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5.28.2009

Lowder out at Colonial

Hey everyone. Thought I'd give a cursory mention about Bobby Lowder retiring from his position at Colonial BancGroup.

You old timers will remember the days when it seemed like 90% of the Auburn faithful hated the guy. I never understood that. I heard all these stories about how dangerous he was and, honestly, I'd assess him as a very bright nerd.

I've only spoken with him a few times, though, so maybe he tricked me.

Sure, he meddled in some stuff. So what? The university (and the athletic department) needed some direction and he provided it. Auburn seems like a pretty healthy institution to me.

321 Comments:

j-z said...: Scott,

I didn't see them there. Wish I had known they were coming. There was a former Auburn DB there that almost got knocked on his a$$ by the Trooper bump.; 11:10 AM
Scott M. Brannan said...: we got absolutely hammered by LSU, USC (both NC's), GT and UGA in 03. not so close there. the victories over #7 Arkansas & #7 Tennessee were nice, though.; 11:11 AM
Jet said...: This comment has been removed by the author.; 11:11 AM
Monica said...: It's fun watching the newer hotties engage Steve. :-)

You old hotties are just masochists.

Steve - Luv ya, mean it!; 11:11 AM
Jet said...: J-Z ...

If it's the one I think it was ... that wouldn't be surprising.; 11:11 AM
j-z said...: Steve,

Here's the easiest way to look at it. Were we competitive the last 2 years in the SEC?; 11:12 AM
j-z said...: Roomies with Kevin Green, Jet?; 11:13 AM
Scott Chocolate said...: Yeah, they were there. I think I can guess the DB. Knowing the lack of alcohol at those events, I'm impressed at the multiple chest-bumpings.; 11:13 AM
Eddie McCoy said...: Finally, a break in the action.

Monica- You are right, I should know better, but I do enjoy pain as you well know :)!!; 11:21 AM
Unknown said...: Yes, we were competitive in 2007. Competitive we weren't in 2008. Pathetic was closer to the truth. The reason why and whether the head coach would correct it is what we were discussing.; 11:21 AM
Unknown said...: I enjoy it also Eddie:) Seems like the good ole days.; 11:22 AM
Unknown said...: Actually, I think the 2007 team was one win away from the SECCG if I recall correctly.; 11:23 AM
Monica said...: Oh that is right, Eddie! I had almost forgotten. I'll have to send you one of my extra special, Friday edition, email. ;-); 11:24 AM
j-z said...: Any year we lose to Mississippi State, we aren't competitive.; 11:24 AM
Aeronaut said...: That would One game would be the 45-20 DRUMMING at the hands of uga.

And they took a knee on 2nd down inside Auburn's red zone with more than 3 odd minutes to spare.; 11:26 AM
AUfan said...: I see where Erin Andrews wants to be on the next "Dancing with the Stars." If that happens, I may have to break down and watch an episode.; 11:32 AM
Monica said...: You have mail, Eddie. You might not want to open it if you're at work. :-); 11:36 AM
Seanzie said...: Monica, I'm a glutton for punishment, I but I like to engage people just for the hey of it...it's just what I do.; 11:38 AM
Unknown said...: No, the UGA game wasn't it. It would be the MSU game we basically lost because they took out Cox and played Kodi.; 11:47 AM
Eddie McCoy said...: Thanks for the mail Mon!!! I needed that.; 11:49 AM
Unknown said...: By the way, Marshall seems to be thinking we go 8-4 this season, 9-3 at best. Those numbers seem a bit overly optimistic to me. A winning season seems like the appropriate measure of success considering the circumstances. I would consider 8 wins a huge success.; 11:49 AM
j-z said...: And who exactly took Cox out, Steve?; 11:50 AM
Seanzie said...: Well we have three games we should win without a doubt, there are other teams which are in a similar situation and I would say there are 4 of those...and the rest we will be underdogs in but those teams also aren't without question marks. It depends on your prespective and how many you think we can steal against like competition.; 11:51 AM
Anonymous said...: TarHeel, it's FRIDAY!!!!! Better than never! We have been CRAZY here today. I haven't had a chance to check the HABOTN until now.; 11:53 AM
Seanzie said...: I'm having to get out my HABOTN fix for the week in today...I was exiled to NW Arkansas for the better part of this week.; 11:55 AM
Unknown said...: Every healthy family has a crazy uncle....Bobby Lowder is our crazy uncle!!!!!!!!; 11:56 AM
Seanzie said...: I think SteveFC is offically the crazy uncle...but we love him all the same.; 11:59 AM
Unknown said...: My guess is that Borges took Cox out, although it could have been CTT. I do think CTT was likely overly fond of Kodi, as a lot of fans were until reality hit.; 12:02 PM
Unknown said...: And if Cox were playing this season I would say we win 9 or 10. He was that good.; 12:04 PM
Anonymous said...: Monica, I pretty much just scrolled all the way to the end. This argument is so old and tired. Not only do I refuse to contribute to it, but I won't read about it anymore either.; 12:05 PM
Seanzie said...: I'm still wondering about this news...is this just an internet rumor that grew into a monster or is there really something good coming out this afternoon?; 12:05 PM
Anonymous said...: Seanzie, what were doing in NW Arkansas?; 12:06 PM
Unknown said...: Sean, I am wondering the same. I have heard nothing from a credible source that this is even going to happen.; 12:06 PM
Seanzie said...: I was on vendor business w/ the one and only Wal-Mart.; 12:09 PM
Seanzie said...: I also learned how to call the hogs...we actually talked some Arkansas staff folks at a restaurant to do it for us. They were good sports.; 12:10 PM
Anonymous said...: Once again, the mouse running the wheel of 740's online stream has gone on strike.

Dang mice. Always wanting extra cheese.; 12:15 PM
Anonymous said...: Wal-mart is one of your clients? Nice!

OOOOOOOOOOO......Pig....Souie!!!!; 12:15 PM
Unknown said...: A candidate for the understatement of the year has been submitted in this quote from Gus Malzahn: "There must have been some kind of issue last year."; 12:16 PM
Seanzie said...: Luv, I work with all of our national customers...Also working on something with Best Buy.; 12:18 PM
Seanzie said...: How's that for name dropping? ;); 12:18 PM
Unknown said...: Malzahn has also referred to Troop as the best receivers coach in the nation. Hmmm, why didn't someone say that about Knox?; 12:18 PM
Aeronaut said...: Steve. Chris Slaughter had applied for release BEFORE the Iron Bowl.

The official story is that Chris Slaughter's mother was sick and he went there. The same reason that he said was for his transfer. Dunno why you think it was because of coaching change.

Chris Slaughter was long gone before Tubs left. Chris Slaughter was berated by xCTT after his stellar performance in Ole Miss game. That was the end of it.

The statement that coaching change resulted in talent leaving .. is absolutely incorrect with zero backing.; 12:19 PM
Unknown said...: Walmart is interesting to work with. They are very picky. I can't talk too much about it, but an example that Walmart does not allow splicing of wires in their stores. If you run a cable from one side of the store to the other and it comes up a foot short, you pull it out and get another cable.; 12:20 PM
Seanzie said...: Steve, dead on re: Wal-Mart.; 12:23 PM
Norm said...: Steve - measure twice, cut once.; 12:23 PM
Eddie McCoy said...: Steve- Not sure what you deem credible, but Bryan Mathews of Auburnsports.com has confirmed that there will be good news out this evening.; 12:27 PM
Commish of Old Pimps said...: Xaff:

I remember that berating of Slaughter by TT and my puzzled reaction. I felt like the Dad in Parenthood: "What are you yelling at him for, he's the best [receiver] you got!!??"

I love TT, but his inexplicable smugness over the years in the face of atrocious play can only be explained by delusions of (lingering 2004) grandeur.; 12:27 PM
wtc said...: Just got caught up on the postings:

so does anybody think Tubbs was headed in the right direction in 2008. I can't get a reading on how this group feels about that.; 12:27 PM
Seanzie said...: WTC, I'm in the 'No' group.; 12:32 PM
Unknown said...: Thanks eddie. I will check it out.; 12:33 PM
Eddie McCoy said...: Absolutely Not; 12:34 PM
Norm said...: WTC - when do you find out your lottery standing? I think we're opting for Charlotte on 12/12.; 12:35 PM
wtc said...: I liked Tubbs but he gets no vote from me. If anyone wants to argue about it, just read the previuos 200 posts and form your own opinion.
I will say I thought we got a bum rap from the ESPN crowd. Their view seemed to suggest Tubbs was fired because of Saban. Like they were trying to make the news (surprise) instead of just reporting it.; 12:36 PM
Seanzie said...: We no longer have news only newstainment.; 12:38 PM
wtc said...: Norm-I think they start the drawing on 06.01.09. I should find out by the next day.
Part of me will no tbe disappointed if I do not get in. I have been riding my road bike a good bit and the running is falling off. Ithink I would rather ride 100 miles on the bike than run 26 in NYC.; 12:38 PM
Unknown said...: I haven't seen anything online about the Auburn announcement today. Has anyone got a link?; 12:41 PM
WarEagleRK said...: "It would be the MSU game we basically lost because they took out Cox and played Kodi."

What?

Cox started the game 0-3 with two interceptions.

MSU was up 13-0 when Cox was pulled and Kodi came in and suddenly it was 14-13.

We lost the game because on a 3rd and 14 that would have held Miss State to a FG when the game was still 14-13 late in the game, they ran Dixon right by Quintin Groves for 16 yards who admited he didn't even know what play was called because he was too busy trying to get the Auburn sack record to play the right D.

Cox came back in late in the game and moved us down field, but threw the final pass of the game into the dirt 5 yards in front of any receiver.; 12:44 PM
Seanzie said...: I dare someone to click that link.; 12:45 PM
Jet said...: I think my position in re Tubs is crystal clear.; 12:46 PM
Norm said...: Sean - it ain't gonna be this company man.; 12:46 PM
Unknown said...: I just read where Saban has a graduate assistant that use to be the offensive coordinator at Virginia. Now, that is different. I am not really into Alabama news, but that is definitely unique.; 12:48 PM
Anonymous said...: Bet that isn't another Rick-Roll.; 12:49 PM
Anonymous said...: Steve,

That was out a while back. It's unique but not unheard of. If memory serves, that's Al Groh's son.; 12:49 PM
Aeronaut said...: On Baseball front, Auburn's 'HITTING COACH' resigned.

I thought AU was doing pretty good on hitting front.; 12:51 PM
Unknown said...: RK, Cox had two interceptions early in that game, one of which was his fault. If he had played the entire game, we would have won. Kodi was good in spurts, but once the MSU defense adjusted to him, we were done.; 12:52 PM
Unknown said...: Thanks Sensi. I really try to avoid following Alabama. I just find life more peaceful that way, but I saw the reference in a more general article.; 12:53 PM
WarEagleRK said...: Auburn lived and died by the home run this year, the hitting coach never taught patience and made the players learn the significance of working the count deep to tire out the starting pitching for the other team.

That is a huge thing in college baseball if you can tire someone's ace out early.; 12:54 PM
WarEagleRK said...: I still put a lot of heat on Groves for that game. A clutch situation where we needed a stop and he had no clue what defense was called because he was selfishly going for an individual record.

Had we gotten a stop there, even if they hit the FG, Cox does enough to get us down at the other end to kick the game winner.; 12:55 PM
WarEagleRK said...: So what am I missing on this big good news thing today?; 12:55 PM
wtc said...: AU had a school record in homeruns but blew passed the previuos strikeout record. WAY too many strikeouts for a college team.; 12:56 PM
Seanzie said...: RK, I'm hearing it's something to do with recruiting but I bet it's not all that big and I bet it's not news.; 12:58 PM
wtc said...: The news today is the FSJ is really that shark dude/dudette that shows up every once in a while. He does that so he can vent on us and then go back to the nice UA guy that we like. And he laughs all day at us about it.; 12:59 PM
wtc said...: With all those linebackers, I think the news could be that UAT runs a 1-9-1 defense next year.; 1:00 PM
Seanzie said...: You could run the 1-9-1 if your 1 in the secondary was Eric Berry.; 1:03 PM
Unknown said...: I do agree Groves made a stupid move there and I think I read where he admitted it.

That was the first game that really showed the Kodi wasn't as billed. Once the MSU defense wasn't concerned with his passing, we were done. If I remember correctly, he did hit one very long pass, over 50 yards, in the first half, but he wasn't an SEC caliber QB and still is not. Cox was. Although Cox had a few games in his career where he was terrible, a lot of it had to do with the lack of playmakers on offense, chiefly the receivers. It is also what gave Jason Campbell so much problems in 2003. Although he all star runningbacks, our receivers had a bad habit of dropping the ball. Actually I had a discussion before a game in the al.com forum with someone that hated Campbell that year. I told him to watch the game closely and notice how many passes are dropped. His opinion changed.

In Cox's case, he tended to force things to make things happen when it was apparent the running game was going nowhere.

Don't forget that with Cox as the QB, we had the number 1 offense in the SEC in 2005. Yes, some of the blame for the losses in 2007 goes to Cox, but he was far from the primary issue. He was very under appreciated. He is actually one of the best clutch players we have had at QB and lead many late drives for wins. He just also had a couple of games (Georgia) where he had a horrible time.; 1:03 PM
Seanzie said...: I heart Brandon Cox.; 1:04 PM
WarEagleRK said...: Kenny Irons, Ben Obomanu, Devin Aromashodu and Courtney Taylor also had a lot to do with that # 1 scoring offense in 2005.

All in all Cox was an average SEC QB who could be good depending on the playmakers around him. On his best day he was a good SEC QB. Not great, but good.; 1:07 PM
Monica said...: are there streaming issues with 740 again today?; 1:10 PM
Unknown said...: Good is how I would characterize Cox. I am not sure how good he would have been with an offensive line and a few receivers in 2007, but he is better than anything we have now.; 1:11 PM
Jet said...: Monica,

I ...

Nevermind.; 1:12 PM
Unknown said...: Hmmm, I haven't repeated my pep talk for our offense in a while, so I will restate it. Try and go out there and not do something stupid. Our defense can win it.; 1:15 PM
Seanzie said...: Live to punt, eh steve?; 1:16 PM
Unknown said...: Could our crack reporter be out trying to find out the good news at Auburn? Inquiring minds want to know.; 1:16 PM
Seanzie said...: I want to know something, I'm bored out of my mind today.; 1:17 PM
WarEagleRK said...: Cox was an average SEC QB, who you just asked not to make mistakes.

His best season as 2300 yards passing , 15 TD's & 8 ints.

Nothing to set the world on fire, but enough to be solid if you have a good running game.; 1:18 PM
Norm said...: Sean - click the above link. That's sure to bring about some excitement to your day.; 1:18 PM
Unknown said...: Live to punt is one of my favorite statements and the biggest contribution to our world by Ensminger. I liked that statement so much I had it as part of my nick for some time. I also want a t-shirt that says that. It is philosophy that Nietzsche would be proud of.; 1:19 PM
Seanzie said...: Norm, I like being employed but if it's still around this evening I will most definitely click it.; 1:19 PM
Unknown said...: Yea, that is about the way I would describe it. We need a QB that can pass for around close to 200 yards a game with the majority of the completions being to our players.; 1:20 PM
Jet said...: Neitzsche said, "Out of chaos comes order."; 1:20 PM
Unknown said...: Then we will be the most well ordered team the world has ever known this season.; 1:21 PM
Seanzie said...: As long as they have their helmets in a line I think we'll be fine.; 1:22 PM
Unknown said...: By the way RK, I am also a Randy Campbell fan, and he couldn't pass nearly as well as Cox. He just was very good at not doing something stupid and handing the ball off to some dude named Bo.; 1:22 PM
AUfan said...: If the offense goes out and plays not to lose, Auburn can forget getting big-time offensive players. I don't think Malzahn would have came to Auburn if that was going to be the approach. The offense has to show signs of life to show the recruits that are needed here that they will be given the chance to show their talents. The way the recent offenses have looked at Auburn, I don't blame offensive players for not coming here.; 1:23 PM
WarEagleRK said...: Randy Campbell was a really good option QB. He was a great fit for the offense we ran at that time.

Unlike Pat Washington who was recruited for the option, but was ill equipt to run what our offense had morphed into in 84 and 85.; 1:25 PM
Unknown said...: depressed, you always play to win. Actually, the second half of last season we played to not lose. The problem was, our defense got pretty darn banged up.

The biggest thing with a QB is that they cannot win the game for you, but they sure can lose it. One of the criticism I had of Cox was that at times he didn't know when to just throw the ball away.; 1:26 PM
Unknown said...: Pat Washington turned into a big disappointment. There was one season we went into the Tennessee game with a 3 QB competition and he was one of them. I think the others were Charlie Trotman and Charlie Thomas. It was one of the ugliest games of the Pat Dye era.; 1:28 PM
Unknown said...: My biggest hope for this next season is that when our offense gets the ball, I consider it a good thing.; 1:29 PM
Jet said...: Depressed,

I guess to me that's what is the stupid thing about Tuberville. He knew we needed to change. Why else would he hire Franklin?

There can be no halfway commitment to a vision.; 1:29 PM
WarEagleRK said...: Charlie Trotman was from the late 70's...maybe you were thinking Jeff Burger?; 1:30 PM
Jet said...: Steve ...

The other QBs were Bobby Walden and Jeff Burger. Washington ended up being the QB the rest of the way.; 1:30 PM
Unknown said...: That is very possible. My memory gets bad at times.

Every time our offense took the field last season, the dying words of a redneck came to mind: "Watch this"!!!

I do hope my impression changes this season. I like what I am hearing from Malzahn although a lot of it sounds similar to the Franklin Experience, the big differences I hear are vertical passing game and power running. I haven't heard Malzahn say we would set up the run with the pass.; 1:34 PM
Jay G. Tate said...: Next coach: Curtis Luper.

I'll have his "coaching spotlight" up by 3 p.m.; 1:42 PM
Jet said...: The big news is that Chiz is building a swimming pool, and he's flying us all in next summer to christen it!

That's it! That's the big one!; 1:48 PM
Norm said...: Jet - I can only imagine Caddyshack for that "christening".; 1:50 PM
Commish of Old Pimps said...: When discussing Brandon Cox's merit as an SEC QB, one must distinguish between B.Cox I (pre-LSU 2006) and B.Cox II (post-LSU 2006). I think injuries, and primarily the injuries suffered during that game, had much to do with turning an above average QB into a mediocre or sub-average QB.; 1:52 PM
Seanzie said...: If only Cox had the talent to match his heart...we would have been unstoppable.; 1:54 PM
Aubie said...: I think Mike Mann was the 3rd head of that 3 headed QB monster.; 1:54 PM
WarEagleRK said...: 1985 showed that you can have the best RB in the world, but if you have a QB who doesn't scare the D at all, then it won't work.

We went to the pro-style offense a year too late. Had we done that in 85 and had Burger as the starter we might have been able to justify our # 1 ranking that year.; 1:58 PM
Monica said...: Nietzsch also said, “You have your way. I have my way. As for the right way, the correct way, and the only way, it does not exist.”

Monica said, "Thank you, Jet, for showing some restraint."; 2:04 PM
AUfan said...: Jet, you are dead-on with the halfway vision statement. Auburn lost its identity on offense and the team followed suit. The players played with a total lack of confidence. Chizik seems determined to bring back a hard-nosed identity to the team. I don't know how many wins that will equal, but I look forward to seeing some signs of life in the program. I saw no signs of that life last year.; 2:06 PM
Monica said...: hey Luv - I don't read 'em either. At this point I could just about write 'em.; 2:09 PM
Jet said...: With all your griping, we should just call you Moanica.; 2:17 PM
Monica said...: Oh we're pretending you don't already call me that for your special Jet reasons?; 2:19 PM
Jet said...: Shhhhhhhh.; 2:21 PM
Harrison said...: Diirrrtttyy. you're like Christina Aguilera Mon; 2:25 PM
Harrison said...: i also am tired of the same arguments guys, but I felt the need to join in today a little bit. I'd rather talk about golf or beer or boobs; 2:26 PM
Monica said...: to dirrty to clean my act up; 2:29 PM
Jet said...: My mind is pure.
My conscience is clean.
My soul is free.
And I hate UAT.; 2:30 PM
Harrison said...: jet. if only i could say the same about my underwear...; 2:32 PM
Seanzie said...: Two new threads, by the way.; 2:37 PM