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12.01.2008

Update from the Plains

According to a statement released by Auburn spokesperson Kirk Sampson on Monday night, Tuberville met with school officials on Monday.

Here is the statement:
President Gogue, Jay Jacobs and Coach Tuberville did meet Monday to have their annual end of the season meeting. Further conversations between Jay Jacobs and Coach Tuberville will take place in the following days to discuss Coach Tuberville’s plan to make improvements for the program moving forward under his leadership.

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Blogger Steve from Columbia said...

I just wanted to take the time to say I feel your pain, Jay. I got to thinking about how it would be to be you or Tuberville. Tuberville has to know why the reporters are hanging around and you must be very frustrated waiting for some news to come out. I bet the football complex isn't a very happy place these days.

1:30 AM  
Blogger Phormerly Phred said...

au3: I'm with you. but that isn't counting his record at Ole Miss. That's here at AU. If you went to overall record as a coach, then it's 54% - or, alternating between 6-6 and 7-5. Again, not good.

For some reason, I'm up at 1:30 in the morning watching Rocky IV. Can he beat the Russian? Oh, the suspense.

1:36 AM  
Blogger WarEagleRK said...

Butch Davis had a huge disadvantage of taking over a Miami team that the NCAA had just torn apart when Erickson got them the dreaded "lack of institutional control" penalty.

6:09 AM  
Blogger WarEagleRK said...

Jay,

PMarsh wrote a little commentary about how unfair it was to leave Tub twisting in the wind. I'm guessing your comment to him yesterday that he did the same thing last year didn't really sink in.

6:18 AM  
Blogger coosa said...

Letting Tubs twist in the wind might be justice, payback, whatever you want to call it, but it's hurting AU right now and they need to stop it. Unless, of course, the decision has already been made to fire him. Then I guess letting him hang for a few days won't really hurt anything.

I've got no idea on who a good replacement would be. I really wanted Pat Sullivan to get the job when Tubs was hired, but I doubt Pat's health would let him tackle the AU job now. There's nobody out there that I would get excited about being hired.

Anonymous, that was a good post at 1:04 this morning; I agree 100%.

I don't understand why people want to post as anonymous, only takes a minute to register. And you can register more than once and have multiple personalities if you want. Can even carry on a conversation with yourself if nobody else will talk to you. ;)

6:43 AM  
Blogger AUTiger3 said...

Hey Phred,

Did Rocky beat that Russian again? I think he's undefeated against that guy. Kinda like if you replay our 2004 season we still win every game. Of course, that doesn't mean as much today as it did then for either of them.

7:24 AM  
Blogger AUTiger3 said...

Second what coosa said about the 1:04 post.

7:25 AM  
Blogger AUTiger3 said...

Fair point RK. No argument Davis is good. Just curious about the comparison on the numbers Phred mentioned.

7:28 AM  
Blogger Eddie4AU said...

All right all, I'm settled in for an exciting day of news I hope.

Scottie- I'm enjoying my HABOTN Tee-shirt today. It's great.

7:42 AM  
Blogger Mr. Spock said...

Spock here -

Davis amassed a 51-20 record while at Miami – That is an average of 8.5 wins per season. (This was despite scholarship limitations imposed from violations of the previous regime) Davis’s final season produced an 11-1 mark and a #2 ranking. During his Miami tenure, Davis achieved outstanding graduation rates as well, furthermore his superior recruiting is credited with laying the foundation upon which his successor, Larry Coker, produced the 2001 MNC. In addition to his final 11-1 season, Davis posted 3 nine win seasons, a 8 win season in his first year and a 5-6 mark in year three. He produced 3 conference championships and 2 second place finishes – Of course, this was in the Big East, do with that as you will…..
In his two seasons at NC, he is 12-12, going 4-8 and now 8-4

Spock out -

7:43 AM  
Blogger Eddie4AU said...

Spock- Could you beam him to Auburn for us.

7:46 AM  
Blogger FSJ said...

Davis is a very good coach...

However, if Davis were leaving North Carolina this year, he would be at Tennessee right now. JMHO.

7:48 AM  
Blogger AUTiger3 said...

FSJ,

That was my thought as well, however, there was some definate disagreement about that last night.

7:52 AM  
Blogger Eddie4AU said...

Butch Davis's name only seems to be comming up among the fans. I would be pleasantly surprised to see him at Auburn. I don't think it will happen.

7:56 AM  
Blogger FSJ said...

For all I know Davis may be wanting out. He also may be waiting around to see what is going to happen with Notre Dame and possibly Florida (if Meyer were to take the ND job).

7:57 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Gang, the only other candidate worth looking at is Kelly at Cinci and I'm not sure he'd do any better than Tubs has done.

I think there needs to be a change, but I have no idea who AU will have a chance with.

Butch Davis is not an option.

7:59 AM  
Blogger Mr. Spock said...

Eddie - You'll have to ask "Scottie" for that one...

8:01 AM  
Blogger FSJ said...

You are correct Sensi....There is no obvious candidate out there.

8:05 AM  
Blogger Mr. Spock said...

I calculate ths odds of Davis (or any other coach)"beaming"to AU as.....3 million to 1. Granted, there are some variables of which I am not privy to and this could affect my calculations.

Spock out

8:05 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Spock, this is a bit OT, but what do you expect from the latest ST film by JJ Abrams?

I can tell you I expect to be very confused. That's pretty much all I ever got from the short time I spent with Lost and with that Cloverfield thing.

8:08 AM  
Blogger McLovin said...

What about a Gary Patterson from TCU?

8:08 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Again, not much of an upgrade over Tubs.

8:10 AM  
Blogger WarEagleRK said...

The preview of the new Star Trek looks pretty good.

I know a lot of people out there aren't much of an improvment over Tuberville, however even someone at the same level would bring in some new energy and excitement around the program and possibly some hunger to prove themselves that hasn't been there recently.

8:17 AM  
Blogger Just Win AU said...

Tubs should have never gotten rid of Borges. I know all the arguments about we got predictable, not a great recruiter - on and on. But looking at the numbers without Borges Tubs' winning % is 58%, with Borges it was 82%.

8:19 AM  
Blogger McLovin said...

I always liked Grobe from Wake.

8:20 AM  
Blogger Steve from Columbia said...

It is hard to see any coach doing much better than Tuberville when you see the competition in the SEC West alone. The coaching level just keeps rising in the SEC. While surpassing our mighty 5-7 record is doable, 9 or 10 win seasons are the most likely scenario in the best case.

I am growing a bit tired of the coaching talk because there really isn't a right answer. I am sure we will be much improved next season no matter who is the coach. The number of returning starters should ensure that.

What is most important now is for the Jays to make a decision quickly. It is what is in the best interest of Auburn.

8:20 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Can't remove the variable of the talent Borges had at his disposal though.

Kyle Whittingham - Utah.

All he's done since taking over for Urban Myth is go 36-14 and 3 straight bowl wins.

8:22 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

chris peterson from Boise. Young and hungry. Just like Myer was when he took over FL.

8:24 AM  
Blogger Steve from Columbia said...

I do believe that getting rid of Borges was a mistake, mainly because I think he was a coordinator that was willing to stick with Auburn and not disappear after a successful season. That is my knock on Tuberville. There has been too much coordinator turnover. Admittedly, a lot of it has been because he chose good coaches, but the coaches he chose were also looking to be head coaches. A guy like Borges that had been burned by trying to move up might have stuck with us for the long term.

8:24 AM  
Blogger Just Win AU said...

Borges did have some talent at his disposal, no doubt. I really think he could have helped Kodi improve - look at what he did with Campbell.

8:26 AM  
Blogger Phormerly Phred said...

Why would you want to have coordinators who have ZERO ambition?

8:29 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Jay, where are you this morning? Any idea yet when the announcement will come?

8:29 AM  
Blogger Mr. Spock said...

Sensi - J.J. Abrams brings feng shui to the Star Trek universe. I think it will be a great movie.
Would you like to know more?
www.trekmovie.com
www.startrekmovie.com
https://bodlygo.intel.com

Spock out

8:31 AM  
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8:33 AM  
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8:34 AM  
Blogger WarEagleRK said...

"It is hard to see any coach doing much better than Tuberville when you see the competition in the SEC West alone."

Miles has a 79% winning % at LSU

Saban had a 75% winning % at LSU and Alabama

Nutt has a 62% winning % at Arkansas and Ole Miss

Tub is just barely better than Nutt in that same SEC west.

8:40 AM  
Blogger Steve from Columbia said...

Phormerly Phred, there is a difference between ambition and wanting to be a head coach.

8:40 AM  
Blogger Steve from Columbia said...

WarEagleRK, that is very true and Nutt is a very good coach. To judge Tuberville's winning percentage when it is obviously down because of this one disastrous season doesn't seem fair. Until this season, we were the third winningest team in the SEC this decade.

8:42 AM  
Blogger FSJ said...

Also Steve from Columbia...

To judge Tuberville's winning percentage by leaving out 2008 is more unfair, IMO. He's been at Auburn ten years. This shouldn't happen.

8:44 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What direction is this program headed, SFC?

If you look since 2004, it's trending downward and (nothing personal against the kids) I don't see Auburn with the kind of players (here now or coming in) to make a big turnaround with the current staff in place.

Like The Joker said, this town needs an enema.

8:44 AM  
Blogger Steve from Columbia said...

FSJ, judging by his previous record, I am saying he deserves a mulligan. This is the first truly bad season we have had under him. Some will point to 2003 or even a 9 win 2007 season, but in general Tuberville has been a very consistent coach considering the incredible amount of coordinator turnover he has had.

8:46 AM  
Blogger WarEagleRK said...

Until this year, Tub has kept us at a consistant level. To some fans the 8-9 win average is acceptable. I agree that it makes him a good coach.

However it doesn't make him a top level coach. Top level coaches have more than one conference championship in a decade.

8:46 AM  
Blogger Steve from Columbia said...

Mr. Sensible, please explain how the direction of the program could have gone up from 2004?

8:47 AM  
Anonymous wtc said...

just heard there is a team meeting that started at 8:00am

8:47 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Exactly, RK.

If Auburn doesn't make the moves necessary to get to the next level now, there is a good chance they will be left behind when the college football scene changes in the future.

8:48 AM  
Blogger Steve from Columbia said...

wtc, very interesting. Thanks.

8:48 AM  
Blogger Steve from Columbia said...

Mr. Sensible, the question is what changes will get Auburn to the next level and where the problems with the program have been.

8:49 AM  
Blogger WarEagleRK said...

It can't go up from 13-0, but it didn't have to drop off like it did either.

Even in 2006 when we were 11-2, it was a very ugly 11-2.

The talent level fall has been more drastic than the record until this year.

8:50 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ok, SFC, after Carson Palmer graduated from USC, did they go backwards? Didn't think so.

Auburn in 2005 took a step back to reload a bit and I understand that. But 2006-2008 have been marked by losing to teams Auburn should have beaten and missed opportunities. 2006 we had a real chance at the BCS and blew it.

8:50 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Steve,

Most folks like Tubs. He's good. But let's face it, the ante just went up.

8:51 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Mr. Sensible, the question is what changes will get Auburn to the next level and where the problems with the program have been." - SteveFC

The problems have been a significant drop off in playmakers on the offensive side of the ball (or a lack of them altogether) and a propensity for losing games Auburn shouldn't lose.

8:51 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Big time coaches and teams, don't have those two problems.

8:52 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Someone mentioned the team meeting last night during the fire. After Jay left. To the point everyone was saying, is there a team meeting this morning with no announcement so that CTT could say goodbye to the players?

8:53 AM  
Blogger WarEagleRK said...

I haven't seen anything officially from anyone other than people posting about a team meeting.

8:56 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

RK - It wasn't official. It was a comment that was made and I saw it somewhere else as well.

8:58 AM  
Blogger Mr. Spock said...

Sensi - I'll contact Dr. McCoy in sickbay regarding your enema request...But I would like to know if this is for a total enema or a partial? I think some like Willis should stay....Then again I am a homer who would like to see Pat Nix as OC and Dameyune Craig as QB coach. Later today I plan to report to sickbay myself and have the good Dr. correct my orange and blue astigmatism.

Spock out-

8:59 AM  
Blogger WarEagleRK said...

If someone new comes in, they would be a fool not to keep James Willis.

9:00 AM  
Blogger depressedAUfan said...

Fact is at this point in the program, the "next level" is a .500 record. This coach said last year the program is in great shape, and recruiting is good and only getting better. Do those statements match what we all see on the field? Even people who defend CTT must seriously question at this point in his career if he is the coach to turn this program around.

9:02 AM  
Blogger Hornet said...

the silence on the Plains is deafening

9:04 AM  
Blogger Jet said...

I saw the term "mulligan" used.

Unfortunately, at the highest levels of management and golf, mulligans aren't allowed.

I presume by lunchtime or a little later, we'll be in full successor speculation.

Just a guess. But a semi-educated one.

9:05 AM  
Blogger Phormerly Phred said...

Actually, it can go up from 13-0. Go 13-0 AND win the BCS. That would be up.

Steve ... I guess. But I think you get my point.

Word from an insider (seriously) is that it will play out just like we all originally thought. Major changes and Tubs stays. Actually, the phrase was "it's doubtful that we'll get rid of CTT."

9:07 AM  
Blogger James in B'ham said...

After reading 250 plus posts, it's time for a new thread...

9:07 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Good points, Jet.

For you golfers, is there a "safe" course to play in Montgomery or Auburn for newbies to the links like myself?

9:07 AM  
Blogger James in B'ham said...

Mr. S,

Indian Pines is a fine course for a beginner. Played there many many times and I've always had fun.

9:08 AM  
Blogger Sean said...

Sensi, you can't go wrong with Indian Pines off of Dean Road if you're a novice.

9:09 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Maybe Jay is getting something for a new Thread.

9:09 AM  
Blogger Sean said...

Sorry not Dean, it's off of University.

9:10 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Thanks Sean and James. I'll try that one out soon.

9:10 AM  
Blogger FSJ said...

Sensi...

Don't play at the RTJ courses if you want to survive.

The one up here near Gadsden is long and hilly. The greens are huge, but you always end up with a huge break on your putts.

Kicks my butt each time I play there. Beautiful, but tough for a hacker like me.

9:10 AM  
Blogger The Seeker said...

Spock- I think Tubs should be demoted to ensign, given a red uniform and sent off on an away mission.

9:11 AM  
Blogger Phormerly Phred said...

Sensi ... you would improve quicker by using a little less club and play harder courses. Sounds cliche, but it's true. You do that, and you'll cut 25 strokes tomorrow. Penalty strokes add up quick, you know? My point is, instead of hitting your driver in the woods, hit two five irons to the spot you wanted to get to. You just shaved a stroke.

9:13 AM  
Blogger James in B'ham said...

Hey FSJ,

Where did you get the avatar?

I have a collection of FAIL pics that I would like to add it to. I saved the one in your profile but it's way too small.

9:13 AM  
Blogger McLovin said...

The RTJ course the Judge is very tuff to play. All the courses I play are located in Birmingham. I like playing the Farm, but Bent Brook is my favorite.

9:14 AM  
Blogger FSJ said...

James,

It was on TI. I have it saved. I can send it to you.

9:14 AM  
Blogger Sean said...

Phred, that's solid advice. I took Golf 1 and 2 while at Auburn and one day I left all my clubs bigger than a 5 iron at the house and played my best round.

9:15 AM  
Blogger The Seeker said...

Bent brook rocks...that was my fav when i lived in BHam

9:15 AM  
Blogger FSJ said...

YGM James

9:16 AM  
Blogger Sean said...

Does anyone know the name of the short course down near UAB? The lanscaping on that thing was a nightmare and the bushes ate 3 sleeves before it was all said and done.

9:17 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Phred,

I've just about abandoned my driver altogether. I hit so much better with the irons. I do have a hybrid that I like as well.

9:18 AM  
Blogger Monica said...

Thanks for the avatar change. Much better.

9:20 AM  
Blogger Sean said...

Sensi, I have a love/hate relationship with my driver...but last time I was at the driving range I didn't get the club face around enough, hit the ball on the heel and the club head went about 50 yards down hill into the sand trap...now I don't have to worry about it.

9:21 AM  
Blogger FSJ said...

James,

The email address in your profile is rejecting messages.

9:21 AM  
Blogger Just Win AU said...

Mr. S, the par 3 course at Grand National is always fun. I know all par 3's but it's a lot of fun. I always play that when I'm in Auburn.

9:21 AM  
Blogger Mr. Spock said...

Lt Uhura, Open hailing frequencies to Starfleet Command (Colonial Bank) and ask Admiral Lowder about seekers request. I have an away mission for Tom Tuberville that involves a certain cloud creature, but as everyone who watches the show knows, Gold shirts always come back and red shirts do not (Unless you are a certain Chief Engineer). So we need that new uniform change STAT!

Spock out -

9:22 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I like the Trojan Oaks in Troy as well. It's a fun 9 and has a good balance of open holes and challenges.

9:22 AM  
Blogger James in B'ham said...

Thanks FSJ!

9:23 AM  
Blogger McLovin said...

I think you are talking about the Highland Golf Course. It is very narrow and is pretty short. I think it plays about 6000 yds from the back Tee's and I believe it is a par 70 course. The only think I like about the course is the conditon of the greens.

9:24 AM  
Blogger The Seeker said...

Thanks Spock

9:25 AM  
Blogger Sean said...

McLovin, that's definitely the place...I was taken there for Part 1 of my Bachelor party, I left so frustrated it almost ruined my day.

9:26 AM  
Blogger James in B'ham said...

Try it again FSJ. I had an old email listed there, just changed it.

9:28 AM  
Blogger Mr. Spock said...

Seeker -

Breaking character here..... When choosing my "Secret Identity" for the HABOTN - I was down to Spock - or - Elvis Nixon and using that exact photo! That is too wierd man...

Back in character
Spock out-

9:29 AM  
Blogger The Seeker said...

Dorks unite

9:30 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Uh Oh in Rocky Top - already!

LINK

9:30 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Jet is on target re his 9:05 post.

9:32 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

How so, Tim?

9:36 AM  
Blogger Jet said...

Without knowing your level ...

If you are a newbie to golf, then River Run is a good place to learn the game and get comfortable with it. It's 36 holes, one of the courses is more wide open and it's short as well ... it ain't Augusta National, but it serves its purpose well.

As you improve, Emerald Mountain (across toll bridge from River Run) and Lagoon Park are good courses. They are much nicer layouts, but playable.

When you are ready to put on your big boy panties, go to Capitol Hill in Prattville and take your pick of the three courses... and be prepared to wet your panties anyway. Translated, if you struggle to break a 100 on those courses listed above ... understand that you will have a horrible round of golf on a beautiful track.

This has been Jet's River Region of Golf on HABOTN ... Now back to your regularly scheduled gabfest on the coaching situation.

9:37 AM  
Blogger Eddie4AU said...

Mr. S- I saw that last night. That is hilarious that Kiffen may already be in trouble.

9:37 AM  
Blogger Steve from Columbia said...

It really should be noted that Les Miles is going through his rebuilding season this year. His record the previous three seasons have been pretty remarkable, but the drop off has been incredible.

What is most interesting is the reason for the drop off, and it largely lies in one place, the QB. QBs don't win games by themselves, but they certainly can loose them.

That being said, you have to look at the reasons for our decline. A lot of it is purely on Tuberville's shoulders, but some things are not. It is the specific issues that I focus upon.

I do attribute part of the drop off due to Jetgate, but that is only part of the issue.

There were also mistakes in recruiting and redshirting that caused a significant drop off in experienced receivers after the 2005 season, al la what happened with Borges.

There has also been the failure to develop new talent. Some say we don't have the talent. I think that is a bunch of bull. Compare the recruiting classes on rivals prior to 2004 and after 2004. It is pretty consistent. This issue is not talent, but rather coaching.

All problems with coaching have to be the responsibility of Tuberville. The Gibbs hiring was an obvious mistake. The firing of Borges and hiring of Franklin was also likely a mistake. Yes, I am saying the hiring of Franklin may not have been a mistake.

Yep, you read that right. I think there is the distinct possibility that there were managerial issues that caused Auburn to get Franklined, or Fed for short. These may or may not have been due to Tuberville, although he should answer for the performance of his coaches.

Tuberville apparently dictated who Franklin's assistants should be, which was clearly a mistake that he may be willing to correct, although after reading what he said, I am not certain.

There is also the possibility that Franklin was a loose cannon and lacked the managerial skills to teach the position coaches. I find this highly probable also. This would also be a Tuberville mistake, but he has obviously done something to correct it, although I also question the wisedom of getting rid of a coordinator in the middle of the season. I do wonder if there isn't more to that story.

Well, this is my why not Tuberville reasoning. There is also a why Tuberville, but I will save it for another post.

9:37 AM  
Blogger Eddie4AU said...

We need to have a HABOTN Open next spring when the weather gets nice again. That would be a blast. I will more than gladly help to get this arranged.

9:38 AM  
Blogger Eddie4AU said...

Steve- Not to disagree completely with you, but LSU Defense has been equally bad as the QB position and that involves 11 players instead of just one.

9:39 AM  
Blogger Jet said...

I prefer a HABOTN Invitational ... no Bammers allowed ... except for FSJ ... he can caddy for Monica.

9:40 AM  
Blogger James in B'ham said...

Because my golfing skills are sub par, any HABOTN open would need to be in a scramble format.

Anybody looking for a D player, then I'm your man!

9:40 AM  
Blogger FSJ said...

Jet:

The last time I played Silver Lakes (RTJ) up this way, I shot a 98 I believe and it was as good as I could possibly play. I hit the ball where I wanted to for the most part, but the greens are tough. The par threes border on unfair.

On a normal course, the way I played would have resulted in a good score. Not on this monster. I'm sure the RTJ course in the Montgomery area is the same.

9:40 AM  
Blogger WarEagleRK said...

I am so far beyond awful at golf it's not even funny. However I can do the Charles Barkley and drink and have fun with it.

9:41 AM  
Blogger FSJ said...

Eddie,

Rumor is that there is about to be a mass exodus of LSU assistants.

Chavis from Tennesee is rumored to get the DC position in bayou land.

9:41 AM  
Blogger Jet said...

The Judge is another reason to stay out of court.

The Senator is a links course with all sorts of mounds that lead to blind shots (no fun for me), then again, I have no idea where it's going anyway.

The Legislator is more playable.

I don't break a 100 at these courses, but I love the sport. Only play 3-4 times a year. I actually like the Greenville courses better.

9:42 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm with James. I play golf to have an excuse to get outside, walk around, enjoy landscaping, and occasionally get some exercise. I'm not interested in making the tour.

9:42 AM  
Blogger Eddie4AU said...

RK- Just don't bring Barkley's swing. That is ridiculous, especially when one of your best friends is Tiger Woods.

9:43 AM  
Blogger Jet said...

Barkley's swing kinda looks like our offense ... out of synch with no discernible strategy ... with a dangerous outcome

9:44 AM  
Blogger Eddie4AU said...

So Jet, why were you saying by lunch time earlier that we would be looking for a replacement?

9:44 AM  
Blogger FSJ said...

Sensi...

I agree. At this point in my life I have given up on making the tour...

I used to be decent, but time and lack of practice has taken its toll on my game.

Occasionally, I will hit the ball well, but not often. I do love the game though.

9:45 AM  
Blogger Eddie4AU said...

I caddied for 8 years at the Honors Course in chattanooga while growing up, and Barkley's is by far the worst swing I have ever seen.

9:45 AM  
Blogger FSJ said...

Tuberville is an excellent golfer, correct?

If so, they can move him over to golf coach if they decide to make a change.

9:46 AM  
Blogger Steve from Columbia said...

Eddie4AU, I agree that LSU's defense has declined, but I do attribute defensive decline to bad offense. But actually, we played LSU fairly early in the season and we moved the ball much better than I had anticipated.

The decision on Tuberville has to be based upon a lot of things, some that we are not fully aware of. I guess the basic question is can another coach come in and do a significantly better job. I have my doubts. I have heard Tuberville's reign referred to as the hey day of Auburn football, and that is very close to correct, although Dyes three SEC titles in three years is very impressive also.

9:46 AM  
Blogger Jet said...

Chatter ... hunch ... if i had to guess what's going on is that a general framework may have been reached yesterday and last night the lawyers worked hard and today all will be revealed.

I could be dead wrong. But if Tommy were staying, this could have been handled by noon yesterday.

My guess is that TT had been dead man walking until the Muschamp deal was cut ... then there was a pause because there wasn't a clear Plan B. Then there were 36 reasons to take another look ... or maybe the PTB put out misinfo to allow them to ID a new target.

We'll see.

9:48 AM  
Blogger WarEagleRK said...

The closest I have ever come to playing the Honors was doing a live remote from there with Sporttalk.

I stuck to Moccasin Bend, The Quary, Brown Acres & places like that. Of course I haven't been in like 5 or 6 years so it's been a long long time.

9:48 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Don't think for a second that what's happening over in Tuscaloosa doesn't weigh in on this.

Auburn is back to trying to catch Alabama and it's not a close race right now.

9:48 AM  
Blogger FSJ said...

Dye could coach circles around Tuberville, IMO.

His run from 1986-1989 was remarkable. Auburn was the team in the SEC during those years.

9:49 AM  
Blogger James in B'ham said...

Eddie,

I've played the Honors once - it was way above my skill level then and probably still is now.

I used to go over to Concord (a.k.a Concrete) many years ago and play all day, Brainerd as well. Good times back then.

Moccasin Bend was another favorite spot I had in Chattavegas.

9:49 AM  
Blogger Jay G. Tate said...

New thread up, peops.

9:49 AM  
Blogger WarEagleRK said...

"we played LSU fairly early in the season and we moved the ball much better than I had anticipated."

That says all you need to know about LSU's D.

9:49 AM  
Blogger FSJ said...

Sensi:

Agree 100%.

What happens at one school affects the other and vice versa.

Just the way it is.

9:50 AM  
Blogger michael hatin' on stinkabama said...

We should shoot Alabama in the leg. That will make them much easier to catch. ie, let's find out where Julio got his escalade!

I say Pro! You say bation!

Pro!

Bation!

Pro!

Bation!

9:50 AM  
Blogger Steve from Columbia said...

Jet, it really scares me to think that the best coach we could find would be Muschamp. I would take Rhoads over him any day.

9:50 AM  
Blogger WarEagleRK said...

I had a friend who was on the grounds crew at Concord.

9:51 AM  
Blogger Jet said...

I think I posted this before:

This year is like 1980 (winless in the league), 1991 (big slip after slight slip in '90), and 1998 (train wreck after winning division).

In 1980, Barfield out, Dye in. By 1982, we had beat Bama for the first time in 10 years and won the SEC the following year.

In 1991, we gave Dye a mulligan and it went nowhere. He left after 1992. We know what happened the following year.

In 1998, Terry out, Tommy in. By 2000, we were in the championship game.

As Thomas Jefferson said, the tree of liberty from time to time must be refreshed from with the blood of patriots and tyrants.

9:53 AM  
Blogger AUBigCat said...

Which is the bigger gamble, hiring a new HC or hiring a new OC/staff??

I think we want change because CTT is old school and conservative. He believes in a great defense, a solid running game and special teams. For the most part, he has consitently provided that over his tenure. The missing component has always been consistency with the O. Fix that and we're right back in the hunt.

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