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12.02.2008

Jay Jacobs speaks ... very briefly.

The athletic director was intercepted as he left the building tonight. He seemed surprised that reporters would spend their time waiting for such an opportunity. I'm surprised that he's surprised.

JACOBS: Tommy and I met this morning. We'll meet again over the next couple of days. I'll let you know how it goes. That's really it.

Are you aiming for resolution this week?

JACOBS: Yes, I'd like to be.

Is it a realistic expectation to think you'll finish it this week?

JACOBS: We'll just have to see.

Are you concerned that the openendedness is hurting the program?

JACOBS: (No verbal response.)

END OF INTERVIEW

307 Comments:

Romberry said...: if CTT is being fired, he wouldn't settle for less than $6 Million.

How about this (purely speculative) scenario: Tuberville wants to leave and there is another school (MSU?) that wants to hire him but the 6 million dollar buyout is in the way. Could they be negotiating a split between what AU will pay and what (if anything) the school that hires him will pay towards the buyout?

Like I said, that's pure speculation based on absolutely nothing other than looking for an explanation of why this is dragging on. But is it plausible?; 9:11 AM
AUBigCat said...: This is like 2007 all over again.; 9:12 AM
AUBigCat said...: Roman if that were the case, why would CTT need to be in those meetings? That would be between the two schools right?; 9:13 AM
Mr. Spock said...: Roman - If Tubby wants to go elswhere HE or someone else3 pays AU - If AU wants him to go somewhere else, then AU pays Tubby. In your scenario there is nothing to negotiate....as both would not pay.; 9:14 AM
Just Win AU said...: JGT, any change in your %? Is it up from the 78.33% from Monday?; 9:16 AM
AUBigCat said...: I dont think CTT wants to go anywhere. Therefore, AU would have to fire him and pay him the $6million. I think I read that he gets that even if he takes another job afterwards.; 9:16 AM
Brent Lane said...: The sensible approach to maintaining loyalty to the school is what Oklahoma did with Stoops: instead of including a huge buyout when he renegotiated his deal after the 2004 season, he was promised a $3 million 'loyalty bonus' if he was still HC at OU on 12/31/08.

His 2008 salary, BTW, is slightly less than Tuberville's. His buyout is reportedly $3 million as well.

I wonder if the Athletic Dept. at AU has experienced the same kind of financial windfall that the Sooner AD attributes to Stoops' success?

http://newsok.com/article/3286561; 9:17 AM
FSJ said...: Cat...

You are correct. Taking another job doesn't reduce the buyout (like it does in Shula's case)...

Whoever negotiated Tuberville's contract from his side is a genius.; 9:19 AM
Romberry said...: Roman if that were the case, why would CTT need to be in those meetings?

Because if Tuberville wants to leave for another job, AU may be in a position to negotiate a lower total buyout with him in order to facilitate the move. That would not be up to the two schools. But again, my scenario is pure speculation based on nothing more than an attempt to make sense of why this is dragging on.

If the only issue was which assistants were to be retained, I think this would have already been settled. If it's based on what Tuberville's plans for future success with the AU football team are, I also think that would have been settled. Lack of a definitive statement at this point leads me to believe that the possibility of Tuberville being gone is approaching probability and the scenario I am speculating about would help explain what is going on.

Put it this way: This is like a married couple haggling over a divorce. Both want out but one (AU) has veto power in the form of a buyout that keeps the other (Tuberville) from landing in the arms of their (another team) lover.; 9:21 AM
Scott M. Brannan said...: whattup FSJ.; 9:22 AM
scottatl said...: FSJ,

Tubs current contract is one of the greatest in the history of sports. Thank Jerry Beasley of Monkeytown.; 9:23 AM
Romberry said...: If Tubby wants to go elswhere HE or someone else3 pays AU - If AU wants him to go somewhere else, then AU pays Tubby. In your scenario there is nothing to negotiate...

You're not thinking this through. If BOTH want out, there is certainly room to negotiate.; 9:23 AM
WarEagleRK said...: "Whoever negotiated Tuberville's contract from his side is a genius."

That was one of the times Tub held Auburn up that he is being paid back for now.; 9:23 AM
Jet said...: I don't think he wants to coach ... I think he wants a check that Auburn is trying like you know what to avoid paying ... Auburn, on the other hand, is taking its time, following its due process to cover tracks.

Best guess: ends today with a dismissal. AU, having covered its tracks on SAC, loses patience on a negotiated buyout.; 9:25 AM
FSJ said...: If Auburn gets rid of Tuberville, they better come with a top notch hire, IMO.; 9:27 AM
Jet said...: Question, and I may have posed this before:

Is it worth a reduced buyout to have a legacy with the program? Photo in the stadium ... name on a building ... welcoming arms from time to time ... other opportunities for love and payment.

The opposite would be getting the full check, and getting your name and reputation pounded at every turn by people who can do it and never let you know it happened.; 9:28 AM
Unknown said...: Roman, if both Auburn and Tuberville want him bone, there is no buyout.; 9:28 AM
Denny Crum said...: sounds like a lot of hurry up and wait today; 9:28 AM
FSJ said...: Jet:

I think it would be to a Mike Dubose/Pat Sullivan guy (someone who played there).

People like Saban and Tuberville are hired guns, IMO.; 9:29 AM
FSJ said...: What about Derek Dooley?

His daddy is an alum...; 9:30 AM
Unknown said...: Jet Jetarskym, Auburn would do nothing to make Tuberville look bad. It would hurt the reputation of the school and any future coaching hires.; 9:30 AM
AUBigCat said...: I dont think CTT wants out. He has too much invested in this program and this community. If that were the case, he would have left last year. I also think he worked too hard last year to get this buyout for him to renegotiate it this year. He is either fired and $6mil richer or he's coaching next year.; 9:30 AM
Unknown said...: I do believe we will see Tuberville back in 2009 with an altered contract. The only way that won't happen is if Tuberville won't agree to the changes and insists he wants his $6 Million. In that case, he is gone.; 9:31 AM
krewe said...: If they were discussing changing a contract in any way shouldn’t Jere Beasley be there? If his contract attorney is not there then it would be reasonable to assume that the contract is not being discussed...or it may be like buying a car and they are sliding a piece of paper back and forth with different amounts written on it.; 9:31 AM
Unknown said...: AUBigCat, the buyout has been in place sense 2004. Last season they just extended his contract a couple of years.; 9:32 AM
Unknown said...: krewe, the lawyer wouldn't be there until something is being put in writing. That is where it comes to the point where they have tentatively agreed. Tentatively means the lawyers are drawing things up.; 9:34 AM
AUBigCat said...: I would agree that if this were about contracts, Mr. Beasley would be there no doubt.; 9:34 AM
scottatl said...: FSJ,

The only thing Auburn's next hire has to do is win. Same with any hire. So we really wont know if they are top notch until this time next year assuming there is a change.

I have heard to many comments already about Lane Kiffin 'winning the press conference'....what a joke.; 9:34 AM
FSJ said...: Steve from Columbia....

I think there were some modifications to the buyout in the sense that previously it dropped by a million each year...

I don't think that is the case in the beginning of the current contract, but I'm only going on memory here.; 9:34 AM
FSJ said...: scott,

Kiffin is Mike Shula part 2, IMO.

I just don't see him being able to go head to head with Meyer, Richt, Spurrier, & Saban.; 9:35 AM
AUBigCat said...: Steve was the buyout always structured like it is $3 mil 30 days after and the other in 1 year?; 9:35 AM
Seanzie said...: Guys, Beaseley doesn't have to be in the room during a discussion like this, a little thing called conference call and a fax machine can be used all day in a situation like this to avoid attention.; 9:35 AM
AUBigCat said...: Yea come to think of that FSJ it was like a decending amount if I recall.; 9:37 AM
Unknown said...: AUBigCat, I believe there was some changes in the buyout where the number goes down after next season, but I am not certain. I believe after next season the buyout drops by one million per year.

I agree that this sounds like contract negotiations. If they are arguing the current contract, the lawyer would be there. If they are discussing a new contract, the lawyer wouldn't get involved until there was a tentative agreement.; 9:38 AM
AUBigCat said...: Jay you needs to stake out Beasley's office to see what you can find. Just dont catch a case down there.; 9:38 AM
KJtiger said...: I think next year it goes to 5 mil and then 1 mil a year to the end with it bottoming out at I think 3 mil. I could be wrong on the final amount but I do know it goes to 5 mil next year.; 9:39 AM
AUBigCat said...: It just seems that CTT worked to hard lst year to get the upper hand with this contract buyout to just give it away now. This season is the very reason he negotiated it the way it is, I would think.; 9:40 AM
Unknown said...: They might conference in a lawyer if they are discussing the current contract, assuming there is something to argue.

If they are discussing a potential new contract, they would likely first come up with something that is agreeable to both and then have the lawyers draw up a contract, which will be followed by more arguing.

In terms of contracts, wording is extremely important. In terms of just coming up with a conceptual, this is what we both agree to, it isn't as much so.; 9:41 AM
scottatl said...: FSJ,

Do you ever think Shula got a bum deal....i mean he took on the job with the brunt of sanctions when they had trouble finding anyone who wanted to come after CDF left them high and dry. Obviously he put out a pretty good team in 05 and was starting to get good players in. You guys obviously made an upgrade but he sure does get alot of grief which is odd condsidering he is a former palyer of UA.; 9:42 AM
Unknown said...: AUBigCat, the buyout is something that was intended to be beneficial to both Auburn and Tuberville by providing stability to the football program. If we had went undefeated this year, the buyout would benefit Auburn. It works in both directions.; 9:43 AM
Eddie McCoy said...: Wow...where did all these Tubs to Mississippi State rumors come from? I love the internet. It brings out the best in all.; 9:43 AM
FSJ said...: Shula was fired because he was stubborn....

He wouldn't give up playcalling.
He wouldn't hire a real offensive coordinator
He wouldn't fire his OL coach.

They recruited NO defensive linemen of any caliber during his tenure.

Good guy...Good QB coach. Not a head coach.

He should thank Alabama. Alabama plucked him from obscurity in the NFL as a position coach and made him a millionaire.

JMO of course.; 9:44 AM
Unknown said...: scottatl, I think Shula did get a raw deal to some extent, but he might have saved his job by replacing Dave Rader. The situation is actually very similar to Auburn. Shula had a great DC, but an OC that didn't look so hot.; 9:44 AM
AUBigCat said...: Yea I agree Steve but I believe CTT wanted to be here anyway. His issue was making it hard for the 'powers that be' to pull another 03 on him.; 9:45 AM
Unknown said...: eddie, there is not way Tuberville would go to MSU. He would end up getting pounded by Ole Miss with Houston Nutt, Arkansas, and Auburn every season.; 9:46 AM
WarEagleRK said...: Eddie,

Those rumors came from people thinking Tub is gone and would try to stay somewhere close to home.

I'm sure it came from somebody just making a guess as to where he would turn up and people started running with it.

You gotta love the internet.; 9:47 AM
Anonymous said...: Well it was brought up on 1st and 10 on ESPN2. Nothing new other than it was a topic.

Decision by end of week and if he stays wholesale changes. Blib blab.; 9:47 AM
Unknown said...: Well, I am off to work. I haven't been in the office for a month or so. Might as well see what the place looks like. Have a great time waiting. I do believe CTT will return with a renegotiated contract.; 9:47 AM
KJtiger said...: I think Shula was probally already a millionaire. He was plucked from the obscurity and place right back there when done. I agree with what you said about shula. He was always a place holder for the next coach. He was a get us through this "guy".; 9:49 AM
scottatl said...: FSJ,

Points taken, on the other side it seem the fans would have some appreciation for getting them through a tough time. It will probably happen in 5 to 10 years.; 9:52 AM
Roland said...: Jere Beasley the senior member of the firm Beasley, Allen, Crow, Methvin, Portis & Miles, P.C., has practiced law as an advocate for victims of wrongdoing since 1962. During his career, he has tried hundreds of cases. Jere’s numerous courtroom victories include landmark cases that have made a positive impact upon our society. One such case prompted a major automobile manufacturer to recall its unsafe vehicles, while another made a major tractor manufacturer put rollover protection on all of its tractors. Still another prompted a major insurance company to seek out thousands of its policyholders who had been wronged in an effort to correct their policies.

The driving force behind Jere’s success has been his intense commitment to his clients. Jere is, without a doubt, one of the leading trial lawyers in the entire country and a leading advocate for those who have been wronged. He has appeared as a lecturer throughout the country at numerous legal seminars and other events.

He has been profiled in Time Magazine, Business Week, and many other noted publications. Jere has tried over 30 cases that have resulted in verdicts greater than one million dollars, including 15 verdicts that exceeded ten million dollars. He is also featured in the 2003-2004 edition of The Best Lawyers in America, a traditional database of over 16,000 lawyers in 30 specialties, all of whom have been chosen as "the best" by their fellow attorneys.

Jere was co-lead counsel in the record $11.9 billion punitive damages award against ExxonMobil Corp. on behalf of the state of Alabama. The claims by the State of Alabama were based on breach of contract and fraud. Beginning in 1993, Exxon had cheated the State by intentionally underpaying royalties on natural gas from the Mobile Bay field. The future anticipated gain to Exxon, as a direct result of their fraudulent conduct, would have been almost one billion dollars.

Jere's areas of practice include litigation in Products Liability, Insurance Fraud, Business, Nursing Home, Personal Injury. In addition to his trial practice, Jere is actively involved in many civic endeavors, such as the American Cancer Society, American Heart Association, Lions Club and the Fellowship of Christian Athletes. Jere currently serves on the Board of Directors for the Montgomery Area Chamber of Commerce and the Alabama Shakespeare Festival. In 2006, Jere was named "Citizen of the Year" by the March of Dimes. He is also an active member of the Trial Lawyers for Public Justice.

Jere is married to the former Sara Baker of Adamsville, Alabama. They have three children and six grandchildren - all girls. Jere is an avid follower of Auburn University sports and Boston Red Sox baseball. He attends church at St. James United Methodist; 9:52 AM
Roland said...: Jere Beasley the senior member of the firm Beasley, Allen, Crow, Methvin, Portis & Miles, P.C., has practiced law as an advocate for victims of wrongdoing since 1962. During his career, he has tried hundreds of cases. Jere’s numerous courtroom victories include landmark cases that have made a positive impact upon our society. One such case prompted a major automobile manufacturer to recall its unsafe vehicles, while another made a major tractor manufacturer put rollover protection on all of its tractors. Still another prompted a major insurance company to seek out thousands of its policyholders who had been wronged in an effort to correct their policies.

The driving force behind Jere’s success has been his intense commitment to his clients. Jere is, without a doubt, one of the leading trial lawyers in the entire country and a leading advocate for those who have been wronged. He has appeared as a lecturer throughout the country at numerous legal seminars and other events.

He has been profiled in Time Magazine, Business Week, and many other noted publications. Jere has tried over 30 cases that have resulted in verdicts greater than one million dollars, including 15 verdicts that exceeded ten million dollars. He is also featured in the 2003-2004 edition of The Best Lawyers in America, a traditional database of over 16,000 lawyers in 30 specialties, all of whom have been chosen as "the best" by their fellow attorneys.

Jere was co-lead counsel in the record $11.9 billion punitive damages award against ExxonMobil Corp. on behalf of the state of Alabama. The claims by the State of Alabama were based on breach of contract and fraud. Beginning in 1993, Exxon had cheated the State by intentionally underpaying royalties on natural gas from the Mobile Bay field. The future anticipated gain to Exxon, as a direct result of their fraudulent conduct, would have been almost one billion dollars.

Jere's areas of practice include litigation in Products Liability, Insurance Fraud, Business, Nursing Home, Personal Injury. In addition to his trial practice, Jere is actively involved in many civic endeavors, such as the American Cancer Society, American Heart Association, Lions Club and the Fellowship of Christian Athletes. Jere currently serves on the Board of Directors for the Montgomery Area Chamber of Commerce and the Alabama Shakespeare Festival. In 2006, Jere was named "Citizen of the Year" by the March of Dimes. He is also an active member of the Trial Lawyers for Public Justice.

Jere is married to the former Sara Baker of Adamsville, Alabama. They have three children and six grandchildren - all girls. Jere is an avid follower of Auburn University sports and Boston Red Sox baseball. He attends church at St. James United Methodist; 9:52 AM
James in Auburn said...: When you do a news search under Google for CTT, the first result is Jay's article for today's paper - nice.

Way to rule the Google search results Jay G!; 9:53 AM
michael said...: Maybe we could get Shula if we fire Tubs, then fire him in a few years and then hire Saban.; 9:56 AM
WarEagleRK said...: Michael,

I think we'd have to hire Dubose, Franchione & Price first. Then we could get Shula and Saban.

It's like unlocking hidden characters in a video game.; 9:58 AM
McLovin said...: My opinion is the only reason Tubs is still here is because of the buyout. I think Tubs would have gladly walked away last year if this buyout wasn't holding him back. The BOT doesn't get along with him and ever since he has been here there has been turmoil. I commend Tubs on the job he has done at Auburn, but I just don't see how a person could be around an Adminstration that doesn't give you true support. I know money may make you overcome things like this but it has to take its toll on you. Would it not be in the best interest for Tubs and University to allow him to seek out other employment without him having to payback AU? Sounds like the perfect divorce to me.; 9:58 AM
Jet said...: Steve, buddy, I believe there are some folks who would grind Tubs into ear dust given the chance.; 10:02 AM
Roland said...: What exactly is ear dust?; 10:04 AM
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Eddie McCoy said...: All right, one the insiders seems to suggest that Petrino is the coach that Auburn wants right now and that Mike Leach is the backup. This poster is usually pretty dead on. Thought I would pass it along here. It looks like Tubs is done, but everything is just rumor stage at this point.; 10:04 AM
Roland said...: If Petrino comes do we also get Mallet as QB?; 10:06 AM
Jet said...: Ear dust (noun) -- the microscopic remnants of a person with large ears who makes powerful people very angry.; 10:06 AM
WarEagleRK said...: If Mallett has already transfered to Arkansas, then no.; 10:07 AM
Seanzie said...: If Petrino is the new coach at Auburn, I can promise I won't watch a game next season.; 10:08 AM
WarEagleRK said...: I just don't know with Petrino. He didn't leave much at Louisville after he left other than Brohm.; 10:08 AM
Anonymous said...: We keep taking Petrino off the list because of the shadiness factor. Do we need to remove that factor?; 10:09 AM
McLovin said...: I thought the Petrino contract prevents him from going to a Western Division team.; 10:09 AM
Eddie McCoy said...: I wish somebody would just tell me how Petrino could get out of his contract?

Egos in this state would be unmatched if Petrino was to come.; 10:10 AM
Jet said...: The thing about Petrino, and I don't think he's coming, is that he took chicken scratch in Fayetteville and made a pretty tasty chicken salad this year.

The guy can coach. And he's driven.; 10:10 AM
James in Auburn said...: I don't think Petrino has ever seen a contract he couldn't get out of. That would include any contract given to him by AU (if it comes to that).

Petrino as a candidate = FAIL.; 10:10 AM
Eddie McCoy said...: AU1N04- Shadiness left the building when Saban entered the state.; 10:11 AM
WarEagleRK said...: You think Petrino's ego is bigger than Tubs?

I think it's pretty close.; 10:11 AM
autiger said...: It's 10:08 on day 3? How do you not have a post yet? BUSH LEAGUE BAMER!; 10:11 AM
Quitstina said...: Good gracious, I was purposly not checking in until later hoping something would be up. Nothing new but Tubs to MSU (???) and Jere's bio.; 10:11 AM
Just Win AU said...: Petrino has some sort of non compete clause, he can not leave Arky for another SEC West team. I will not send a dime to Auburn if they hire Petrino.; 10:11 AM
Anonymous said...: All I know, if Tubs is let go, the hire needs to be a coup.; 10:11 AM
Eddie McCoy said...: I agree with Jet...He can definitely coach, but at what costs?; 10:11 AM
AUBigCat said...: McLovin if CTT wanted out last year he would have been gone. The buyout was not what it is now and less expensive to get out of.

Eddie I would think that Petrino leaving ARK high and dry after doing the same to the Falcons would make him and AU look like complete fools and do more to hurt this program than a 5-7 season ever could. Mike Leach seems weird. If CTT's biggest issue with the board is that he is not Pat Dye, Leach would not stand a chance.; 10:12 AM
scottatl said...: it we got petrino or leach I would start following Army or Navy; 10:13 AM
Jet said...: Every job Petrino has sought has been better than the one he currently had, save Arkansas ... and I'm sorry ... he owed Tommy zero, zilch, nada in 2003.

As someone said earlier, they are hired guns.

We need to hire the biggest gun we can hire.

My sense is that you combine the PR of 2003, just one year at Fayetteville, and the contract clause, and it's just too much of a hill climb.

But if they can climb it, I say knock yourselves out.; 10:13 AM
Anonymous said...: Follow Navy, they are much better. Wait, I follow Navy, what do you mean by that?; 10:14 AM
scottatl said...: This comment has been removed by the author.; 10:14 AM
Jet said...: Hey, I love Navy, too, but that ain't big-time college football.; 10:15 AM
Seanzie said...: Jay, do you have any updates as far as the schedule for the meetings and such today? Any movement at all?; 10:17 AM
Anonymous said...: Well that I understand. Jay is very quiet today.; 10:17 AM
Eddie McCoy said...: Petrino- Say what you want, but he could coach. NOBODY but bama fans were thrilled with the Saban hire. National guys were bashing him, especially Cowherd. But look at it now, it is working fine and everyone loves Saban again nationaly.; 10:18 AM
WarEagleRK said...: Day 3 of HABOTN's coverage "Auburn held hostage...again" we have our correspondant Jay G. Tate live on the scene.; 10:18 AM
Quitstina said...: Monica loves Saban but he is still the devil to me. Petrino would be right up there. Petrino to AU just seems very far fetched.; 10:19 AM
Anonymous said...: Kristina - which probably would make it perfect, which is odd to say.; 10:20 AM
WarEagleRK said...: According to Goldberg on al.com, he doesn't expect anything to be announced today either.; 10:21 AM
Seanzie said...: I'm thinking the Jays should invite Jay G. to be their third member. They can start calling themselves the "The Three Jays" "The Jay Trio" or "Jay G and the Jays." He would be privy to all inside discussions which would prompty be relayed to the HABOTN, plus I also hear Jay plays a mean folk guitar.; 10:21 AM
Quitstina said...: AU1, you are absoltely right.; 10:22 AM
Eddie McCoy said...: RK- Tuberville was in the office today and has left. Gran and Rhoads are there huddled up in their offices with the doors shut. Jay Jacobs is in his office with the doors shut. Things don't look good for Tubs right now. They are now not sure if the assistant coaches are still out recruiting. I feel pretty sure we are going to hear something today.; 10:24 AM
WarEagleRK said...: Well whatever it is, let's get it over with... that being said it'll probably happen in the next hour as I'm about to head out for lunch.; 10:25 AM
Just Win AU said...: Eddie, I think they are waiting to get that "yes" from the new coach before they make any kind of announcement. I hope we know something today.; 10:25 AM
Seanzie said...: RK make sure you've got your twitter on.; 10:25 AM
Eddie McCoy said...: By the way, The Dan Patrick show just reported that all assistants have been told they were fired. That is weird that his show would report it.

Auburn has no choice but to make a statement.; 10:26 AM
Seanzie said...: Wow Eddie, that news from Dan Patrick is a lot like your avatar in nature.; 10:27 AM
scottatl said...: The comment about Navy shows my love for a running team which is what Auburn should be....not what Petrino or esp Leach would bring.; 10:28 AM
Jet said...: "Wins cover sins," an oft-quoted football saying, frequently used by my favorite ex-Tiger Quentin Riggins.; 10:29 AM
scottatl said...: This is almost as bad as last year. Good Grief; 10:31 AM
Jim in Scranton said...: Leach would be great. We have a QB that already knows his system.

Uh, never mind. That didn't work out so well last time.; 10:33 AM
Seanzie said...: Tick, Tock, Tick, Tock...the coffee machine at the office is getting itself put through the ringer because of this waiting.; 10:33 AM
Anonymous said...: I just heard that Dan Patrick comment about the assistants.; 10:35 AM
michael said...: New thread is up; 10:37 AM
James in Auburn said...: Here's a link to the Dan Patrick "sccop":

Dan Patrick

Third bullet point down the page...; 10:37 AM
FSJ said...: Sorry...

Had to step out for a minute...

To respond to a few posts above...

If Shula was a millionaire pre Alabama, it was because of his Daddy. He was a poor OC with Tampa before $1M salaries for OC's were the rage.

I respect, Mike Shula. I like Mike Shula. I certainly wanted him to be wildly successful. However, he wasn't and I'm perfectly happy with who we have.; 11:05 AM