Monday reset
Hey everyone. I am back from vacation and feeling lovely.It rained in Montgomery last night. For that, I am very thankful. I bet you Gumpians/Lee Countians feel the same way.
So what will we do now that the HABOTN is back for real? I still owe you a Trooper Taylor coaching snapshot to round out the staff. I have lots of Gene/Jona Chizik quotes to share. We need to do some player scouting reports/evaluations.
And we need to run a Pre-Media Days campfire to make sure our messaging system still works after some offseason tweaks.
We'll get things rolling this afternoon ...
UPDATE: I will be an in-studio guest on WMSP's The Roundtable program this afternoon. Of course it streams on the Interwebs.
posted by Jay G. Tate at
8:35 AM
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order is restored in the universe
Happy Zeke Smith Day to all the Hotties
Welcome back, JGT.
Good morning and happy Monday to you all!
4TH!!!!!!!
to those who missed it, HAPPY ZEKE SMITH DAY, #61!!!!!!!!!
Monday is just another day...but I hate it.
With TarHeels' permission, I would like to give a honorable mention to another #61, Dowe Aughtman. He was no Zeke Smith, but he was a tough as nails nose guard and a senior on the '83 SEC Champions team.
Dowe Aughtman was a man.
Welcome back, JGT. Hope you enjoyed your time away.
War Eagle!
Norm, our dog was attacked by our neighbor's dog last Wed. evening.
Welcome home JG!! THT and others held down the fort but you know this thing doesnt run without you.
As nice as our vacation was at the beach, it is great to be home. Back to work tomorrow. There were so many Georgia fans at PCB and a few of the evil Bama fans that were very easy to identify. I did run across several Auburn fans and they were all very excited with this coaching staff. Can't wait for kickoff! Glad to have you back JGT.
Looks like all the blog is coming back from summer vacations. And 61 days, kickoff will soon be upon us! How great is that, man!
It's official. Lavoyd James to juco.
Luv - that happened at my house about 20 some years ago. Surgery was $7.500+ but he fully recovered. Glad to see yours seems to be on the mend.
I love me some Dowe Aughtman!
Is it me or is 19 out of 28 signess getting into school a low number/percentage. That is only 67% of the class.
Welcome back, Mr. Tate!
Actually I'm not a Gumpian, I'm a Gumryan. A family member as a young child called the capital city "The Gumry." The name stuck with all of us.
While you were gone, Jay, the weather was decent for part of the time. It was hot but low humidity. I'm glad you brought some rain, however. We need it.
War Eagle to all!
UPDATE: I will be doing The Roundtable in studio beginning at ... 12:15ish.
Bag just called. I'll get down there as soon as I can.
LaVoyd James to JUCO is not a surprise.
Do you mean Brewton, Alabama, T. R. Miller alum Dowe Aughtman???
:-)
Yan Cowart
wtc, agreed! seems low.
i thought Cowart was #50. if you have the 'Auburn Experience' book written by P.Marshall they actually have a photo of Cowart instead of Tamburello. dunno how they screwed that up.
In order to get close to a full class,at that pace AU would need to sign Houston Nutt type classes.
I really do not understand that mess. If normal attrition happens the '09 class will be very small by 2013.
Does anyone know how many of the 2004 signing class got into school. (Is that the one that you would look to for this years small SR class?)
Actually, I don't know what Yan's number was. I could ask him I guess. Jet threw out a blast from the past and I thought I would too.
Tamburello is on my list at 55. I'm pretty sure Yann Cowart was 53. Of course, they sometimes changed numbers if the one they wanted wasn't available at first.
my bad Phreddie, i thought you meant he was #61. i had actually printed off that pic of Cowart thinking it was Tamburello b/c it was in the book and sent it to Ben to sign. he signed one pic but not the one of Cowart. :)
you gonna line up Tamburello and Takeo at #55 and see what happens THT?
#53, that's it THT. nice work.
btw, I think Kendall Simmons was 61; let's give him an honorable mention today.
K. Simmons was #73. i've got a nice pic of him if you want me to email it to ya. how about a retroactive honorable mention? i forgot about him on Marcus McNeill day.
wtc, this continues a recent trend of players signing but either not making it into Auburn, or hanging around for a short period of time. The 08 class, as listed by Scout, has already lost the following players:
J Savage
A Wadley
F Smooth
K Adams
C Thompson
M Jemison
R Gray
J Johnson
D Barnes
R Hunt
D Furr
That is 11 out of 28 players already no longer with the team after roughly a year. Obviously, there are different circumstances for the departures(Injuries, transfers,etc) but the end result is a thin roster at several positions. I won't bore everyone by doing the 07 class, but there were several players lost from that class as well. 2 or 3 years of that happening has resulted in the thin roster AU has today. I've got my fingers crossed for a big recruiting year involving players who actually make it in and stay for 3-5 years.
you're absolutely right. I have Simmons on my list at 73 right next to McNeil (I'm such a 'tard). But I'm pretty certain I ran across something this weekend that listed him as a 61, perhaps as a freshman? Can any smart Hotties verify?
Hey, Hotties, I need your prayers for one of my coworkers. Their dog was spooked by people setting off fireworks on Sat. and the dog ran off. She and her husband searched all night and all day yesterday. They have put up fliers and contacted all the vets etc. She has been a wreck today.
done Luv. we locked up Tucker in the garage while we were gone Sat. nite just in case that happened. he got loose a couple weeks ago and luckily a lady saw he had a collar on and called me. hopefully your friend will get a call soon.
not sure THT. i'd have to check an old media guide at home on Simmons' number.
it's almost time for some HABOTN radio. yippee!
Here's my post from ~12 days ago:
Happy Marcus McNeill Day, Hotties!!!
T-minus 73 days until kickoff.
Honorable mention to Kendall Simmons
___________________________
Alzheimer's is an ugly disease. Even if I did see him listed as 61 this weekend, it's sad I can't remember stuff from 12 days ago.
Luv, what kind of dog and where? You're in B'ham area, right?
nice!
here it is, though I have no way of verifying it's accuracy:
#61 Kendall Simmons
It may be listing their NFL jersey numbers.
Scott Chocolate, my coworker lives in Pelham off Hwy 261. Their dog is a yellow lab.
interesting THT. it must be an old freshman number b/c he wore #73 with the Steelers. i'll see what i can find tonite. i love this stuff.
Luv, no match, unfortunately. I live in Hoover and saw a Husky/Malamute type dog running loose in my yard this morning. Normally, I would have put him in my fence and tried to find out who he belongs to, but two weeks ago my neighbor inexplicably decided to tear down the fence that we share on his side. He has done nothing to replace it. Hopefully, that dog and its owner have been reunited by now. Hope your friend finds her dog soon, too.
My 2001 AU/Bama program has Simmons on the cover with #73 on his jersey. I have no memory of this, as I have tried to erase all aspects of that day from my mind.
did we play Bama in 2001? all i remember is the Florida/Damon Duval kick. i have blocked it as well.
Is the sun rising of setting on the front of the blog?
Is that supposed to be some message about the Auburn program?
Please no MJacko talk on HABOTN radio!
Is Jay G. Tate sending the readers a message?
Bright days are coming.
or
The sun is setting on the high times at Auburn.
I hope for the former over the latter.
I think sunsets/sunrises are pretty
Wasn't there a soap opera called, "The Sun Also Sets" or something like that?
Things have gotten rough in Eastern Afghanistan. Please do keep the troops in your prayers.
Every day Aero. Every day.
Absolutely, Aero.
If Josh would record what he says and listen to himself later, I think he'd be shocked at how bad he is.
Phreddie rockin' HABOTN radio.
Alright, my last comment was a bit unfair, Josh isn't "bad" but the argument was getting awfully circular. I also don't think "just because Auburn found success at some point doing the Tub way" doesn't mean they can't be successful. I also think the 2nd class citizen status Josh and others give Auburn is the wrong way for the coaches to think. This is one of the reasons why we had a coaching change.
Is it football season yet?
The 740am online stream is without a doubt the most unreliable and trouble-prone stream of any I ever try to hear. What's the problem? This isn't rocket surgery dudes.
Does Bag really believe what he is saying? It is fun listening to JGT make Bags talk in circles like that.
Sorry for the delayed follow up but that means the 09 class has had a 33& attrition rate (so far) and the 08 class had a 40% rate (so far). WOW.
If you have hte 07 info please list it. I would like ot know. No wonder AU is painfully thin in many positions.
The trend looks to be @36% of those that committed never got there or didn't stay long. you can't build a winner that way.
Watchout WTC, you are upsetting the Steve FC gods. He will be here blasting that point shortly.
I'm not having any problem with the stream, at least the one from the radio. But I just got back from errands and only tuned in about 5-10 minutes ago. This is the first time I've been able to listen to JGT on the radio, albeit briefly. I haven't heard his name mentioned yet. Is he still on? The non-Josh voice?
sweet!
"8-4, 9-3, occasional really good" is definition of a non-upper echelon team, that implies that you must be really good every year to be upper echelon. Since 2000, that pretty much only includes USC, UTx, tOSU.
Where's UF? What, y'all forget Ron Zook that quickly?
When josh acts like Auburn isn't a top 20 program of all time it makes me seriously question his sports knowledge. Add that to the fact that he livesin this state and still questions this really makes me wonder?
Top 15 in wins and win % all time plus number 11 AP All Time playing the hardest schedulein the conference the last 75 years should answer that question pretty easily. Having a winning record over every team except uat and lsu doesn't hurt either. Oh well, there goes my rant.
we're 20-20-1 vs Vandy
Thanks for listening -- those of you who could get the stream going!
You're disagreeing with Josh, Alan. This obviously makes you an Auburn homer.
I'm not sure how he can say Kalvin or Kelvin from ASU doesn't over talk when he's on the show. Except that Josh suffers with Oppositional Defiant Disorder.
Interesting that in 116 years of football, only 11 games vs Big Ten (6-3-2).
I think it's because Big Ten schools won't play us, at least I think Jay Jacobs said something to that effect a year or two ago. Of course, I don't know if that's the reason just recently or throughout football history.
33%? that would mean nine signees didn't make it. Who all?
Reggie Taylor
LaVoyd James
Brandon Jacobs
Darren Bates and Jamar Travis <--- I don't know about them.
We'll just find out eventually when the practices start.
First Ed McMahon, then Farrah, then Michael, then OxiClean guy, then McNair, and now La Parkita...
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,529935,00.html?test=latestnews
WTC
We have had really high attrition the last couple of years. This year though, we are still waiting on Demond Washington and Taikwon Paige to finish a mini session at JC. Both of them will be here. Also, we should hear about Terrance Coleman, Josh Jackson, and Izuae(sp?) Lanier by this week. So far, I think the only sure losses are Reggie Taylor and Lavoyd James.
I think the high number of non-quals we were getting was a huge priority to correct for Chiz and co. Case in point, we pulled a scholly offer for a 4-star linebacker/defensive end (can't remember the name) right before signing day last year because we knew he was going JUCO and I believe Ole Miss signed him. Also the reason we have backed off of Nigel Terrel and the current tide committ Deion Belue for this year. I think there will be a new line taken by this staff on this sort of thing.
Aeronaut
Travis is in for sure. Bates, I don't know. I did not realize he was a question mark.
I thought Jamar Travis was a go.
Alan - perhaps Josh subscribes to these all-time misguided college football rankings, which place Auburn just outside the top twenty at 21, behind the likes of Harvard (20), Yale (19), Pitt (18), Minnehahaha (17) and....drum roll...Princeton (13)
Travis reported to campus 2 weeks ago, per Rivals.
i dunno THT, Minnesota is looking like a powerhouse at #17.
I am reading an article on Durst on Auburn Undercover. I still can't believe that last years Louisiana-Monroe game was his first football game and it was in front of over 80,000 people. Notice it wasn't only his first college football game. It was his first football game period. Simply incredible. I do believe I would have just ped myself, taken a bow, and walked off the field.
fellow gumryians ... dish? if so, who from?
agreed SFC. not too shabby for a Jr. in college.
Phred....sounded good on the radio today bubba.
I know he posts on here and some people like him but as far as radio goes, Josh Moon is as bad as it gets. I would rather listen to John Bammer Longshore than Josh and I CAN NOT STAND to listen to Longshore. At least John makes all of his points with his crimson-colored glasses as his basis. Josh just argues for argument's sake about everything in his best Peter Brady "Time for Change" voice. Montgomery sports talk really sux.
My bad about Travis. I forgot about him.
So .. at the moment we are sure about LaVoyd James and Reggie Taylor going JUCO, and most probably Brandon Jacobs going to MLB.
I think it's too early to say anything about 09's attrition.
A couple of questions:
1. According to some previous calculation, Auburn had room for the entire class strength to enrol (two early enrolees, plus 26ish). According to current info, 23 will come in. What happens to the 3 scholarships (plus possibly more)
2. What about the 3 transfers and 2 medical hardships.. who gets those 5 scholarships?
Aero
I think they are looking hard at 2-3 Juco guys who could finish school in December and count towards last years total. Also, Robert Cooper got one of those schollies.
Another little thing to think about when discussing attrition is that there is a new NCAA rule that requires a certain graduation rate. If you don't make the rate, you lose scholarships.
85 scholarship limit total, and no more than 25 in any given year. So if you sign 28, you've got to renege, or dump some folks currently on scholly, or know in advance at least 3 aren't going to qualify..
SteveFC makes a valid point. There is a little wiggle room by counting some on a prior year's limit, but I'm not sure the rules about that.
If Washington, Paige, Coleman, & Lanier get in then the % obviously changes. Maybe this class can be the 1st step in stopping the previuos trend of high attrition rates.
I've just learned that the Auburn Football Media Guide lists three incorrect game dates in 1901 and 1910. I'm sure it's too late to correct for this year, but now I'm going to be all "Monked" out about it until it is corrected.
Monk final season starts Aug 7, fyi.
Phred -- do you mean satellite dish?
The majority of those "extra" schollies will likely go to guys for the 2010 class. We only have, what, 10 seniors on scholly? We have to have some attrition in order to sign a full(er) class this year.
I like old newspaper stories. Here's the one for the Nov 4, 1901 game between UNC and Auburn (played on a Monday in Auburn) as printed in the Atlanta Constitution the following day.
TARHEELS[sic] DEFEAT AUBURN.
North Carolina Beats Alabama Football Team by a Score of 10 to 0.
Auburn, Ala., November 4 --(Special)--North Carolina scored against Auburn here today 10 to 0. During the first half the play was in Carolina's territory most [of] the time. In second half play was in Auburn's territory. Graves of Carolina won the game by the phenomenal play in kicking goal twice from the 25-yard line, making two scores. The game was scientific in every respect.
I wish they had expanded the article by expounded on the scientific nature of the game.
*expoundING
phred - I think we've had this discussion before. But thanks for bringing it up again. I'm hating our TWC more and more. Now we have black rectangles spontaneously appearing and covering about 20% of the screen.
I hate when people hog the thread with useless drivel.
Thanks Jay!
wtc, sorry so late, here are the 07 losses(again, I went by the Scout commit list):
Brandon Earl
Chris Zinn
Carlton Johnson
Wilfred Journet
Jermaine Johnson
Ryan Williams
Enrique Davis
Tim Lamb
Chris Slaughter
Jonnie Dixon
Bo Harris
That makes 11 out of 30 signees from 07 that are no longer on the roster. Eltoro Freeman and O McCalebb would be 13 if you counted them. Some of these players were assumed to be non-qualifiers, but many of them (J Johnson and E Davis that I remember) were supposedly going to make it into school. Williams, Slaughter, and Bo Harris obviously made it onto campus, but didn't hang around for long.
One more note about recruiting "rankings": I hate the way that a team(not just Auburn) is given credit for signing a player(say Jermaine Johnson) for two straight classes, and he never even dresses out for the team. O McCalebb, E Freeman and N Fairley were also counted in more than one class. The "rankings" would be much more accurate if done in the fall each season, after it becomes clear which players are actually going to make it into school.
Trooper thread up.
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