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12.03.2009

Big Cat Weekend: Maybe Not The Best Idea Ever

Hey everyone. So Auburn today released requested information about Big Cat Weekend and the punishments levied by the Southeastern Conference for secondary violations associated with that event.

The documents are numerous. As we like to do on the HABOTN, let's just do a tidy summary.

  • Big Cat Weekend occurred on Saturday, May 30, 2009.

  • It occurred during a weekend when 23 PSAs (that's how the NCAA refers to prospective student athletes) gathered at Auburn and learned about the program.

  • After those officially sanctioned activities ended, Auburn officials reported that eight of those PSAs attended an "impromptu" event at Toomer's Corner. Fans gathered, recruits were announced to the crowd, Aubie was there, trees were rolled. A good time was had by all.

  • PSAs are not permitted to attend an event like that. It's considered a "simulated game-day activity". It's also wrong to announce the names of PSAs . It's also wrong to for PSAs to be in the presence of boosters.

  • Those are secondary violations.

  • Auburn reported those violations to the SEC on June 30, 2009.

  • Here's what Auburn self imposed:
    • Auburn agreed to conduct "multiple education sessions" for athletic employees regarding NCAA rules.

    • Auburn agreed to provide literature for boosters to better understand their prohibition from PSA contact.

    • Auburn also eliminated one official visit for each of the eight PSAs who attended the Toomer's Corner celebration.

    • Auburn provided a written letter of reprimand to Trooper Taylor. (I don't understand why Taylor was singled out; six assistant coaches attended the event)

  • The SEC responded on July 31, 2009.

  • The SEC accepted Auburn's self-imposed sanctions, then added a few more:
    • The SEC banned Auburn from meeting with six PSAs until Sept. 15, 2009: Jessel Curry, Kahiri Fortt, Eric Mack, Trovon Reed, Marcus Lattimore, Lache Seastrunk.

      (*Auburn never identified the other two PSAs who attended the event.)

    • The SEC limited Auburn to one phone call to each of those six PSAs in September.

    • The SEC banned Taylor from all off-campus recruiting activities through Nov. 30, 2009.

    • The SEC asked that each of the six assistant coaches who attended the event (Taylor, Jay Boulware, Jeff Grimes, Curtis Luper, Tommy Thigpen, Gus Malzahn) receive written reprimands.

  • Auburn complied with all that.

  • The NCAA then reviewed all that and decided the punishment fit the trangressions.

  • Now you know.

221 Comments:

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Blogger Kathy said...

Double standards

8:13 PM  
Blogger Kathy said...

So Trooper hasn't been able to recruit off campus since May?

8:15 PM  
Blogger Eddie said...

I still disagree. Big Cat Weekend was a big hit. The 8 official visits were worth it for all the publicity it generated. The rolling of Toomer's, not so much.

8:16 PM  
Blogger Kathy said...

I don't have a problem with Big Cat Weekend either. Great recruiting vehicle.

8:24 PM  
Blogger Jay G. Tate said...

Kathy, that is correct.

8:24 PM  
Blogger wtc said...

Everyone sure Rollinson is grades related. I hear totally different.

8:26 PM  
Blogger Jay G. Tate said...

wtc: I didn't hear grades.

8:26 PM  
Blogger wtc said...

Lots of recruiting info out there today. I'll try to get everyone updated with what I know.

8:26 PM  
Blogger wtc said...

AU is triyng to squeeze some kids to make a decision sooner rather than later. They really do not want to wait until NSD before they know if they are getitng someone.

8:28 PM  
Blogger FSJ said...

If wtc says it ain't grades...I'm going with that.

8:28 PM  
Blogger Eddie said...

WTC- I'm not sure on grades. Just what was being said and that a suspension was coming. The only thing that would lead you to believe it isn't grades would be the fact that Finals haven't started yet if I heard correctly. I would bet your side is probably correct, but I haven't heard anything else.

8:29 PM  
Blogger FearlessFreep said...

OK, if you hear different, can you tell us what you are hearing?

wtc, I'm assuming you are not under any prohibition of unsourced rumormongering imposed by the Montgomery Advertiser legal dept, so this question was directed to you.

8:30 PM  
Blogger Jay G. Tate said...

Yea. wtc is not bound by my rules.

8:30 PM  
Blogger wtc said...

Could Malzahn pull a big recruit from LSU?

Lockup Whittaker from GA. He is in the fold.

If Beasley (Clemson commit) changes his mind on his upcoming official, we are done at the LB position. Looks like CJ Moseley and Petey Smith will be pals on the sidelines for a few years if Beasley come over.

8:31 PM  
Blogger Kathy said...

wtc, what LSU recruit?

I don't blame them for not wanting to wait until signing day. You can only commit 28 this year correct?

On Rollison, I heard he wasn't attending class, but that's just hear-say.

8:33 PM  
Blogger wtc said...

Is that good or bad JayG?

8:34 PM  
Blogger Eddie said...

WTC- you talking about a DE?

8:34 PM  
Blogger wtc said...

Eddie-I think he plays TE.

8:35 PM  
Blogger Jay G. Tate said...

WTC, you can say what you want.

8:35 PM  
Blogger Kathy said...

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8:35 PM  
Blogger wtc said...

Eddie I think he plays TE. Last name is Dickson. His bro plays at LSU.

LSU is close to unloading it's offensive staff.

8:36 PM  
Blogger wtc said...

There was something that occured of campus. Think ESmith without the sucker punch.

8:37 PM  
Blogger wtc said...

Kathy-I did not say that about Dyer earlier today. i heard it but do not believe it is true.

8:37 PM  
Blogger Kathy said...

wtc, are you kidding me? Another fight? Crazy....

8:37 PM  
Blogger Kathy said...

Someone told me they didn't think Dyer would qualify, but I haven't heard anything about his grades at all. Have you?

8:38 PM  
Blogger wtc said...

Athletic dept now thinks all recruits are going to qualify so far. If so, they have room for 5 more in this class for 2010.

8:39 PM  
Blogger wtc said...

The kid from Linden, AL was the question but he has made enough progress at this new school to make it in.
Dyer is avery good student. no problems with him at all.

8:40 PM  
Blogger Eddie said...

WTC- I just saw Travis's bio. Is that why they are planning to now gray shirt Dakota?

Interesting. I hear Crowton is out at LSU. Any truth?

8:42 PM  
Blogger Kathy said...

Thank you wtc! Great news about qualifiers. Can't waste those LOI any more.

8:42 PM  
Blogger Kathy said...

OK, wtc and Eddie, y'all are making my head spin with all this news tonight.

8:43 PM  
Blogger Eddie said...

Jay G- What's your opinion on whether you think Tubs will be UGA's new DC?

8:44 PM  
Blogger wtc said...

AU is pushing hard for an OL named Roszell Gaysden. I've been told if he comes, he will start day one. He is very good. (6'7" 310lbs)

8:44 PM  
Blogger Eddie said...

WTC- i've heard the same thing. That would be awesome to get that big OL. We need him.

8:45 PM  
Blogger wtc said...

Eddie-do not get on the Rollinson express just yet. Look out for the Moseley Express. Not sayin' anything, but the kid is a winner everywhere he has been.

8:46 PM  
Blogger ehyou said...

Good grief. So much for a random Thursday.

8:47 PM  
Blogger Eddie said...

WTC- so you are buying what Chizik may have said about Mosely yesterday. I heard that. I hope he is right, but I still don't put much stock in the Mosely express just yet. With that said, the Rollison Express has been derailed again.

8:48 PM  
Blogger D. Miller said...

Only question about whether Dyer would qualify is whether he would qualify to enroll in Jan, or wait until the summer to come.... I think it ends up being the summer.



Rollison + SkyBar = suspension...
SkyBar is not supposed to admit anyone under 19...

WTC... Dickson would be a good addition, but where does he fit in the class... we don't have many spaces left to fill that aren't already slotted....

For some reason the staff likes Beasley more than CJ Mosley.... it is their choice of who to take. But, again, where do they fit in?

2 DT, 1 DE, 3 OL, 2 CB... that fills the 8 remaining spots would have... and that means 3 people have to be sign and place... Where do we have room for another LB and a TE?

8:49 PM  
Blogger diggerforAu said...

Almost too much info from JGT and all the other Hotties. Love it keep it coming. Don't mean to make light of the bad info but I love getting info early.

8:51 PM  
Blogger D. Miller said...

Coaches love Mosely... he is definitely one to keep an eye on in the QB race this spring. Coaches have raved about how he has ran the scout team this fall...

Gayden is a May qualifier... unless he is knocked off his feet at Cal this weekend, he would be AU's to lose, IMO.

8:52 PM  
Blogger Eddie said...

D. Miller- where does Dakota Mosely fit in your numbers. I'm reading gray shirt possibility.

8:53 PM  
Blogger Eddie said...

So Kansas coach Mangino resigned. Way to go Kansas. Force out the only coach who brought you real success in my lifetime. Welcome back to Vandy status in the Big 12.

8:55 PM  
Blogger wtc said...

DMiller-He could fill Trotts role. He and Lutz will play that role.

8:55 PM  
Blogger FSJ said...

Here's a rumor I heard....

Both Bama and Auburn will have top 5 recruiting classes this year......

8:57 PM  
Blogger Eddie said...

FSJ- I hope you are right for once.

8:58 PM  
Blogger Mark said...

The only violation of any consequence is Trooper not being able to recruit off campus. The rest are not that big of a deal.

Based on the pub, the Tigers obtained, I would say it was worth the penalties to have committed the violations.

8:59 PM  
Blogger wtc said...

FSJ-You mentioned earlier that Sal could be leaving. I hear Jimbo Fisher is waiting until Sunday to call. Also hear that if some will pay the same thing, and I do not know what he is paid, McElwain wants to go back out west.

8:59 PM  
Blogger Kristina said...

Here's a rumor I heard:

Zookeeper is going to eat too many m&m's tonight.

8:59 PM  
Blogger wtc said...

Rumor has it R grner asked Richt about the DC job and he was turned down. Look for him to show up at FSU, IMO.

9:00 PM  
Blogger benjamin said...

Tyrik is due to grades. He also was not at Skybar with the other players for the birthday earlier this week.

9:00 PM  
Blogger Mark said...

Hey, FSJ, are you still on TI as well under the same name?

9:00 PM  
Blogger FSJ said...

wtc,

You are correct on Sal....

I've read that McElwain is trying to get some of the lower level HC jobs this year.

I don't think Kirby leaves FWIW..but I could be wrong.

9:00 PM  
Blogger wtc said...

Mark-the off campus recruting thing has already passed I believe, if I read the story coreectly.

9:01 PM  
Blogger Mark said...

wtc, I got the distinct impression, that CNS has not been happy with McElwaine's playcalling lately.

9:02 PM  
Blogger wtc said...

I heard Richt my go after him, from Barnhardt, but I doubt he would leave.

9:02 PM  
Blogger D. Miller said...

Eddie... I have not heard gray shirt for Dakota... it would certainly help.

My math:
Right now we have 22 commitments. Curry and Sanders plan to enroll in Jan. so that makes 20 currently to count towards the 2010 class. That includes Dakota. With him, I figured a redshirt year to beef up to OL size.
28 limit minus the 20 current leaves 8 spots left to fill.

9:02 PM  
Blogger diggerforAu said...

The Civil War is a good game so far State 13 Oregon 14

9:02 PM  
Blogger Eddie said...

WTC- that's what I heard about Gardner. Looks like he is on shakey grounds with UGA at best. That is funny. Richt is in panic mode if he loses Gardner. Gardner will make it personal to take as many recruits with him as possible.

9:02 PM  
Blogger FSJ said...

Reese's pieces > m&m's...

At least according to Abbie.

I don't eat that stuff.

9:03 PM  
Blogger wtc said...

Dmiller-the onlyproblem is you can only get 25 in so you have room to get 8 commits but only 5 can get in for 2010.
Is that not correct?

9:04 PM  
Blogger Jay G. Tate said...

That OL from College of the Sequoias ... been on their list for months.

9:04 PM  
Blogger patdyeswildturkey said...

hey guys,

Topics:

1. Rollison- guy who has inside knowledge(like they all do) said Rollison got intoa fight. They guy claimed to be friends with Phillip Lutz and he said Tyrick got into a fight, but a guy on here said it was grades so who knows.

2. Big Cat Weekend- well worth it, we needed to make a big splash with recruits and get our new name and staff out there.

3. LSU-My best friend is an LSU freak, he is on all the sites and some inside guy they all swear is right and comes on only with big news said the same thing that LSU is shaking up the offensive staff.

9:05 PM  
Blogger D. Miller said...

I understand the role Dickson would play... he is an athletic TE, good blocker...
But, how does he fit into the math portion of the test?

9:05 PM  
Blogger D. Miller said...

WTC...correct about the 28/25 thing...

Even thought the staff expects all of their commits to qualify, they actually need 3 to be sign and place...

9:07 PM  
Blogger Mark said...

D. Miller, why couldn't some count towards last year?

9:07 PM  
Blogger Eddie said...

PDWT- LSU freak is awesome at what he does.

Lache Seastrunk- there seem to be tea leafs that still point him torwards Auburn, but it seems like everyone else seems to beleve Lattimore is the back AU is going after hard.

9:08 PM  
Blogger wtc said...

DMiller:
2 DT, 1 DE, 3 OL, 2 CB

DT: Whitaker and Thornton
DE: KAdmas if Lemonier doesn;t decide quickly
OL: Mack, Gayden, Stone, Cullen
CB: Mike Harris, Eric Russell, J. Robertson

Those are thepones I think they are hitting hard.
The russell kid is a top KR/PR in JUCO and said he loves to do it.

9:08 PM  
Blogger scottie b celebrates '89. said...

NCAA....BBBBOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!

9:09 PM  
Blogger Eddie said...

D. miller- the only thing that makes sense would be the potential gray shirt of Dakota. Rivals has listed that as a real option for him. Shocked me when I saw it.

9:09 PM  
Blogger D. Miller said...

They visited with Dequan Menzie this week... hoping he can come in as a Jan enrollee... Brandon Mosely - OL as possible Jan enrollee...Lawrence Gibson as a possible Jan enrollee...

Cullen and Gayden would both be May qualifiers. I only see them taking one of them, and right now, I think they prefer Gayden.

9:10 PM  
Blogger patdyeswildturkey said...

Eddie,

Agreed, Lattimore goes elsewhere, but Seastrunk is who I want, he has been quiet, I bet he signs in Feb., also I am excited to see our recruits and potential recruits down here next weekend in Mobile for the AL/MS classic.

9:10 PM  
Blogger wtc said...

Seastrunk has scheduled an official visit with AU. Seastrunk did not have a good of a year as projected. His mom told someone at LSU that he and reed were going to college together. LSU boards are all in a tizzy about it.
Dyer likes Lattimore alot. Looks like AU staff is all in with Lattimore but I just can't tell about the Seastrunk thing.

9:12 PM  
Blogger FSJ said...

Crap...

I forgot the BBQ show was on...... grrrrrrrr..

9:13 PM  
Blogger FearlessFreep said...

OK, color me confused.

I thought the new 28 rule only counted for the current year's class.

Which means we could actually sign 33 total - five who qualify in time to count on last years class, 3 to sign & place (or greyshirt) and 25 to get P.A.I.D. to play in the fall.

Am I off base?

9:14 PM  
Blogger patdyeswildturkey said...

i dont math after 5 p.m.

9:15 PM  
Blogger D. Miller said...

Mark... the 28/25 that I mentioned is seperate from the 5 that they will bring in as Jan enrollees to count back.


WTC... I think we're both thinking along the same lines.

DT: Whitaker, Thornton or Bryan Jones
DE: Only way they take Adams is if he comes in as a Jan enrollee... Lemonier in May
OL: Gayden, Stone, Mack
DB: Russell (if he can come in as Jan enrollee) Darius Robinson, Brad Roby

9:15 PM  
Blogger Eddie said...

WTC- those be the tea leafs I was talking about. Just get one of them. I'm ready for the return of the Mack. He needs to swith commitments.

9:16 PM  
Blogger patdyeswildturkey said...

also, does anyone know where I can buy some cousin eddie white shoes from the national lampoons movies, I would pay top dollar for them.,

9:16 PM  
Blogger D. Miller said...

Feerless... you're right... only catch is that the 5 that count backwards would have to be January enrollees.

9:18 PM  
Blogger Carmela said...

Mark is right. Well worth it.

9:20 PM  
Blogger wtc said...

Dmiller-I don't think the Jones kid gets an offer. Unless one of the two in GA do not come.

9:20 PM  
Blogger Eddie said...

83

9:22 PM  
Blogger wtc said...

DMiller-You are on top of it. It is tuogh to figure who is in the 09 and the 10 class.

9:23 PM  
Blogger Eddie said...

84

9:23 PM  
Blogger Eddie said...

86

9:23 PM  
Blogger Eddie said...

87

9:23 PM  
Blogger Eddie said...

Beasly!!!

9:23 PM  
Blogger Eddie said...

Good night all. Early workout in the am ad always. Someone push 4 am back for me.

9:24 PM  
Blogger Carmela said...

You already can't make it to class? That's a problem.

9:26 PM  
Blogger FearlessFreep said...

I did, Eddie, back on the first Sunday in November.

The Federal Gummint only lets me do that once a year, so long as I put it back every spring.

9:26 PM  
Blogger FearlessFreep said...

Or put it forward.

Dang, I always get confused. Maybe they should give the job to a younger guy.

9:27 PM  
Blogger D. Miller said...

WTC... I agree about the Jones kid... he is a fall back in case they miss on Thornton.
However, with the staff upheaval at UGA, I think it helps us considerably with him.

9:27 PM  
Blogger patdyeswildturkey said...

was it the sociology class carnell and the players were in a few years back? lol..:)

9:28 PM  
Blogger Carmela said...

Fearless please make tomorrow Saturday?

9:28 PM  
Blogger FearlessFreep said...

In the meantime, if you're not watching ESPN (or following the action on 360) you are missing some stellar QB play, and very little defense.

You don't often see two teams successfully run their two-minute offense for a TD in the same two-minute period.

9:30 PM  
Blogger patdyeswildturkey said...

Go Gators...and Tebow...

9:30 PM  
Blogger FSJ said...

Freep,

What do you think about Saturday's game?

9:31 PM  
Blogger Jay G. Tate said...

Jeremiah Masoli: It came down to Auburn and Oregon.

Tony Franklin liked him a lot.

9:32 PM  
Blogger FearlessFreep said...

I'd rather have made yesterday Saturday, but that would have made Saturday Monday. I don't know if I could handle that.

9:32 PM  
Blogger D. Miller said...

Malzahn supposedly met with the Jones kid this week while in Arkansas recruiting.


Trooper had an in-home visit with Lemonier today.

9:33 PM  
Blogger Carmela said...

It sounded so simple when I asked for it.

9:33 PM  
Blogger patdyeswildturkey said...

Tate, Masoli would not grow his sideburns like Franklin liked them so he chose Chris Todd.

9:33 PM  
Blogger Carmela said...

I think I'll play hooky tomorrow and shop.

9:35 PM  
Blogger patdyeswildturkey said...

its hard to work during the holidays....

9:36 PM  
Blogger Peter "Big Snacks" Frankenschmidt said...

wow, the 10 sided dice are out and rolling today...who brought the dungeouns master guide?

9:37 PM  
Blogger Carmela said...

let's play hooky pat

9:37 PM  
Blogger FearlessFreep said...

Honestly, Faker, I'm stumped.

Two weeks ago I thought Bama would win with relative ease. After watching them struggle to score against the worst defense in the SEC, I'm starting to lean the other way.

But when situations like this arise, I look at the historical trends, i.e.:

- In the entire history of the SEC, Bama has never gone an entire decade without at least one conference championship.

- Since Paul W. Bryant returned to the Capstone, only one Bama HC has failed to win an SEC championship by the end of his third season.

Plus, I think all the Tebow adulation may bring the Gators some well-deserved bad karma.

So I think Bama pulls it off. Call it a hunch.

9:38 PM  
Blogger Mullets=Bammers said...

If we are able to get the guys you all are saying then we should be really close to pushing for that top spot. On Mack I have heard that he really wants to come to Au but has a baby and that is what is keeping him from making the switch.

9:38 PM  
Blogger patdyeswildturkey said...

carmela, i play hooky everyday, my boss just doesnt know it until i turn in my expense reports..:)

9:38 PM  
Blogger Peter "Big Snacks" Frankenschmidt said...

PDWT,

I'm your man. Was just shoe shoppng a few days ago, and saw lots of white shoes on the racks....refresh my memory, were Eddie's shoes bucks or loafers?

9:39 PM  
Blogger Carmela said...

Sounds like you have a good situation.

9:39 PM  
Blogger patdyeswildturkey said...

Pete, Loafers, I have looked at goodwill, no suck luck.

Carmela, I do, insurance is recession proof, so its not so bad.

9:41 PM  
Blogger George W. Jet said...

To me, Big Cat Weekend was like staying past curfew for the BEST TIME EVER in high school.

(If you know what I mean.)

Mom and Dad ground you for two weeks. And you've got a grin plastered all over your face the whole two weeks.

9:44 PM  
Blogger Peter "Big Snacks" Frankenschmidt said...

Aldo carries a pair of white loafers that you can probably get online, as does Allen Edmonds (but for a much higher price)...if you're serious, though, I saw some at DSW here for 70% off I could probably hook you up with. They had around 5 styles of white loafers in every size....I hate white shoes.

9:46 PM  
Blogger wtc said...

PDWT-WHo are you with in that business? What type do you handle?

9:47 PM  
Blogger D. Miller said...

wow... if the word from the who's is accurate... count Seastrunk into the equation...

Supposedly Seastrunk's mom made a comment recently that Lache and Trovon will be playing together in college...

9:48 PM  
Blogger Carmela said...

They shouldn't even be manufactured.

9:48 PM  
Blogger patdyeswildturkey said...

pete, writing it down, there is an ugly christmas sweater party i go to, so it needs to be legit, eddie outfit and all.

9:49 PM  
Blogger Peter "Big Snacks" Frankenschmidt said...

wow, talking about shoes sounds really gay (notthatthere'sanythingwrong withthat).

9:49 PM  
Blogger Jay G. Tate said...

I love this: The new hit -- "Can You Take Your Name Off Your Phone?"

9:49 PM  
Blogger patdyeswildturkey said...

wtc-commercial

9:49 PM  
Blogger FSJ said...

LMAO!!!!

9:50 PM  
Blogger Bear82 said...

#1. TR--No class = No play. Simple as that. You are getting free room, board, clothes, medical attention, training, and other "perks" in return for going to class. Not too shabby.
#2. Bama will lose by 14. Sorry FSJ, just the truth IMO. Tebow, love or hate him, wins. His teammates believe in him. They follow him. Oh yeah, and CBS wants to have his baby.
#3. Trooper was in Mobile earlier this week. Don't know why, but he was at a HS bball game down here.
#4. NL Christmas Vacation is the best holiday movie ever put onto film.
#5. ummm, I am stumped for now.

9:51 PM  
Blogger WarEagleRK said...

Wow, here I was posting in the old thread wondering where everyone had gone.

9:53 PM  
Blogger WarEagleRK said...

Warning, the address below contains censored (and some uncensored) bad language, but is really funny.

http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/040acb5ffa/princess-and-the-homeboy-gdog-from-yourmomsayshi

9:53 PM  
Blogger patdyeswildturkey said...

Bear,

Who was Trooper in town watching or meeting with>?

9:53 PM  
Blogger WarEagleRK said...

If wtc says it's not grades related, then I'll go with it not being grades related.

Hopefully Rollison will update his twitter or facebook while we can anxiously await his words.

9:55 PM  
Blogger wtc said...

Don't forget,they have a leg up this week becasue UAT has to practice and entertain the coaches for the super 6. AU gets a week on the road. I am sure they would rtade that for the SEC champ game, but that will come later I hope.
i would say he was seeing CJ Moseley if I was guessing.

9:57 PM  
Blogger Kristina said...

So I don't remember who was complaining about alabama running illegal pick plays in the iron bowl, but not sure how we can complain about that and then think Big Cat weekend was OK.

I totally think it was worth it, btw. Absolutely. Just curious what the difference is??

9:57 PM  
Blogger Wakeriderof87 said...

The difference is the Refs didn't call them. I have no problem with a offense choosing to run a play they may be called for, but the refs should call it.

9:59 PM  
Blogger jhag said...

FSU just took a 4 star DB from Bama, Mike Harris, ROLL TRIBE!

10:00 PM  
Blogger Carmela said...

That is hilarious.

10:00 PM  
Blogger Wakeriderof87 said...

To the Auburn faithful, I'm sorry. I will get this issue corrected. I want all yall to know I expect more of myself and things will turn around. WAR EAGLE!!!

Tyrik Rollison

I still like this kid.

10:00 PM  
Blogger Peter "Big Snacks" Frankenschmidt said...

difference between secondary violations and on-the-field cheating?

10:01 PM  
Blogger Bear82 said...

pdwt- not a clue.. a student of mine came in wednesday and said his dad was at a game and called him, and then TT was on the other end telling him war eagle and how they were working on a #1 team for next year. the kid didn;t know what game his dad was at... kid's only a 7th grader..they're kinda dumb at that age, and they really don't pay attention to where their parents are at.. sorry..

10:02 PM  
Blogger FSJ said...

cheating is cheating..right?

10:02 PM  
Blogger George W. Jet said...

Rose are red,
Big Cats will wear blue,
If we sign studs,
NCAA, go hump your cousin.

10:03 PM  
Blogger wtc said...

Most good teams run pick plays all the time. They hardly get called unless they are @ the goal line.

UAT runs one where the ref is the pick. I like that idea. Maybe AU can run it next year.

I saw the 'no call holding' on Zeimba and was fine with it. I wanted the block in the back call on Carpenter on the flair pass, on UAT side of the ball, where AU got a facemask penalty.

Most calls work themselves out. Those happened out in the open and was surprised neither was called.

I have no problem with the BCW stuff. Secondary violations are like Ruffles with Ridges, you just can't have one.

10:03 PM  
Blogger patdyeswildturkey said...

heard that the under armour h.s. all-star game will be around the same time and place as our bowl game. good recruiting time.

10:04 PM  
Blogger Carmela said...

Wakerider where that come from?

10:04 PM  
Blogger ehyou said...

Whatever Auburn does is golden.

Whatever Bama does is despicable.

This applies to all circumstances.

10:05 PM  
Blogger FSJ said...

exactly wtc..

I've never seen a pick play called that wasn't near the end zone.

10:05 PM  
Blogger Peter "Big Snacks" Frankenschmidt said...

I'm not foolish enough to think that the kid who steals a bag of candy has commited as much of wrong as Bernard Maddoff.

10:06 PM  
Blogger Wakeriderof87 said...

Facebook Carmela, I'm a loser who is friends with some of our football players.

10:06 PM  
Blogger wtc said...

Dmiller-Harris is off the board now. Next.

10:06 PM  
Blogger patdyeswildturkey said...

bear, i know what you mean, many people say they are sports fans, but that is overstated, i have been places hundreds of times where a big time sports celebrity is right next to them and they had no clue. too funny, but yea i understand.

10:07 PM  
Blogger jhag said...

So rumors rumbling FSU is gonna hire Bud Foster away from Va Tech, that would be nice for ole Jimbo

10:09 PM  
Blogger Peter "Big Snacks" Frankenschmidt said...

so, FSU is stealing defensive players from Bama, and don't even have a DC. Awesome!

10:11 PM  
Blogger Wakeriderof87 said...

That is not a pretty injury for Oregon State, he does not look happy. You gotta feel for the kid.

10:11 PM  
Blogger George W. Jet said...

You know, Rodney Garner could coach TEs and special teams. Just sayin'.

10:12 PM  
Blogger Peter "Big Snacks" Frankenschmidt said...

I'm really happy. I can hate FSU in peace, finally. I've always hated them, but found Bowden to be fun to listen to, and believed him to be a generally good guy. With him gone, and Jimbo at the helm, I can hate with no internal conflict.

10:14 PM  
Blogger michael said...

How do these compare to what UT got for all of their secondary violations?

10:14 PM  
Blogger D. Miller said...

wtc... I never thought Harris was a serious option for AU...

10:15 PM  
Blogger ehyou said...

PF...
Are you in my head? I had that exact sequence of thoughts yesterday.

10:16 PM  
Blogger George W. Jet said...

If you ain't secondarily violatin', you ain't recruitin'.

10:18 PM  
Blogger Peter "Big Snacks" Frankenschmidt said...

I hope not. sounds scary.

10:19 PM  
Blogger wtc said...

I've pooped bigger secondary violations than that.

10:21 PM  
Blogger George W. Jet said...

WTC, if you did, then I consider that a lack of institutional control.

10:22 PM  
Blogger wtc said...

Was institutional or intestinal?

10:23 PM  
Blogger API said...

The OSU HC is a bammer.

Go Gaytah.

pick plays bad, rub plays good.

10:27 PM  
Blogger ehyou said...

Only if marshmallows are scary.

10:28 PM  
Blogger Wakeriderof87 said...

A bammer who gave his old school the middle finger. Thats my kind of bammer.

10:28 PM  
Blogger §teveFC said...

Ummm, Jay, could you post a more depressing thread than the last two? I'm still breathing.

10:29 PM  
Blogger George W. Jet said...

Ducks-Beavers is a tad entertaining.

10:33 PM  
Blogger Wakeriderof87 said...

Did anyone hear the legitimate disbelief in the announcers voice when Erin said that was the second broken helmet of the night.

10:33 PM  
Blogger §teveFC said...

Ducks/Beavers is always entertaining, but when they refered to the wild beaver, it sounded pretty scary.

10:33 PM  
Blogger jhag said...

JGT that hurts to hear about Masoli, he is a stud...
Nice game we got going here

10:34 PM  
Blogger D. Miller said...

Ducks have been down to the beavers all night... but the Ducks just went up...

10:34 PM  
Blogger D. Miller said...

Wild Beaver.... sounds interesting.

10:35 PM  
Blogger George W. Jet said...

I'm married. I wouldn't know anything about that.

10:36 PM  
Blogger Peter "Big Snacks" Frankenschmidt said...

Just got home and flipped the game one when they were talking about it....it's loud there.

10:37 PM  
Blogger wtc said...

Interesting on how things work out.
Neil Caudle was rated as the 7th best QB in 2006, behind, Stafford,Mitch Mustain, Josh Freeman.
Just ahead of Chris Smelley (went to So Carolina and now plays baseball at UAT)Greg McElroy was 11th, Sam bradford was 12th, Christian ponder was 14th.

10:44 PM  
Blogger JD the Biscuithata said...

Did anyone else find Craig James of Legeritt Blount and LeMichael James as , "A heck of a 1-2 punch." a tad inappropiate

10:46 PM  
Blogger jhag said...

Jared Allen is my favorite player


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KkI9axajmT8

10:46 PM  
Blogger JD the Biscuithata said...

LeGerrit Blount, Jerimah Misouli...WTF did Oregon invade the Tony Franklin recruiting board?

10:47 PM  
Blogger D. Miller said...

Coaches visiting Mack on Saturday.

10:48 PM  
Blogger wtc said...

Getting late. Big meeting in the AM.
Later folks.

10:50 PM  
Blogger George W. Jet said...

Go follow recruiting, WTC.

10:51 PM  
Blogger AUfan said...

A Trooper B-ball note- his son plays on the 8th grade team at Auburn. He was also quite the punt-returner(ironic I know)on the 8th grade football team this past football season.

11:03 PM  
Blogger D. Miller said...

So Garner may be leaving UGA... and Orgeron may be leaving UT...
interesting...

11:05 PM  
Blogger API said...

Nite hotties, it's tomorrow already in the ETZ.

11:14 PM  
Blogger D. Miller said...

Garner a possibility as DC at Memphis... Vic Koening name mentioned as possibility as DC at UGA...
Orgeron possibly heading back to USC

11:16 PM  
Blogger D. Miller said...

They sure love to rush the field up there....

11:19 PM  
Blogger ehyou said...

Congrats Oregon. I'm for pretty much anybody over USC.

11:20 PM  
Blogger Wakeriderof87 said...

I'm not a big fan of the SEC's stance on rushing the field. You telling me you wouldn't have wanted to do it if we had beat Bama?

11:22 PM  
Blogger ehyou said...

I don't know wake...we might be a little too crazy. Something bad is likely.

11:33 PM  
Blogger Tar Heel Tiger said...

wow, it's taken me 30 minutes just to get caught up here. I soooo wanted to watch the game last night, but was feeling real yucky. So I went to sleep instead. Woke up at 2 and watched highlights. What a great game!

I'm over Rodney Garner. Memphis sounds like a great place for him.

Thanks for all that recruiting talk. Sounds most interesting.

WARRRRRR EAGLE!!! and TGIF!!!

5:49 AM  
Blogger Tar Heel Tiger said...

FIVE TICKETS available in the HABOTN section for the Outback Bowl. That's section 232, on the Auburn side of the field. Assuming it's sunny, the sun will be at your back, not in your eyes. $80 per ticket includes shipping. If interested, contact me via email link on my blogger profile.

GO TIGERS!!!!!!!!

5:54 AM  
Blogger WarEagleRK said...

"I wanted the block in the back call on Carpenter on the flair pass, on UAT side of the ball, where AU got a facemask penalty."

Me too.

5:56 AM  
Blogger WarEagleRK said...

Wake,

If we rushed the field if we had beaten Alabama I would have been greatly disappointed. I hated when we did it against Florida in 2001. It's just not what fans that are at a top level program do. You rush the field when you never win those kinds of games, when you are never expected to win those games, you don't do it when you see yourself as equal or better than the program you are playing.

5:58 AM  
Blogger WarEagleRK said...

Well maybe not greatly disappointed, but we're better than that.

6:02 AM  
Blogger LuvAU41 said...

Regarding Rollison's suspension:
diggerforAu said...
He will find out this ain't high school and if he ever wants to see the field at Auburn he better get with the program.


Exactly, Digger. I hope he takes heed!

I still think BCW made a big impact on the "PSAs". What exactly is a "secondary violation"?

6:28 AM  
Blogger George W. Jet said...

RK ...

When you don't know who you are, that's the type of thing you do. Of course, when you have more uniform combinations than lottery ticket combinations, you don't know who you are.

6:50 AM  
Blogger LuvAU41 said...

Good morning, Hotties, TGIF, War Eagle and GO GATORS!!!

6:59 AM  
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7:07 AM  
Blogger Peter "Big Snacks" Frankenschmidt said...

early morning flip? or do we wait for everyone to get up and moving?

7:09 AM  
Blogger Peter "Big Snacks" Frankenschmidt said...

I say we do it.

7:09 AM  
Blogger Peter "Big Snacks" Frankenschmidt said...

Whatcha gonna do when Hulkamania runs wild on you?

7:10 AM  
Blogger Peter "Big Snacks" Frankenschmidt said...

Oh Yeaaahhh.

7:10 AM  
Blogger Peter "Big Snacks" Frankenschmidt said...

What a Rush!


This page flip has been brought to you by early 90s wresting on my TV.

7:11 AM  
Blogger Peter "Big Snacks" Frankenschmidt said...

If we rushed the field if we had beaten Alabama I would have been greatly disappointed. I hated when we did it against Florida in 2001. It's just not what fans that are at a top level program do. You rush the field when you never win those kinds of games, when you are never expected to win those games, you don't do it when you see yourself as equal or better than the program you are playing.

Yeah, see. We weren't expected to win that game...and we aren't equal or better than that Bama team. We were worse (thus the loss), but played harder and almost came away with a pretty big upset. You can sit in your seat with your golf clap and old person pride. I'm pretty happy if the students are excited. I was a student once and it was great to get so excited that I would want to jump over the bushes and run around like a fool. Yeah, running around like a fool pretty much makes you one, but it feels really good when you're doing it.

7:18 AM  
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