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12.01.2008

Update from the Plains

According to a statement released by Auburn spokesperson Kirk Sampson on Monday night, Tuberville met with school officials on Monday.

Here is the statement:

President Gogue, Jay Jacobs and Coach Tuberville did meet Monday to have their annual end of the season meeting. Further conversations between Jay Jacobs and Coach Tuberville will take place in the following days to discuss Coach Tuberville’s plan to make improvements for the program moving forward under his leadership.

327 Comments:

scottatl said...: Jay Jacobs talking football improvement? Is that an Oxymoron, irony or just plain ridiculous?; 7:18 PM
scottatl said...: I just googled 'Auburn New Coach' and it spit out this beauty from the New York Times

Pat Dye Named Auburn's Coach
UPI
Published: January 4, 1981
Pat Dye, who resigned as the Wyoming football coach last month, was named Auburn's coach today. He received a four-year contract.

Dye, 40 years old, a star lineman at Georgia and a former assistant to Paul (Bear) Bryant at Alabama, succeeded Doug Barfield, who resigned on Dec. 1 after a 5-6 season. The selection of Dye came one month after Coach Vince Dooley of Georgia had spurned a reported $225,000-a-year offer to return to his alma mater as coach and athletic director.

''I am extremely happy to be back in Alabama - Auburn, Ala., that is,'' Dye said. ''I'm glad to be back in an area where football means so much to the people. People in Wyoming are talking about rodeoing in July, while people in Alabama are talking about the Alabama-Auburn game.''

Dye's contract includes a clause that prohibits him from moving from Auburn to coach at Georgia or Alabama before the four years of the contract expire.; 7:24 PM
scott,will not,from tucson said...: wde scottatl. missed the flames.; 7:33 PM
scott,will not,from tucson said...: i still say he stays.; 7:34 PM
Anonymous said...: Why Tuscon?; 7:52 PM
Anonymous said...: If Rhodes leaves for Utah State, how about Chavis from UT?; 7:53 PM
Secondaid said...: Also from the Auburn press office: We have always been at war with Oceania.; 7:54 PM
Jay G. Tate said...: Shhhh. Don't tell anyone!; 7:57 PM
Denny Crum said...: this is going to be an eventful week on the plains. Trouble is, it will be hush hush; 7:57 PM
coosa said...: The camp fire didn't just die out, somebody did throw a bucket of water on it.; 7:59 PM
Anonymous said...: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZiWmbJGTPo

Hillarious-watch when you get a chance. "Wastin' away again in Tommy Tuberville"; 7:59 PM
coosa said...: So did I read that Jay says now that its 78% tubs is gone? What do the rest of you say?

Knowing nothing more than what I've read here and other places, I'd say its higher than that. If they were gonna keep him, they wouldn't hurt the program by letting him hang like this. Or they shouldn't.; 8:01 PM
wtc said...: Not sure what to think now. Army has a word for this and it starts with cluster.; 8:01 PM
wtc said...: Not sure why the % went up today. I thought Sunday it was only 25%. Must be the way everyone is reading the statement compounded with no annoucement from Gogue. Is that your take Jay?; 8:03 PM
Just Win AU said...: Coosa, I think he is gone.; 8:05 PM
Anonymous said...: What am I missing here how can he stay?

Bad publicity?..Not so much... Tennessee just fired one of the longest tenured and winning-est current sec coaches. If the national media has a story it's Miss. St. who just fired the first and only black head coach in the sec..it would be a blip on the radar.

Board Member Support?...Not so much...he got the best of the most powerful board member and rubbed it in his face by taking vengeance on his puppets.

Fan Support?...Not so much...this season has taken care of that.

Too much money..Bama has made back their investment just with the sale of car flags..bandwagon riders have deep pockets when times are good (so do actual supporters).

I'm not saying I want him fired I am just saying if thats what THEY are going to do then now is the time.; 8:11 PM
barkley for governor said...: Quentin Groves is playing good tonight.; 8:14 PM
Jay G. Tate said...: wootang ... them meeting with Tuberville and not making a decision makes me think they're considering all their options.

Hence the bump to 78.33%; 8:15 PM
Unknown said...: This is totally unrelated, but a nice shout out on MNF to Groves, who has made a couple of nice plays in a row. MT talking about how Groves saw the "wildcat" formation last year while at Auburn.

One of the few "play makers" AU has had post 2004.; 8:16 PM
Just Win AU said...: I love Q. I'm glad he's doing well in the NFL; 8:16 PM
wtc said...: That's what I thought Jay. Thanks; 8:19 PM
Jay G. Tate said...: I'm headed home. Piece.; 8:21 PM
wartiger said...: put me on the record now that I want CTT to get another year..STOP THIS STUFF!!; 8:22 PM
chuck217 said...: Later JG!; 8:25 PM
wartiger said...: aight...monica..sensible..I am looking to you two to help me out here..; 8:32 PM
AUBigCat said...: How much worse can this season get or dare I ask?; 8:34 PM
Monica said...: what's up Wartiger?; 8:40 PM
Aubie said...: Looks like JJ and JG are checking out the market before they make a final decision.; 8:44 PM
wartiger said...: JHAG!!!
I want CTT to stay at AU but that was FRICKIN GREAT dude..lol lol GREAT..HOTTIES CHECK OUT JHAGS YOU TUBE LINK...LOL; 8:44 PM
FSJ said...: I go to feed the dogs and the chat ends. WTH?; 8:45 PM
Jet said...: Ladies and Gentleman, this is Captain Jet from the flight deck. We're cruising at 35,000 feet in search of our new coach!; 8:45 PM
Eddie McCoy said...: agreed Aubie. They are looking to see who they can get before making their move.; 8:46 PM
wartiger said...: CTT to stay at AU mon? your thoughts?; 8:46 PM
Anonymous said...: WarTiger, what help you need?; 8:47 PM
Monica said...: Faker - you said you were leaving- you didn't say you were coming back

Wartiger - I only know what I want to happen. It's looking a little more like that may happen, but who knows. Crazy times.; 8:49 PM
wartiger said...: I am hoping that you may feel the same way I do about CTT getting another year instead of this react before cosindering the consequences attitude takes hold of us all??!; 8:49 PM
Aubie said...: Sounds kind of like the conversation that Mal had with Shula. "What's your plan to turn this around?"
Shula "blah blah blah"
"I don't like it - you're fired!"
"Frieda, get me Jimmy Sexton... or Jim Swarthout *"
*random Fletch reference; 8:50 PM
Monica said...: nope - don't feel the same way you do; 8:50 PM
wartiger said...: but really you gotta check out that jhags youtube link..priceless..I wouldn't mention it twice if it wasn't..; 8:51 PM
Anonymous said...: Jay,
Hold campfire at 10:00

-George; 8:52 PM
Anonymous said...: WarTiger, I appreciate what Tubs has done in terms of a clean program and such, but besides 2004-2006, the record shows what we are in store for if he stays. We haven't recruited the talent that led to 2004-2006 and I don't see it coming. We were many things this season, and outcoached was one of the biggest ones. That falls on him.

He may get more time, but I think it's time for a change.; 8:53 PM
wartiger said...: well Monica I would love to see what your alternatives are? I mean is now the time..really!!!??; 8:53 PM
CovingtonTigerFan said...: That's a pretty vague statement. If they intended for him to stay and therefore wanted to stop the wild speculation, that wasn't exactly the way to do it.; 8:53 PM
wartiger said...: I stand alone..sigh..I called you two out b/c of my respect of your opinion and we don't agree...go figure..maybe I'm wrong..for now I say ONE MORE YEAR!!; 8:56 PM
WarEagleRK said...: I'm guessing the PTB are waiting on phone calls from agents to see what the interest level is and if it's high, then Tub will be gone.; 8:57 PM
Anonymous said...: Thanks jhag, that video "ROCKS"!; 8:58 PM
Monica said...: Thank you for the respect, Wartiger. Sorry to let you down. There are lots of folks here who agree with you. :-); 8:58 PM
Eddie McCoy said...: I saw Jack Del Rio's named mentioned by someone. That would be very intriguing.; 8:59 PM
Anonymous said...: Thanks for the props, man. I don't hate Tubs. I just think we've gone as far as we are gonna go with him at the helm.; 8:59 PM
wartiger said...: fewer and fewer Monica..fewer and fewer; 9:00 PM
KJtiger said...: Maybe, and stay with me here, but maybe they really wanted to hear his plan. Just like congress and the auto bailout. Maybe they want to know that CTT has actually put some thought into this and he is not just free balling it. Maybe they would like to know he has what it takes to turn it around before they give him the keys to the fieldhouse.; 9:01 PM
wartiger said...: on a lighter note I got the hot water heater fixed tonight..a hammer and a chisel later..yea for me!!; 9:02 PM
Anonymous said...: Boys. Monica. The sarcasm is beautiful. I use it as a method of communicating all the time. But let me say something.

I had a smile on my face about 30 minutes after 36-0, no 72-0, finished up. Right then and there I knew something wonderful had just happened.

#1 it was over. The season. The streak. The never ending guessing game of how these two programs "actually" match up.

Most importantly complacency had run its course. It's done. Dramatically finished. Smell ya later.

What's left is shame, embarassment, anger, and gashed and knarled pride. And that makes me, not hopeful, but assured. Assured that the end of fat, rich and happy is over.

I've been into this thing for years. Been attending AU games since '78. I've seen a lot of things happen in this rivalry as have many of you all. And I know, based on this "top this, top that" rivalry, that things are about to get extremely interesting.

If you're a fan, if you're a writer, you just found yourself at the beginning phase of a rekindled flame. An opportunity has presented itself.

These two programs occasionally wilt. But they won't die. And they won't let the other one enjoy the limelight regardless of the price.

Here's to hoping nobody lands in NCAA jail in the near future.

Cheers.; 9:06 PM
Quitstina said...: KJ, that sounds good in theory, but I have a feeling this is just a waiting game.; 9:07 PM
Eddie McCoy said...: Great post Crudup, agreed.; 9:07 PM
FSJ said...: Kristina...

Thought you were done for the evening...

Ughhh here we go again.; 9:08 PM
wartiger said...: nice crudup..I'm not as eloquent as you..so just nice man; 9:09 PM
Quitstina said...: I got demoted to the kids' PC faker. Did you "feed your dogs?"; 9:10 PM
FSJ said...: Well Crudup,

If a flame is to be lit it needs to be lit on the recruiting side. Saban is royally outworking Tuberville and his staff.; 9:10 PM
FSJ said...: Kristina:

Dogs.....well fed.... :=); 9:10 PM
Monica said...: Beautiful post, Crudup! Here, here!; 9:11 PM
Anonymous said...: I don't see why he deserves another year. People say well look what he did when he got a second chance after jetgate, but he should have been playing for a N.C. that year along with the next. He had super talent but his coaching hire or lack thereof was his downfall now he has done the exact same thing again. I can take someone making mistakes as long as its not the same big one over and over. Unfortunately for him the time is perfect now to make a change with the least damage to the program.; 9:11 PM
Quitstina said...: I don't really care about Tubs' record anymore. There is such a division right now because of him that just can't be good for Auburn.; 9:13 PM
barkley for governor said...: Look at the emotion on Nick Saban's face in that picture.

If you don't think he wants it bad this year, you're crazy.; 9:13 PM
Mark said...: I think they did like Congress did to the Auto execs. Come back with a plan next time and let us know what you want to do.

The ironic thing is they could just say, okay, it is your baby. We are not paying the buyout and we are already paying to offensive coordinators. Not only do you need to coach, you need to come up with the money to pay another one.

On top of that, no more renewals. we will be happy to find a coach in waiting so we can quit with the auto-renewal crap, but this is the last contract you will get here.; 9:14 PM
FSJ said...: I agree Barkley...

Saban wanted to win badly...; 9:15 PM
Anonymous said...: Faker, that's exactly it. That's who makes the plays- th players. An identity, discipline, and a system sets them up.

It's popular to say Auburn has been successful with developing and promoting the 3 stars. But, in reality, there are not as many as the myths suggest. The real stuff will begin (again) now.; 9:15 PM
wartiger said...: I'm out Hotties..on a final note
Thanks to Scottie for the sweet shirt!!
Monica and Sensible you are still first two on my "wanna know what you think" list.
and last but not least
ONE MORE YEAR!!!
WAR EAGLE; 9:16 PM
ron mexico said...: I want tubs to stay, rework his staff and start going out and getting some highly reguarded skilled players on offense... mainly because i don't trust the people in charge of hiring coaches, and i know we have a good coach right now.

If they decide to get rid of tuberville, they better get someone just as good or better. I don't see that many possible names out there that match that criteria.

In other words if they give tuberville the boot, they had better have butch davis' name on a dotted line somewhere. Anything else is a huge gamble.; 9:17 PM
Eddie McCoy said...: Kristina- I think you hit the nail on the head. The Auburn nation is divided and it will continue to be divided if Tubs stays. Tubs will never have this fanbase clearly behind him, no matter how well he does. If you change coaches, then the people taht supported Tubs will get behind the new coach more so than the people that didn't support Tubs. We are divided right now, and to me, Tubs has done it to himself.; 9:17 PM
FSJ said...: I'm not sure what you are getting at Crudup?

Do you suddenly think that Tuberville if he remains will start recruiting like Saban?

I don't even if he remains.; 9:17 PM
ron mexico said...: FSJ,

I think tuberville will hire assistants that recruit more like saban's assistants if he stays.; 9:19 PM
ron mexico said...: tuberville will never recruit like saban... no head coach out there does; 9:20 PM
Anonymous said...: Thanks WarTiger; 9:21 PM
Eddie McCoy said...: After reading Rivals, it appears that our coaching staff is not staying in contact with some of the recruits. There apparently is some recruits that have heard from our coaches in quite awhile. That is crazy.; 9:22 PM
Anonymous said...: Saban is Saban, Faker. And he had a huge opportunity to sell immediate playing time with an "I've been there before" marquee. And the timing has been a thing of beauty.

If you could have put a price tag on Auburn's 2000 class, for example, most would have ranked it first. Fact is Tubs has built programs from the ground up. He can do that.

But my initial post doesn't exactly suggest Tuberville will do the recruiting. Patience, my by. Patience.

Like I said, it's about to get interesting. You know Auburn isn't going to roll over.; 9:23 PM
barkley for governor said...: Crudup, aren't you the one that follows Ray Cotton closely?; 9:23 PM
tigerfan44 said...: the jays messing with CTT. Like he has done au several times. ARK,LSU,any team looking for a coach.; 9:24 PM
Monica said...: Thanks Wartiger - that's very nice of you! WAR EAGLE!; 9:25 PM
Anonymous said...: no can do, George. Got other stuff going.; 9:26 PM
Anonymous said...: Yes, Barkley. Cotton will sign with Auburn.; 9:27 PM
FSJ said...: Crudup,

I assume you are inclined to believe that Tuberville is done.

I certainly don't expect Auburn to roll over...; 9:27 PM
Jet said...: Someone making' toast?

Looking upon the charred remains of the season, it's become decidedly easier for the PTB and Gogue to make the change.

Of course, I'm clearly on record as supporting change. Firing assistant coaches is merely treating symptoms of the overall problem.

Here's a repeated hope that the morning brings us an opportunity to chart a new future.; 9:27 PM
Spongeworthy said...: Hi guys. Just got in.
I think Tubby has to go, reasons all have said. Too much water over the bridge. No way he gets the AU nation together again on the same page. We will always be divided as long as he's there. Especially the money guys. Also, Who will come to work for Tubby knowing he is likely to have one or two more years? We won them all in 2004, so that year and the next would be the time to clean up in recruiting. How is it then that we look at this team and there are no playmakers. No Ronnie Browns, Caddy's, McGlovers, etc. No big time linebackers. 2004 and 2005 recruits? Where are they.; 9:28 PM
FSJ said...: Eddie:

Think about it...If they want to get rid of some of the spread focused recruits...what better way...ignore them for weeks at a time..; 9:28 PM
barkley for governor said...: How did his season end this year? I never heard anything.; 9:29 PM
FSJ said...: en fuego barkley..en fuego; 9:29 PM
Anonymous said...: The only way to get an SEC school's fan base 100% behind a coach is to do exactly what Saban has done - contend for a NC almost immediately.

If UAT had produced anything less than a 10 win season, half the rammer jammer bammers would be calling for his head.; 9:29 PM
Anonymous said...: I agree BlogTom who beat us out in 04 for a chance at a N.C. oh yeah USC and Oklahoma how are they doin this year, they got the recruits how bout us?; 9:32 PM
ron mexico said...: why would they stay in contact with some of those guys... they were recruited for franklin's system

problem is... nobody else wants them; 9:32 PM
Spongeworthy said...: I talked to several High School coaches in the Birmingham area about Tubby and Saben. All said the bama coaches way out worked AU these past two years. We got fat and happy, tried to get the easy ones out of the camps. Never contended for the five stars. If you don't like stars, I'll say it another way. Never contended for most of the players that had all the other SEC schools after them.; 9:32 PM
Anonymous said...: His last game was huge, Barkley. Huge numbers. Yet his second to last game was miserable.

He's a smooth QB with all kinds of talent. I like him because he sees the field well unlike Kodi. Kodi is just not a QB in my book. But he is a good football player.; 9:34 PM
Jet said...: I've been amazed at the calls I've received tonight. None is expecting Tommy to remain. All are speculating on a successor.

So far, Auburn is hiring:

Chris Peterson
Paul Johnson
Houston Nutt
Bobby Petrino
Will Muschamp

And this doesn't count the previously mentioned:

Steve Spurrier
Butch Davis

Craziness ... not that Tommy's on his way out, but some of the names being floated.

But it's kinda fun.; 9:36 PM
barkley for governor said...: I hope this whole Tuberville situation doesn't convince him to start looking other places.; 9:36 PM
Jeremy Eubanks said...: I thought you were on stakeout. How did you miss the three of them in an office together?; 9:37 PM
Eddie McCoy said...: Jet- The people that seem to know something seriously list Petrino, Johnson and Nutt as coaching candidates. I don't know how Petrino could get out of his deal, but I would take him.; 9:38 PM
Jet said...: If any of our commitments aren't looking around, I'd question their sanity unless they grew up an Auburn fan.; 9:38 PM
FSJ said...: Lol Barkley...; 9:39 PM
WarEagleRK said...: The bad thing is, I look at how Alabama is playing with a ball control running offense and a killer defense and think "hey, that's what I want Auburn to be".

Saban's style of football as won games since football was created. Winning the line of scrimmage and controling the clock and playing hard nosed D will beat any fad offense, any new scheme, anything. If you have the basics and good fundamentals and decent talent you'll win football games.

I hate Alabama, but I've always been impressed with the type of football Nick Saban puts on the field.; 9:39 PM
WarEagleRK said...: The thing I'd worry about with Petrino, look at what he left in Louisville after going through John L. Smith's players.; 9:40 PM
Eddie McCoy said...: I believe he left most of what went to the BCS the year before. He definitely left his QB Brohm. I think the Coach at Louisville was a disaster and that is the main reason they fell on their face.; 9:41 PM
Anonymous said...: Make no mistake about Lavoyd James out of Williamson. This guy is not one to leave behind. He's smallish, Prothro size, but lightning fast and excellent hands.

Heavens? Eh...

Ledarius Perkins is a keeper. He could make the rotation as a kick returner in Tristan's place next season.

You have Stallworth out of MS who is an athlete that can be a receiver in any type of offense. Keep him.

What's missing is the big, athletic WR. That's what Auburn needs.

Faker, it's unclear what will happen with Tubs. He's in negotiation for money to hire an O staff right now.; 9:42 PM
Eddie McCoy said...: Kiffen already accused of cheating by the ole ball coach.

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/blog/dr_saturday/post/Welcome-to-the-SEC-cheater-Signed-Ol-Ball-Co?urn=ncaaf,125819; 9:43 PM
barkley for governor said...: I'm with you on that RK.

I don't like Nick Saban, but I would love for us to play that style of football and quit worrying about going to the spread.; 9:43 PM
Jet said...: Eddie ... those that I consider my best, most reliable sources of into are saying the same thing. My guess is that we talk to some of the same folks.

I've always been a Petrino fan ... he may be a mercenary, but guess what, most all of them are now.

I question whether we can get him.

So my next choice is Johnson. I think he's got the hard-nosed nature I like. I am coming around on his offense's ability to be successful in BCS football.

Nutt would be third, but I am a fan. I like his energy, enthusiasm. Giggity.

I'd take any of them right now.

It's interesting we're talking about three coaches who are in their first year on their current jobs. Who-da thunk it?; 9:43 PM
WarEagleRK said...: Well at least now we know we need playmakers. Because I guess we were unclear if we needed them before.; 9:43 PM
Eddie McCoy said...: Crudup- I believe Tubs would have to restructure his contract to get more money to hire assistants. Everything that I have read regarding him staying would be that he would not get much money to make changes since we are paying for his mistakes already and that his contract would not be rolled over at the end of each season. Pretty much making the noose around his neck almost unbearable.; 9:45 PM
FSJ said...: I have a hard time believing that Petrino will leave pigville after one season, especially after the way he left the NFL.; 9:45 PM
Eddie McCoy said...: Agreed Jet. I thought Petrino had a clause in his contract which prevented him from going to SEC West teams, which was directed at us.; 9:46 PM
Eddie McCoy said...: Oh the irony if Nutt left Ole Miss for Auburn. Ole Miss fans would burn this place down if they could if that happened.; 9:47 PM
michael said...: Am I crazy to read this as there is a good chance he will stay? I have been wrong before. But haven't we heard they will force him to make changes on the offensive staff? It would make sense they would give him some sort of ultimatum today and give him a day or two to think about it as far as firing assistants.; 9:48 PM
Anonymous said...: I don't think any of those names are reasonable or will happen. I think this is uniquely a situation that bodes well for Tubs regardless of my opinion on his worth. He can't coach Xs and Os. But he can hire people that can. He's always, ALWAYS only been as good as his coordinators.; 9:48 PM
Eddie McCoy said...: Crudup- That is definitely the list of names that are being tossed around time and again from people that fairly accurate in the past. I put a little stock in those names, but like I said, I just don't understand Petrino's name. I want to know how?; 9:51 PM
WarEagleRK said...: Eventually you fire and move coaches so much that someone has to make the decision it's not the assistants who need moved anymore.

I've said it many times before, I like Tommy. I just don't think he's the best option for us in the future anymore. 8-5 & 9-4 every year just isn't going to cut it.; 9:52 PM
Eddie McCoy said...: All right all, like the Tuberville Saga pages turns, I'm off to bed. Look forward to what tomorrow brings.; 9:53 PM
Anonymous said...: how much is Nutt making at ole miss?; 10:01 PM
barkley for governor said...: If I had to list the three most likeable coaches in the SEC, Tuberville would definitely be in there.; 10:02 PM
wtc said...: Has anyone thought about Muschamp. I know about the Tx deal, but surley his buyout would not be too high. Several PTB like him. JayG says he didn't burn bridges when he left. HIs name was mentioned fairly prominately early on. Not sure he is the one but talk about enthusiasm and a coach the players like. And he is very good recruiter.

Just sayin'.; 10:05 PM
wtc said...: Think big picture with me on this:

Recruiting is all about marketing. UAT landed the ATL game to market itself in GA. They landed it again with Vatech (I think it is final) to market itself in GA. Saban recruits the #1 class but has a few that everyone knows will not go there. I think the two baseball players were signed knowing they would not go but it increased the class rating. Probably had a coupl;e of others, though not for sure, that they knew would never ever qualify, but sign them to get the rating up. If you look at the class now, they are a top 10, maybe a top 5 (probably are) but not #1. However, networks all talk it up as him having the #1 class. He is a marketing man and can sell it better than Mal Moore ever could.

Au needs that type of guy. Always looking at the big picture.; 10:12 PM
coosa said...: Just watched channel 6 news - Rick Karle interpreted the statement as strong support for Tubberville and thinks he's coming back. Of course, I don't think his opinion is worth any more than mine, but thought I'd post it.

Whatever we do, looks like we'll make a big mess of it.

I think FSJ is gonna be happy for a long time.; 10:14 PM
au0608 said...: Its interesting to see how everyone is interpreting the comment. I read one message board where they were celebrating his return. My question is, if the comment was an endorsement, why waist the time of saying "future meetings"; 10:18 PM
Jay G. Tate said...: The only TV I listen to is TV's Mike Raita.

Peter: You asked how I could miss those three in a meeting if I was on stakeout. You're assuming I missed it. Also, I'm still not sure Tuberville and Jacobs even saw each other Monday. Can't explain that one.; 10:19 PM
FSJ said...: I don't see how anyone can view it as a sign of support.; 10:19 PM
FSJ said...: Don't you peeps know you can't get anything past JAYG?; 10:20 PM
wtc said...: Jay-do many of the bloggers here assume you tell all to us before you write for the paper. Not accusing anyone, but was just wondering since it seems we all feel we know you and I think a lot think you would tell 'just us'. Ya know what I mean?; 10:22 PM
au0608 said...: well, the point is... with such a vague statement its anyones guess. But the simple fact that the percentage went from 25% to 78.33% is telling. I am not a fan of instability, but at this point it seems to me like the PTB are looking at their options and seeing what will work.; 10:27 PM
Jay G. Tate said...: It's so true: Reporters can't just spew all the information they get. A lot of it isn't printable. Sometimes, people don't want information out. Sometimes, I'm not 100% sure it's legit so I wait. That's just how it goes.; 10:28 PM
michael said...: I certainly don't see it as a doom statement. It completely lines up with what Spina said weeks ago, and everyone saw his statements as an endorsement. If they are forcing changes, the decisions would take longer than a clear firing or a clear endorsement with the freedom he had before.

So, just me and my awesomeness guessing, I think Tubs will be here next year.; 10:28 PM
michael said...: Hey Jay, quite awhile ago you said you were going to write a story on Quentin Groves' feelings on his NFL experience thus far. Did you get around to that? You got a link to it?; 10:31 PM
wtc said...: Jay-maybe you can answer this, if not I understand:

In the campfire you said your odds went up but you were just guessing, but coming from you, many would think you know something and just can't relay that info. So, my question would be, is your guess like the rest of the bloggers that no nothing or is your guess based on something you just can't tell us yet?

Not sure that is a fair question, but had to ask.; 10:34 PM
Anonymous said...: Jay,
I would give you$100 to punch Mike Raita.

Make it happen for me brotha.; 10:35 PM
Unknown said...: au0608, after what happened in 2003, my guess is the PTB is staying as far away from this as possible.; 10:35 PM
michael said...: http://www.fannation.com/si_blogs/the_sweep/posts/28041-conference-power-rankings-week-14?eref=fromSI

We are the number 3 conference according to this dude. And the funny thing is, I actually agree with him. The SEC this year is what we have always talked trash about: a top heavy conference. Hard to believe.; 10:37 PM
Unknown said...: wootangclan, I am certain Jay's WAG is more educated than our WAGs just because he has more info. Obviously he can't share everything, especially is someone specifically asked him not to. If he did, his sources would dry. I would take Jay's WAG for what it is, an opinion that is more educated than most.; 10:38 PM
au0608 said...: I will amend that statement, whoever is actually making the call on this one... at this point I am not sure who is actually doing that anymore. Regardless... there just isnt enough substance in the comment for his supporters to pop the cork just yet; 10:40 PM
wtc said...: For those still on board, what names are worth pursuing for OC. i've mentioned Malzahn from the get go and get shot down everytime. I would take Gus Malzahn or Chuck Long as my top two for now.

What do you think?; 10:40 PM
wtc said...: Steve-I agree. Many times I am out of the loop and especially coming in late to the camp fire. I only saw the increased % and thought I missed something really big and could not get caught up. However, sometimes he gets rollin' pretty good with you guys and I can't tell what is comedy or truth.; 10:43 PM
Unknown said...: wootangclan, Muschamp is definitely not the answer. We don't need a Mike Shula on the job training guy. Whoever is the coach next year must have significant experience. They will be competing against Saban, Miles, Petrino, and Nutt. That is just in the SEC West. Whoever MSU gets will not likely be top notch, but I consider all 4 of those top notch coaches. We shouldn't settle for Muschamp.; 10:44 PM
michael said...: We put the Christmas tree up tonight. While unpacking ornaments, I uncovered some old newspapers we stuffed into the boxes for cushioning. The newspaper page I saw was post-Peach Bowl glowing reviews of the Franklin offense. I mean, the players were so high on it. Imagine how good it could be after a spring and two-a-days!

What happened? Who? Why? How? asdfjhdf???????? How did we get here?; 10:44 PM
Unknown said...: wootangclan, the other offensive coordinator name I like is Shane Montgomery. He was who I wanted when we got Borges.; 10:46 PM
Unknown said...: michael, just say no to the TFS. I haven't seen a flop this big since the last time I did a belly buster off the high dive.; 10:47 PM
wtc said...: I don't think Muschamp is the answer and stated so when his name came up. It's just that several PTB (according to some posts here)like him and his energy, and his name hasn't been mentioned in a while. I don't think he will stay at Tx until Brown steps down. just thought that he might be on the move and everything is hush, hush.; 10:48 PM
wtc said...: Steve-I've heard the name but don't know him. Got any details on him?; 10:49 PM
Unknown said...: Here is his bio. He was very successful as the OC of Miami of Ohio but flopped as a head coach. He is one of the examples of how a good coordinator usually doesn't make a good head coach. They are different jobs.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shane_Montgomery; 10:53 PM
ADP said...: Tuberville just finished his 10th year at Auburn. He has an 85-40 (64.0%) overall record on the Plains and a 51-29 (63.8%) mark in SEC contests.

This is not fantastic. 14% above .500. That means ... just above average. Is this success?; 10:55 PM
ADP said...: What I mean to say is this: If I only did my job well 65% of the time, I'm pretty sure I wouldn't be able to keep it.; 10:56 PM
wtc said...: Good deal. I just went there. Did much better as an OC.

Well, we didn't solve anything so I guess the watch continues on Tuesday. I would bet Tubbs stays, but if the players do not buy in, we are lost for a while. Just not sure he can get us over the 8-4 hump we seem to be stuck in.

I like him, but look around and several coaches have been canned for doing about the same. makes you wonder; 10:57 PM
wtc said...: Phred, I've said all along AU sets its' sight too low. We should expect nothing less than 10 wins per year and in control of our own destiny in November. Give me that, and I will be OK. You can't always win them all, but yousurely can set your sights that high and figure out why you didn't.; 11:00 PM
Jeremy Eubanks said...: Jay G subtlely callin out the misinformation machine. I like it.; 11:01 PM
ADP said...: I just realized that when Jay G. was typing "For Jerry's Kids" synopsis', they were actually coded messages to the BOT.; 11:02 PM
Anonymous said...: Time to start talking about who the next coach will be Hotties. Tubs is on his way out. Bank on it. BET THE FARM ON IT! Jay knows it, don't you Jay. Just can't say it yet quite yet. Right Jay? But it's happening. As we speak. Some of you are going to get what you want. Just remember you asked for it. Hope you like what you get. Hope it's a heck of a lot better than Lame Kiffin.; 11:12 PM
Chris in Inverness said...: Butch Davis

how luck ydid we get that he dropped those final games?; 11:15 PM
Anonymous said...: Chris,

Make the case for Butch. Why should he be the guy? His record at Miami isn't that much better than Tubs record at AU (not including the fiasco this year). And, as you said, NC didn't really finish the job this year.; 11:19 PM
barkley for governor said...: I wonder if Davis could bring a few of those 4 and 5 star recruits with him if he comes.; 11:20 PM
Anonymous said...: Someone is coming. Tubs is out.; 11:21 PM
Chris in Inverness said...: Why Davis? My opinion:

Bucth Davis took over Miami after the program was dismatled by probation. Look up their sanctions and you'll see, the NCAA hammered them.

He did it clean. He did it with class and actually had the Miami Hurricanes ACTING right.

Secondly, he has recruiting ties in AU's most important areas. Ddavis' florida/Ga/La connections would help AU tremendously becuase - as usual - bammer will get all the Bammer kids it wants. AU must hold on to its SO. Florida connections and have a man with the name & resume to get in the door in other high schools. (( Look what the man has done in UNC)).

His name will compete with Saban's name. His connections to the Cowboys, Miami & the NFL will get him in recruits' homes.

He built the Miami program into a National Champion against stiff odds.

He can coach. He can recruit and he seems to do it the right way.; 11:29 PM
WDCWE said...: Thank you so much anon, I put so much stock in your in the know as a names Hottie. It could be the case, but it is really a stupid thing to put with no name to back it up. I could sign in anon and just as well say that he is for sure staying and he is get the ole ball coach to take the offense.; 11:31 PM
WDCWE said...: *nameless Hottie
*is getting; 11:32 PM
Anonymous said...: Wow, I just heard that Steve Spurrier is the new offense coordinator.; 11:34 PM
au0608 said...: I am a fan of Davis because he maintains a level of credibility that Tubs has established. Its a sense of continuity with the opportunity to advance. He has had experience at the college and the pro level, and he has done well (not excellent) with a North Carolina that was in the dumps. Hes not the ACC champ there this year, but hes making improvements over the previous staff at a school that competes with several other in state and out of state schools for players.

I have always been a Tuberville supporter, and to see him go would be a letdown, but at this point I dont know that another season is going to be helpful when the past 3 saw continued decline (mostly on offense). If he couldnt turn it around then, what makes this season any different.

I dont like the idea of Tuberville not being on the sidelines, but I also think that in the coaching profession as it stands today, change is good. Look at how Nutt's move has given his career new life. Granted, we are not as dysfunctional as Arkansas, but I think that sometimes its best for both parties to shake hands and move on.

I think Davis can be successful in recruiting across the Southeast, bring an instant credibility (in himself), and maintain the level of respect and dignity that Tuberville created in the program.; 11:36 PM
barkley for governor said...: http://blogs.chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/aroundthebend/2008/12/cincinnatis-kel.html

Here's an article on Brian Kelly addressing rumors about him leaving Cincy. It doesn't say anything about Auburn, but you can tell from his comments that more than likely, he will be somewhere else next year.; 11:39 PM
Anonymous said...: CCR,

Good thing your posting as CCR and not anonymous. That tells us so much about who you are. I mean, really. I know so much about your credentials man.

Anonymous (but not the other anonymous, or two, or three).; 11:40 PM
WRB3 said...: Don't you guys think that if Davis wanted to leave NC, or would leave NC, that he would be at Tennessee right now? Surely they approached him before Kiffin. Why would AU be a better job? UT is pretty high profile, and you don't have Saban across the state from you.; 11:44 PM
Anonymous said...: I believe the whole Auburn situation has reached the point of no return.
No way CTT can return and have any control over the program or his own destiny. The fans are divided and split over what to do and the chronic mismanagement/mishandling of situations since 2003.

We need a clean break.
Fresh start.
New and vibrant/energetic blood.
A new attitude.; 11:45 PM
Anonymous said...: More on What Happened Today; 11:47 PM
WDCWE said...: I am saying that if you post on this blog regularly, then you know FSJ is a bama, Mr. Sensible has his own radio show, Monica is our favorite Hottie from WV. If Crudup posted that he had sources that said Tubbs was gone, I would believe him. He has a long history of posting on here. Handle names are somewhat anon, but at least I have a history with Michael to know that his is hilarious and good natured guy, or that Kristina set up the facebook group. Building that relationship gives you credibility. Anon gives you none, whether if you really know or now.; 11:48 PM
Anonymous said...: CCR,

I can only assume from your delay in responding that you must be typing out a brief bio with all of your credentials. Looking forward to seeing that. I'm sure you wouldn't want to continue to hide behind that CCR thing.

Anonymous (the same one that called you out a minute ago); 11:49 PM
Chris in Inverness said...: First off, I was asked to make my case for Davis.

Secondly, umm yeah. Woah....yeah. UT is a much better job with Urban Myer and Florida sucking like they doand UGA being as bad as they've been. And if he's scared of Saban, I guess UT playing Saban every year would be just as bad as him being across the state.

What was I thinking?

Steve Spurrier's a chump......well.

There's no recruiting base for UT and if someone asked around he'd see that.

Very simple, UNC is the KY of the ACC.

Butch Davis is second fiddle at that school and that will NEVER EVER change.; 11:50 PM
WDCWE said...: I really need to proof read my posts...
*is a bama fan
*he is hilarious
*really know or not.; 11:50 PM
ADP said...: autiger3: If Davis came to Auburn, it would be for one reason ... to appease his ego. He has openly stated in the press that he believes he is better than Saban. He would like to prove it.

Other than that, I can't think of any reasons.; 11:51 PM
Anonymous said...: People post here anonymously all the time. Point is, there is no need to jump someone for that. Believe what they say if you want. Or don't. Maybe they can't or shouldn't say who they are. Maybe they know something that they want to share without compromising a source. I don't know. But no need to jump on people for posting anonymously.; 11:52 PM
WDCWE said...: They do, and for the most part what they say doesn't get noticed. If you have a question you want to ask, or make a point on an argument, then posting anon is fine. Posting "inside information" is just ridiculous.; 11:56 PM
WRB3 said...: Chris,

Wasn't trying to pick an argument with you man. Just wondering why he may have turned down UT (do you know if they offered it to him?) and why he might be interested in coming here. I agree with regard to UF and UGA. Just curious about folks opinions.; 11:57 PM
ADP said...: yeah ... because it could be Jay G giving us the scoop without being public about it, not that it was Jay G. I'm cool with being anonymous as long as Tim is cool about it. I only put my real name on my profile page because everybody already knows that I am an idiot, so I figured it couldn't hurt. But some folks want to keep that a secret and I support them.; 11:57 PM
WRB3 said...: Phred,

Ego can be a great motivator. If he said that (re: Saban) then pay him what it takes and get his butt over here so he can prove it. I'd love to see him do it.; 11:59 PM
WDCWE said...: Well they shouldn't be sharing in the first place. I hope Auburn isn't stupid enough again to trust JetGate like information with people who want to leak it to everyone before Auburn University makes a state. My only point about posting anon is that it has no credibility. It is just speculation.; 12:02 AM
Anonymous said...: CCR,

I get your point. "Inside Info" posted anonymously must be looked at skeptically, but sometimes that's the only way it gets posted. May be that there is some clue in what was posted that would tip off who posted it, for those that know enough to read between the lines. That is to say, anon's post may mean more to some than it does to you. Just a thought.

Anonymous (but still not the one with the inside info).; 12:03 AM
WDCWE said...: *makes a statement.

Seriously guys, I am terribly sorry about these stupid correction posts. Jay G, forgive me.; 12:03 AM
Chris in Inverness said...: Sorry.

I just don't think UT is a better job with the division they play in and the recruiting base.

And I don't think because Saban's in Turdtown it mneans AU isn't a good job.

JMHO; 12:05 AM
Anonymous said...: If more than one person knows it, it isn't a secret anymore. So to think anything serious could happen without a leak is foolish. And I guarantee you everyone involved knows that to start with. Or maybe they wanted it leaked.; 12:06 AM
Chris in Inverness said...: I haven't heard/seen where Davis said anything about Saban.

He did have more sucess in the NFL than Little Nicky.

If Davis answers the phone call from Auburn -- load up the brinks.

Bammer's getting their 4 million worth right now.; 12:08 AM
WDCWE said...: Ok, I am really sorry this has gotten to be a stupid argument.
On a lighter note, what is funny about it is that I used to post on here using my real name, but too many of my friends yelled at me for it and said that I was going to get my identity stolen or that someone was going to track me down... Wait, is that a knock on my door?; 12:08 AM
WRB3 said...: Chris,

I think AU is a great job. I think UT could be a great job also. They have, in the past, competed with those other progams. And they have some national recognition (or at least they did).

I think any coach would love the chance to come here and knock Saban down a notch or two, wouldn't want someone who didn't think they could.

Davis would be a good choice if he still has the drive and hunger to really go after it. I think UF did it right hiring a young guy with a great record at a small school and a real burning desire to prove himself somewhere big.

What are your thoughts about the guy at Boise (name is escaping me right now)?; 12:12 AM
Chris in Inverness said...: well, for all who don't know -- Chris is a nickname.

My uncle's a bookie & I'm his apprentice.; 12:12 AM
Chris in Inverness said...: Peterson --- Not really aperterson guy.

Meyer was different becauase he ran a scheme offensively he created and was the only guy who could run it.

Peterson is a big risk becuase he has no ties to southern schools for recruiting purposes.

Remember, Myere took the UF job becuase its better than Notre Dame and recruits itself.

AU isn't in that place. Florida has its choice of players in Fla and beyond.; 12:15 AM
Anonymous said...: Just trying to present the other side of the argument CCR. Two sides to every coin ya know. No hard feelings dude. War Damn Eagle man.; 12:16 AM
WDCWE said...: War Eagle!!; 12:17 AM
ADP said...: I've kinda been hoping someone WOULD steal my identity. At least then, I would have someone to blame.; 12:18 AM
Chris in Inverness said...: Alright - See you guys tomorrow.

War Damn Butch Davis.; 12:19 AM
WRB3 said...: Okay, so you think Davis should be the top choice? What about Johnson. That's another name being thrown around a good bit. Saw them play Miami and it was pretty impressive.

Would I be wrong to think that if they fire Tubs, they must have someone committed to step in?; 12:19 AM
au0608 said...: What do you guys think about Todd Graham at Tulsa or Brian Kelly at Cincy? Obviously they dont have the name recognition, but off the top of my head, I cant really think of a "big name" that looks like an attractive option. Perhaps Patterson at TCU, but it appears he is happy there (KState seemed to be interested in him at one point).; 12:19 AM
WRB3 said...: Phred,

With that picture up there you could use someone else to blame.; 12:22 AM
Aubie said...: Aubie is my entire real name... kinda like Madonna... or Pink.
And that is my real picture to the right.; 12:25 AM
ADP said...: I'm just waiting on my HABOTN shirt to get here so I can have my new profile pic made. I think all T-shirt owners should use a HABOTN shirt pic as their profile pic. What about it boys and girls?; 12:25 AM
Anonymous said...: Love it Aubie; 12:30 AM
WRB3 said...: That would be too confusing Phred. Right now, when looking for your posts, I just scan for that thing, and viola, there you are. You know, need to phind phred, just look for the phallus.; 12:33 AM
ADP said...: LOL ... ha ha that was really funny ... uh ... hey wait a minute - did you just call me a phallus head?

I kid.

I'm out. See ya'll.; 12:40 AM
ADP said...: Wait - this just in. If you took CTT's winning percentage at Auburn and applied it to a season win/loss record, it would alternate between 7-5 and 8-4. Did you hear what I just said? That's the standard he has achieved in 10 years as the head. That is not good. I think just about any new coach could feasibly reach that goal. So then, tell me again why Tubs should get another year?; 12:54 AM
Anonymous said...: History will be kind to Tuberville. His time here was good. Few would have done better. Before us now I see a long dark and cold winter that we may not see the end of for several years. I am afraid that it will not be long in the future before we talk of the good times of the past 10 years and wish we could have them back. What we had taken from the Tide we have given back, and it will not be as easy to take it again. Saturday in Tuscaloosa was a picture of what is to come. Gray skies, cold winds, and fog. Take cover my friends, the storm is only just now approaching, and we will have much to weather before we see the sun again.

But see it we will. A day will come when the sky burns orange and blue. On that day the Tide will recede. The eagle will soar high in that clear blue sky. And on that day the Tigers will roam the plains and devour all that stand in their path. We will rise again my friends, we will rise again.; 1:04 AM
WRB3 said...: Phred, do that same trick with Butch Davis college stats (miami and UNC) and see what you get. Bet it is eerily similar.

Again, I like Davis, but his record (if I recall correctly) is not that different from Tubs.; 1:07 AM