Looking at AU/Vanderbilt
Here it is. Feel free to disagree. I'll try to defend my positions unless Chris Todd is involved ...
POSITION BY POSITION:
QUARTERBACK
Advantage: Vanderbilt
Auburn is in complete upheaval here. I believe Chris Todd is the better option right now, but he's less productive overall than Vanderbilt's Chris Nickson.
RUNNING BACKS
Advantage: Auburn
Ben Tate's numbers haven't been remarkable this season. How much of that is due to blocking problems? When he gets a hole, he's tough to stop. With Brad Lester and now Mario Fannin in the fray, the Tigers have a lot of depth.
RECEIVERS
Advantage: Auburn
I can't believe I'm doing this. Auburn? Receivers? Look at it this way: Tommy Trott, Robert Dunn and Rod Smith are at least league average. Vanderbilt's only good receiver, George Smith, will make his season debut today.
OFFENSIVE LINE
Advantage: Vanderbilt
Auburn's line has undermined so many drives with holding penalties this season. Lee Ziemba is in a funk. Jason Bosley's body isn't cooperating with him. Vanderbilt has accomplished plenty so far this season with their front line.
DEFENSIVE LINE
Advantage: Auburn
One thing to remember from last week: Tennessee really wanted to run. And it really couldn't. This is why. Sen'Derrick Marks and Tez Doolittle have become almost impossible for opponents to move. They block running lanes with aplomb.
LINEBACKERS
Advantage: Auburn
I really like watching Vanderbilt's MLB, Patrick Benoist, play the game. He's a natural and incredibly underrated. With that said, Auburn has five guys who are SEC starters right now. It's a valuable collection.
DEFENSIVE BACKS
Advantage: Auburn
This one is close. Vanderbilt has three guys with at least two picks apiece, which is remarkable. I was inclined to go with that. Then I reviewed the team's schedule, compared it with Auburn's and decided the Tigers have been just as good (if not opportunistic) against much better teams.
SPECIAL TEAMS
Advantage: Vanderbilt
Wes Byrum is struggling, the punt return team has lost its swagger. Vanderbilt has been using special teams to its advantage this season in a big way. Plus, kicker Bryant Hahnfeldt is a perfect 7-for-7. Not too shabby.
COACHING
Advantage: Auburn
Look, I like Bobby Johnson. The Commodores get a little bit better every single season. They have guys in the NFL. They're more than competitive now. Still, Tommy Tuberville has been doing this at a high level for much longer.
PLAYERS TO WATCH:
KEYS TO THE GAME:
POSITION BY POSITION:
QUARTERBACK
Advantage: Vanderbilt
Auburn is in complete upheaval here. I believe Chris Todd is the better option right now, but he's less productive overall than Vanderbilt's Chris Nickson.
RUNNING BACKS
Advantage: Auburn
Ben Tate's numbers haven't been remarkable this season. How much of that is due to blocking problems? When he gets a hole, he's tough to stop. With Brad Lester and now Mario Fannin in the fray, the Tigers have a lot of depth.
RECEIVERS
Advantage: Auburn
I can't believe I'm doing this. Auburn? Receivers? Look at it this way: Tommy Trott, Robert Dunn and Rod Smith are at least league average. Vanderbilt's only good receiver, George Smith, will make his season debut today.
OFFENSIVE LINE
Advantage: Vanderbilt
Auburn's line has undermined so many drives with holding penalties this season. Lee Ziemba is in a funk. Jason Bosley's body isn't cooperating with him. Vanderbilt has accomplished plenty so far this season with their front line.
DEFENSIVE LINE
Advantage: Auburn
One thing to remember from last week: Tennessee really wanted to run. And it really couldn't. This is why. Sen'Derrick Marks and Tez Doolittle have become almost impossible for opponents to move. They block running lanes with aplomb.
LINEBACKERS
Advantage: Auburn
I really like watching Vanderbilt's MLB, Patrick Benoist, play the game. He's a natural and incredibly underrated. With that said, Auburn has five guys who are SEC starters right now. It's a valuable collection.
DEFENSIVE BACKS
Advantage: Auburn
This one is close. Vanderbilt has three guys with at least two picks apiece, which is remarkable. I was inclined to go with that. Then I reviewed the team's schedule, compared it with Auburn's and decided the Tigers have been just as good (if not opportunistic) against much better teams.
SPECIAL TEAMS
Advantage: Vanderbilt
Wes Byrum is struggling, the punt return team has lost its swagger. Vanderbilt has been using special teams to its advantage this season in a big way. Plus, kicker Bryant Hahnfeldt is a perfect 7-for-7. Not too shabby.
COACHING
Advantage: Auburn
Look, I like Bobby Johnson. The Commodores get a little bit better every single season. They have guys in the NFL. They're more than competitive now. Still, Tommy Tuberville has been doing this at a high level for much longer.
PLAYERS TO WATCH:
- Vanderbilt QB Chris Nickson (No. 3)
6-1, 210, Sr.
Last game: 6-for-7 for 40 yards; 7 carries for 2 yards (vs. Ole Miss)
Scouting report: Nickson, a Brundidge native, suffered a sprained throwing shoulder in the Commodores' win against Ole Miss two weeks ago. When he's healthy, Nickson is a shifty runner who has learned to make thoughtful decisions with his throws. A career lived in the spotlight has given Nickson plenty of trial-and-error learning. He's sharp. Running is his forte -- he's averaging 4.8 yards per carry -- and he has enough elusiveness to avoid almost any tackler.
- Auburn WR Mario Fannin (No. 27)
5-11, 225, Soph.
Last week: 3 catches for 29 yards; 4 rushes for 18 yards (vs. Tenn.)
Scouting report: Fannin is one of the Tigers' most exciting players. He spent the first month of the season in relative anonymity because of a shoulder injury suffered during spring ball. Coaches changed their tune last week, allowing Fannin to take snaps from center and catch balls out of the backfield. He's a dynamic player who can contribute in a variety of ways. He's intuitive. Fannin was fumble-prone as a freshman in 2007, though he hasn't had those problems in 2008. He seems more casual with his running this season in the sense that he sprints only after identifying a clear running lane. It's an interesting change from his freshman pace. - Auburn DE Michael Goggans (No. 49)
6-3, 259, Soph.
Last week: 3 tackles and 1 quarterback hurry (vs. Tenn.)
Scouting report: Goggans came to Auburn as a tight end, but he's become a stalwart on the defensive line. He'll be tested today because Vanderbilt loves running the ball outside the tackles, which is where Goggans roams. He smaller and slower than many SEC strong-side ends. Goggans makes things happen by playing with remarkable effort; he never gives up on plays. He sometimes seems tentative as if he's too concerned with falling victim to a misdirection play or reverse.
KEYS TO THE GAME:
- Auburn offense
As you would expect, Vanderbilt plays intelligent football. That's not just stereotypical blather. Coach Bobby Johnson has installed a complicated defense that is blitz-heavy. It's also a shapeshifter. There are few patterns to memorize. They don't exist. The Commodores run more blitz variations than any other SEC team. That means Auburn's offensive line must pay close attention to details, which has not been its strong suit so far this season. The most critical development for the Tigers is establishing some consistency at quarterback and finding ways to make the run game move forward. There was too much side-stepping in games against LSU and Tennessee. Vanderbilt's secondary has intercepted 10 passes this season, so Chris Todd and Kodi Burns must be keen in identifying disguised coverages. - Auburn defense
It's amazing that Vanderbilt has scored as much as it has this season. It ranks 12th among SEC teams in offensive yards. So how is this team 4-0? Turnovers. The defense creates turnovers and the offense executes in the red zone. Vanderbilt gives the ball to either quarterback Chris Nickson or tailback Jared Hawkins and lets them run. That means Auburn's defense will deploy its defensive backs closer to the line of scrimmage to provide run support. Nickson has a strong arm. Mechanics are a problem for him, though, which compromises his accuracy on deep throws. Blitzes don't work particularly well against Vanderbilt because Nickson can escape. He's running most of the time, too.
39 Comments:
i can't really disagree with anything on the breakdown. i never thought in my lifetime that Vandy's offensive line would be viewed better than ours, but after 5 games i agree. i'm hanging on R.Pugh's comments they're getting that 'nasty' streak back.
oh, from what you've heard, can you get a feel for a percentage of shotgun/under center this weekend? 70/30, 60/40?
Vandy's receivers must be "turrible"!
Pretty good 'cept Mario didn't catch any balls out of the backfield last week. Maybe this week is his turn.
I would have to say that this is the first one where I agree with all of your points. Can't argue about any of them.
Mr Anon, they threw to him though.
It is amazing to me the complete lack of talent at the QB position in the SEC (other than Tebow and Stafford). The fact that there has even been a question as to which team has a better QB is crazy.
At the same time, almost every school in the Big XII has a good if not great QB. Just strange.
I think you will see some of these younger guys develop into pretty good quarterbacks. The SNead kid, The Trotter kid, Star JAckson, and the Lee kid at LSU.
Jay any idea on what is going on with Ziemba? I think one problem with the o-line is the lack of true tackles on the roster. Bosley and Pugh are true inside guys And I guess McCain is not being considered as a true option considering Ziemba's struggles and the other tackle spot being shared being two centers. I am surprised to see Goggans weight being that low. I had not paid attention to his weight in the program. He seems bigger than that in person to me.
Jay G.,
We are giving you your own theme song on the Gridiron Breakdown this week.
Any suggestions from you and the Hotties are welcome.
Jay,
I totally agree with what you have said. Auburn must come out and establish the run then pass when it wants not when they need to. O line needs to eliminate penalites adn negative plays then score in the red-zone.
Auburn- 24 Vandy- 10
Mr Sensible
I suggest
"Time out of Mind" by Steely Dan
JG....I gotta let go of the mancrush...nice job. You know football and notice fundamentals much to well to be in the press. Isn't modern day sports reporting supposed to be rife with inuendo ,rumor and emotional quips instead of accurately discussing fundamentals?
I agree with Barkley..if Vandy's receivers are weaker than ours....
I predict another ugly win and typical gnashing of teeth and blame to follow. Someone's gotta be blamed....right? The Soccer Moms demand it. AU will have to run and limit TOs. We will have to stuff their run and guard against the big pass play. I hope Neiko has done a lot of film study. The kid looks good, but is susceptable to bite the wrong way. He should prolly be instructed to keep everything in front of him when in there.
Jim, Snead at Ole Miss is a very good one. Would love to have him "here at Auburn."
I wish I knew more about Trotter.
They weren't doing much with him during two-a-days and he's so lost in the shuffle now that I can't really assess his progress.
He'll be in a tough spot, though, if Raymond Cotton is really this good.
I forgot about Snead. He has thrown 8 picks this year including 4 against Vandy though.
As for Mario not catching passes last week ... that wasn't his fault.
The coaches used him in new ways relative to this season.
Jay G,
You know as well as I do now that while what a HS player does in HS may indicate he has potential to be good, it is not a sure thing. That is why I pay so little attention to what the recruiting services say. IMHO they are corrupt and self-serving. Look at Burns, he may yet develop into a complete player, but he is as skittish as a 2 year old thoroughbred in the gate. He arrived at Auburn heralded not as a runner, but a big armed passer. Heck, he has said as much. The truth is, no one knows what we have.
I think the scenerio that played out in the spring was the worst possible one for Auburn. Todd was hurt much much worse that Auburn was told. The type of shoulder separation is almost impossible to come back from without losing significant arm strength. Burns goes bonkers in the game. One of the talking heads on the Auburn Sports Radio stated that "what makes Burns so dangerous is his ability to run when the play breaks down."
I offer this, with Burns EVERY passing play breaks down all the time because he goes through one progression after he screws up the fake or the rollout, or whatever, then he is off to the races.
Good Golly Miss Molly....Vandy caught 4 INTs off of Snead??? How many does that translate into for Todd/Kodi??
You continue to amaze me jay. Thanks for everything.
Moon looks Like he should be shoveling asphalt.
Denny, that's what Franklin said and I believe him. That's what I see on the field.
Tuberville said Burns just gets rattled by the drama of a full stadium ... not necessarily what's happening in the game.
Burns will not overcome stage fright by standing on the sidelines.
I'm headed up to Nashvegas.
I'll check back this evening. No "Ask A Beat Writer" session tonight because we just had The Campfire and The Gals are with me.
Peace.
I think Burns looks like a sophomore who still has not qbed a whole game. Reminds me of Jason Campbell at the same point in his Auburn career. Not so for Jason now!!! I think both qbs are scared because they don't have confidence in the offensive line. I don't understand what has changed with Ziemba other than he is being asked to block differently. Is that change exposing a weakness? I would think Hugh Nall would have made other changes by now. Why not? He started three freshman who had never played in the LSU game last year.
Kodi was 4 of 6 on his first drive with two dropped balls. He should've been perfect and had the ball near the 10 with first down, but Billings doesnt make that catch.
I'm just tired of hearing "he only goes through one progression and then runs it." That's BS. He threw the ball 6 times on one drive.
Agreed Hip. Even on the scramble play, he scrambled until he found someone open. He didn't take off. He actually stayed behind the line and looked for someone to throw the ball too. Looked more Donovan McNabb-ish to me. If Kodi is going to get any better, they're going to have to let him play and get over his "stage fright."
Agreed Hip. Even on the scramble play, he scrambled until he found someone open. He didn't take off. He actually stayed behind the line and looked for someone to throw the ball too. Looked more Donovan McNabb-ish to me. If Kodi is going to get any better, they're going to have to let him play and get over his "stage fright."
My Thoughts on the Game.
Hip, thanks for your post. You're 100% right. How much of this so called assessment of Burns is coming from his short stint in the So Miss game? Seriously?
In the La Monroe game he was more productive, threw bigger passes, and looked every bit in command as Todd did. We can go back into the archives where even Jay said Slaughter and a couple others ruined what would have been am impressive outing for Burns.
Burns hasn't had a chance this year period. End of story. He needs it for ANYBODY to understand what he can do. Todd's royaly houses in Tony's little castle and it's not exactly making anybody happy.
Let me say this. Don't expect Auburn to suddenly "wake up" just because the head coach has some appetizing things to say after another lackluster performance. The coordinator has to do the total job at some point and come to the realizations the rest of the world can see it.
Jay,
I'm a little confused:
1. At what point did Kodi look "rattled" last week?
2. If you think he does look rattled, how can he be expected to play through that if he can't go more than 15 plays in a game?
It's not like Burns is a freshman. Shouldn't he be making major progress by now?
Also, it's not me saying he runs plays incorrectly. It's his O.C. saying that.
Kodi looks over geeked from the time he sprints in. We need the ghost of Paul Brown to haunt CTF.
Personally, I would prefer it if Coaches began to dress like Coach Paul Brown to stalk the sidelines. You just gotta Love Howard down at Florida Atlantic. He was such the snazzy dresser at U of L, with the killer moustache and those cool sideburns. Course he like to have drink now and again, but who doesn't.
Denny,
What's this I hear about Nervous and Howard having a drinking contest over who was the bigger UL icon?
This place gets a little more gay every day.
says anonymous at 6:45 A.M.
Aplomb? I guess it IS the Vandy game.
It is an APT description.
Jay G ... I'm gueesing that the Twitter will be smokin' it up today?
How do you make major progress when you dont get in the game??
I guess by "gay", he (no woman would say that) means "civil and reasonable"?
As for Burns, he gets 1,000 reps per day in practice. Or maybe 100. Or maybe 50. When you add 'em all up and I see the same guy on the field today that I saw a year ago ... I consider that "not making major progress."
If you want to rip "Jay G" for saying that, you have to rip "Auburn's coaches" for that idea because they're the ones "saying that in interviews."
"Not that there is anything wrong with that."
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