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9.20.2009

First Post: Sunday of Week Four

Hey everyone. What an exciting game that was. I had on;y a few minutes to piece together today's main story (linked below) but I really enjoy those kinds of stories in a sense. I have to write based on gut instinct rather than taking time to review everything I'd seen during the past four hours.

So I wrote about the defense. Yes, Auburn allowed more than 500 yards last night. That's not very good. On the other hand, the Tigers intercepted five passes and recovered a fumble. So the defense took center stage in the fact that a.) their troubles created suspense and b.) their opportunistic work eventually eliminated suspense.

A mixed bag? I'd say so. Auburn defenders should expect plenty of tackling drills this week.

The interesting thing about that is ... many of the missed tackles were by experienced players. I'm not sure what Josh Bynes or Craig Stevens are going to learn by participating in more tackling drills, but I'm sure they'll be participating anyway.

We had great in-game participation last night. Thanks to you all for sharing your gameday with our fine little community.

Here's the Auburn situation at this moment:

TODAY'S STORIES

PREVIOUS STORIES

THE VIDEO VAULT

TODAY'S SCHEDULE
Chizik's teleconference has been delayed until 4:30. It will be held at 4:30 for the rest of the season. I'll post comments as soon as I get back from the powwow. I'll also build a video for evening consumption. That should be live around 8:30 p.m.

Here's what the next few days look like. All times are CDT:

Sun., Sept. 20, 5 p.m.
Mon., Sept. 21, OFF
Tue., Sept. 22, 4:30 p.m. (Chizik presser at 11:30 a.m.; Players available at 11:50 a.m.)
Wed., Sept. 23, 4:30 p.m.
Thu., Sept. 24, 4:30 p.m.
Fri., Sept. 25, OFF
Sat., Sept. 26, vs. Ball State, 6 p.m. (Fox Sports South)
Sun., Sept. 27, 5 p.m.

Also, please pick up the Advertiser's print edition if you live around here! Our fine Auburn coverage is only one element of our award-winning product.

Photo credit: Todd Van Emst/Auburn University

133 Comments:

Blogger Dear Leader said...

Substance

11:42 AM  
Blogger AU1N04 said...

DL back!!

11:44 AM  
Blogger Matt said...

Therdz

11:45 AM  
Blogger Jay G. Tate said...

Forf.

11:46 AM  
Blogger Frame said...

Gotta love Eric Smith's contribution last night. That was a great catch across the middle. And both of his catches were at crucial times in the game, where we needed big plays.

In this offense, we've got playmakers all over the place on offense.

11:49 AM  
Blogger Jay G. Tate said...

I've been surprised by Eric Smith's acumen this season. He's pretty good. I had no idea.

11:54 AM  
Blogger JD the Biscuitator said...

Wow watching The Lane Kiffin Show. Eddie Gran referred to AU as "That other place I was at." when talking about Ronnie Brown.

11:55 AM  
Blogger IV said...

I say again from last thread:

YOU'VE GOTTA HAVE HEART, MILES AND MILES OF HEART.

11:56 AM  
Blogger Dear Leader said...

I look at this like the LSU game a few years back... a big ego builder...

Although the announcers state is was WVU turnovers that won the game for us (we had nothing to do with the turn overs, pressure, coverage)... they make no mention that WVU's points were often due to crappy tackles.....

Just my two WON (KPW)

11:57 AM  
Blogger JD the Biscuitator said...

Sweet the Falcons are rocking the Red Helmets again with the old school falcon on it. I love the throw backs.

11:57 AM  
Blogger Frame said...

Next year, Smith and Kalub (as Mark Jones called him last night) are going to be a real Thunder and Lightning.

Davie and Jones were as bad at their jobs as any workers I've ever seen. In any profession.

11:59 AM  
Blogger JD the Biscuitator said...

I agree Dear Leader. WVU seemed to make their points on big plays and missed tackles.It seemed to me like when they had to drive the ball for the most part we were able to force a turnover. I think that was due to our DL getting very good pressure on the QB and whether we tackled him or not we forced him to make decisions. Bob Davie is one of the worst announcers that I can ever recall. I was at the game but watched the replay this morning and they were horrible

12:00 PM  
Blogger Kristina said...

Yeah, while the tackling sucked, it was encouraging to know we were at the ball quickly. We just need to execute better when we get there.

And are we sure they didn't grease up??? Maybe have some type of inflatable uniforms? We were just bouncing and sliding off them.

12:03 PM  
Blogger Dear Leader said...

I will eat my crow... I was not an Eric Smith fan... except for the spring game... nothing stood out for me with him....

He is showing he can be a great secondary weapon.. I do nto think his has arrived... but I am warming up my crow, hopefully Eric will make me take a big bite in the coming weeks...


www.fireBobDavie.com - whos in

12:05 PM  
Blogger Aeronaut said...

Some more of my offense criticism:

Andrew McCain missed a couple of assignments. Ben Tate needs to block better. Some fake handoffs are too easy to spot. Kodi Burns should practice throwing. Feet, Todd, feet.

Eric Smith: his rolling ball like stride and catching motion is just Beautiful. 5 ft 10 / 240 lbs slot receiver? Gus, you da man.

12:07 PM  
Blogger WarEagleRK said...

Jay G,

One correction from your article. Todd didn't throw for 300 yards. The team had 300 yards passing, but Burns I think had 17 of them.

12:09 PM  
Blogger WarEagleRK said...

Bob Davie has always been awful. I think his first game ever was our loss to GaTech in 2005 and he's only gotten worse.

12:10 PM  
Blogger Eddie's Brother said...

Why is T'sharvin Bell listed as having a catch in stats from the game? When did that happen or is that just a statistical error? And if it did, why? Did Bell move from DB to WR without anyone knowing?

Answers on a postcard please.

12:10 PM  
Blogger Frame said...

I knew Davie was horrible. I didn't know Jones was that bad. He just couldn't keep with the game.

12:11 PM  
Blogger AU1N04 said...

I like the fact that I don't freak out anymore when a pass is going down field. Anything beyond the screen would make me look through my fingers.

12:14 PM  
Blogger Jay G. Tate said...

I was in a bit of a rush last night with the game story. Stuff happens.

Thanks for the catch, RK.

12:15 PM  
Blogger Aeronaut said...

Eddie's Bro.

I think I saw a sack by Barrett Trotter (#14 Demond Washington).

Check out the Auburn score as the quarter progresses.

Also click on 2nd quarter to check out a sack by barrett trotter.

12:17 PM  
Blogger AU1N04 said...

Aero - I saw that as well and was like wha?!

12:18 PM  
Blogger Frame said...

Also, last night during the game, every time Burns would have a carry, they'd put Wes Byrum's rushing stats across the screen.

Wes Byrum 4 carries, 10 yards.

12:18 PM  
Blogger AU1N04 said...

AU didn't make AP Top 25 yet. Getting closer though

12:19 PM  
Blogger wtc said...

Got home last night about 1:15am. I have not read the other posts yet, but I am sure many of you sat through the rain, as did I, and got SOAKED . It was brutal. Then was ready to head home after the 1st quarter. Stayed to the very end. WVU has some very good players. AU has some good players on D. Thorpe had his best game ever, IMO. Tackling drills are a MUST this week. I am tired of seeing guys (from many teams) just drive to drive into the runner with helmet and shoulder pads and knock him down. Whatever happened to wrapping someone up?

12:20 PM  
Blogger Eddie's Brother said...

Thanks Aero. It's just weird that auburntigers.com list the mistake as well.

12:24 PM  
Blogger FearlessFreep said...

Can't remember where it was, but I recall looking at a major sports site's stats during the MSU game and seeing T'Sharvan Bell as having thrown a half dozen passes for 50 something yards. Thought it was on ESPN, but just checked and it's correct now, so who knows.

I did notice the little 'stats line' at the top of the screen frequently listed Wes Byrum's rushing yardage. I knew having the same number as Kodi would cause some confusion.

I expect ex-HCs like Davie to be terrible with names, and to get off on 'themes' that they continue to hammer on throughout the game despite what's actually taking place on the field. After all, they spent most of their adult lives working in a completely different profession.

I almost felt sorry for Mark Jones, however. He was absolutely dreadful, and his lack of preparation was embarassing. It's one thing to mispronounce McCalebb's name throughout the entire contest - but how could anyone consistently mistake Burns for Todd and vice versa?

12:26 PM  
Blogger Jay G. Tate said...

I didn't rank Auburn this week.

12:27 PM  
Blogger FearlessFreep said...

I don't think we quite deserve a ranking just yet.

Consider it penance for us still being in the top 10 last year when we also started the season 3-0.

12:30 PM  
Blogger Eddie said...

Rankings don't matter for us. Just keep winning and ranking will come. We are not playing for a BCS Championship this year, so it really doesn't mean jack.

12:32 PM  
Blogger Jay G. Tate said...

My ballot:

1. Florida
2. Texas
3. Alabama
4. Penn State
5. Mississippi
6. California
7. Oklahoma
8. Ohio State
9. Miami Florida
10. Pittsburgh
11. LSU
12. Boise State
13. Virginia Tech
14. Southern Cal
15. TCU
16. North Carolina
17. Oklahoma State
18. Cincinnati
19. BYU
20. Georgia
21. Houston
22. Kansas
23. Georgia Tech
24. Florida State
25. Washington

12:32 PM  
Blogger AU1N04 said...

I figure it will take the TN game to get ranked. Didn't Ball State just lose to Army?

12:34 PM  
Blogger Sensi said...

It was nice to meet many of you face to face yesterday.

DL, Scottie, Kirby, Kristina (thanks for letting me crash by), Eddie, and of course Jay G. and Moon

Hope you all have a solid Sunday.

12:34 PM  
Blogger Sensi said...

Can't argue with that poll. Glad to see Washington get some love. They are mucho improved.

Go Pitt for making the Top 10.

12:36 PM  
Blogger Aeronaut said...

Freep: You are right. After the MSU game the ESPN site did show Bell's statistics as QB.
---------

Dang.. look at Josh Moon getting all lovey dovey with Auburn.

12:41 PM  
Blogger AUBigCat said...

I think i still have water in my ears from last night. I have noticed that these coaches dont seem to harp on wrapping up as far as tackling goes. That almost did us in.

12:43 PM  
Blogger Jay G. Tate said...

I am high voter on Pitt.

I'm almost low voter on LSU.

12:45 PM  
Blogger IV said...

Jay,

Did Bag get a good dose of Kool- Aid at JH last night?

12:45 PM  
Blogger Eddie said...

As Sensi said, it was nice to meet the hotties and the hot master face to face. Also, really enjoyed meeting JKEV. By the way, I wouldn't want to be on the other side of a fight with JKEV. I think Jay G paid him for security detail.

12:49 PM  
Blogger WarEagleRK said...

If we beat UT in Knoxville, we deserve to be ranked.

Their D will be the first real defense we see all year.

12:52 PM  
Blogger WarEagleRK said...

Tiger Rags created score shirts for last night.

Not sure about a lot of the stuff they are doing these days.

12:53 PM  
Blogger missinit said...

I can't wait to see the replay today and see that

81 yard line

.....how bizarre, how bizarre!

12:53 PM  
Blogger FearlessFreep said...

For those of you who have concerns about AU despite last night's win, consider the alternative.

Imagine if your team was 3-0, yet their overall performance inspired post-game comments like these.

Well, some of you won't have to do much imagining.

12:54 PM  
Blogger Eddie said...

Tiger Rags is just going downhill fast. A score shirt on a generic t-shirt for a game that is really not score worthy IMO.

12:55 PM  
Blogger Aeronaut said...

Sensi : Would you like to try our new grilled crow wrap? ;)

12:56 PM  
Blogger wtc said...

FYI-Dyer to make his decision in about two weeks. Says AU fans should not worry about anything. In his interview after the game, when discussing AU, says 'we' hung there, 'we' didn't quit. 'Our' student fans were the greatest.
(Courtesy of rivals)

Interesting. Can I be two for two?

12:56 PM  
Blogger WarEagleRK said...

Did anyone burn Sensi?

12:57 PM  
Blogger WarEagleRK said...

As I said earlier, I'm still waiting on Eltoro to play up to the level of hype he's been given.

Maybe he'll come along later, but right now he seems just to be out there.

12:58 PM  
Blogger Eddie said...

Freeman has much to learn right now. He looks exactly like Tray Blackmon IMO.

1:04 PM  
Blogger AUfan said...

wtc, I thought Thorpe was outstanding, as well. He looks to have the total package for a DB.

When it comes to recruiting, in wtc I trust.

Even though I know you don't follow it much.

1:04 PM  
Blogger IV said...

Out for awhile for NASCAR. Will catch up latter. Have fun Hotties.

1:04 PM  
Blogger Eddie's Brother said...

Was last night a "Livin' on a Prayer" sort of game?

1:05 PM  
Blogger wtc said...

After 3 games, I am ready to put Boulware on the bus back to Iowa State. His specials teams are not special at all. I watched each kick return by WVU on the big screen last niught and the reciver was a the 25 (except once) everytime before an AU defender was even close. Then they just bounced it outside and AU was out of position.

1:12 PM  
Blogger missinit said...

Thanks DL for the link to the UWV message boards...believe it or not I read through all 69 pages.

I learned:

1. That most fan bases are alike

2. That they thought the announcers sucked as much as we did.

3. They did not give a lot of SEC luv, think SEC speed is overated

4. That they cuss alot...alot!

5. That they think Auburn is known as a medium tier SEC team

1:12 PM  
Blogger Eddie said...

Bro- No, that would have been last season's team. This season's team is a confident bunch.

Boulware needs to be turn in for theft because he is stealing his salary right now. I hope to good we improve, but right now, our special teams are terrible with a capital T.

1:14 PM  
Blogger wtc said...

Our kisk return team is no better than our kick off team. Out up guys are too far up. By the time our guys receive the ball, the cover team has fought off AU's blocks and ran past the blockers. I think Jay wrote AU averaged 17 yards on kick returns. As C Barlkey would say, 'that's turrible.'

1:14 PM  
Blogger §teveFC said...

West Virginia fears Todzilla!!!

1:16 PM  
Blogger Eddie said...

missinit- LOL on the WV message boards and Auburn a mid-tier SEC Team, so with that thought....they lost to a medium SEC tier team which in turns means that a medium SEC tier team is one of the best in the Big East. Way to downgrade your conference WVU.

1:19 PM  
Blogger Aeronaut said...

Eddie: You are hoping to the wrong entity (good?).

----
Man.. IV is leaving. I wanted to ask him to help me compare the left and right OTs performance from yesterday's game ;).

1:22 PM  
Blogger Norm said...

Aero just wants to get something started?

1:30 PM  
Blogger §teveFC said...

Tate does need to work on his blocking.

Eric Smith finally go a shot to show what he can do. I am pleased.

Tim Hawthorne coming back was a great surprise. I wonder if that had something to do with the Billings decision.

We shall be in the top 25. It is just a matter of time.

1:31 PM  
Blogger IV said...

Aero,

I am still lurking. I have moved on from our debate. I thought that I pretty much yielded to you and your debate abilities in our last discussion. You present your thoughts, I will consider them. By the way, have I thanked you today for your service to our country? Thanks Big Guy.

1:32 PM  
Blogger §teveFC said...

We must ignite this couch

1:39 PM  
Blogger Eddie said...

This comment has been removed by the author.

1:47 PM  
Blogger Aeronaut said...

IV: I respect your wishes towards me, and my fellow workers (We aren't troops, btw. We liaise so the things work at the right time and place).

I'd very humbly suggest that I'd rather discuss the points, and not the pontificators. I do not want to use my location or job to add weight to what I say on here.

In fact I feel more comfortable when those things are not brought up. I hope you understand where I am coming from. I'd rather be just another Auburn fan on here.

1:48 PM  
Blogger Eddie said...

Here is my 2 cents on last night:

It's Great To Be An Auburn Tiger

1:49 PM  
Blogger coosa said...

After a night to think about it, I still say I hate espn almost as much as uat. And I wasn't even listening to their moronic audio; had it muted and listened to the radio.

I'm gonna watch it on the dvr and see how many times they missed the snap on one of our plays. I'd guess at least 15, not to mention that we got to see nothing of the formation and motion before the snap. All so that could show some kind of nonsense that had nothing to do with the game.

Fox has the best coverage of anybody right now - they just show the game. What a great idea.

1:50 PM  
Blogger wtc said...

what channel and when can i watch a replay in Montgomery with Knology cable?

1:54 PM  
Blogger Norm said...

Aero - you and yours are performing a valuable service on behalf of others. Whatever it is you're doing, you're supporting a cause. I thank you.

1:54 PM  
Blogger Aeronaut said...

So.. here's the thing.

LT had one false start. No missed assignments, no sacks, no hurries. (False start is no lost play, just 5 yard added to a down.)

RT missed some of assignments resulting in one sack (more than 5 yards, and a lost play), a few broken plays and hurries (more lost yardage)

LG / Center missed an assignment resulting in a major hurting on QB (lost confidence, hurt QB, lost yardage)

Guess which one got / will get criticized the most by the Auburn fans?

1:55 PM  
Blogger Eddie said...

At this point, we need to stop critizing Ziemba and compliment him on his consistency. He is good for 1 false start a week.

In all reality, Ziemba has been great this year. He is a major cog to the success of this offense. He just has unfortunate habit of anticipating a snap early once a game.

1:59 PM  
Blogger Aeronaut said...

Thank you Norm. I appreciate it. While being here has it's challenges (my new preferred word instead of 'problems'), my job isn't really too bad. It's pretty high tech, to my liking.

There are unique problems with living in a distant country though... like I can't find regular cotton boxers, and I don't like the knitted variety. ;)

2:02 PM  
Blogger Aeronaut said...

I think we don't need to be overly critical of any student athlete.

And yes .. while every other problem is a challenge, getting used to knitted boxers is a problem.

2:05 PM  
Blogger IV said...

Aero,

I yield to your wishes, I shall cease my reference to my appreciation for your and others in your area serving our country, even though I do appreciate it very much. I shall consider you only an Auburn fan on this blog. BTW, I have never looked at you any different than that status. It's only that you are in service to our country while being an Auburn fan and that is unique as far as I am concerned.

As promised, I have considered your thoughts and comments on the two OT positions on the Auburn football team. Thanks for your thoughts.

2:20 PM  
Blogger WarEagleRK said...

Aero,

I'm going to bring up that Ziemba is good for a penalty or two a game. Sorry if bothers you, but it's the truth. I'm not making it up, I'm not stretching the truth.

Sorry that it bothers you, it's a fact of the game.

You seem to miss every time when people are saying despite the penalties, the kid is playing hard and playing well...you seem to only bring up the one sentence that apparently bothers you.

Even the broadcasters for Auburn last night brought it up and they said they have no idea, it happens at home and on the road that Ziemba will jump a time or two per game. I hope it doesn't upset you when the commentators bring it up as much as it seems to on here.

2:33 PM  
Blogger IV said...

Aero,

This old fish ain't taking your bait. I hope you find someone to start an argument with you, I have better things to do like enjoying last night's win even with all of the mistakes made by almost everyone on the team. Ziemba for President.

2:36 PM  
Blogger Unusually Optimistic jhag said...

They Dyer commitment in two weeks is going to add a head of steam to our recruiting class

2:37 PM  
Blogger Eddie said...

Agreed JHAG. We still have some pretty big recruits on campus that could commit today. I'm keeping my fingers crossed.

2:39 PM  
Blogger diggerforAu said...

The powers to be would probably kick me off any Poll after a short run. If you are going to place teams in weak conferences in the top 10 or 25 after they win a game or two. Then you should ignore the glory teams of years past and put undefeated teams in the top and when they lose they drop below ALL undefeated teams. As the undefeated weak sisters lose they will drop out and you can bring the pretty boys back in.

2:49 PM  
Blogger Aeronaut said...

RK: T-zac, Fannin, Tate, Trott have all dropped passes, Todd has made bad decisions, at least once in a game. Each of those cost a lot more than a false start.

If everything worked perfectly every game will go to overtime with 210 points / team.

I've been resisting to say this but whining about Ziemba's false start is idiotic.

Do you recall how many times these espn commentators showed the Ramsey's chop block? Do you know how often chop blocks happen?

Do you know there was a chop block in the last game, by a WVU guy? Did you see it replayed? even once?

So.. whatever dude. You didn't respond to the original post.

2:53 PM  
Blogger Aeronaut said...

IV. Well you are no fun.

I'm not going to get into an argument with RK here. I guess I'll go watch the second half once again.

ooh the joys of being sick.

2:57 PM  
Blogger IV said...

I am not here to be fun, I am here to have fun. You are trying t spoil my and others fun by your pointless conjecture. Why don't you can it and just be an Auburn fan like you said and let everyone else here be an Auburn fan as well. Don't be idiotic.

3:02 PM  
Blogger Frame said...

this is more of a broken record discussion than Bob Davies and his "moving parts" last night.

3:09 PM  
Blogger IV said...

Frame,

I am through.

3:10 PM  
Blogger §teveFC said...

I very much enjoyed reading through a West Virginia message board today. They had one fan declaring the game over after their second touchdown. They also went from praising some players in the first half and then trashing them in the second. Such is the world of college football I suppose.

Heck, they even trashed their QB, Brown. Yea, 5 INTs stinks, but without him, they wouldn't have been in this game. It was just wonderful to watch how the mood shifted. They are convinced they beat themselves.

They also said that Todd was terrible, but later said that our QB was killing them. Fans are a hoot.

3:11 PM  
Blogger D. Miller said...

War Eagle!




That is all. Good day folks, good day!

3:12 PM  
Blogger THT 2.0 said...

Beasley!

3:17 PM  
Blogger Eddie said...

Nice 2.0. Your Dad would be proud.

3:19 PM  
Blogger WarEagleRK said...

Aero,

You seem to have so much angst over nothing at all. Maybe I'm reading too much into the tone of the post.

Again, you don't notice or remark on everyone also saying Ziemba is playing very well, you just want to jump (maybe early) when someone comments on penalties.

I do think it's funny that you were critical in your first post despite you not wanting to be critical of college athletes, but hey who am I to call you out on that one?

3:25 PM  
Blogger Aeronaut said...

My apologies, IV. I like your tone though.. suits you better than the previous one. ;)

----

Yep, SteveFC. I noticed that too, specially on the game thread (WeMustIgniteThisCouch)

This isn't some kind of disrespect to the rest of WV team, but JB is just such an important cog (or as Mack Brown calls it, clog) on the offense they didn't stand a chance without him.

3:34 PM  
Blogger Sensi said...

Aero

Noel Devine.
Jock Sanders.

Those guys are player you'll see on a Sunday soon.

'Nuff said.

3:39 PM  
Blogger §teveFC said...

I see where the announcers mentioned we began the transition to the spread last season. I found that kind of funny, because last season is what made it such a risky call for Chizik to hire an OC that ran anything resembling the spread. It was ballsy of Jacobs to hire him.

3:44 PM  
Blogger Aeronaut said...

Ofcourse, Sensi.

Ben Tate, Mario Fannin. Those are the players you'll see on a Sunday soon. However Todd gives Auburn the best chance to win.

In my opinion Jarrett Brown gave them the best chance to win the game.

4:05 PM  
Blogger AUfan said...

The one bright spot on special teams would have to be the return of a confident Wes Byrum. I couldn't believe a long FG was attempted after the flood Saturday, but Byrum nailed it. He has been a pleasant surprise in a not very good year thus far for special teams.

4:07 PM  
Blogger §teveFC said...

You aren't going to see Todd playing on Sundays, but I was impressed with him against WV. Yea, I saw some bad throws, but he didn't make the mistakes that kill you and we basically won the game on his arm. Who would have thought noodles could taste so good?

4:08 PM  
Blogger WarEagleRK said...

Aufan,

We also had a punt return for positive yardage once last night, so that's a step forward as well.

However our kickoff coverage and returns seem to leave a lot to be desired...especailly when we have a coach who is dedicated to special teams.

4:08 PM  
Blogger Aeronaut said...

On punt returns,

Corey Grant was also visiting Auburn last Saturday and said he wants to take an official visit to Auburn.

We seem to have an awkward relationship with a lot of former targets that have committed to other schools.

4:11 PM  
Blogger Loganville Tiger said...

Yep Steve - I thought Todd made some good decisions last night.

4:14 PM  
Blogger AUfan said...

RK, I couldn't agree more regarding a special teams coach. I thought the special teams would be much improved with a coach dedicated to special teams only, but it hasn't worked out that way. I'm hoping things improve, but you have to wonder after seeing the same issues occur time after time.

4:14 PM  
Blogger AllenD said...

JGT - why still no love for AU in the polls? Realize, winning will take care of itself, but Kansas, Washington, North Carolina? Hard to compare apples for apples, but think AU wins > wins by some of these.

Washington with a big win, but they beat second string QB on a USC team that doesn't seem to have the identity of previous USC teams.

It is your ballot however.

Serious question - How do you think most pollsters fill them out? Based on what they see on ESPN highlights?, based on perception? the boutique pick of the moment(buzz)? perceived record based on schedule and trying to pick where they are expected to finish? Just curious as to how you think these guys make their picks, they cannot be watching all of the games and at some point ESPN becomes the kingmakers based on which highlights they show (and Herbstreet does have AU ranked).

4:16 PM  
Blogger Jet says Save the Couches! said...

It'll take a win in Knoxville to get in the poll. But don't worry. Enjoy this team. They may win 7-8-9 games, but you know they will battle. When the depth fills out, look out.

4:19 PM  
Blogger Loganville Tiger said...

I know you can't do this - but take out the INT's - WVU had some pretty impressive stat's.

4:25 PM  
Blogger §teveFC said...

Actually, I am feeling a bit better about our depth, especially on defense. We have played a lot of people.

As for the polls, keep in mind that we have not beaten a top 25 team. While I think West Virginia will eventually be fairly highly ranked, assume Brown comes back, but they aren't there yet. Be patient. I see a dominating performance against UT coming. If we force them to pass, game over dude.

4:28 PM  
Blogger §teveFC said...

What has impressed me is the low number of mistakes we are making. We have had one interception. With the number of deep balls Todd has thrown, I wouldn't blame him if we had 4 or 5 INTs at this point.

Also, we aren't fumbling and the penalties weren't a problem against WV. I read that last season against MSU we had seven penalties between two offensive line players. You do that and you cripple your offense. We are playing smart football.

4:31 PM  
Blogger Jay G. Tate said...

AllenD: You watch my poll. You know how I vote. You think I should drop North Carolina to make room for Auburn?

Washington just beat the No. 3 team.

Kansas ... watched em twice so far and they have a good team there. I consider them better than Auburn at this point.

4:32 PM  
Blogger coosa said...

AllenD - I agree; I'm surprised AU isn't ranked. IF we didn't knock their QB out for several games, then I think WV wins the Big East and finishes in the top 10. And then everyone will wonder why an 11 point win over a team that good didn't get us ranked.

And BYU will continue to clobber their weak competition and maintain a high ranking, even though they got murdered at home by an ACC team that very nearly lost to Jax State. Maybe Jax State ought to be ranked.

I'd rank AU ahead of most of the 2-1 teams, and several of the 3-0 teams that are ranked.

If we beat TN, we'll only be beating an unranked 2 loss team; ditto ARK. It may take an 8-0 start to get us in. ;)

4:37 PM  
Blogger WarEagleRK said...

We beat UT on the road and sit at 5-0, we'll be ranked.

Depending on what happens to ranked teams next week, we could go in at 4-0.

It really doesn't matter.

4:39 PM  
Blogger Wakeriderof87 said...

I don't understand what you have seen to put Pitt in the top 10, I haven't watched them play, so maybe you have seen something I haven't. But they haven't beaten anybody all that impressive, and they lost their top producer from last year.

And Yes I think Auburn looks much better than UNC at this point.

4:39 PM  
Blogger AllenD said...

Jay, any thoughts regarding the last part of my diatribe? Any idea on how your counterparts assemilate (hmmm, sp?) data for their vote? As a team that wasn't expected to do much, yet a 3-0 team, we don't get much in the way of video highlights, nor buzz.

4:44 PM  
Blogger coosa said...

Jay - 3 specifically: BYU, GA Tech, FSU. What has any of them done to deserve to be ranked over AU?

Obviously, the rest of the world agrees with you and not me, but I'm used to that.

4:46 PM  
Blogger IV said...

I honestly wished that they didn't even start ranking teams until about week 6 of the season. That would give teams time to either show what they do or what they don't have. It would also give time to weed out the pretenders and set up the real contenders.

I don't think Auburn should be ranked yet because I feel that what we have proven so far is that we are not a mediocre SEC team and at best, we are a good, not a very good, but a good team. I am proud of them especially for the fight they put up last night. If they continue to play like that, don't give up and continue to improve, they will be ranked before the season is over. I sincerely doubt that we would win a game against a ranked opponent if we played overall as we did last night. Nevertheless WAR EAGLE, go get them TIGERS.

4:47 PM  
Blogger AllenD said...

Think UNC gets much love for their HC - probably too much love.

Some of the national guys don't have them ranked as highly.

4:49 PM  
Blogger Greg said...

Washington?!?

In the top 25?!?


While I understand that they beat a mediocre/overrated USC team, I think it is ridiculous to think they are the 25th best team in college football

4:54 PM  
Blogger AllenD said...

IV - agree, wish polls didn't start until Oct.

Jury is still out on AU. I'll say that about many of the teams in the top 25. So at some point it's perception and good PR.

As painful as it is for me to say (blasphemous), I think alabammer would beat the Florida team that played yesterday.

4:55 PM  
Blogger Aeronaut said...

I don't understand some of the pollsters. Like.. who the hell ranked Nebraska #25?

they have beaten the mighty Florida Atlantic and Arkansas State, and lost to VTech.

4:55 PM  
Blogger IV said...

Allen D,

It pains me also to say it, but I agree, yesterday, the evil empire would probably would have beaten the Florida team that played UT yesterday.

4:58 PM  
Blogger §teveFC said...

It is hard to compare AU with UNC. Both West Virginia and UNC beat ECU by about the same margin. We beat West Virginia. Does that mean we are better than UNC? No. There is such a thing as matchups. We are fine where we currently are ranked. Beating Ball State will mean nothing, but a convincing win against Tennessee should get us in the polls.

5:02 PM  
Blogger AllenD said...

Replay on CSS

5:03 PM  
Blogger IV said...

I feel that so far, AU has proven that it is better than MSU and Vandy, the mediocre teams of the West and East. I think maybe we have proven that we can play with the likes of Tenn., Arky, SC and Kentucky. We will have our opportunities to prove that we can play with UGA, Ole Miss, LSU and Bummer. So give it time, we will be ranked if we deserve it.

5:04 PM  
Blogger AllenD said...

sans rain delay

5:04 PM  
Blogger §teveFC said...

Washington definitely deserves to be in the top 25. They hung close with number 11 LSU and beat number 3 USC.

5:04 PM  
Blogger AllenD said...

for all of you that didn't get enough of Davie the first time (or missed him)

5:05 PM  
Blogger AllenD said...

I'm waiting to see if I think LSU should really be number 11 too. I'm thinking 14ish. Talent but some missing identity.

5:07 PM  
Blogger §teveFC said...

I do view LSU as a team with a good chance to belly flop. Their wins haven't been that convincing. They have MSU next week but then Georgia followed by Florida. Unfortunately they have a week off before they play us.

5:09 PM  
Blogger Jay G. Tate said...

New thread UPZ.

5:11 PM  
Blogger chip chip said...

let's just win 'em all. then we don't have to worry about rankings.

oh wait, this is AU, so we do have to worry about rankings...

we better hope UF, OU, USC etc. lose two each if we go undefeated. then we may (grudgingly and against espn's wishes) get a BCS invite over them.

5:13 PM  
Blogger Aeronaut said...

AllenD

You can save a lot of time by watching the game on the web instead of CSS. No commercials / breaks, entire game in 1.5 hours and you can rewind.

All game's videos are hosted on SEC's website. You can get the video (I think it's second from the top) here:
http://www.secdigitalnetwork.com/video/auburn.aspx

5:13 PM  
Blogger Jay G. Tate said...

Wake, you're going to get on me for Pitt now? I've had them at 15 or higher the whole way.

Be real: You don't care until you think Auburn is getting snubbed, then my logic doesn't make sense.

Washington just beat the No. 3 team.

Oklahoma is good. Period.

All the teams from 20-30 are approximately the same right now. I just don't see Auburn as one of the top 25 teams right now.

5:15 PM  
Blogger AllenD said...

What was our snap count yesterday? lots of meerkat.

did eltoro overrun plays, play out of position?, or? didn't hear his name called often (at all?). Seems like I remember him overrunning a play or two.

5:17 PM  
Blogger AllenD said...

For instance, Eltoro missed a sure tackle (along with six or so of his friends) on ND on that long romp up the middle.

5:19 PM  
Blogger GulfShoresTiger said...

If we beat TN we will be ranked.

Reasons we don't deserve to be ranked now:
1. Not-so-special special teams
2. Slow, sloppy starts
3. Inability to run on WVU
4. Roof-is-falling, Jekyll and Hyde defense
5. We haven't beaten a team that deserves to be ranked

Reasons we should be ranked:
1. 3-0, 1-0
2. Take away 2008 and we would be. It's all about perception.

NOTE: beating TN won't be easy.

5:27 PM  
Blogger Tar Heel Tiger said...

THT is indeed very proud of 2.0's timely post at 3:17 pm (CDT)!

6:12 PM  

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