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7.27.2010

Auburn: Soon to be a second-time champion?

Hey everyone. So Tommy Tuberville, he of Texas Tech fame, has been talking in recent months that Auburn should become the 2004 national champions if Southern Cal is forced to vacate wins from that era.

That happened. The NCAA took action against the Trojans this summer.

So what now? Though the AP said it won't take any retroactive action, the Football Writers Association of America is open to changing its 2004 champion.

The group's director said yesterday that he's going to talk with several former FWAA presidents and see what they think.

"I'm sensing that people, when they look at the situation, that is a distinct possibility that Auburn thing can come into play," FWAA president Steve Richardson said. "I haven't had anyone convince me why we shouldn't do it."

I know what you may be thinking. The FWAA title?

It's at least as good as Parke Davis, Houlgate and the College Football Researchers Association.

276 Comments:

Norm said...: BOOM!; 2:52 PM
Norm said...: I'm ambidextrous with my flipping.; 2:52 PM
Norm said...: Calling soccer "stupid" earlier may have been a bit harsh. I don't get the game. There was no soccer option back in my day in Prattville or Montgomery. Either way, I don't care for the game.; 2:53 PM
Scott Chocolate said...: I guess it goes without saying that you don't do the flipping with either of your feet.; 2:55 PM
Norm said...: Tru dat. Currently, my feet are tapping furiously to "Burn Rubber on Me".

Sadly, I'll have to pause the song to start another con-call.; 2:58 PM
Scott Chocolate said...: I played soccer in Prattville as early as 1979, but I'm pretty sure there was nothing before that.; 3:00 PM
Unknown said...: I saw the comment from Troop on Reed. I had wondered if he would end up playing CB, but it doesn't appear likely. It just seems we have more receiving talent than we know what to do with. Some may get looks at runningback. A couple of injuries and we would really be hurting in the backfield.; 3:05 PM
Unknown said...: Personally, I always thought soccer was invented to give the girls something to do during football season, but I could be wrong.; 3:06 PM
Unknown said...: Geeze; 3:08 PM
chip chip said...: i expect that injuries at running back with precipitate a move of stallworth, reed or maybe ppl to a more hybridized wr/rb role. eric smith would also be an option at tailback with lutz able to handle most h-back duties.; 3:14 PM
chip chip said...: let's just avoid having to cross that bridge...; 3:15 PM
Jet said...: You told me to go up the block ... to get you a strawberry pop. When I got back to the flat ...
you had burned rubber out the back.
I went to the closet and saw no clothes ... all I saw was hangers and poles.; 3:16 PM
Jet said...: Call me skeptical, but I envision PPL's role on this team EXTREMELY LIMITED.; 3:22 PM
WarEagleRK said...: Jet is skeptical.; 3:27 PM
chip chip said...: i don't see him as a major factor either but would love to be wrong.; 3:28 PM
michael said...: Yeah, Jet. You are skeptical.; 3:29 PM
Scott Chocolate said...: Yes, SFC, you are wrong. First time for everything, right?; 3:31 PM
chip chip said...: my dad says robert cooper's calves are too small to be an effective h-back. discuss...; 3:31 PM
Jet said...: I hope he's not. If PPL is a major factor, then I'm afraid the bubonic plague will have destroyed the team.; 3:32 PM
Scott Chocolate said...: Jet, stop making a skeptical of yourself.; 3:32 PM
Jet said...: Even though Gus' calves are too small, he's HAWT!; 3:32 PM
chip chip said...: <a href=" http://espn.go.com/ncf/notebook/_/page/2010Big12MediaDays/2010-big-12-media-days>see paul rhodes comments at bottom</a>

tackling sucked at AU in 2008 & 2009. i saw guys get run around while breaking down in 2008. i saw guys get run through in 2009. get better players and i bet the problem goes away.; 3:38 PM
Norm said...: OMG! SNORT!!!; 3:38 PM
chip chip said...: paul rhodes v chiz

stinky linky; 3:39 PM
Anonymous said...: Scott C ..We played soccer during PE in 1968 at the Prattville Intermediate School. Although Coach Jenson tried to enforce the rules, I wouldn't call it organized.; 3:42 PM
WarEagleRK said...: It's an honor to be your coach!!; 3:44 PM
Norm said...: Living in Prattville from '68 to '76, I have no recollection of soccer being available in organized form at the Y. I went to school in Montgomery so I don't know what the Prattville schools did. I'm sure in Montgomery, we laughed at and about kids who played soccer. That's the way I choose to remember it at least.; 3:46 PM
digger4au said...: Fanning may start and do OK but Eric Smith will come thundering out of the herd and be "the" back. Dyer may help out later in the year as he gets experience.; 3:54 PM
Norm said...: Time to take it to the house. If the storms look like they'll hold off, F4* and I may hit the pool and I'll knock back a few Co-Colas. Or something liquid. Probably not really Co-Colas, that'd keep an old fart such as myself up too late at night.; 3:56 PM
Jet said...: I played on the Montgomery YMCA city championship team in 1978 when I was an 8th grader. It was my one trophy from youth sports -- that was when you got trophies for championships, not just showing up.

We had a co-ed league, but we didn't have a co-ed team.

We beat the snot out of everybody, except the only other all-male team. We beat them (3-2?) in the regular season, then scored late to tie in the title game, 1-1.
We beat the punks 3-2 in penalty kicks.

The goals in the league were the volleyball net stanchions made of an old tire, cement and a metal pole. A string was tied across the top of the two poles, and it was the official's job to determine if the ball went under or above the string.; 3:56 PM
Tar Heel Tiger said...: wow, I had no idea we were having a day of steady rain. Not thundery, not lightningy, not windy, just steady rainy. It's a November Rain, or maybe a Kentucky Rain; I couldn't tell for sure, so I played both. And even though it wasn't a Louisiana Rain, I played that,, too. Then CCR asked if I'd ever seen it. DUH! Then they wanted to know who was going to stop it. I dunno, but EC certainly kept encouraging it, which I'm sure made the Temptations happy since no one will see their teardrops. It's not Just Like a Strange Rain, but when it stops, I'll go Searching for a Rainbow.; 3:58 PM
WarEagleRK said...: I think we may have had a soccer team at my high school a couple of the years I was there.

That was the early 90's, so it took awhile for the craze to hit rural TN.

In fact when I graduated in 1994, half of the girls at my HS still had the really bad 80's metal big hair look.; 3:59 PM
Scott Chocolate said...: Prattville had YMCA soccer in '79 and '80. We had a Swedish guy named Lars for a coach who, if we pissed him off, would make us "run a leap". Interestingly, he also dipped Skoal under his upper lip (if he had been a Dane, he would have dipped Copenhagen). Anyway, after those two years, there was no more organized soccer in Prattville that I'm aware of until about '83 when the city league started.; 4:06 PM
Anonymous said...: According to Rhoads, the methodology under Chizik involved flying full speed at ball carriers more than hitting with form and balance.

"We control ourselves before we're in a hitting situation," Rhoads said. "So if a ball carrier makes a move, we're not tackling air like a cartoon character."

Translation: Your blueprint sucked here, Gene. Mine works better. I'll say "Hi" to Tubs for you October 2.; 4:09 PM
Baldy said...: THT, maybe you'll luck up and see a double rainbow. (I'm assuming one of you has posted the "double rainbow guy" from Youtube fame here before?) He was on Jimmy Kimmel not long ago. An odd dude.; 4:10 PM
digger4au said...: THT the Shug Jordan 1952 team. This was my Freshman year at Auburn and with the previous year at 5-5 we were excited about the season. As the year passed we found that it wasn't to be (our dreams of breaking 500) which was all we hoped for. But it sure got better the next year and we were out of our minds. There was no hot seat for Shug not even any out spoken rallys or anything like that. We just felt it was going to get better and it did.; 4:12 PM
Tar Heel Tiger said...: I miss Shug.; 4:15 PM
Tar Heel Tiger said...: I should have gone to summer school at AU. I didn't know the library was so much fun in the summer.; 4:22 PM
WarEagleRK said...: I don't understand the concept of the flash mob.

"Hey show up at the library for no apparent reason, everyone is doing it."; 4:27 PM
Anonymous said...: Another one? We had one for Spring finals, but I didn't think they'd start doing it so often.

Honestly, I'm surprised they chose to try it again after the first time...

... Not my fault, I was studying.; 4:34 PM
Anonymous said...: Has anyone else noticed the growing wave of hype surrounding our beloved football team from the past couple of weeks? Third place to win the SEC by the media, with Phil Steele and now Lee Corso calling an undefeated trip up to the Iron Bowl.

Say what?; 4:35 PM
WarEagleRK said...: I'm all for Corso saying that. He was the only one who picked us in the pre-season of 2004 to win the SEC.; 4:42 PM
Jet said...: In a cnnsi.com column by Andy Staples regarding the new Pac-10 logo that was unveiled, outgoing Washington president/incoming NCAA boss Mark Emmert trumpeted his credentials on the importance of a good brand as such:

"I was intimately involved in the selection of the tiger head that is currently the LSU logo," said Emmert.

Uh, no you weren't. Liar, liar, pants on fire. Or exaggerator, exaggerator, get eaten by an alligator.

Emmert was president at LSU from 1999 until 2004. LSU has been playing with the Tiger head logo on the helmet since 1977, according to the Helmet Project web site, which is an exhaustive history of the helmets teams have worn through the years.

Careful, President Emmert, next thing you know, you'll claim to have invented the Internet.; 4:44 PM
chip chip said...: again, i was not impressed with AU's d in 2002 during chiz's first year. drastic improvement was made the following two years. i was not impressed with rhodes' d in 2008 even though they basically kept AU in games while the o went three and out. rhodes better be happy with the folks chiz got to come to ames. i bet it is easier to recruit to troy.

one of my buds went to grad school in ames. he described it as a frozen wasteland during the winter and devoid of any real entertainment.; 4:47 PM
Unknown said...: Undefeated into the Iron Bowl is remotely possible, but a large number of factors (basically everything including some luck) would have break or way. I think 9-2 into the Iron Bowl is far more likely, don't ask me which 2.; 4:50 PM
chip chip said...: speaking of helmets, who is for who is agin' the 15% larger AU logo on the helmets they wore at a-day?

pro: 15% bigger shows up better on tv. didn't mess with anything else.

con: the originals are better.; 4:50 PM
michael said...: You know, I can see Rhoads' point. With Auburn/Texas style athletes at the major tackling positions, you can afford a more aggressive approach to tackling. If you don't, your 195 pound linebackers would get run over anyway. Simple momentum equations, mass times velocity and the sort.

That probably wasn't a good style with the Iowa St athletes. It'd be like John Calipari coaching Gonzaga. The motion offense wouldn't look so good there.; 4:53 PM
Anonymous said...: It's not that I don't think those are possible, but I hate having the expectation officially out in the open. In my (limited) experience with AU football, once the spotlight hits something goes wrong.

Small example: The first time Auburn was ranked in the Top 25 last year was right before they flopped at Arkansas.; 4:53 PM
Scott Chocolate said...: SOCCER

Those who care probably already know, but the MLS All-Stars play Manchester United tomorrow night.

Also, Man U lost to the Kansas City Wizards on Sunday in front of 52,000 plus in Arrowhead Stadium.; 5:18 PM
Tar Heel Tiger said...: I could see the original logo just fine.; 6:02 PM
Tar Heel Tiger said...: that PAC 10 logo does absolutely zero for me.; 6:07 PM
chip chip said...: futbol almost killed the thread. back to american football.; 6:11 PM
Tar Heel Tiger said...: or hoops,

Frankie Sullivan had surgery, out indefinitely

so says AU Undercover; 6:38 PM
ehyou said...: The Nats are so poor we spotted them 3. The Braves are nice AND good. But now we crush them.; 6:51 PM
Unknown said...: You wouldn't say that if Strasburg had made the start as scheduled.; 7:07 PM
Unknown said...: Going to the Nats-Braves games tomorrow evening.

Only airlines and professional sports can Jack a ticket price up 55% with fees.; 7:11 PM
WarEagleRK said...: NoVA,

Concert tickets are the same.; 7:24 PM
WarEagleRK said...: The Braves of the past week are sadly looking similar to the team that lost 9 in a row earlier in the year.

Last week they should have went 7-0, but finished 4-3.

0-2 with runners in scoring position so far today.

At least McClouth was sent back to the minors.

Also, former Auburn Tiger David Ross signed a 2 year extension with the Braves.; 7:25 PM
Unknown said...: Good, the Nats need to break their losing streak.; 7:30 PM
Jay G. Tate said...: New thread UPZ.; 7:38 PM
michael said...: OLD THREAD DOWN; 3:14 PM
Tar Heel Tiger said...: CLEAR!

No, no, no! Put the paddles on the thread next time, not on Michael.; 9:03 AM
michael said...: I found the experience stimulating.; 10:30 PM
Tar Heel Tiger said...: Michael likes to be paddled.

And the thread has a pulse, a very, very, very, very weak pulse. It sha'n't expire on my watch.; 8:09 AM
Tar Heel Tiger said...: here on the 2nd page, Norm's 1st page wisdom still rings true:

Norm said...
Soccer is stupid.

2:52 PM; 6:48 PM
michael said...: I don't mind soccer nearly as much as people talking about soccer.; 10:47 AM
Tar Heel Tiger said...: This comment has been removed by the author.; 9:39 AM
michael said...: I'll never tell what you just said to anyone except for everyone we know on the internet.; 12:13 PM
Tar Heel Tiger said...: I hate soccer.; 9:10 AM
Tar Heel Tiger said...: MrsTHT packed about 8 triscuits more than I needed for my laughing cow cheese. Now I'm not complaining, 'cause I'd hate for her to stop packing my 12 course lunch for me, but, obviously, she should have given me two laughing cows. That would have been hilarious.; 11:08 AM
michael said...: Triscuits are so dry, they are hard to eat by themselves. I eat them with cottage cheese.

Oh, and triscuits have surprising strength when you place two on top of each other, crossing the plies. I bet the inventor of composites got the idea from stacking triscuits.; 12:43 PM
THT said...: and the inventor of plywood got the idea while eating Keebler fudge sticks; 7:27 PM
michael said...: the inventor of marshmallows got the idea by eating marshmallows.; 3:28 PM
Tar Heel Tiger said...: Probably looking to cure his sore throat.; 6:53 PM
michael said...: No, he was actually just hungry for marshmallows. After eating them, he said to himself, "Say, I should invent these!"; 5:19 PM
Tar Heel Tiger said...: we have a marshmallow bush in our back yard. No man can take credit for that. I'd like some man to take credit for killing all the deer that eat our marshmallows. Of course, he should kill the deer and then take credit.; 6:48 AM