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8.20.2009

HoF adjustments

Hey everyone. Periodically, we tweak our Hall of Fame (seen at right) to reflect changes in our membership. Sometimes people leave. More often, new HOTTIES arrive and make their mark.

This is the only blog that honors its most valuable posters in such a public manner. To make the list means you're valued and loved and respected by your HABOTN peers and the thousands more readers who never post.

It's quite an honor.

So here's what we're doing:

PROMOTED FROM 'NOTABLE NEWCOMERS' TO 'FEELING THE HEAT':
ehyou
digger4AU
depressedAUfan
Norm (new identity)
BinOBA
Spongeworthy
wtc
Sean
cincytiger

ADDED TO 'NOTABLE NEWCOMERS':
Aeronaut
Chocolate Scott
chip chip
coosa
Fearless Freep
wes
Jason Crawford
paulmain
Lowcountry Tiger
Craig Miller
AU1292
Loganville Tiger
IV

IT WAS FUN WHILE IT LASTED:
cotton
Cory
vrga
dan
tigerfan44
Will
wakeriderof87
Andrew
alan (from montgomery)

Also of note:

* Congratulations to all newcomers and the newly promoted. We're glad you're here!

* I have ordered the 'Feeling The Heat' with those closest to RoF consideration, at least in my view, at the top. The only way to make it into the Ring of Fire is to be voted in by current Ring of Fire members.

* I wasn't going to place IV on the list due to his very recent debut, but a few members contacted me privately to make sure IV was included.

504 Comments:

Unknown said...: I would have been wearing a rat cap a looonnnggg time. I don't think we beat them in anything until baseball my freshman year.; 7:26 PM
IV said...: We also had a freshman creed, not creed, I can't think of the word at the moment, that we were supposed to be able to repeat at any given time upon the request of an upperclassman. It went...

"Sir, since every living creature, no matter how small or insignificant, has the right to strive for its existence, I, a lowly freshman, lower than all other living creatures except the rats at Georgia Tech and Alabama, respectfully request the right to live."

I haven't forgot it after all of these years. Amazing.; 7:30 PM
Spongeworthy said...: WOW, JUST WOW. Thanks Jay for the promotion. To think that a simple minded sponge like me is moving up the ranks of the HABOTN. Let me say the following.

Love AU, Hate UA. Love AU cause its not UA. Love AU cause of the experiences I had there, not just the football. UAT doesn't get our love for AU. They never will.; 7:30 PM
cincytiger said...: IV,
My in-laws graduated from Auburn in 1954 and married the next day. They tell the story about meeting on the tennis courts that were where Haley currently stands. The girls had to wear raincoats over their tennis clothes. They also talk about sneaking into the football stadium.; 7:36 PM
Monica said...: Love your stories, IV.

RAT traditions from Ga Tech

Great stuff.; 7:37 PM
Jet said...: Mismatch (n) mis'-match -- 1) the generic state when one opponent is clearly superior to another in any competition; 2) the specific state when Dwight Freeney lines up against "Princess" Dunlap.; 7:38 PM
Anonymous said...: Steve...Re your 7:21 post. Based on the hesitant, but increasing comments from last years players, it is apparent that Tubs needed to go. It's no secret that I thought him leaving was a mistake, I was wrong. I imagine the constant PTB interference wore him down, but that is no excuse for him to quit on the team or the fans.; 7:41 PM
AUfan said...: Did I see Steve admit defeat on the Tuberville front? That has to be a Fake SteveFC:); 7:41 PM
michael said...: My parents used a variation of the rat cap on me. They made me wear a pointy hat with "dunce" on it until i proved I wasn't a moron. I wore that thing until age seventeen, when I stopped wearing it in an act of defiance. My premature removal of the hat is still a sore subject with my dad.; 7:42 PM
Jet said...: Hoopie and Steve, in the same night, acknowledge that Tubs' time had come.

Kumbayah!

Now we never have to discuss the subject again.; 7:43 PM
Spongeworthy said...: Rat caps were the bomb before my Dad entered AU after WWII. Freshmen also had to carry around a paddle with them all the time, at least in my Dads frat. At any time, an upperclassman could take the paddle and give the freshman a lick. Problem was that all these guys from WWII wouldn't put up with that, and would kick the upperclassmens A.. All that soon ended.; 7:44 PM
Spongeworthy said...: IV. My dad has repeated that Freshmen creed to me often, laughing like hell everytime. How things have changed.; 7:46 PM
Jet said...: My dad, George H.W. Jet, API, Class of '49, wore his rat hat as well, hopped tables on the Quad, and shot pool to supplement his G.I. Bill.; 7:46 PM
IV said...: Oh and yes, we had mandatory military training the first two years. That to me was not as bad has also having mandatory P. E. the first two years.

R.O.T.C did take up a good bit of time for just 1 quarter hour's credit; however, I went the Air Force R.O.T.C route rather than having to clean a rifle and polish brass like the Army cadets had to do. We had two class periods a week and drill at 1:00 P.M. for an hour on Thursdays. Ed Dyas, a great Auburn fullback was in my flight (drill unit).; 7:48 PM
Anonymous said...: Congrats to all the Hotties that are moving on up.

For the record, it now takes a lot more substance to achieve ranking than earlier days. The original guys were a small, solid group that appreciated and participated in what JGT brought to the blog, but were never able to take the HABOTN to the sometimes present levels of "Life of it's own".; 7:48 PM
Kathy said...: Took a long time to catch up on today's comments:

1) CONGRATULATIONS to all of the promotions today. All were very deserving.

2) Definitely vote for THT in ROF.....his countdown has been superb, entertaining and enlightening

3) Marc, easy decision, support Chizik and Co. We need all seats filled at kickoff.

4) JGT, we appreciate ALL of your hard work and late nights.; 7:50 PM
Jet said...: THT's election to the ROF is as safe as Michael's re-election as King of Eurasia, Queen of HABOTN, and Thigh Master.; 7:52 PM
Monica said...: Agree 100%; 7:54 PM
Monica said...: Tiger Transit Real Time location

Tried to get this real-time locator service for the city of Huntington about a year ago with I was working with the transit authority on their new website and they, like most city governments, couldn't afford it. Auburn University has it. LOL; 7:58 PM
Fearless Freep said...: Omnica:

Thanks for the TBOOK link. My favorite running gag/tradition of all time, regardless of origin, is listed on that site:

The Legend Of George P. Burdell.

The Colonel told me the computer registration story not long after it happened. Absolutely awesome prank.; 8:01 PM
Monica said...: ha Freep - I love that stuff.; 8:04 PM
Tar Heel Tiger said...: MissTHT and I have been laughing uncontrollably at the great Hottie wit. I want some.; 8:07 PM
ehyou said...: jet....
Your speaking of which earlier reminds me - I ran across HJR 280 the other day. With sincerity, please accept my salute.; 8:07 PM
Tar Heel Tiger said...: best advice I've ever heard:

to the person that was questioning whether to stay in Atlanta for the UAT-VT game or go to our Auburn, always but always take the option to go to Auburn. God has given us only a certain amount of opportunities to go to Auburn. Always go with God's plan.

I think it front page worthy.; 8:08 PM
Spongeworthy said...: Off topic, but does anyone remember the Ronco Vegamatic, a little plastic food processor device that had SS blades. You could put potatoes in it, mash it down real hard, and WAALA, fresh cut fries of any size. I had one in Auburn that I took from home and I bet we cut and fried 5000 russets in my 4,oops, 5 years there.; 8:09 PM
ehyou said...: I was at Tech in '92 and '93. At that time George P. Burdell was alive and well.; 8:09 PM
BigEZ said...: I'm feelin' the heat, even though I'm .... not ....I'm just glad that you guys aren't like the posters on Rivals. Good grief, talk about snobby sometimes...; 8:10 PM
FSJ said...: Happy Paul Ott Carruth Day to all my Crimson brothers and sisters!; 8:11 PM
ehyou said...: FSJ...crickets; 8:12 PM
BigEZ said...: I'm not crying like Tebow, but I promise to the best poster from here on out and no one will ever work harder or outwork or practice harder than me...blah...blah I wanted a perfect season but you know...; 8:14 PM
Tar Heel Tiger said...: whatever thread is front and center at 00:00:01 EDT tonight will get the post for Day 15 in the Kickoff Kountdown.

I had to go to Plan B when I could find no evidence that the intended honoree ever wore a #15 jersey (I didn't check pro years). I have no idea what prompted me to pencil him in at 15. The only connection I could find was that at one time, in fact for an entire year, he was 15 years old. And 15 years later, he was exactly 15 years older. However, I believe that could be applied to many former AU football players, so it wasn't enough to keep this fellow at 15. You'll see him soon enough.; 8:14 PM
Kathy said...: The police officer SAW Upshaw chase down Grzyb and "grabbed (Kendall) Grzyb by the back of the neck and hair with his right hand and pushed her downward in what appeared to be an attempt to push her to the ground."

Her father states "simple lovers' quarrel altercation," and that "I honestly think it was probably initiated by my daughter. I don't think he laid a hand on her. He just tried to restraint her to keep from getting hit again."
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My husband, who is a fan of the team not to be mentioned, would be all over this dude if he laid a hand on our daughter regardless of the circumstances.; 8:15 PM
ehyou said...: THT...
As long as the history is accurate and I learn about Auburn lore, I don't give a flip what number he wore.; 8:16 PM
Tar Heel Tiger said...: Sponge - I bought my mom one of those for Christmas when I was 8 years old. She did not use it once. I learned not to waste good kitchen appliances on women, so MrsTHT gets useless stuff for Christmas.; 8:17 PM
Spongeworthy said...: FSJ. Whats going on over there at the Crapstone? A little one two punching between LB and significant other? Not judging. We couldn't have that at AU right now. At the rate we are going, our guys would get injured in a cat fight like that....; 8:18 PM
Quitstina said...: No matter what witnesses say there will always be those who think "The girl had it coming to her."

Sad that it's her father thinking that though.; 8:18 PM
Tar Heel Tiger said...: ehyou, I'm guessing you aren't a fan of Monk.; 8:19 PM
Monica said...: Glad to see you here more and more, EZ.

Amen, Kathy and that's all I'm going to say about that. You all should thank me for avoiding that slippery slope.; 8:19 PM
Spongeworthy said...: Tar, I'm tellin you we gave that vegamatic a real workout. We lived on fries and yellow rice, plus the usual generic beer that was popular at the time. White cans that said beer. Fallstaff I think.; 8:20 PM
FSJ said...: zookeeper...a dude hits my daughter and he will be one messed up linebacker when I get through with him.; 8:20 PM
Jet said...: I am not prone to violence.

A boy hurts the Stewardess, and he'll be eating Jasmine Hill Oysters for dinner.; 8:22 PM
FSJ said...: sponge...

For a team to have linebackers that get in trouble with the law, a team must have linebackers to begin with.

I kid.; 8:23 PM
Spongeworthy said...: Kristina, Anyone regardless of the circumstances that decides to lay a hand on my daughter gets introduced to my 12 gauge. Wassup with a dad like that. No excuse to hit a girl, even if she's no lady. An thas all I gahtta say bout that.; 8:24 PM
Tar Heel Tiger said...: if a dude hits my daughter, I'm guessing all I would get a chance to do would be stomp on the human remains left behind by MrsTHT.; 8:24 PM
Kathy said...: FSJ, sad but true. We are running short on linebackers.; 8:24 PM
Eddie McCoy said...: Albama's new slogan- W.W.S.D. What would Saban Do.; 8:25 PM
FSJ said...: Hopefully he won't get an ice cream like Juwan Simpson.; 8:26 PM
Quitstina said...: Oh don't think for a second I was condoning that attitude. I was just saying it was a sad commentary on our society that people will automatically accuse the girl of wrongdoing despite the facts. In this case it's even worse because it's her dad.

Like Mrs. THT, there won't be much left if someone pulls that crap with my girl.; 8:27 PM
Kathy said...: Upshaw will be "behavioral probation," said Saban, who also called the sophomore "as fine a young man as we have in the program."

What the heck is that?; 8:27 PM
Spongeworthy said...: FSJ. All those that could have even possibly played LB this year at AU have already been kicked off the team. It will cost us a few games. But, as Sabear found out his first year, keeping them would cost you some games as well.; 8:28 PM
Eddie McCoy said...: Not to be negative, but we have major issues right now that are going to make things very difficult for us to be successful this year. These injuries are really starting to take a toll. We are having problems at positions wr cannot afford.; 8:28 PM
Monica said...: Totally agree, Kristina. I heard a guy on the radio today saying "well she was a drama queen" and "well he was just trying to get her to talk to him"...maddening.

I'm not doubting any of you guys who say you'd take action against the guy who hurt your daughter, but when's the last time you heard of a Dad going after a perpetrator of violence? I hear people say that all the time - I've said it before about my own sisters...You'd think the streets would be littered with guys who had hurt girls. Oh well.; 8:29 PM
ehyou said...: THT....
I am Martin Crane to your Frasier.; 8:30 PM
Spongeworthy said...: Kristina. Sabear is beyond reproach. Watch what you say before the REC gestapo show up at your door....; 8:31 PM
FSJ said...: This comment has been removed by the author.; 8:31 PM
Eddie McCoy said...: If an Auburn player did that to my daughter I would be all over them. The behavior of that Father is despicable.; 8:32 PM
Quitstina said...: Sabear can kiss my you know what, sponge; 8:32 PM
FSJ said...: lol..like he would do that zookeeper.; 8:33 PM
Eddie McCoy said...: Well, if Sabear told the Alabama fans to kiss his you know what, there would be a line forming quickly outside his office.; 8:34 PM
Quitstina said...: You haven't seen my you know what. He might...; 8:34 PM
Spongeworthy said...: Eddie. that's become painfully obvious lately. When a walk on is your third LB, we are in trouble. I haven't heard, but are the injuries serious. About how long to heal. I know Spencer has a concussion.; 8:34 PM
Eddie McCoy said...: FSJ would pucker up his lips :)!; 8:34 PM
Monica said...: Kathy - That's a pathetic response on Saban's part. Shameful and helps perpetuate the problem.; 8:36 PM
ehyou said...: I am carrying the torch for the Sunshine Pumpers Brigade. My regiment is decimated.; 8:36 PM
Quitstina said...: Hmmmm...I should probably delete that. A crazy night at the zoo coupled with slight feminist rage = zookeeper's filter broken; 8:37 PM
FSJ said...: Eddie,

I look at it like this...He may be an SOB....but he's our SOB.; 8:37 PM
AUfan said...: Speaking of LB injuries, is Adam Herring going to play this year? He missed spring practice, and as best I can tell, he has not practiced this fall. I'm not asking for specific injury details, just wondering what his status is.; 8:37 PM
Eddie McCoy said...: Sponge- I don't know how serious these injuries are, but Freeman has not only a "hamstring" injury, but also a big cast that nobody seems to mention. The fact we had Sullen working with the 1st team yesterday and a walk-on as a backup does not bold well. If we are relying on play nickel defense due to injuries and have said such, it scares the dickens out of me. Houston, we have a problem. Sorry, but it's not looking good at this point. We are lucky that we have our "easy" stretch early. I would hate to start off with a bang scheduling wise.; 8:37 PM
Monica said...: I love Frasier and Marty.; 8:38 PM
ehyou said...: I am man enough to force Little Nicky to perform acts Kristina mentioned.; 8:38 PM
Monica said...: Saban missed a chance to take a real stand on an important issues and he screwed it up. He's official a POS in my book.; 8:39 PM
Eddie McCoy said...: FSJ- Give me your serious thoughts on these two issues: A) Do you take blame in the Utah loss? and B) Do you find his media tirade yesterday acceptable?

Sorry, but he treats you "fans" like crap and you guys think he is the next comming of Jesus Christ. I'm sorry, I just don't get it. Not even Urban Meyer has this level of obsessed fans.; 8:40 PM
FSJ said...: I take no blame in the Utah loss outside of not wearing my lucky Bama shirt.

The tirade yesterday..I've only read a transcript so I can't comment other than to say that the morons covering UA couldn't hold JGT's jockey scrap ($1.00 to Coach George E. Baker); 8:42 PM
Eddie McCoy said...: Saban has proved that he will do whatever it takes to win. Like staggering suspensions to not miss "big" games to this crap. That is one thing I always loved Tubs about and that was that he would not tolerate this crap and sit players, no matter how good the were. I hope Chizik follows in his footsteps on this issue.; 8:43 PM
FSJ said...: One other thing..people act like Paul Bryant was the warm and cuddly old man that he was during his last five years of life. He was as big an SOB as Saban.

The South Central Bell commercial did more to mold this myth than anything.; 8:44 PM
Eddie McCoy said...: FSJ- Thank you for being level headed on the Utah game. I heard people calling in on the Montgomery station saying that they agreed with Saban and that just absolutely baffled me.

As far as yesterday's tirade, he got mad at a guy publishing an incorrect depth chart that he did ot approve. I take it that he knows his players read the papers and the hype and he hates when it is incorrect. I guess is depth chart is so secret that the players themselves don't know where they stand (WHATEVER). That whole thing yesterday was ridiculous.; 8:46 PM
Eddie McCoy said...: Well FSJ, that's not completely true about Bear being just as big an SOB. His assistant coaches loved him. Saban's assistants pretty much cannot stand him for very long.; 8:48 PM
Jet said...: Unless I miss my mark, if a coach is concerned about the arrangement of helmets on the sideline, he will not respond kindly to violence towards women or other acts misogny.; 8:51 PM
Monica said...: I think I missed the part where people thought Coach Bryant was warm and cuddly. My impressions of him were hard ass, great coach, alcoholic womanizer. I guess you could be all that with a warm fuzzy side...; 8:53 PM
shesaid said...: In case you guys missed it, and I hope I'm not restating this, a guy called into WNSP's Sports Drive this afternoon and said that obviously the girl that slapped Upshaw in the face was a "jock-sniffin' harlot if her daddy won't even defend her....ROLL TIDE!" Stay classy!; 8:54 PM
Unknown said...: Man, that Saban guy is cruel. I hear he put this Upshaw guy in timeout or something. Ooh the humanity.; 8:54 PM
Miller said...: I think it says something about the people associated with the $puat program when Upshaw is "as fine a young man as we have in the program."

And that something isn't favorable...; 8:55 PM
Anonymous said...: 1. She shouldn't have slapped him..if he was cheating, he wasn't worth it.

2. By the old rules, the dude, if slapped, should just walk away.

3. In today's world, he should call the police, if slapped.

4. Chasing down...and anything else....is unacceptable and shouldn't be minimized by $aban.; 8:56 PM
Miller said...: Warm and cuddly is one thought that has never crossed my mind regarding Bryant...

I always thought of him as a drunk SOB.; 8:57 PM
Eddie McCoy said...: I think my punishment of 4 minutes in timeout for my daughter tonight for hitting me is more than Upshaw will get from this. It must be nice to go to jail and have your coach say that you are as fine a person as he has on the team. It speaks volume about his team then.; 8:58 PM
Anonymous said...: Mon...when I was a youngun...I saw first hand, some of the Bear traits of which you speak.; 8:58 PM
Miller said...: If he was cheating, he deserved to be slapped... if he got slapped, he shoulda walked away...

Nowhere in the conversation should "chased down and grabbed" ever have come up...; 8:59 PM
Eddie McCoy said...: I don't know what to think about Bryant. He was died when I was 5. Sorry, I have lived a Bear free life and Auburn has had the upperhand on bama during my life time so far.; 9:00 PM
Quitstina said...: I'm with Monica and DM. I never think of Bear in a warm cuddly sort of way.

I think that has more to do with the Alabama fan base turning him into a deity.; 9:00 PM
BigEZ said...: I've said this before but I can't wait to spend my first football season on the HABOTN.; 9:00 PM
FSJ said...: Cuddly Bear; 9:00 PM
Eddie McCoy said...: By the way, incase you are doubting it, I HATE BAMA WITH A PASSION!!!! No more Mr. nice guy on my show, i'm taking the gloves off and throwing punches, on everything.

Also, Chizik better get at least one of these big name recruits we are after, or else this whole recruiting buzz is a complete flop. I think he will, but every week we seem to fade just a little bit on most of the big ones.; 9:03 PM
Miller said...: While we're speaking of punishment...
Quentin Groves said it earlier today, "I think the justice system need some work!!! 2 years for shooting yourself and 23 months for homicide while under the influence u tell me?"

Does anyone find it odd that Plax Burress gets 2 years in prison for shooting his own dang leg, but Donte Stallworth gets 23 months for driving drunk and killing somebody?

There is just something wrong with that picture... something just doesn't add up.; 9:03 PM
Eddie McCoy said...: D.Miller- I agree completely!; 9:04 PM
Miller said...: The only other way I have ever seen Bryant is as a old rotting corpse.

He's been dead my entire lifetime (sans a couple of months...); 9:05 PM
Quitstina said...: You guys are really stoking the ol' righteous indignation fires tonight. I need to stop.; 9:05 PM
Anonymous said...: The psuedo-depth chart I saw posted coming out of Spring had BEddins backing up BIsom. Is Eddins also hurt?

If there was ever a chance and a need for the backups that have been on campus for a few years to step up, this is the year.; 9:06 PM
Monica said...: Thanks for affirming my impressions, Hoopie.

Dusty - No, she shouldn't have slapped him. Period.; 9:06 PM
Jet said...: I am righteously ignorant. I mean, indigent. I mean, oh, whatever.; 9:07 PM
Eddie McCoy said...: Eddins and Herring are both not practicing. I'm assuming that they are injured, but I have not heard. Like I said, we are in trouble, especially when they are already game planning around these injuries.; 9:07 PM
wartiger said...: Watched the 2000 South Carolina vs MSU game the other day...I am SO ready for the season...; 9:08 PM
wartiger said...: This comment has been removed by the author.; 9:08 PM
cincytiger said...: Eddie,
What are you hearing that makes you say we are fading a little bit each week on the big recruits?; 9:08 PM
Monica said...: I just can't get into watching old games. Highlights I totally dig. The entire game? Ain't happenin.; 9:09 PM
Anonymous said...: Eddie...I have totally missed that we are already game planning around injuries. Where did you hear that?; 9:12 PM
ehyou said...: I would watch the entirety of any Auburn game over anything on TV tonight.; 9:13 PM
Eddie McCoy said...: Cincy- Just reading rivlas and they are saying. Here is two examples:

Seastrunk was 80% and rising about being an Auburn committment. He is now 60% and falling. Most say we lead, but they are not sure. He was supposed to be an Auburn lock, right?

Dyer- 80% to Auburn, but now it seams that he is opening up his recruitment and now not naming any leaders. He is taking a visit to Ole Miss.

Lattimore- Was at one point a 60% lean. He now is 30%.

Fortt- LB from Connecticut, was a 55% or so guy at one point and now he is 20%.

What has all this buzz done? I'm not sure much other than excite us fans to believe things are going to be very different and i'm affraid we may end up playing second fiddle as always.

I hope that many of these guys are just waiting to see the product on the field, but that is a best case scenerio.; 9:13 PM
ehyou said...: Saban has never had back-back 10 win seasons.; 9:15 PM
Unknown said...: I don't believe Bear was a bad buy. I believe he was a drunk and took advantage of the rules, but I didn't see much of what I would call cheating. Remember that Shug and Bear were friends.

I admire coaches like Shug and Bear. You didn't hear about their players getting in trouble often and when they did, it was corrected quickly.

And yes, I really hated Bear during the 70s, but I have mellowed.; 9:15 PM
cincytiger said...: Thanks, Eddie, I hope you are right and they just want to see what the coaches do on the field. WHo knows what great things the coaches are planning when they make their official trips.; 9:16 PM
ehyou said...: The Falcons have never had back-back winning seasons.

Go Falcons!; 9:17 PM
Unknown said...: Eddie, so far this recruiting class has been disappointing. Things could change with a few big signings, but it doesn't appear to be on par with last year at this point. How much did Bryce Brown and David Oku's interest help us?

The bottom line is we have to have a good season to impress some of these recruits.; 9:18 PM
Eddie McCoy said...: Hoopie- They are going to run a nickel defense due to the lack of linebackers. Power running teams will have a field day against us if that is the case.; 9:19 PM
Monica said...: i didn't know the falcons still had fans...i wasn't even sure if they still had a team

:-); 9:20 PM
Eddie McCoy said...: Steve- No offense, last year's class was only good in numbers. It sucked as far as who we were signing.; 9:20 PM
Unknown said...: Eddie, that is very true. Last year's class was the worst we have had since the 90s, mainly because it didn't fit our needs.; 9:21 PM
michael said...: What is my impression of Bear Bryant? "Hey everyone! This is Bear Bryant posting on HABOTN! Look at me!"

Was that a good impression?; 9:21 PM
Eddie McCoy said...: ehyou- You are correct, but he does have 2 SEC Championships and a Crystal Ball in a short stint at LSU and already doing big things at bama. I hate Saban but I respect what he has accomplished.; 9:23 PM
Unknown said...: What I am really looking for this year is a team that looks prepared. We could go 3-9 and I could still feel better about this season than last. What happened last year was unfair to a lot of kids that put their trust in the coaches to be professionals and lead them.; 9:23 PM
michael said...: Eddie, Saban is a horrible coach! Quit being a bammer!; 9:23 PM
Anonymous said...: Last year I was worried that the press and the AU fans were way too optimistic.....just b/c of the Peach bowl win.

This year doesn't look well, but how about let's wait until we play some games before sounding alarms. BTW...sounding alarms will only serve to warn overly optimistic fans and other than that won't change anything.

Just for kicks, go back and look at the SEC preseason picks and compare with the final rankings. The press is more wrong than right in these picks There are just too many variables that occur during the season.

Our injured team could limp through and barely win the first few games, then get some folks back and be actually stronger for hav ing to rely on the backups. It could just as easily go from bad to worse. Unknown variables...and Lady Luck will play a large role in the outcome.

Be good to us Mon...I mean...Darling Lady Luck.; 9:23 PM
ehyou said...: Bear was a successful jerk (sound familiar?) That don't mean I gotta like him.; 9:24 PM
Eddie McCoy said...: Michael- If you slurred your words it might have been a better impression, at least that is what i've been told.; 9:24 PM
michael said...: We can officially not go 3-9 and end up with me feeling better than last year. Enough talent is here to go to a bowl game for sure. If they go 3-9, then they most definitely have not been prepared.; 9:24 PM
Jet said...: I have the suspicion that some of the folks on the side are there out of an abundance of caution.

Some of them are guys they know can play. Others are folks who need the reps.; 9:26 PM
Spongeworthy said...: Eddie, Eddins continues to have problems with his knee. After two or three surgeries to correct what seemed to be fairly minor issues. I saw too where Chizik indicated they were already planning nickle defense, etc to limit number of LB's on field. Problem with that is we are short at Safety and CB. Nothing going our way right now.

Recruiting, I'll judge when I see who signs. So much can happen between now and signing day.; 9:26 PM
Unknown said...: Your record depends upon how good the other team is. How prepared you are doesn't. Let's face it. We didn't deserve a W for sucking less than UT last season.; 9:27 PM
Anonymous said...: Eddie..I understand the Xs and Os. I'm wondering where did you hear or read that the coaches are already going to that plan. That is a huge development and I'm just wondering about the genesis of such info.; 9:27 PM
Eddie McCoy said...: Hoopie- I don't disagree one bit. What scares me is the over optomism i'm hearing from some fans. I just believe this year sucess should not be measured in wins and losses. It should be on improvement from week to week with the product we put on the field. Look, I can drink kool-aid with the best of them, but kool-aid is nothing more than a sugar rush that leaves you with a headache. I'm definitely not trying to sound any alarms and the sky is falling, but I think some need to adjust their expectations of what just a successful season should be defined for this year.; 9:28 PM
michael said...: I think we will go undefeated.; 9:29 PM
Unknown said...: I am hoping to see what hoopie is talking about. During the first 3rd of the schedule I would love to see a lot of young guys get experience. Playing young guys in the first half to get them experience and bringing in more vets when the chips are down. Our schedule is our ally. We can do some player development early on.; 9:30 PM
Spongeworthy said...: Can someone answer me this question. What goes on in a 14 year old boys mind when he stops up the toilet, but doesn't fix it or tell anyone about it, leaving his unknowing dad to flush it, watch it overflow before he can stop it, then clean up urine for the next 20 minutes. Yes, he was mine. I'm wondering what I fed him that caused this brain damage.; 9:30 PM
FSJ said...: I expect a season on par with Saban's first at Alabama...Record wise that is. Shula's recruiting was overrated....much like Tubs was the past few years of his tenure if u take into account who actually got into school.; 9:31 PM
michael said...: Hoopie:

http://blog.al.com/auburnbeat/2009/08/chizik_preparing_for_all_optio.html

"Apparently no one is going to be moving to linebacker.

"Not right now," Chizik said. "Those type of candidates aren't on our team. They're somewhere else right now."

His assessment was not rosy.

"Obviously, we can play some nickel and things to help us. Take a linebacker out and play with two instead of three. Other than that, there's really no other options right now." "; 9:31 PM
FSJ said...: Sponge,

I guess he wanted to see FSJ laugh?; 9:32 PM
Eddie McCoy said...: Hoopie- Rivals reported this in their Thursday notebook article titled "Injuries / Depth Impacting Defense" with direct qoutes from Chizik on how he was having to look at other options to combat these problems.; 9:32 PM
Unknown said...: Michael, I predict we go undefeated in August and possibly September.; 9:33 PM
Anonymous said...: Chris Low reports that Hawthorne and McNeal won't be back until around game 4 or 5. That info wasn't released to the local press. Is that info real or memorex?; 9:33 PM
shesaid said...: Michael, I agree with you. Undefeated this season. If I'm wrong, I'll eat my big toe right off my foot.; 9:33 PM
Unknown said...: Eddie, don't you think it is possible that possibly a tailback or two or possibly a TE could move to LB?; 9:34 PM
FSJ said...: Eddie,

I think you have a great point about the defense.

I actually expect Auburn's offense to be decent, if the QB doesn't get them beat.

The defense will struggle...due to depth & lack of talent at some postions.

Much like Saban's first Alabama team.; 9:34 PM
Eddie McCoy said...: Steve- No and Chizik flat out said No yesterday on that very idea. Now he could be lying, but I doubt it.

Look, I've heard a lot of talk about a 2000 / 1993 and even a 2004 season. If that is your expectations, I think you need to re-adjust them. I think this team has enough talent to go to a bowl game, but I think much more than that is gravy and should not be expected.; 9:36 PM
IV said...: I think that our first game will be the biggest game of the season, maybe the biggest at Auburn in quite sometime. The way you start can sometimes dictate how you finish. I don't know how the injury factor will play into all of this, but I do know that we have some talent on this team. How this group of coaches overcome the attitudes that were apparently established last year and how they use the talent we have to be our best will be critical IMHO. I know that the coaches have reputations to fall back on, now is the time to show us their abilities and get it on. WAR EAGLE, God I love AUBURN.; 9:36 PM
Unknown said...: Someone call Eric Smith and inform him I am moving him to linebacker. Come to think of it, tell Dontae Aycock the same is true for him.; 9:37 PM
Eddie McCoy said...: FSJ- How about this for Irony. Auburn's offense looks good and Auburn's defense can't stop anybody. That could be the case this season.; 9:37 PM
Unknown said...: Eddie, that is very possible. Yea, it is sad, but very possible.; 9:38 PM
Spongeworthy said...: We won't need Hawthorne. We will miss McNeal.; 9:39 PM
Jet said...: Eddie ... I see this as a 1981/1999 season with the needle on the positive side at the end.

We're gonna win some, and lose some, but we're gonna like this team.

I believe that.; 9:39 PM
Eddie McCoy said...: IV- Team chemistry will be key to any real successs ths year. They must play great team ball and pick each other up when one is down.; 9:39 PM
Unknown said...: They could also consider moving to a 5-2 defense, which would be unique.; 9:39 PM
Unknown said...: What about putting Hot Carter at linebacker?; 9:41 PM
Eddie McCoy said...: Me too Jet. That is why i'm not trying to say things in Gloom and Doom fashion. This year is all about building a foundation for the future. I've been stating that for quite sometime. I've just noticed that some people lately seem to be loosing that focus and they are only setting themselves up for disappointment.; 9:41 PM
Jet said...: No 5-2 ... this ain't high school football circa 1981.

Gotta be nickel.; 9:42 PM
Eddie McCoy said...: Boy, I wonder if Petey Smith has any regrets at this point? He is grayshirting at bama and he could be playing at Auburn. Sounds like a great decision on his part.; 9:43 PM
Spongeworthy said...: IV. Agree 100%. A loss in the first game, with the injuries we have now, and it could snowball. Just hope our injuries are not that serious and those kids get back on the field at least two weeks before the game.; 9:43 PM
Anonymous said...: Eddie..thanks. Those rivals reports explain the turn to the negative.

I guess Coach Chizik & Co. will get a chance to show us the depth of their coaching ability. It is at least encouraging that they are plannning for it now. It also takes away from normal Fall preparation to have to shift plans. Tuff situation for a new coaching staff.; 9:43 PM
Unknown said...: Look at it this way. If there is one person I believe can mold the players we have into a good defense, it is Chizik.; 9:44 PM
Spongeworthy said...: Eddie. What are the odds Petey is actually paying his own way at UA as a grey shirt. What a farce.; 9:45 PM
IV said...: Eddie, you are correct concerning team chemistry. As an oversight on my part, I didn't think about that element in large part because we are AUBURN. That to me says team chemistry.; 9:45 PM
Unknown said...: Petey made a bonehead choice. He would have definitely gotten playing time this season at Auburn.; 9:46 PM
Eddie McCoy said...: Agreed Hoopie. We've all known that this team cannot afford to have injuries or anything else that affects depth, especially at the LB and OL position. Unfortunately we are having just that. Sorry, that scares me and i'm just trying to bring some realism to what might occur this season. IV is right about La Tech being a big game. Derek Dooley is a good coach and I have a feeling at the time of the Chizik hire, most on here would have rather had him than Chizik. He is no slouch and will give us a run for our money. He took MSU to the woodshed last year, so they are not going to be intimidated by playing us.; 9:47 PM
Tar Heel Tiger said...: Sponge - it wasn't the food. Your wife chose a y instead of an x.; 9:47 PM
Spongeworthy said...: You can put a donkey in the Kentucky Derby and he can try his A__ off and have the best attitude, but he still isn't going to be successful. Gotta have the dudes guys.; 9:47 PM
Unknown said...: Team chemistry has been an issue at Auburn for a lot of years. We have traditionally started out slow and the team would come together after 4 or 5 games. When we have had tough games early, it has been rough.; 9:48 PM
Eddie McCoy said...: IV- LOL at the Auburn and Team Chemistry part. I was part of the 1998 team that absolutely the worse team chemsitry of any team at any level that I have ever been apart of. Players calling other players out, defense and offense blaming each other, players and coaches fighting at halftime...I guess i'm a little cynical when it omes to that.; 9:49 PM
IV said...: I for one say that if Petey Smith didn't want to be at Auburn, I don't want him at Auburn. Only Auburn Tigers should play at J-H as far as I am concerned. Don't worry about the one that got away. Make the ones we got better and let them represent Auburn well.; 9:50 PM
Monica said...: I'm just so ready for an actual game my eyes are about to pop out. Let's just get it on and see what we have already!

Can't we move it up a week or so? Is that really so much to ask?; 9:52 PM
Eddie McCoy said...: I agree IV. I just find laughs in the irony of the situation.; 9:53 PM
Anonymous said...: Eddie..it's no secret that I hate wildly negative speculation. For several years now, I also found myself guarding fans against undue preseason optimism. This year I haven't seen uncontrolled optimism, more like hopeful optimism. You are now carrying the less optimism torch and I'm trying to slow you down....there's some irony in there sommewhere.; 9:53 PM
Unknown said...: Team chemistry basically means every player understanding their role and having confidence that they can count on the other players. This is contrasted by when you have no faith and a lot of well meaning players attempting to cover for each other, which usually spells trouble. When players attempt to be superstars rather than making sure they cover their responsibility, team chemistry is lost.; 9:53 PM
IV said...: Eddie, I yield to you. You have been a lot closer to the football program than I. I never argue with anyone who has been there and knows more than I do.

Keep the hate fresh!!; 9:53 PM
JgobravesHAG said...: Hey peeps; 9:54 PM
Eddie McCoy said...: Mon- YOu could go into a drug induced Michael Jackson Coma and then have it game time. No guarentee you will be waking up tho.; 9:54 PM
Unknown said...: Eddie, an intriguing idea. I believe Cartman did something similar.; 9:55 PM
Monica said...: There will be no beating down on IV in my presence. Don't make me come over there.; 9:55 PM
Anonymous said...: I'm more worried about Derek Dooley and a senior-laden La. tech team than I am about MSU.; 9:55 PM
Spongeworthy said...: I'm not sure AU really wanted Petey. I was hearing late in the recruiting season things along those lines. Obviously, Saben watched him workout over the summer and decided he was the obvious choice for a grey shirt.; 9:57 PM
Unknown said...: I am convinced we will handle Louisiana Tech pretty easily. Chiz has too much at stake here to lose that one.; 9:57 PM
Tar Heel Tiger said...: yippee, i just found out I get Sept 4 off. That means i can get to ATL before MrsTHT's flight arrives that evening. Driving 450 miles after 6 pm and a full workday on Fridays is always a pain. This will be so relaxing. And MrsTHT won't have to sit at Hartsfield for 4 hours. Let's play some football!!!!!!!!!!!!!!; 9:58 PM
Eddie McCoy said...: Hoopie- I promise you that I am very optomistic about our program and where we are headed. Trust me, if you are an Auburn fan you are used to disappiontments, especially if you have expectations of great things. I have read some on here, heard from friends and read things on other sites that suggest that a lot of people think this is a 9-10 win team. I'll slow down my train, but I just urge others to keep expectations in check.; 9:58 PM
IV said...: Mon, I don't believe a sole on this site has beat me down. I respect someone with more knowledge than me. I am just proud to be a very, very small part of this great forum. And I am blessed to have made some new and wonderful Auburn friends such as you. There I go again, IV got a crush on Monica, IV got a crush on Monica.....; 9:59 PM
Spongeworthy said...: Maybe Hoop, just Maybe, our offense will be unstoppable and we will simply out score our opponents, 42-41 or something like that. I recall an ex AU coach doing something like that at Louisville.; 10:00 PM
Eddie McCoy said...: IV and Mon- I promise I'm not beating up on IV. I've declared my affection for IV before. I was litterally laughing out load about his chemistry statement and wishing that others felt the same way about Auburn that any Auburn Woman or Man does. I hope you (IV) didn't take it any other way.; 10:01 PM
Tar Heel Tiger said...: I'm with Hoopie on LaTech concern. Talk about a motivated coach. Dooley interviewed for the AU job. Plus the senior advantage. It's scary.; 10:01 PM
Spongeworthy said...: Back off IV. I am Monica's namesake. I shall take second place to no one.; 10:01 PM
FSJ said...: Was that shesaid I saw above?.....

Welcome back!; 10:01 PM
Monica said...: ;-) IV; 10:01 PM
Monica said...: I have a need for sound effects here on the blog.; 10:03 PM
Eddie McCoy said...: If Auburn was broken up into 3 stocks, Offense, Defense and Special Teams, I would be buying Offense, short-selling Defense and neutral on Special Teams.

I'm excited to see our offense and what it does. I think it can be fairly decent.; 10:03 PM
Tar Heel Tiger said...: you don't want the sound effects I can provide; 10:03 PM
Jet said...: The highs aren't as high, and the lows aren't as low.

Louisiana Tech is a perfect opponent ... tough, but we should beat them 19 times out of 20.

Just breathe, Eddie. We're not going to win 9, but I don't think we're going to lose 8 either.; 10:03 PM
Anonymous said...: Mon...IV is a man...he's 40..er...70. Nevertheless he solid and can handle it.

THT...this means you will be fresh and able to give 110% during the game.

Eddie...point out any folks that expect 9-10 wins and I'll help ya correct that.; 10:03 PM
shesaid said...: Thanks for the shout-out, FSJ. I stand by my decision to predict an undefeated season for the Tigers. Book IT!; 10:04 PM
Tar Heel Tiger said...: Eddie - most folks were buying Offense stock last year at this time. It's probably why the market crashed.; 10:04 PM
Eddie McCoy said...: OH, and if Clifton Robinson is honorable mention for #15, he shouldn't be. He was said player fighting with said un-named HC in waiting coach.; 10:05 PM
Spongeworthy said...: Jet has spoken. Amen..; 10:06 PM
Anonymous said...: IV...don't do it. We've all fallen prey to her. She'll soon leave you for another.; 10:07 PM
IV said...: Eddie, I truly hope that my last post made it clear that I don't feel a beat down from you or anyone else on this blog. I respect you insight and your knowledge. You have been there, I have not. I am just glad that I have somehow earned a little respect from each of you in my short tenure in the midst of greatness. Please keep educating me. I am old, but never to old to learn from others. Also, I love young people. I respect their efforts in trying to better themselves. It helps keep me young as well.; 10:07 PM
Spongeworthy said...: Tar. When the stock falls, don't sell. Hold it til it goes up again. I'm holdin.; 10:07 PM
Eddie McCoy said...: THT- Last Year offense was a dot com stock. This year offense is has substance. There is real offensive coaches that buy into the system this season unlike previous OC's under Tubs.; 10:07 PM

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