Franklin out
Sorry, guys. I was out of computer range there for a bit.
Franklin is out. This went down early this afternoon. Tuberville will meet with players around 3:30, ie now, to tell them what's going on.
I'll be updating constantly as I learn things.
We'll have a campfire in a bit.
Franklin is out. This went down early this afternoon. Tuberville will meet with players around 3:30, ie now, to tell them what's going on.
I'll be updating constantly as I learn things.
We'll have a campfire in a bit.
posted by Jay G. Tate at
3:30 PM
55 Comments:
WOW!!!!
Just when you thought it was Bad!!!!
Jay,
Good thing? or Bad thing? What's your take?
Al Borges....to the Batphone!!
I saw a comment on another site that said. "I'm sure Rush Propst would take the job" haha
Wow this is like a soap opera, I'm definitely ready to see what Tubs plan is. He obviously came up with some idea, or he wouldn't have made such a drastic change after he just announced his confidence in him.
looks like bobby put his foot down.
Hey, on a lighter note, Franchione is available.
phuckin bad thing
Sooooo, does this mean I should turn in my helmet?
wow...
borges makes sense...75% of players know his offense
either way..i think its safe to say Chris Todd is done.
Lets do this Kdoi
Kodi*
cbarkley. It is Bush's fault right?
this is BS. A pr nightmare. Tubs should be fired over this. Once again he blames the coordinators instead of himself and his other BBQ buddies.
had to be lowder
what happens with chris todd?
Tommy Pinocchio and crew need to go. It's time. I predict a minimum of 4 recruits will go elsewhere.
IMO, there's waaaay more to this than meets the eye. Tubs isnt the type to let someone go mid-season (see: Nallsminger, Gibbs). This reeks of Lowder and co. calling this axin'.
Jay Jacobs...unclean
CT will not be the starter its Kodi or Bust!!!!
Yeah, let's just blame it on Bush.
Recruits will be the next people CTT will call and give them his plan on staying with the spread...
He will not change on this and i totally agree with him on this.
I give them two weeks and there will be a hire to be the next OC.
Bank on it!!!
This makes no sense. Why not wait until after the season?
I heard from a friend Patrick Nix is rumored to be the next one. Probably completely false. Isn't Miami's offense ranked below ours, anyway?
And don't even start on Borges. We might jump from 107 to 101 in total offense. How has everyone forgotten how bad we were? And the guy left the cupboard bare, he didn't recruit well enough.
All around, I think this stinks.
No, this reeks of the same crap we've seen from Thomas Hawley Tuberville for the past 10 years.
His loyalty to underperforming coaches (who, by the way, were certainly NOT fired today...nor in '07...nor in '03...nor '02...nor '00) will be his undoing, and thankfully so.
There's a reason Franklin was out there yesterday teaching our WR's the correct way to run routes...and it isn't because Coach Knox was absent.
This is unreal and, for me, the straw that broke the camel's back. Pay his buyout, don't pay his buyout, it doesn't matter. Get rid of the guy and his core group of inept coaches.
Tubs and Franklin had words this afternoon which lead to Franklin being fired. Franklin felt like he was not being allowed to run his offense.
I just hope there is no pay-off to keep CTF quiet. He doesn't seem to be one to keep quiet. Sat night-big changes coming. Sun-we are dedicated to this offense. Tues-CTF more hands on back to the "old Tony Franklin." Wed- CTF fired. You can't make this stuff up.
So what is this new hire doing now aunmobile?
If there is a good coach availble mid-season then why is he availble mid-season?
So, in all seriousness, where do we go from here? Who calls plays this weekend? Do we stick with any of the spread packages? Or do we just run the two Ace running plays we have and hope arky doesnt catch on?
Man, this is bad. It was bad before but at least we knew they were attempting to head in SOME SORT of a direction. This is going to set us back YEARS.
available...damn blackberry
Please please please fire ctt
Fire
Ctt
Fire ctt
I hate him
This was all planned. Ctt wants to collect 6 million by getting fired
This is all too much. Bama, Obama, stocks, and now this #%@#.
No anon. Coach Tubs is doing what he always does - passing the buck.
Lane Kiffin?
I don't know where all this fire tuberville is coming from... there was obviously a falling out, franklin was probably not innocent in all this. Let's be honest the spread sucks anyway, by next year this won't matter one bit.
and as far as recruits go... it's october, feburary is a long way away.
Ron - Tubs hired the guy. He should have known what he was getting into. His staff was obviously not on board. Why make such a drastic change in the offense without understanding the consequences. A knee jerk reaction to being killed on the recruiting field.
Tubs has to take responsibility which he never really does. He just replaces coordinators like a CEO replaces executives. Plus this is a PR nightmare and AU is seldom put in a good light anyway.
"It is very difficult to make someone understand something when their paycheck depends on them not understanding it"
If I was getting $6 million bucks for getting fired, I would show up stark buck naked at work every day until they gave me that sweet, sweet $6M severance check.
Even on cold days.
Plus, I bet that if people accepted my nudity, I could STILL run the program farther into the ground, and probably much faster.
But not much.
Because Tubs is good.
Firing a big name system guy mid-season. In his first year. After you said ONE DAY BEFORE that you had TOTAL CONFIDENCE AND SUPPORT for him.
Wow.
Well, we didn't see THAT one coming!
This is almost "have a spa party on taxpayer money on Bailout Signing Day" good.
Almost, but not quite.
The only folks that can do the "Is it incompetence or corruption" thing better than bankers, car salesmen, cigarette manufacturers and oil execs are football coaches.
What a hoot. A bad hoot.
Thanks
Big Oil
maybe we should give Knox a chance to run the offense.
I sure hope AU has kept it's nose clean for the last year. Otherwise, Franklin is going to write a book and we really will be set back for years when the NCAA puts us on probation. Things like this never end pretty.
Crudup ... loved it.
You don't think that tuberville understands the consequences? This isn't his first rodeo.
wasnt tubbs call
lowder all the way
Tubs care about Tubs.
Wow. This is a big mistake. So now, auburn is right where it started. a bad offense, no solution, and the only thing to come out of this is a loss to vanderbilt.
If Auburn doesn't grab another guy that runs some version of the spread, I'll lose much respect for tuberville.
maybe they will pass around a hat that all of the asst. coaches can vote on the next OC, that way they might buy into his gameplan and coach someone.
My hunch is that someone is enroute as we speak.
What's this about a racial divide on the team?
borges
"What's this about a racial divide on the team?
If you have a white player and a black player as your top two quarterbacks, you can always bank on the "racial strife" rumors when things go bad for a team.
I see the usual spate of "blame it on Lowder" comments...
I agree with the poster who said Tubs hiring Franklin was a knee-jerk reaction to getting Sabanized in the recruiting battles.
If only Tubs could hire OC's as well as he has DC's....
Let's look at the OC's under Tubs tenure:
1. Jimbo Fisher. Jimbo cut his teeth at AU and went on to get even better at LSU IMO. Not a bad recruiter. Had some lean years with Tiny Tot's recruits.
2. Petrino. Petrino had a good year in 02 and obviously went on to offensive craziness at Louisville.
3. Hugh Nall/ Ensminger. Tubs made a big mistake giving his BBQ Buddy the OC job. Nall obviously not cut out for it and promptly goes back to OL coach where he belongs.
4. Borges. Gorgeous Borges comes in and energizes the offense, has creative, gutsy playcalling. Unfortunately said playcalling never updates itself and SEC DC's finally catch up to him. Not much of a recruiter either. I would credit Borges with turning Jason Campbell into an all-SEC QB.
5. Franklin. Well he just sucked. And he never shaved apparently. I appreciated the honest, non-coachspeak, but seriously, the playcalling and coaching were atrocious.
Good luck finding an OC mid-year! I think Tubs & Co. may be on the way out the door depending on how many games we lose... Paul Rhodes for HC if that happens! (Or Will Muschamp)
I agree Phred - Tub's doesn't make a decision like this without a plan B already in the works.
Maybe not in place by this weekend but certainly by the off week.
I salute Coach for making the tough decision. It just wasn't working out - why drag on the inevitable.
This is just my 2 cents worth. Tubs said he is committed to the spread, so let's say he is being truthful here. He fires the one guy who knows the spread - who is going to call the plays - Nall?, Ensminger?, Knox? These guys can't even coach it, how are they going to call the plays? If they do not continue to run the spread then we lose recruits. And finally the big question - Tubs brings in another spread guy, whether it be next week or next year, who can guarantee the same thing will not happen? You still have that core group of coaches, TT's BBQ buddies, who did not buy into Franklin's system so will they buy into the next OC's system?
jimbo fisher was never under tubs he started with mazzone
I want to make a weak comparison.....
I'm an engineer who works in an industry that offers P.E. registrations. I've worked with many VERY smart PE's and a few that were dumber than a sack of rocks. These guys were super book smart but did not have the common sense to implement. I see Franklin this way in that he knows the nuts and bolts on how a spread offense should work, but when it came to game planning and play calling - he didn't have a clue. "Flying by the seat of your pants" at Troy may work there - but not up here in Big Boy football....
since Tubby married the spread, does this count as an annulment or a divorce?
It really seemed that this season Franklin wasn't allowed to run his offense like he was in the bowl game. In the bowl game, the offense was uptempo, threw the ball downfield, had exciting play calling, and put up plenty of yards. this season, the offense was sluggish, called the same run play over and over again, and would only pass in 3rd and long situations. it was the same exact play calling, just out of different formations. Franklin wasn't allowed to run his offense, and it's a shame that he got booted because of that.
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