from him either.

we were owned.

congrats bama. you were better.

6:54 PM  
Anonymous wtc said...

I am glad I still don't listen to the morning drive call in (Longshore) nor Fbaum.

Don't mind the ribbing form some of the UAT fans, just don't care about hearing the knuckleheads that will start Monday.

6:56 PM  
Anonymous wtc said...

Q is taking about recruiting linmen and linebackers, but we have 25 or so already. maybe we can drop a few of those and get some that we really need.

6:57 PM  
Blogger Steve from Columbia said...

I thought I heard that Tuberville said a new OC could bring in his own position coaches. Is that correct?

7:00 PM  
Blogger Steve from Columbia said...

It appears that was correct. That may be what it takes for Tuberville to keep his job.

7:02 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I thought I heard that Tuberville said a new OC could bring in his own position coaches. Is that correct?

Steve, love ya man, but who cares? The OC isn't the issue, Tuberville is. It's about time for you to put the role of Tuberville apologist to rest. It's gotten...old...and it smacks of homerism.

7:07 PM  
Blogger depressedAUfan said...

wtc-that brings up a good question. Either we have been recruiting the wrong players or we have done a poor job coaching and developing these players. CTT has constantly stressed how recruiting has been better and better every year. How can anyone believe he and his staff(whoever may be on it) can turn this thing around? So many people knock on the assistants, but Tubs is the head coach and these assistants are all his choices. If this staff is so bad, why do TPTB think he can suddenly put together a better one?

7:07 PM  
Blogger Kris "The Other Little Ball of "Hate said...

For once this season, Tubbs put the monkey where it belonged...on his back. I don't know if keeping him or showing him the door is the better play. In the past six years when they were going through the coaching carousel and in the throes of probation, we never put a beating on them and I don't think anyone else did either. This is embarassing for the team and the same for the Auburn family, and I for one am tired of waiting fo "next year" (losing to bama notwistanding). We have the money, the tradition, the facilities and the fan support to expect more.

7:08 PM  
Blogger Mon hatin' bama in WV said...

Amen depressed and Kris.

Ditto me on both those posts.

7:12 PM  
Blogger Jay G. Tate said...

I'll leave my official firing % at 35.

Not exactly 50-50, but close.

7:15 PM  
Blogger Kris "The Other Little Ball of "Hate said...

This whole season was doomed from the start. My best friend, brother-in-law and world's biggest Auburn fan was killed in Iraq on April 25th. I will be graveside tommorrow with one question...WTF?

7:15 PM  
Blogger Bear82 said...

Jay- did the players seem totally upset/ticked off about the loss or more like a thank goodness the season is over attitude? Just wondering how the players took the loss

7:17 PM  
Blogger Steve from Columbia said...

I don't know if giving the OC full rain will save his job, but I am very surprised that I see childish remarks such as supporting your coach being homerism. Tuberville has been one of the winningest coaches in school history. Find another stretch in Auburn history where we won as many games as we did from 2004-2006. Good luck.

I am glad to see Tuberville taking responsibility again, but I think the more important thing is him letting the new OC run the show offensively. I think CTT's conservatism has always limited our offense. While effective, to get to the next level we need to open things up a bit.

7:19 PM  
Blogger Steve from Columbia said...

Embarassed 88, you make a very interesting point and I wonder if it is correct. Muschamp, and possibly Chizik, could have left because they saw the issues with our offense and didn't feel it would be corrected. I doubt we will ever know for sure, but that is a possibility.

7:21 PM  
Blogger IM4AU said...

Did he give any indication when that new OC would be hired? Guess he has to get confirmation from Gogue that he will be AU's coach next year before he starts hiring OCs.

7:21 PM  
Blogger Kris "The Other Little Ball of "Hate said...

The firing percentage could be 100% and it wouldn't matter. Who out there (that Auburn could get) is a better replacement? How many USC assistants with no head coaching experience (and horrible records when given the chance) are out there? I would rather be us with Tommy than tennessee with Lane Kiffin. For gosh sakes, his assistants could have more status than he does.

7:24 PM  
Blogger Steve from Columbia said...

IM4AU, he has said that he plans to announce the new OC after the first week in January. He doesn't want to disrupt another teams season, which would indicate we are getting a coach from a bowl team.

7:25 PM  
Blogger Steve from Columbia said...

Kris "The Other Little Ball of "Hate, I agree that there aren't many better coaches out there to choose from, although we have the money to go after anyone. The thing is, even if you spend the big bucks, as Notre Dame did, you may end up with a flop. There are very few proven coaches available.

7:27 PM  
Blogger depressedAUfan said...

Steve, I won't make snide remarks about anyone's opinions because respecting opinions is what makes this board great to me. But the players who made that run from 04-06 possible are long gone. And the next level for AU at this point is a .500 record. Things have changed.

7:27 PM  
Blogger IM4AU said...

I remember now that he said he would wait until after the bowl season indicating it is someone hopefully in a BCS bowl. Any speculations? Let's start some rumors!

7:28 PM  
Blogger IM4AU said...

So how many people are pulling for Florida next week?

7:29 PM  
Blogger Muburn23 said...

I hope Tubs can pull out an awesome O-Coordinator out of his hat. Au needs to bounce back better than ever next season. We went 13-0 after a season similar to this...

7:29 PM  
Blogger IM4AU said...

Heard rumors that Urban Mayer could possibly be at Notre Dame, his dream job, after they fire Weiss.

7:30 PM  
Blogger Mr. Sensible said...

2003 and this year are not that similar

7:31 PM  
Blogger IM4AU said...

Lord, it's going to be a long off season for Auburn.

7:31 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I am very surprised that I see childish remarks such as supporting your coach being homerism.

Stupid is as stupid does. Tuberville has never been a great coach and he isn't now. I support Auburn, not the coach. You support the coach, NOT Auburn. Therein lies the difference.

7:32 PM  
Anonymous klaus said...

Could someone verify this for me?

Did the CBS sideline reporter say that she overheard Saban yelling to his players,"....I hate these (bleeping) guys!!...

7:33 PM  
Blogger Steve from Columbia said...

depressedAUfan, things have changed and they will definitely change again. Whether it be for better or worse is the question. We have the talent to be a good team. At the moment I feel like we are doing a disservice to these players by not having them prepared to play football.

I am bouncing back and forth over whether Tuberville will be back, but at the moment I think his chance of staying are probably a little over 50%. If we had only lost by two touchdowns or less, I would have been pretty certain he would return.

The thing is, we as fans are not really qualified to evaluate coaches, particularly position coaches. The head coach, we can evaluate better because his job is more managerial and recruiting rather than actual coaching.

With Tuberville, it is hard to evaluate everything that went on with Franklin. I do think firing Franklin made things worse in the middle of the season and the record indicates that, but we don't know the reasons for what have occurred.

Stability in a program is very important, and possibly more important at a school like Auburn.

7:34 PM  
Blogger Muburn23 said...

IM4AU: Urban Mayer will not go to Notre Dame. The man isn't an idiot.

7:35 PM  
Anonymous patdyeswildturkey said...

alright guys, franklin is the word of the day, we gambled and it backfired. plain and simple, yes it was tubbs fault but its one that was written in stone, i love tubbs, the ghost of auburn tigers past could not have helped us tonight, i knew the streak would end, glad it was when we were 5-7 than 10-1, etc..wde

7:35 PM  
Blogger Mr. Sensible said...

Klaus,

That's what she reported.

7:36 PM  
Blogger Steve from Columbia said...

Anonymous, wrong again. I support Auburn. Because you fail to see that doesn't make it untrue. Because you disagree on what is best for Auburn, you mind seems limited. Good luck to you, but you are way off in left field.

7:36 PM  
Blogger Steve from Columbia said...

Urban Meyer to Notre Dame would be interesting. Is NOtre Dame really going to pay that 20 Million buyout?

7:39 PM  
Blogger depressedAUfan said...

If Mayer leaves UF for ANY job, he needs immediate professional help. That job is a gold-mine. And Mr S I too see huge differences between 2003 and 2008.

7:39 PM  
Anonymous klaus said...

Mr. Sensible,

Thanks.

"..I hate those (bleeping) guys"

Oh brother. Get a grip.

7:39 PM  
Blogger Kris "The Other Little Ball of "Hate said...

Exactlty Steve. You simply can't throw big money at an assistant coach because of the success the program they have been at has. The Pats got better after Weis left, not worse. USC can (allegedly) put up families of big time recruits/players in plush housing and get away with it, so why hire a guy from a media darling that (allegedly) cheats? The fact is, there aren't any coaches out there that are as driven to succeed as $aban and thems the facts folks. Hopefully this season and its travails will rekindle the fire in the belly of a good and PROVEN head coach...one Tommy Tubberville.

7:41 PM  
Anonymous patdyeswildturkey said...

lets be honest our defense played terrible....

linebackers small, got pushed around, DL got pushed around, db's -mike mcneil needs a replacement,

paul rhodes does not rush the passer, muschamp did, but was bad against...the pass...i dont like rhoades...

7:44 PM  
Anonymous patdyeswildturkey said...

lets talk auburn damnit...i need a release..i am out of beer..to hell with urban meyer...

7:46 PM  
Blogger Kris "The Other Little Ball of "Hate said...

and Mcneil was one of those "big time recruits"...couldn't agree with you more 'Turkey!

7:47 PM  
Anonymous klaus said...

Save me the trouble of looking it up. Who is that #87 receiver for Auburn? I've somehow missed him the whole season. I was hoping he would catch one so they would call his name!

7:48 PM  
Blogger Steve from Columbia said...

I agree that 2003 was much different. The 2003 team lost 3 games to very good teams. Even the losses to GT and Ole Miss were to pretty good teams. Only the GT loss was pretty embarrassing since we played terrible.

This year, take your pick of the most embarrassing loss. Heck, even a couple of the wins were embarrassing: UT and MSU. We could have easily been 3-8 this season. Our big wins have been against ULM, Southerm Miss, and UT-M. It don't get much worse than that.

I don't think anyone can take pride in the wins over MSU or UT. MSU had a pathetic offense, almost as bad as ours. UT had the worst team that have had, probably, sense Fulmer has been ther.

No, this team doesn't have much to hang its hat on and we have no offensive stars. Fannin had a pretty good game. Kodi does good in spots. That is pretty much it.

This is a bad offensive football team, although there is plenty of talent. But talent and production don't always line up. I see a lot of players that supposedly have the talent. When you have a few players underachieve, it is the players fault. When you have the number of offensive players we have underachieve, it is purely the coaches fault.

Whether it ends up being CTT and a new OC, or a new HC, this team must look much better prepared next season. We owe it to the players to ensure they have the coaching they need.

7:48 PM  
Anonymous patdyeswildturkey said...

next years athlons.

SEC WEST

1. Bama- based on this years results and returning starters.

2. Ole Miss- Jevan Snead, Rb's, passing defense,

3. LSU-athletes, jarrett lee, qb problems, young team

4. Auburn/Arkansas - Arkansas will have Ryan Mallett next year, Michigans qb, Petrino can coach, Auburn will have starters back, dont know if it helps

5. MSU- They will be last until they find a qb over 5'11.

7:50 PM  
Blogger Steve from Columbia said...

I think 87 is Derek Winter, a true freshmen. I could be wrong.

7:51 PM  
Anonymous patdyeswildturkey said...

derek winter, ur right e sucked tonight, this wasnt floridaa 4A CHAMPIONSHIP, he sucked

7:53 PM  
Blogger Muburn23 said...

wildturkey: Already makinG preseason picks before the season is over? I'm sorry but you just can't do that. Look at UGA this year and that proves pre-season is ridiculous , much less making predictions about next season before this season is finished.

7:53 PM  
Blogger Steve from Columbia said...

Looks like Ducks are better than Beavers, althoug I would vote it the other way around.

7:54 PM  
Anonymous klaus said...

Has this Winter kid played any this year? And why was he in so much tonight? Was one of the other receivers hurt?

7:55 PM  
Blogger depressedAUfan said...

Kris and Steve, time may prove both of you right. I just think CTT has ran his course at AU and a new direction with fresh ideas is needed. Fans now hope to not be embarassed against teams we used to expect to beat or at least be competitive against. And what happens next year if AU struggles mightily again? Do we hear Tubs needs more time to give his new coaches and new recruits time to adjust to changes? In year 11 of his tenure? Then you end up losing a year of transition to the new coach. I have said I don't see a slam-dunk coach out there, but behind the scenes it may be a different story of who is avaliable. Maybe not.

7:55 PM  
Blogger Steve from Columbia said...

I agree that making predictions about next season is foolish. I do think both Ole Miss and Bama will be good. As for the rest, who knows? We aren't even sure who will coach Auburn and we definitely don't know about MSU. LSU could be in a steady decline. They have got worse, not better, as the season went on. Their troubles are more than just a QB.

7:56 PM  
Blogger Steve from Columbia said...

depressedAUfan, as for next season, I haven't really looked at the schedule, but my guess is that we would have to win at least 8 games for Tuberville to remain. That is purely off my head and I am against the number of wins determining a coaches future. A lot depends upon how good your opponents are. If we loose to UA, WV, UGA, and LSU next season, I would see Tuberville staying. If we only lose to MSU, ARK, Ole Miss, and Vandy, I would expect Tuberville to be run out of town on a rail.

7:59 PM  
Anonymous patdyeswildturkey said...

where was brad lester?
morgan hull? no painting of that blocked kick.
ben tate, he needs a compass so he wont go north and south.
Josh Bynes? does he know tackle till the whistle blow?
No pressure on JPW, all night> sen derrick and coleman i am calling you out.
Ziemba i want you in a tough man comptetion, soft as a sponge.

Give Tyronee Green credit he gave Mount Cody all he wanted..

player of the game= the clock operator, who fast forwarded our misery

8:00 PM  
Blogger tigerfan44 said...

I said it's great to be an AUBURN TIGER.

CTT showed a lot of class after get spanked.

8:01 PM  
Blogger Steve from Columbia said...

klaus, Winter has played a good bit this year. Heck, his name has been called more often that the James "The Invisible Man" Swinton. Winter apparently has potential, but you are right that there is something wrong when he is in the game instead of Zachary, Hawthorne, and Slaughter, although apparently Slaughter is being punished.

8:02 PM  
Anonymous patdyeswildturkey said...

muburn23:

mmmmm, let me see...nope not too early, we wont be in a bowl so i can predict, yes, i agree, we were supposed to be #1 in the west, just my opinion, saying the rest of th west has caught up, actually what i posted espn guys agreed on this am, we have a long way too go..

8:03 PM  
Blogger Steve from Columbia said...

Tate is a good solid back. He just isn't the type of quick back that can do it all on his own.

Lester is a disappointment.

Fannin continues to show potential, but still hasn't had a breakout game.

I wonder it Tristan would have been better as a defensive back.

8:05 PM  
Anonymous patdyewildturkey said...

my wifes nugget of wisdom, "at least we didnt have any seniors worth a damn" we should be better next sure...!!!!

8:05 PM  
Blogger Embarassed 88 said...

The only two SEC teams we beat this year (UT & MSU) had their coaches "resign"

8:07 PM  
Blogger tigerfan44 said...

More worried about Auburn than bama next year but they do lose some key players. I think a. smith leaves along with some good players on the line. Just hope marks , coleman and green hang around auburn one more year.

8:08 PM  
Anonymous patdyeswildturkey said...

tristan is gone, he will be playing arena 2 ball or canadian league, lester, jeff francours ball boy, tate= needs a big sr year, he has had a disappointing year, fannin= explosiveness, fumbles, ??????new rb's who knows

8:08 PM  
Blogger Muburn23 said...

wildturkey: Brad Lester? man he needs to stay off the field. He coughs up fumble after fumble...
Bynes: He's a beast and fowled up that one play, but its not like it would have changed anything if hadn't...
Hull: The guy hasn't kicked a FG or extra point the whole season, but did do something that hasn't happened all year long... kick a touch back.
Coleman and Marks? Has there been any pressure on any opposing Qb's this year???

8:10 PM  
Anonymous klaus said...

Tristan seeme to be one of those star-crossed players. If he would have been waterboy, he still would have broken his toe twice, tweaked hamstring, etc., etc.

8:10 PM  
Blogger WarEagleRK said...

I left after the Fannin fumble, so I missed the last TD. I just couldn't watch it anymore.

Did he just have the air knocked out of him or was he hurt?

8:11 PM  
Anonymous patdyeswildturkey said...

mel kipers 1st rd. today on espn

1. andre smith- pick #1-JR
2. Cody-bama -NT-#13-Jr
3. Marks-Auburn-DT-#23-JR

*Tyronne Green is a sr.
*Coleman is a JR. not listed high

8:11 PM  
Blogger Muburn23 said...

And yes, it is too early. It's just plain stupid to make predictions on next season when this season hasn't even ended. Even if you did, they will be wrong. have any pre-season predictions been correct in the last couple years? ummm NO

8:13 PM  
Anonymous patdyeswildturkey said...

i miss muschamp...:(

8:13 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Tubs said, i think, Fanin had a shoulder stinger.

8:13 PM  
Anonymous patdyeswildturkey said...

muburn23, click ur heels what do u think will happen, since u cant think past tommorow?

8:14 PM  
Blogger Muburn23 said...

To be honest... i really can't say and neither can you. 2 options: they're going to be good or they're going to be bad. Saying that they are going to have a bad season, before you know who the Cord. is or how spring goes is foolish. Au is not is not losing any big time seniors so I think chances are they will have a better season. But, hey! why don't you just check your crystal ball since you can see that far into the future...

8:18 PM  
Anonymous JasonBourne said...

First, WDE. 5-7 or 13-0, I still love my Auburn Tigers.

What I hope doesn't happen during the off season is a Tuscaloosa-esque freak out where we have to sacrifice our coach because "blood must be spilled." I know that many folks don't like to look back (or admit this), but this program is on a different level than when CTT assumed the helm. One very poor season shouldn't condemn him.

8:21 PM  
Blogger tigerfan44 said...

What I like about our defense is how many different looks we give other team . I don't mind playing sound fundamental ball. But in sec if you don't scheme a little you get 36 points hung on you. Defense looks same before every snap.

8:21 PM  
Anonymous patdyeswildturkey said...

all i am saying is the west next year is not your typical west, bama will be better, not great, so will ole miss, ark and lsu...so auburn caznt just be good, they need to be real good to compete...i am die hard, if auburn is not 1st or 2nd in the west, tubbs is gone as much as i hate it, this year is his mulligan...

8:23 PM  
Anonymous patdyeswildturkey said...

tigerfan44, thank you, ur one of the few fans who are saying you know what, the defense has looked roughed this year, we do not adjsut at half time, plain and simple, i have researched paul rhodes does not believing in blitzing, as you can see...we over ran ever play tonight...

8:26 PM  
Anonymous patdyeswildturkey said...

one player at a time:

NT-Tez doolittle, thank god the ncaa gave hime a 6th year, he has given his all this year, 300 lbs of heart, he will be missed. Zach Clayton has a motor, but has to put on weight to be a true nose tackle, i think is more a DE.

8:30 PM  
Blogger tigerfan44 said...

patdyeswildturkey, I also know if you score 0 you ain't gonna win. But I just don't like Defense. DB cover a little better but safety's suck. Don't know if its coaching or ability or what but we need help at safety spot. Also lb when 39 is first of bench we are in trouble.

8:31 PM  
Anonymous patdyeswildturkey said...

TE-Tommy Trott comes back as a sr., ACL probably not ready till summer, he has hands, but cant block, Gabe McKenzie, true blocker, SR., decent hands, Vance Smith, Soph. who? exactly, Phillip Luthkrithein>? spelling, Marietta recruit, 6 ft 5 inches? who knows all hype or what

8:35 PM  
Anonymous patdyeswildturkey said...

ok, safety, I live in Mobile, home of Mike McNeil, I wont forget how we beat FSU, BAMA, LSU for his services, a 6'3 195 safety, who wouldnt want him.......mmmmmmmmmm...he should be on hardees breakfast menu served as toast with bacon and eggs he is terrible...

8:39 PM  
Blogger Denny Crum said...

Predictions for next year are is that by Spring Practice we will all be giddy AGAIN. So, everybody, go ahead and vent. Even though many of you want CTT to drink a cup of hemlock, the best thing is to get our Army back from the gates of Moscow and regroup.

Other predictions for this season were way off. LSU and us, well, you saw what happened. The turds were picked to finish 4th or 3rd. Ol Miss was picked to not do so well. TN was thought to be ready to break out.


Now my critique of CTT. He has chickens that have come home to roost. For one, he had ample opportunity to put a boot to the throat to bammer at least 2 times during the 6 year run, but didn't. I am not for running up the score just to do it. But taking your foot off the gas over and over sends a bad message to the players. They won't play to their full potential the whole game. Second, CTT is charged with putting out a quality product out there for the public. Last I checked, the fans pay money to see a good product. When you pay Mercedez Benz prices, you shouldn't get a Chevy. Same goes for beating Bammer. I don't want to hear anymore about how "Vanilla" we were on offense or defense or how we aren't trying to show anything. Innovative play calling means teams can know what you run, but they don't know when you run it.

I wasn't ready to play Borges all that much. It seemed he was doing what the HC wanted and the assistants were not able to bring in the wideouts needed to run any type of complex offense.

Getting back to the lack of production. I think years of 'letting off the gas' after a lead and letting the defense win it gets us to right where we are. Its like a car engine, if a team constantly scores only 3 or 4 touchdowns, then just by drift, they start scoring less and less. It is like playing down to your opponent all the time. Scoring lots of points gives the offense CONFIDENCE. THat point seems messed by CTT.

Beating a bammer team by 10 when it should have been 28. Well, it is not an objective measure but the following is how I look at it.

Don't measure yourself by what you have accomplished, but by what you should have accomplished with your ability.- John Wooden

I hope I made my point. I like CTT and support him. But unless he changes his offensive outlook and starts going for jugulars, he is going to continue to have problems.

8:40 PM  
Blogger Jay G. Tate said...

Jason Bosley:

"For what Coach Tuberville has accomplished since he’s been here, to go through a season like we’ve had this year with the adversity. For there to be any discussion about his job security, I think is absolutely ridiculous. It’s absurd. If you’re going to do that to a man who’s done what he’s done for Auburn University, that’s ridiculous. That’s stupid. I don’t know where it comes from. When you have adversity, the cream of the crop rises to the top. So do the turds. That’s the way it is. People start pointing fingers real quick and it’s easy to point fingers at the head coach. But that shouldn’t even be a topic of discussion, in my opinion."

8:52 PM  
Blogger IM4AU said...

Unfortunately the turds have risen to the top!

8:56 PM  
Anonymous patdyeswildturkey said...

I agree with Jason Bosley, Tubbs didnt miss tackles, or underthrow wr's or on Boz's case get blown off the ball, however, being a defensive man than tubbs is, he cant be happy with that weak weak performance, or that weak weak offensive performance, plus we got outcoached, not 1 trick play, no flea flickers, no reverses, nothing, vanilla as a D3 team, ughhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh..excuse me i just threw up again...

8:57 PM  
Blogger tigerfan44 said...

That’s stupid. I don’t know where it comes from. When you have adversity, the cream of the crop rises to the top. So do the turds.

Great quote

8:58 PM  
Anonymous patdyeswildturkey said...

somewhere david housel is drunk talking out of his nose, you would think the man has a nose like owen wilson based on his nasally comments...

8:59 PM  
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