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10.23.2008

Hall of Fame adjustments

I like to be transparent when it comes to issues as serious as the HABOTN Hall of Fame.
  • I have added a new subsection, entitled "BANHAMMERED," for those whose visits to the campfire ended on the business end of my mighty weapon.

  • I have added FakeSteveJobs, our resident Alabama realist, to the Notable Newcomers group.

  • I am promoting SteveFC, Monica, Bark and Eddie.

  • I anticipate at least two Heaters moving into the RoF in the coming days. If you'd like to stump on behalf of someone, please contact me via email. I like Yuengling.

Congratulations to all.

104 Comments:

Blogger Scott M. Brannan said...

the 4 newcomers are definitely 'brining the heat'. congrats. the HABOTN has never been hotter.

1:15 PM  
Blogger Taylor said...

my guess is sensible and RK will move up to the coveted RoF. Of course, my own selfish desires wish I were considered to be in that same group.

1:19 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

One day I hope....I can be in the ROF....Ive been down down down in a burning......How is the weather Jay?

1:19 PM  
Blogger James in Auburn said...

If you want to move someone to the HOF Jay G, give my boy DnATL some love.

He may be a tool in real life but he certainly brings his best to the HABOTN.

How's that for a ringing endorsement?

Now D, you owe me some Yuengling.

1:21 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

My vote is for anonymous!!!

1:23 PM  
Blogger Jay G. Tate said...

I'll be appearing on WMSP momentarily.

1:23 PM  
Blogger Taylor said...

also - if i remember correctly, fake steve jobs is a bammer.

he deserves major props. its safe to say he is a respected hottie, even if he is not a part of the auburn family. id like to think all of the hotties to could the same in the reverse situation (a regular barner at a bama site)

all around - this a a solid group of classy fans, which is why HABOTN is so damn HOT.

1:23 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Wow!!! I feel so honored. Looking forward to your analysis of the game tonight.

1:24 PM  
Blogger Monica said...

Oh my lowered - I'm embarrassed by how happy I am.

(Surely, there is a tiara for chick FTH members??)

1:27 PM  
Blogger Cory said...

I am deeply saddened that I'm not on either list. I believe my contributions to the campfire and to the blog are invaluable. This is unfair and unjust!

1:28 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Taylor,

You are correct that I'm a Bama fan. I enjoy message boards with a mix of fans, so I'm used to rational discussion with fans of all peruasions.

That said, Jay has the best sports blog on the net. I wish one of our writers had something similar.

1:29 PM  
Blogger Eddie McCoy said...

AWESOME!!!!!! It's getting hot in here.

1:29 PM  
Blogger James in Auburn said...

Wow! Biggest game of his career.

Ugh bad tide reference there Jay G...

1:30 PM  
Blogger Eddie McCoy said...

I say move up Mr. Sensitive. He always brings the heat.

1:31 PM  
Blogger James in Auburn said...

It would almost be like a Pine Box moment...

1:33 PM  
Blogger WarEagleRK said...

Taylor,

I hope you are correct. It would be a great honor, but I'm sure I'm not worthy.

There needs to be a ceremony for whoever it is.

1:33 PM  
Blogger Eddie McCoy said...

There going to have to fire his....Fire him. Nice save Jay.

1:34 PM  
Blogger Scott M. Brannan said...

JG on the radio right now!

1:34 PM  
Blogger Eddie McCoy said...

Lets just hope we dont run it every play out of the 3-point stance and we don't pass only out of the 2-point stance.

1:36 PM  
Blogger Jay G. Tate said...

Eddie ... almost let that one slip.

Glad I caught myself.

1:36 PM  
Blogger Monica said...

OK, for real, Jay is the best at this. I like that he's not a homer and he gives the best, most succinct info.

1:36 PM  
Blogger Monica said...

fake steve, I didn't even know you were a bammer which means you're a good guy.

1:37 PM  
Blogger Eddie McCoy said...

Here we go again with big words...let me get my dictionary out. Succint- briefly giving the gist of something.

1:38 PM  
Blogger Scott M. Brannan said...

the continued flattery will get you all the way to the ROF. keep it up. :)

1:41 PM  
Blogger Scott M. Brannan said...

alright HOTTIES, i'm headed out the door. gotta get my computer fixed up for the big game tonite. if i'm MIA you'll know why.

in case i can't fix it, WAR DAMN EAGLE TO ALL!

1:42 PM  
Blogger Monica said...

This segment is not making me happy.

1:42 PM  
Blogger Monica said...

Scottie - my mama didn't raise no fool ;-)


WDE!

1:42 PM  
Blogger Jay G. Tate said...

Alright. I'm headed S to Morgantown.

I'll check in ... later.

Keep it real.

1:43 PM  
Blogger Eddie McCoy said...

Safe Travel Jay. Keep bringing the scoop.

1:44 PM  
Blogger Unknown said...

I never dreamed that my panic over the game tonight would get me promoted. I would like to thank all of those that I stepped on on my way up.

1:45 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Congrats to the newcomers and the new Heaters!

1:48 PM  
Blogger Unknown said...

By the way, I like the banhammered addition. That seems to have potential and recognizes the contribution of those that are no longer with us.

1:49 PM  
Blogger scottatl said...

Fake Steve Jobs,

That is why I came to this blog...rational discussion no matter who your team is!!!

1:49 PM  
Blogger Taylor said...

where's phred?...he has been somewhat MIA. ive been reading this blog as long as he has been posting. business mustve picked up

1:50 PM  
Blogger Eddie McCoy said...

So if you are on one of the Heat lists or Newbies list, can you also achieve Banhammer at same time while keeping your status? Jus food for thought.

1:51 PM  
Blogger James in Auburn said...

I would think the banhammer is akin to insta death. Kind of like CTT if we get blown out tonight...

1:52 PM  
Blogger Taylor said...

denny has also been bringing the heat for a while. to be honest im surprised he is not in the RoF

1:53 PM  
Blogger Eddie McCoy said...

Tubs is trying to escape the lowderhammer tonight.

1:53 PM  
Blogger Eddie McCoy said...

The recognition is nice, but "if you ain't first, your last." :)

1:54 PM  
Blogger Eddie McCoy said...

The recognition is nice, but "if you ain't first, your last." :)

1:54 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I feel honored Jay G, the Crown Royal is coming out tonight to celebrate this AND the 24-10 win you promised us.

2:02 PM  
Blogger scott,will not,from tucson said...

my vote is for mr. s.

2:04 PM  
Blogger Unknown said...

I would assume that you are on one of the other lists, if you make the banhammer list, you will be out of the other lists quicker than an Auburn OC ...

2:19 PM  
Blogger Unknown said...

fake, I have no problems with Bama fans being here. It is actually cool to get more perspectives. As long as you never mention the number 12, you should be welcome.

2:32 PM  
Blogger michael said...

I am actually not an Auburn fan either. I have generally been more of a Jan Terri fan most my life.

Now, everyone tell me how level-headed and rational I am, too!!

3:31 PM  
Blogger Unknown said...

michael, you should get to remain just because of your cool avatar.

As for my vote, Mr. Sensible gets it.

3:33 PM  
Blogger ADP said...

Franklin said he "ignored his gut." How is that possible? I've seen his gut. You've seen his gut. It can't be ignored.

3:45 PM  
Blogger Scott M. Brannan said...

nice Phred. someone said earlier they missed you. could it be love? just asking.

i love how JG went from twittering extremely important breaking AU news to just random weather and traffic reports in other cities. so sweet!

3:49 PM  
Blogger nolaman123 said...

YAY FOR DIVERSITY!!!

3:50 PM  
Blogger ADP said...

Awww ... that's sweet - somebody's missing me.

I have been a little aloof lately, but not intentionally. Just lots and lots of work stuff going on. So it goes.

Who all is in Morgantown tonight? freezin' there nu ... no, some of us don't have those ... freezing there butts off?

4:03 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I am touched by all the love in here. Thanks, sincerely, thanks.

Waiting for kickoff...

4:09 PM  
Blogger michael said...

steve - was I in danger of not getting to remain? You guys been talkin bout forcing me out behind my back???? Jay, you are supposed blow the whistle on that sort of thing!

4:10 PM  
Blogger Monica said...

57 degrees in Morgantown. Will be about 40 at the end of the game as we defeat WVU.

4:10 PM  
Blogger Mark said...

Bark?

BARK?

4:11 PM  
Blogger Monica said...

woof

4:12 PM  
Blogger shesaid said...

Jaybar for ROF! He tore it up last night!

4:12 PM  
Blogger Scott M. Brannan said...

i haven't heard any word u were in any trouble Michael. the Jan Terri thing is extremely terrifying, but besides that.... ha.

4:13 PM  
Blogger Scott M. Brannan said...

speaking of terrifying, shesaid...really? i'm down with Hillary, but....that pic scares me.

4:14 PM  
Blogger shesaid said...

I'm sorry for the pic but if "she" "said" it's gotta be her. Name the fiercest lady you know and I'll change my pic. Deal?

4:16 PM  
Blogger Scott M. Brannan said...

uh....ok, you've got me. if i think of one i'll let you know. still scary, though. :)

4:18 PM  
Blogger shesaid said...

Tina Turner? I don't know. I'm officially taking suggestions for a new pic.

4:19 PM  
Blogger michael said...

Jaybar should have his entire own category - Insider!

4:19 PM  
Blogger Monica said...

It's official pregame prep time. Hubby is going on pizza/beer run. Also, I've just had word that one of my neighbors wants a clarification on the whole War Eagle/Tiger things. I think I'll go over and explain it to him tomorrow.

4:20 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Medusa shesaid

4:21 PM  
Blogger Denny Crum said...

You know, one of the knocks on former U of L HFC B. Petrino, besides being a quitter and the football equivilent of Larry Brown, was that when he was at U of L, he stockpiled offensive players and the castoffs and the almost was players went to the defensive side of the ball. In other words, he neglected the defensive side of the ball. So, when Kragthorpe came in, no D. I think Kragthorpe's first year bears that out. Lots of losses where both teams scored over 30 points.

Why bring that up.....well.... I see a strikingly similar parallel to what is happening on the plains, but on opposite sides of the ball. Number 5 defense, number 104 offense. No playmakers on the offense, better athletes on defense....no wideouts that can get open,,,,but we have d-linemen that can run with running backs...........anyone else notice that?? or is it just me.

4:24 PM  
Blogger michael said...

The War Eagle/Tigers issue is simple. A long time ago, during a game against Georgia, a wild Tiger roamed into the stadium and mauled Georgia's coach. The resulting lack of leadership cost them the game. That is why we always yell, "Tigers!" Of course, we have always been the Auburn War Eagles, but Tigers! is out battle cry.

4:25 PM  
Blogger ron mexico said...

predictions...

I wish I could find some optimism going into this game but I just can't seeing our offense getting it together. This one will once again be on the defense.

Pat White can not throw the ball. They also lost slaton and schmidt (I would pay the price of admission just to see Schmidt and Blackmon meet each other at the line of scrimmage). Devine is good in space stopping him will be the key.


Auburn 13

West Virginia 17

4:25 PM  
Blogger ron mexico said...

denny... i think it is because they recruit defensive players better. They can pick those guys out where as they don't know what the hell they are looking for in an offensive player.

4:28 PM  
Blogger ron mexico said...

Is powers out for this game?

4:31 PM  
Blogger Denny Crum said...

Jay,,,

To quote or rather, paraphrase one of my favorite songs from the motion picture "Boogie Nights"

He will rock you and he will roll you.........Feel Feel Feel...Feel my Heat"

You Jay, are the Dirk Diggler of the sports beat world.

4:33 PM  
Blogger Scott M. Brannan said...

Jay G as Dirk Diggler. nice.

4:34 PM  
Blogger Denny Crum said...

Ron,,,

That is my point exactly. How we got Ronnie Brown and Cadillac Williams, and Devon Aromashodu, and Ben Obamanu, and Courtney Taylor...and Jason Campbell....I don't know....

We find alot of diamonds in the rough on the defensive side of the ball, but not so on the offensive side. Some of the bigger O-Line recruits have been busts...some of the walkons have been starters..

4:36 PM  
Blogger Unknown said...

I think powers is playing. Hot Carter seems to be the only one out.

As for talent on offense versus defense, I don't see a lack of talent on offense. I see a lack consistency.

4:37 PM  
Blogger scottatl said...

Steve,

Have you seen our running backs?

4:42 PM  
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4:42 PM  
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4:43 PM  
Blogger Eddie McCoy said...

Shesaid- Angelina Jolie is my pick for your new pick. She is more fierce than Hillary.

4:45 PM  
Blogger Denny Crum said...

Steve,,Talented players are consistent. QED, not enough talent on the offensive side of the ball.

4:46 PM  
Blogger Denny Crum said...

Look at the UofL basketball teams of the 80s. Darrell Griffith averaged 20+ points a game his senior year in 1980. All five starters averaged double digits in 1986.

Consistency is the mark of a talented player. Inconsistency suggests that either the coaches are not playing players correctly...ala Bill Curry playing Tim Couch in the option attack I-bone,,or we have good to average players who get lucky once and awhile. I don't know. I think the RBs bring a lot to the table,,,but where else?

4:49 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ron there are better defensive players because Tubs knows defense. He does not know offense and neither do his asst offensive coaches so they don't know what to look for in an offensive player.

4:54 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Petrino knows nothing about defense. Just like Tubs knows little about offense. I know someone that started on defense at UofL under Petrino. He said in practice the D would spend most of the time not doing much of anything while everything was concentrated on the offense.

Petrino = great coordinator, sorry HC

5:01 PM  
Blogger Denny Crum said...

you all keep making my points for me.

5:01 PM  
Blogger michael said...

The defense is better because they have an identity. Fast undersized players come here that aren't wanted elsewhere, and we also get a few big recruits because we are known for our D.

Offensively? I don't know, we are known for a good running game, but that hasn't been exactly accurate the last couple of years. Why would a big recruit come to AU to play offense? And since they won't, how do we exploit untapped talent on the offensive side like we do on the defensive side? Seemed like the spread was a good idea for awhile. Didn't exactly work out, though.

5:01 PM  
Blogger Scott M. Brannan said...

SHESAID, after careful consideration....and a couple of brews, i say u need to change to PRINCESS LEIA ORGANNA. she was a bad-ass priness with a Jedi Master brother and father and most importantly, she had 'the force' with her. can u do better than that? i don't think so.

5:01 PM  
Blogger Unknown said...

Talent doesn't mean consistency. Coaching does. I like our runningbacks, although none of the are even on the Kenny Irons level. Ben Tate as very good, but not great. Lester and Davis are both injury prone, but have talent.

5:05 PM  
Blogger michael said...

Sarah Jessica Parker is a little scary. Cynthia McKinney, the green party candidate, is also scary. The Wicked Witch from the West is scary. That chick with makeup from the drew carey show is scary. Rosie O'Donnell is hair-raising scary.

5:06 PM  
Blogger Unknown said...

An example of talent versus consistency is Vandy. They aren't close to us in terms of talent. They are pretty darn consistent and win games because they play smart football. Talent isn't our issue, coaching appears to be. The confusion the players expressed after the Vandy game is the best example. Is Ziemba a talented player? Definitely. Has he been consistent? Consistent false starts possibly. This is definitely a coaching issue, although I do not think blaming a specific coach is justified. It has to do with coaching and team chemistry.

5:08 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I disagree somewhat Steve, talent is an issue. ie QB'S, WIDE RECEIVERS, even the Oline to an extent. There isn't a wideout that would be 2nd team at OK.

5:15 PM  
Blogger Monica said...

Shesaid's New Pic

5:16 PM  
Blogger Jay G. Tate said...

I have arrived.

Photographic goodness forthcoming.

5:17 PM  
Blogger Monica said...

eagerly awaiting photo goodness

5:18 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Is that your new OC Monica?

5:19 PM  
Blogger wartiger said...

well here's my 2 canidates for the HABOTN RoF then I'll vote for monica..I know she's new but the fact is her hotness is consitient, she post great comments, and provides links that are sometimes different but always entertaining or enlightening. Then I'll go Mr.Sensible for the second mainly b/c I agree with alot of what he says and he's another consistent hottie. Know this though if I get my attendance up and this new internet thing down then I WILL be voting for myself. So there it is Jay those would be my 2 votes. WAR EAGLE HOTTIES!!!WHOOOO

5:20 PM  
Blogger Scott M. Brannan said...

Monica, that's just wrong gal. now, if you had put up Scary Spice or something i would understand.

5:21 PM  
Blogger Monica said...

That's David Beckham and he can be my anything C. Well, if I weren't deliriously happy and insanely satisfied by my Greg who reads this blog.

5:21 PM  
Blogger Scott M. Brannan said...

good luck Greg.

5:22 PM  
Blogger Monica said...

wow wartiger! I'm not worthy of RoF as I am ever so new, but that was very cool of you. Thanks.


Scottie - come on, we're all good sports about the parade of lovely ladies you guys admire. :-)

5:24 PM  
Blogger Unknown said...

We have a lot of talent at QB if you consider both Caudle and Burns were high profile recruits. Because they don't perform doesn't mean that don't have talent.

A great philosopher once said "You can't fix stupid". Well, in this case the players aren't stupid and they have talent. You can't fix talent.

It is a question of coaching and experience. There were times where Jason Campbell was bashed just as much as Burns, Todd, and Cox have been. All of those guys have talent. You can't instill talent. Campbell didn't suddenly become talented.

Burns may very well be a great QB, but he lacks experience. He is basically a freshman in terms of experience. This is purely a coaching problem. When the players don't know what they are suppose to do, the responsibility lies with the coaches.

5:25 PM  
Blogger Unknown said...

Mr. Sensible got my fist vote. I will give Wartiger my second vote for sucking up to the babes, or maybe that should be a different category?

5:28 PM  
Blogger ron mexico said...

the line has to be drawn... no more links of male underwear models... unacceptable

5:28 PM  
Blogger wartiger said...

the game hasn't started yet so maybe I in too good of a mood just b/c AU is gonna be on soon but I can't explained how jacked I get just before a game. I played in high school and for the past hour I feel like I've been standing in front of a giant piece of paper. JACKED!!!

5:33 PM  
Blogger Unknown said...

wartiger, I understand the feeling. I am having an adrenaline rush at the moment. I am trying to get my mind right for the game and decide my strategy,

5:42 PM  
Blogger Denny Crum said...

Steve.

Not wanting to be contentious, but high profile recruits do not equal talent. Sure more high profile recruits are LIKELY to be talented.

My radio partner Joe B. Hall found out the hard way about recruiting high profile HS all americans. HS star does not automatically mean college star.

Jason Campbell shouldn't be used because he had other variables to deal with, ie multiple offensive systems. However, JC on his worst day is starting to look like he was better than KB on his best day. So far.

5:50 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

First, i'd like to say I'm honored to be on the HoF list, even if it is for being banhammered.

Secondly, that banhammer is a farce. Came down much too quickly. I didn't deserve it. Unjust. Unfair. UnAmerican!

6:43 PM  

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