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9.27.2009

Gene Chizik speaks, 9/27

Hey everyone. Let's boogie.

Opening comment: It's great to be 4-0 at this point in the season. After looking at last night, obvious we were disappointed in a number of things. We've got to go back to work today and continue to improve in a lot of areas.

On coaching against Lane Kiffin (former Southern Cal assistant) in the 2006 Rose Bowl: ``It was a little bit different because we had a few weeks to prepare for it. When we played them years ago, they were one of the best offenses in the history of college football. It's tough. It's tough to prepare for. They did a nice job with it. It seems like it was centuries ago."

Photo credit: Todd Van Emst/Auburn University

On Auburn's win at Tennessee in 2004: ``That was a huge momentum carrier for us. That was really a big away game, momenutum-boost league game. That was a great game all the way around. Special teams. Offense. Defense. It was one of those nights when we were firing on all cylinders."

Is Tennessee's offense the same as Southern Cal?: ``They do some similar things. It's not 100 percent exactly that, but there is some carry-over."

Disappointed with the Ball State game? ``We had sloppy penalties. We had nine. We were sleepwalking at the beginning there somewhat. We score 28, 30 points and then we went back to sloppy football. I didn't like the flow of the game. Those games are tough because you can only win those games one way and have everyone happy. A lot of things could have been much cleaner, executed much cleaner."

On Gabe McKenzie: ``We're trying to see exactly where Gabe can help our football team the most. We'll take that step by step. I'm really proud of Gabe for being unselfish and doing the things we asked him to do."

On being displeased with the Ball State win: ``I'm never displeased with a win. Let me clarify that. I just wish we could have played with more focus. You can't be happy with a game where you have nine penalties - no matter what they were. 4th and 1 at Auburn? You've got to make a first down. That's just what you have to do. I'm very glad to be 4-0? Am I satisfied with the way we played last night? No, I'm not."

On Byron Isom:
``It's something we've got to plan for. We'll continuously work to plan on aration with some guys. Bart is certainly a guy who has been around a long time, has played a lot of football, and he's in the equation."

(Isom, a starter at guard, has been suspended indefinitely for a violation of team rules)

On playing Jamar Travis last night: ``Things happen and we've got to make some tough decisions. Maybe that decision wasn't clear or to the point it is now a month ago. We've got to get through the year. Whoever we have to play to help us win, we're going to do that. Numbers-wise, we're not where we want to be."

On playing Andre Harris last night: ``Andre did play. That was as a backup. Same situation Jamar is in."

On making the decision to pull redshirts: ``It gets hard. There's nowhere else to go. They all know the lay of the land. This might not have been our intent in Game One, but that's where we're at."

On Auburn's defense lagging last night once the first-team guys were pulled: ``I don't care about all that. I've got to get my guys to the next game. When it's a four-touchdown lead, we're not worried about stats. We're worried about next week."

On the phrase Do What We Do: ``There's no real origin of it. Without getting philosophical, when you repeatedly do something, you become a product of … your habits. This is what we do on offense. This is what we do on defense. We're not trying to re-invent the wheel. We've got to do what we've planned to do. Nothing revolutionary. We need to do what we do and do it better when we're not playing well."

On the idea of having a theme each season: ``I like having a theme. I like having something to hang your hat on and go back and refer to."

On Hot Carter: ``He maybe played a little heavy-legged, but he needed to get in there. He needed to get those reps. Rusty, but played hard. He'll get better every game. It was a good test for him in the first game."

On running the Wildcat sans Burns: ``We have other people who definitely can do the wildcat. Kodi is our guy because he brings some potential that other guys don't have."

On the punt-return problems: ``Somebody's just got to step up to the plate. They've got to do it in a game. It's very, very disheartening that we've spent so much time and we can't find somebody to catch the ball."

248 Comments:

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Blogger Tar Heel Tiger said...

I'm working

5:24 PM  
Blogger Tar Heel Tiger said...

the rest of you should be ashamed

5:24 PM  
Blogger WarEagleRK said...

From the previous thread.

Re: Offensive philosophy's impact on the D.

Gulf Shores,

I said the change in philosophy would allow for more points allowed during a season as the D is on the field more.

However, I said the reason we gave up 30 to Ball State is lack of quality depth and the D being put in bad positions to start drives.

However, please feel free to take whatever you want out of what someone wrote.

5:27 PM  
Blogger Tar Heel Tiger said...

Great work, Mr. Tate! Thanks so much for that report. I agree with the Chiz!

5:28 PM  
Blogger FSJ said...

Fifth place.

5:32 PM  
Blogger FSJ said...

before anybody misunderstands..that's my place in this thread.

5:33 PM  
Blogger Tar Heel Tiger said...

So is Gulley a wildcat guy? Can he field a snap?

I'm sure Dontae Aycock would make a great wildcat guy, don't you think, JGT?

I've got to get back to work. See y'all around post 88 if I'm lucky.

5:33 PM  
Blogger cincytiger said...

OK, I am posting this for the third and final time, I promise. We just keep changing threads before I get an answer. Those of you with lots of knowledge of the rules, please look at this.

On the first punt, I think the officials totally missed the call. The same thing happened in the Titans game last week, but the officials got it right. If a fair catch is called, the player has the right to catch the ball even if he muffs it, provided the ball doesn't hit the ground. What am I missing?

SECTION 5. Fair Catch
Dead Where Caught
ARTICLE 1. a. When a Team B player makes a fair catch, the ball becomes dead
where caught and belongs to Team B at that spot.
b. When a valid fair catch signal is made, the unimpeded opportunity to catch
a free or scrimmage kick is extended to a player who muffs the kick and still
has an opportunity to complete the catch. This protection terminates when the
kick touches the ground. If the player subsequently catches the kick, the ball is
placed where it was first touched) (A.R. 6-5-1-I-IV).

5:33 PM  
Blogger FSJ said...

Hightower out for the season with a knee ligament tear.

5:35 PM  
Blogger Hoopie-sittin' on G said...

FSJ....you're just a hater....in fact, I suspect you are a Bammer.

5:36 PM  
Blogger FSJ said...

Without seeing what happened cincy.....

what if the ball hit the Auburn guy's shoulder pad and bounced forward toward the opponent on punt coverage?

I would assume the coverage guy has as much right to the ball without regard to whether it hit the ground or not.

5:37 PM  
Blogger Tar Heel Tiger said...

Cincy- the refs just blew it. Blown calls in our games this year have been a constant theme, just like our inability to catch punts.

5:37 PM  
Blogger Hoopie-sittin' on G said...

Cincy...seems like the refs blew it. Nice work.

Cincy, this is responding to your post on the last thread....I'm thinkin the UT game is a tossup. I think that we will beat Ark. My preseason pick was 6-7 wins and as many as 8 if everything went great. Conversely, if we had a few too many injuries,only 5 wins was possible. If we don't have injuries and the OL can adjust to losing Isom, 6-8 wins now look realistic.

Steve..the UT D is much better than the MSU D that we played.

5:38 PM  
Blogger LGGByron said...

The '83 Iron Bowl is on ESPN Classic right now :P

5:39 PM  
Blogger GulfShoresTiger said...

RK,
Sorry, I missed your larger point. Hopefully, our depth will improve with another year of recruiting.

5:40 PM  
Blogger LGGByron said...

They're showing as part of the "Bustin' Loose" Marathon.

5:40 PM  
Blogger cincytiger said...

FAJ,
That is what happened in the Titans game. The returner signaled a fair catch, it hit his hands and he juggled it, the ball bounced into the defender's chest and he ran it in for a touchdown. The officials waved it off and said if you signaled for a fair catch, you had the right to the ball until it hit the ground. Think about it, if they have signaled for a fair catch all their attention is on the ball, not the defender. They have the right to the ball until it hits the ground. Or that is the way they explained it at the Titans game and the way I read the rulebook??

5:40 PM  
Blogger Hoopie-sittin' on G said...

JGT..help me out. CGC said the following regardoing the Isom question: "We'll continuously work to plan on aration with some guys. Bart is certainly a guy who has been around a long time, has played a lot of football, and he's in the equation."

What is the definition of the word "aration"? Also, when CGC says "Bart", is he referring to Eddins? and does he mean Eddins to replace Isom instead of Sullen that started last night?

5:45 PM  
Blogger IV said...

Cincy,

I believe you have the fair catch rule figured out and you are correct.

5:47 PM  
Blogger LGGByron said...

Wow, glad they don't use the fuzzy color chain markers anymore, looks like a hippy worm.

5:47 PM  
Blogger Loganville Tiger said...

War-RK - You have stated it to a tee!! Not many realize the fast pace of out O with more snaps also equals more snaps (hopefully not as many) for out D. Fist 4 D linemen on the fiels are horses, a few of the subs can hold their own. But after that we are Green as as Gourd. Beauty is playing the young'uns will pay off in future games and definitely in the years to come.

LT

5:47 PM  
Blogger Loganville Tiger said...

Sorry - spell check ain't working of this 'puter and the last post is discombobulated.

5:48 PM  
Blogger Loganville Tiger said...

Did I spell discombobulated right?

5:49 PM  
Blogger WarEagleRK said...

No comment on Burns and McCalebb I assume.

5:51 PM  
Blogger LGGByron said...

All I know is that I hate that I missed the '60s, missed my chance to beat up a hippie. I could always go to San Francisco, but its just not the same. :P

5:51 PM  
Blogger WarEagleRK said...

Cincy,

The ball hit the ground on that 1st punt.

In the Titans game last week it never hit the ground, it bounced to someone.

5:52 PM  
Blogger IV said...

I was in the 60s. Had a chance to beat up a hippie. Thank goodness, before I did, I decided it wasn't worth the possible consequences.

5:54 PM  
Blogger Loganville Tiger said...

That was ME - IV - Thanks for the pass....

5:55 PM  
Blogger IV said...

Loganville,

I don't think so. Were you involved in the peace marches in or around Selma or the Gump?

5:57 PM  
Blogger Loganville Tiger said...

No IV - I was the one sitting in the alley rollin' one saying - Aaahh Cooool

6:01 PM  
Blogger LGGByron said...

IV- Good to someone who has sense, due to genetics I only was able to recieve half of MrsTHTs common sense, what THT gave me seems to be lacking in the common sense department.

6:01 PM  
Blogger IV said...

Byron,

I ain't touching your comment. THT had enough common sense to be an Auburn Tiger. That speaks volumes to me.

6:05 PM  
Blogger Unusually Optimistic jhag said...

We have GOT to beat UT this game is like a season definer IMO

6:05 PM  
Blogger LGGByron said...

That was mostly do to family pressure, he wanted to go to UNC :P

6:06 PM  
Blogger IV said...

You would be correct in my opinion jhag.

6:06 PM  
Blogger LGGByron said...

I'm hoping for a repeat of the last time we played at UT, the headlights of the Rocky Top Faithful leaving at halftime.

6:07 PM  
Blogger IV said...

Byron,

But he didn't; therefore, good common sense.

6:07 PM  
Blogger LGGByron said...

they were also predicting an AU loss in that game, and look how it turned out :P

6:08 PM  
Blogger LGGByron said...

Good point IV :P

6:08 PM  
Blogger LGGByron said...

I'm missing Al Del Greco, just because his name sounds so awesome.

6:10 PM  
Blogger Tar Heel Tiger said...

EXCUSE ME!?!?!

I did NOT want to go to UNC. My parents tried to talk me into going to UNC. I wanted to go to AU and, being blessed with enough common sense and book smarts to do so, I did.

6:10 PM  
Blogger LGGByron said...

Sure THT we believe ya :P Don't make me bring up the UNC beanie incident.

6:12 PM  
Blogger LGGByron said...

Or the TV cord incident.

6:13 PM  
Blogger LGGByron said...

I miss the kick-off touchbacks :( we just booted the ball about 10 yards out the back of the endzone.

6:15 PM  
Blogger cincytiger said...

WERK,
The ball DID NOT touch the ground before the defender touched it. Gulley bobbled it, the defender hit the ball and then it hit the ground where the defender recovered it. Gulley was not allowed an unimpeded chance to catch the fair catch signaled ball.

6:17 PM  
Blogger cincytiger said...

Just found out that Direct TV removed ESPN Classic when they added ESPNU. Called DTV and they said ESPN made that decision.

6:18 PM  
Blogger cincytiger said...

The Bengals just beat the Steelers on a 4th and goal touchdown and 2 point conversion with 30 seconds left in the game. Go Cincy!!

6:20 PM  
Blogger WarEagleRK said...

Cincy,

I've watched football since I was a little kid, and I've never seen that rule inforced until last week vs the Titans.

It doesn't make it right, but I bet a lot of refs have no idea of that rule either.

Either way, we can't afford to leave the play in the refs hands like that, we just need to catch the ball.

6:22 PM  
Blogger Loganville Tiger said...

How about a HIGH FIvE to LT for winning his first 5 team parlay of the year!!!! Down to $40 bucks in my off-shore - Chicago scoring late pulled it out. I'm GOLDEN for the year.

Sorry to get off topic......

Did I tell you that I.......

6:23 PM  
Blogger cincytiger said...

WERK,
You are totally right about that. WE have to make the plays. It was just so weird that it happened in the Titans game, we were talking about it earlier in the day, and then it happened in our game.

P.S. I totally stunk up my picks this week!

6:26 PM  
Blogger LGGByron said...

Doug Smith was a beast.

6:28 PM  
Blogger WarEagleRK said...

Never leave the game in the refs hands...if you do you job, then you shouldn't have to worry about it being decided by the refs judgement.

We do have to fix these special teams problems...Knoxville and Fayettville won't be as forgiving as what we've seen.

6:28 PM  
Blogger Tar Heel Tiger said...

Doug Smith was from Bayboro, NC, near Pamlico Sound. He played for Pat Dye at ECU, had enough sense not to follow him to Wyoming, and had even better sense to follow him to Auburn.

6:29 PM  
Blogger LGGByron said...

He was actually from Mesic. And the deluge has started to come down, and MrsTHT is determined to show me where she sat.

6:33 PM  
Blogger Tar Heel Tiger said...

right next to me!

6:36 PM  
Blogger D. Miller said...

I want someone to ask Chiz to explain what Boulware has done to this point to earn his paycheck.

6:46 PM  
Blogger NoVaTiger said...

I'd forgotten what a nasty place Legion Field was (and I assume still is).

6:49 PM  
Blogger D. Miller said...

Wow! The Seahawks uni's are worse than anything Oregon has worn!!

That is awful!

6:52 PM  
Blogger Peter "Big Snacks" Frankenschmidt said...

Cincy's right. Anyone that disagrees with her, even with good reasoning, is wrong...I think.

6:52 PM  
Blogger NoVaTiger said...

UT may have a better defense than we've seen, but I still don't see them holding this offense under 30. I don't see their impotent offense scoring that many.

It won't be pretty but I predict an AU win.

Now the shootout with Arkansas concerns me, but I'll worry about that later.

6:53 PM  
Blogger Peter "Big Snacks" Frankenschmidt said...

Speaking of stinking up picks, Cincy, I went from First(beat you in tiebreakers, apparently, cause my score is in green) to worst (not counting the three non-pickers). I'm ashamed. Very, Very ashamed....not really, those games were tough. I'm still suprised with 12 of them.

6:54 PM  
Blogger Wakeriderof87 said...

What was that website where you could see who all of the AP voters ballots?

6:59 PM  
Blogger Loganville Tiger said...

Legion Field was a DUMP when I went in the 70's/80's and still is. I had to do an engineering survey 4 years ago across the street from their in the Historical Homes (on the national historical register) - ie projects. I wore a jacket with a 45 ACP on my hip sweating like a pig.

7:00 PM  
Blogger Peter "Big Snacks" Frankenschmidt said...

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7:06 PM  
Blogger Peter "Big Snacks" Frankenschmidt said...

pollspeak.com

7:06 PM  
Blogger Wakeriderof87 said...

Thanks PF

7:08 PM  
Blogger Wakeriderof87 said...

Auburn is 26th in the Harris Poll

7:09 PM  
Blogger Peter "Big Snacks" Frankenschmidt said...

45 ACP? That's some serious heat for an engineer.

7:10 PM  
Blogger cincytiger said...

Did you know that if you have a wireless keyboard there is a battery in your mouse that has to be changed? Somehow that escaped me all these years. Couldn't figure out why my keyboard wouldn't work!

7:12 PM  
Blogger Peter "Big Snacks" Frankenschmidt said...

battery in the mouse needs to be changed for the keyboard? Mine have seperate batteries that don't effect one another. I don't understand the concept.

7:14 PM  
Blogger Loganville Tiger said...

I took the Little One.... My 10MM is the one for tough times....

LOL

7:14 PM  
Blogger Loganville Tiger said...

Not ALL engineers pack only pocket protectors.

7:16 PM  
Blogger Loganville Tiger said...

When does the Legends poll kick off?

I put more stock in it than the coach's poll.

7:18 PM  
Blogger cincytiger said...

Yeah, there is a receiver for the mouse and keyboard, but the battery that controls both is in the mouse. Go figure. Just glad I figured it out before I bought a new keyboard.

7:20 PM  
Blogger Peter "Big Snacks" Frankenschmidt said...

Those aren't too different, are they? 10MM is more likely to pierce armour, but the 45 is gonna leave a bigger hole. Either way, what are you trying to drop? A thug or a lion?

7:20 PM  
Blogger Peter "Big Snacks" Frankenschmidt said...

Legends poll was active last week. Maybe before. It's not much better. WVU got votes after Auburn beat them, but Auburn received zero. The rest pretty much looked like the AP.

7:21 PM  
Blogger Peter "Big Snacks" Frankenschmidt said...

Ah, I see, Cincy. Glad you figured it out.

7:22 PM  
Blogger Loganville Tiger said...

Your right Peter, 45 ACP will rock your world cause it is slow. 10MM will go through metal - even more so than a 357 - I've seen it - to the chagrin of a friend that lost a bet for same.

7:28 PM  
Blogger AU1N04 said...

J Powers starting for Indy D

7:37 PM  
Blogger Peter "Big Snacks" Frankenschmidt said...

Please don't let him cover Boldin in the endzone. I love Powers, but I don't trust him against Boldin, and my Fantasy football team needs him held to less than 30 points.

7:43 PM  
Blogger FSJ said...

The Legends Poll is interesting this week.

I like the way Coach Dye votes.

Coach Stallings needs to get on board. :-)

7:53 PM  
Blogger cincytiger said...

Anyone on here in the banking or mortgage business? We are exploring some creative options for financing a condo in Auburn and I wanted to see if anyone had any ideas.

We own a house in Birmingham plus a student condo in Auburn, both with no mortgage, so qualifying shouldn't be a problem. Our plan is to sell the student condo in Auburn. Just wanted to see if anyone had any creative ideas about the best way to do this.

7:54 PM  
Blogger §teveFC said...

Cincy, I reviewed that call on the muffed punt again today. It was a good call. I didn't see it during the game, but looking closely the ball bounced off Gulley and in to the hands of the defensive player. I thought the defensive player hit Gulley while he was juggling it, but that wasn't the case. The ball had already left his arms and hit the defensive guy.

8:05 PM  
Blogger §teveFC said...

FSJ, sorry to hear about Hightower. I saw the play and it wasn't a dirty short, but it was an ugly hit. I can't see them making it illegal because if he hit him higher or lower he would have likely been fine. It is just troubling to see someone hit directly on the knee cap. I imagine even players try to avoid something like that.

8:07 PM  
Blogger §teveFC said...

Hoopie, that UT D had issues with Ohio. They are not nearly as impressive as I thought and notice how MSU shut Vandy down and nearly took out LSU. They are nothing to sneeze at.

8:09 PM  
Blogger Tar Heel Tiger said...

SteveFC, I believe that is Cincy's point. Until the ball hits the GROUND, the receiver has sole property rights to it on a fair catch.

8:11 PM  
Blogger Tar Heel Tiger said...

I've got to get back to work... just one more thing...

8:11 PM  
Blogger Tar Heel Tiger said...

BEASLEY!!!

8:11 PM  
Blogger Peter "Big Snacks" Frankenschmidt said...

Steve,

The defensive guy can't touch it until it hits the ground. He's got to get clear of the ball and let the receiver catch it or let it hit the ground. Them's the rules...

8:12 PM  
Blogger Tar Heel Tiger said...

we're very lucky we didn't lose TZach to a blown knee near the AU sideline. His foot was planted and defender's head crashed into TZach's knee. Fortunately, it didn't buckle and defender got concussed.

ok, now back to work.

8:14 PM  
Blogger WarEagleRK said...

Steve,

UT fans are probably looking at our stats and scores saying and saying "that Auburn D had issues with Ball State. They are not nearly as impressive as I thought"

How teams play against schools they know they can beat is a lot different than how they will play against a team they HAVE to beat.

8:15 PM  
Blogger WarEagleRK said...

We will score against UT's D, but they will slow us down and they will limit our chances more than any of the 4 teams we've played so far.

8:16 PM  
Blogger coosa said...

Hoopie, you still around tonight? You said that it was realistic for us to win 6-8 games, and included an "if" with it? I forgot what the "if" was.

We've already won 4, and still have Furman to go. You think its realistic that this team will win only one more game?

I can agree with you on 8, but winning only 6 at this point would require a total meltdown. Not saying it can't happen, but sure seems unlikely to me.

8:27 PM  
Blogger §teveFC said...

RK, Ohio was in the game until late. They weren't playing backups. The UT defense is not as impressive as one might think. Watch their game against Florida or against Ohio and you get the same conclusion. Florida's offense isn't that great this season and UT gave up over 300 yards in a clock burning game. UTs offense had somewhere around 200 yards. UT has a good defense, no doubt, but they are overrated. Their pass coverage looked lacking against Ohio, even with Eric Berry out there.

8:28 PM  
Blogger §teveFC said...

I assume the ball hitting another player or the ref is just like it hitting the ground. If the ball bounces and hits a player, even though it bounced off the receiver, the player who gets hit has to have a right to it. If not, that would be pretty bizarre.

8:29 PM  
Blogger Peter "Big Snacks" Frankenschmidt said...

Auburn is in Sports Illustrate's mock 16 team playoff current standings. We'd be a 16 seed playing Florida if the season ended today. Of course, the season doesn't end today, there are no playoffs, and the polls that would determine such hypothetical playoffs would not be made up of SI writers, but it's fun to feel the love.

8:32 PM  
Blogger Unusually Optimistic jhag said...

Beat UT

8:35 PM  
Blogger §teveFC said...

This is a game similar to the Ball State and MSU games. I would like to see a bit more FAH early and then a steady does of Tate/Smith in the second and third. FAH runs wild in the fourth. I also want to see us get the ball first.

8:36 PM  
Blogger Peter "Big Snacks" Frankenschmidt said...

Steve,

Your assumpitons are just making up parts of the rule that don't exist. The rule is pretty clear about the ground, not other objects in the vicinity. The NFL rule is nearly identical, and a nearly identical play got called back, so I'd say that if you feel that way, this would be a bizarre rule in your book. I just say we got screwed.

8:36 PM  
Blogger §teveFC said...

By rule the refs are the same thing as the field.

8:38 PM  
Blogger Peter "Big Snacks" Frankenschmidt said...

Other players are not.

8:39 PM  
Blogger §teveFC said...

That is where we differ

8:39 PM  
Blogger Peter "Big Snacks" Frankenschmidt said...

...and a ref in the way of a fair catch being fielded would need to be beheaded.


Speaking of refs in the way, there was a game this weekend, I don't remember who, where a ref went ape$h!* when he got pushed by a blitzing linebacker trying to anticipate the snap count. Did anyone see this? I don't understand why the ref was in a two point stance in the place where a nosetackle would be in the first place, but the LB was running up and bumped into him, sending him falling into the center. I was sure he was gonna take a swing at the LB as he got up yelling and flexing.

8:42 PM  
Blogger §teveFC said...

This press conference seems to have been one of Chizik's more interesting. It actually made me think the 30 points scored by BSU is a help in a way. I am sure the players are getting a mouth full about that.

8:43 PM  
Blogger Peter "Big Snacks" Frankenschmidt said...

how do you figure another player would be equal to the field. You can roll off another player and still not be considered down. Balls are not dead when they bounce of random feet, helmets, etc. I can't think of a single scenario where player=field.

8:44 PM  
Blogger Unusually Optimistic jhag said...

I am scared of Saturday night

8:44 PM  
Blogger §teveFC said...

Refs getting in the way aren't so uncommon, although I don't recall seeing it on a fair catch. One of the things you do see is players using the refs as in pseudo pick plays. It is hard to for a ref to call himself for an illegal pick.

8:47 PM  
Blogger §teveFC said...

I am nervous about Saturday too. If we execute offensively, I feel confident, but we have been great in terms of turnover margin. I hope our luck holds. In watching Tennessee, it looks like they can be pretty generous on offense.

8:49 PM  
Blogger Unusually Optimistic jhag said...

They are gonna run ALL over us

8:50 PM  
Blogger FSJ said...

Eh..don't worry..

Auburn won't have the great offensive stats but will have more than enough to win.

I see a 21-17 type game.

8:52 PM  
Blogger michael said...

I was much more scared of W Va than UT. Their offense is soooooo bad. Ball St's O is probably better.

8:52 PM  
Blogger Unusually Optimistic jhag said...

But our defense is soooooooooooooo bad

8:53 PM  
Blogger michael said...

I think this UT team is the same as last year's UT team. It is pretty clear Auburn is better. I am not saying we can't lose, but I would be pretty surprised.

8:54 PM  
Blogger Peter "Big Snacks" Frankenschmidt said...

You didn't answer my question. We agree on the ref part.

But I know refs get in the way. My fav was last year when the ref forarmed the SC RB.

I was just saying that there would be no logical reason for a ref to have a ball hit him on a muffed fair catch unless he was just not paying attention. I think refs who don't pay attention should be beheaded. Anyway, that's probably never happened.

8:54 PM  
Blogger §teveFC said...

I don't think our offense is bad at all. Which players do you have problems with, jhag?

8:54 PM  
Blogger michael said...

I wouldn't call them sooooo bad. Just an average D. They are not elite.

I would say a horrible D could hold UT under 20 pts.

8:55 PM  
Blogger §teveFC said...

I meant I don't believe our defense is bad at all. I actually like it except for one linebacker spot and depth at linebacker. I am curious what other players are so concerning to the people that worry about our defense.

8:55 PM  
Blogger auforme said...

I would love to pick Pat Dye's brain on his ballot for the legends poll. Interesting... UAT #1? They look good, but so do Florida and Texas.

8:55 PM  
Blogger auforme said...

Maybe that's why I don't get to vote in a poll. My bias comes out too much.

8:56 PM  
Blogger §teveFC said...

Florida's offense hasn't looked nearly as good this season. They are relying way to much on Tebow running the ball. A top notch defense will shut Florida down unless they develop some other skill players, particularly at WR.

8:57 PM  
Blogger wtc said...

Cincy is correct in her interpretation of the fair catch rule. Gulley could have bobbled it all the way to the 50 yard line an he is the ONLY one that has a right to the ball if he signaled a fair catch. He he is hit it is a penalty and if the ball is snatched from the air, it is down there. End of discussion., Nothing else matters period.
The refs got it wrong. Over. Move along.

8:58 PM  
Blogger §teveFC said...

And I do think this Alabama team has the potential to be much better than last season.

8:58 PM  
Blogger michael said...

Here is what I don't get about our D: we knew the other O's stats would go up thanks to our O and the inherent loss in time of possession, but our D is struggling the most earl in games. This tells me the problem isn't that we are thin are that we are running and uptempo offense, but we are gameplanning poorly or the players are just not starting off with their heads in the game. Our D coaches need to do a better job of predicting what the offenses will exploit instead of adjusting to it. I know that is easier said than done, but the old staff did that quite well. Of course, we all know how poor they were at making midgame adjustments.

8:59 PM  
Blogger wtc said...

BTW-That kid that had the late hit on the sidelines last night. His grand dad's name rolls on the big TV each week as some that has given over $1 mil to AU. One of the buildings is named after him. John H Watson fieldhouse. The kid is Watson Downs.
SO money does do something for you.

9:00 PM  
Blogger michael said...

Alabama looks like #1 to me. Beat a really good team soundly, has methodically worn every team they have played down. They are the one team on our schedule that I am like, "How on earth do we win that game?"

9:00 PM  
Blogger §teveFC said...

That is a good point Michael, although we have helped the offenses out with our kicking game early and the turnover early that we gave to Ball State.

9:00 PM  
Blogger §teveFC said...

wtc, the punt returner was not hit until the ball hit the player from another team. Discussion over.

9:01 PM  
Blogger wtc said...

Somone on the last post asked how recruiting went last night. For those that don't care, skip this post.

It is common knowledge now that the big OL decommitted from fSU last night. He says his recruitment is now open. Good news for AU. Nothing else happened. AU had ALOT of junior athletes in. Next big weekend is not until the Ole Miss game.

9:02 PM  
Blogger Unusually Optimistic jhag said...

So Steve you don't think giving up 500+ yards to WVU is bad or 30 points? or 30 to Ball State

9:04 PM  
Blogger §teveFC said...

That recruit was Ed Christan, a 4 star offensive tackle. I hope we get him. Things look good. With FSU laying an egg, we are in good position. I believe we are the only teams going after him at the moment.

9:04 PM  
Blogger AUfan said...

Hate to see Harris and Travis lose their redshirt, but I don't think coaches go out of their way to redshirt players today as much as they did in the past. Looks like the coaches have decided some more players are needed on both the OL and DL.

Jay, any idea why T Zachery is not given a shot at returning kicks? Fear of losing him to injury, perhaps?

9:04 PM  
Blogger FSJ said...

Ok..let's play "Caption that pic..."

Uh Oh

9:05 PM  
Blogger Unusually Optimistic jhag said...

Keep in mind New Hampshire held BSU to 16 points...you can say it was against our 2nd 3rd stringers

BUT shouldnt they be better then New Hampshire's starters? work with me here

9:05 PM  
Blogger wtc said...

Steve-Glad you made our point. The other team had NO right to the ball. he HAS to give way.
Thank you for admitting we are right on this one.

9:06 PM  
Blogger Peter "Big Snacks" Frankenschmidt said...

Discussion over?

9:06 PM  
Blogger §teveFC said...

I don't think we played well against WV early. As for 30 meaningless points to Ball State, who cares. Our starting defense wasn't on the field most of the game. That is a big whoopie and actually them scoring 30 may have been a good thing in terms of motivating players.

9:06 PM  
Blogger §teveFC said...

wtc, sorry but the discusson was already over so your last point didn't count.

9:06 PM  
Blogger Peter "Big Snacks" Frankenschmidt said...

hmmm, didn't look at it that way Jhag. You may be on to something. We need New Hampshire transfers. Stat!

9:08 PM  
Blogger Unusually Optimistic jhag said...

I'll post this again Steve...read carefully


Keep in mind New Hampshire held BSU to 16 points...
you can say that it was against our 2nd and 3rd stringers

BUT shouldnt they be better then New Hampshire's starters? work with me here

9:09 PM  
Blogger AUfan said...

wtc, I appreciate the recruiting update. Have you heard any news on Dale Trimble, a DB from Gadsden, Al?

9:09 PM  
Blogger wtc said...

Ok, what's next?

9:10 PM  
Blogger michael said...

W Va we be the hardest O we go against all year. I believe that. And they got about 75 yards or so at the end of each half in trash time.

Ball St... that game troubled me more. But they did have a ton of turnovers the first couple of games, and that is killer for an offense. I still think the D is good enough for us to win a lot of games. But yeah, I am worried.

But UT? UT???? They are soooooo bad on offense.

9:10 PM  
Blogger cincytiger said...

I still need a banker or mortgage broker. I can't believe we don't have any on this blog!

9:11 PM  
Blogger michael said...

FSJ - my caption for your picture:

"Ryan Mallet learns the hard way why Coach Petrino told his players before the game never to engage in a game of leap frog with Terrence Cody"

9:12 PM  
Blogger Unusually Optimistic jhag said...

"W Va we be the hardest O we go against all year. I believe that."
Oh dear

9:12 PM  
Blogger WarEagleRK said...

I agree with Steve for once.

I seriously don't think the 30 points were that big of a deal.

It wasn't like the game was in question.

I guarantee our back ups are better than the starters at New Hampshire...NH just had more to play for in their game.

After an emotional come from behind win the week before and playing a cupcake in Ball State, our team took them lightly and up 40-10 the intensity was gone.

If somehow of offense reverted back to last year on Saturday vs Ball State, we wouldn't have given up 30, because the intensity would have been a lot different.

9:13 PM  
Blogger FSJ said...

AUfan..

I know he was in Tuscaloosa for a game. Don't know how hard he is being recruited.

I watched GCHS a few weeks ago and came away more impressed with their fullback.

9:13 PM  
Blogger wtc said...

The big OL that visited in 6'5" 280lbs. Syas he loved the visit and may make a decision on his next visit for the Kentucky game. Of course if he does commit that means he could drop us for another later just like he di fSu, but if AU gets him, that is a big feather in the cap.

9:13 PM  
Blogger §teveFC said...

No, they shouldn't be better than the New Hampshire starters. When you get inexperienced players in the game, they make mistakes. Even with that being said, if you look at how they scored, a lot was given to them by our special teams and a gift of a pass from Caudle. I have no concern with our starting defense or our secondary. I do have a little concern on the defensive line because UT has a solid offensive line. I still am concerned with Eltoro as a starter at linebacker. I am sure the coaches have seen more than I, but so far I would prefer Adam Herring. As for depth at linebacker, it is scary thin. We have played around 7 linebackers, but until recently I couldn't even name most of them. Gaston, Evans, Christopher, and Humphries are all terribly inexperienced.

9:14 PM  
Blogger Unusually Optimistic jhag said...

Cmon Auburn fans lets not get delusional our Defense is bottom tier in the SEC right now

9:14 PM  
Blogger Unusually Optimistic jhag said...

§teveFC said...
No, they shouldn't be better than the New Hampshire starters.







WOW

9:15 PM  
Blogger Peter "Big Snacks" Frankenschmidt said...

Anyone think the Braves can pull out a miracle and make up 2.5 games with 7 games to go? I see the Rockies going 3-3 in their upcoming series against the Brewers (in Denver) and Dodgers (in LA). That would mean the Braves would need to go 6-1 vs the Nationals and Marlins, all at home to force a one game playoff at Turner Field. That very well could happen.

9:15 PM  
Blogger WarEagleRK said...

Our D is an average D that is forced to be on the field a lot longer than most D's because our offense gets off the field so quickly.

9:16 PM  
Blogger WarEagleRK said...

Big Snacks,

I'd like to see it happen. If only the Braves had brought Tommy Hanson up at the start of the year instead of mid season...

9:17 PM  
Blogger §teveFC said...

I am just guessing, but I suspect we look real attractive to Christian. We obviously lack a lot in terms of depth on the offensive line. Come 2011, there is a lot of playing time available there and there is a potential for some next season too, with McCain gone. Also, the kid is from Georgia, so he would be reasonably close to home, although I haven't checked his hometown.

9:17 PM  
Blogger Unusually Optimistic jhag said...

I pray for it every night peter

9:17 PM  
Blogger wtc said...

AUfan-AU is not really pursuing him from what i have heard. They have others on the list they really, really want. I think they take only two more and Akeem Cunningham is one they are looking at really hard. In fact, the 4* kid form ARk that decommitted from Neb. has all but begged for an official visit and AU is hesitant on him. Go figure. They must like who they have.

9:18 PM  
Blogger michael said...

Who will be harder for us to defend that W Va jhag? They shredded us worse than anyone else than last year, so there is precedence. We are not good at tackling the scat backs and mobile QBs. They had the most mobile QB and best scat back of anyone we will face. We have had a good pass rush in every game, but when you can't tackle the QB, it is neutralized.

So it is definitely not out of the question that, match up wise, they were the worst offense for us to face.

9:18 PM  
Blogger Peter "Big Snacks" Frankenschmidt said...

Is Cody trying to be Bam Bam Bigelow?

9:19 PM  
Blogger AUfan said...

FSJ, I have never seen him play, I just happened to sit next to some relatives of his at Auburn's A-Day. He has some relation to Carnell Williams, and a family member said he was very interested in Auburn, and they seemed very high on him. I know things can change in recruiting though, I have not heard his name mentioned with Auburn in some time.

9:20 PM  
Blogger §teveFC said...

RK, I would better characterize our defense as above average in terms of starter, but definitely below average in terms of depth. Our defense was outstanding last season, but got worn down. That is my concern with Tennessee is them wearing our defense down, particularly at linebacker, with their running game. Also, they are playing both Bryce Brown and David Oku. I didn't realize Oku was playing anywhere other than on special teams, but he was in at receiver at times against Ohio. Throw in Hardesty and they aren't going to have any problems with depth at tailback. We definitely have issues with depth at linebacker.

9:20 PM  
Blogger michael said...

jhag - I would agree we are on the bottom tier of SEC defenses right now. However, if you look around, you will find the bottom tier is much bigger than normal, including the likes of Arkansas and LSU.

9:20 PM  
Blogger wtc said...

Braves? I wish they could make it, but I think the Marlins will deny them. Too bad. They have the pitching but not the hitting, up and down the lineup, this year.

9:21 PM  
Blogger WarEagleRK said...

Seriously, this New Hampshire talk is crazy.

NH is a 1-AA team who was in a close game with a team they were told they couldn't beat...the intensity is a bit different than reserves being brought in on 40-10 game where you know you are going to win.

9:21 PM  
Blogger michael said...

I really need a good game from Larry Fitzgerald tonight, and he is coming up empty. Pick it up, Larry!

9:22 PM  
Blogger WarEagleRK said...

The Braves need to dump Garrett Anderson and add a slugger to the middle of the lineup.

The rest of the team is pretty good and the pitching should be stellar next year.

9:22 PM  
Blogger Peter "Big Snacks" Frankenschmidt said...

We're worried about Oku now? Holmes has 42 yards in 4 games.

9:23 PM  
Blogger AUfan said...

wtc, thanks for the info. I appreciate seeing some specific names on players being actively recruited. Things look promising on the recruiting front for AU.

9:24 PM  
Blogger §teveFC said...

Oku isn't playing runningback typically. Bryce and Hardesty are handling that. But should one of those go down, they just reload with Oku.

9:24 PM  
Blogger wtc said...

About the defense.

The 30 points was disappointing. I think it hurts AU in the minds of voters and everyone else that did not see the game. That is where it hurts the most. AU shouls not, no matter who they have on the team, give up 30 to Ball St. Do you recall the 1st teamers having to go back after the interception? The game was in hand until then. the 1st team held them to a FG, I think, but look at what could have happened, injury wise.

9:24 PM  
Blogger WarEagleRK said...

Not worried about Oku, but I think Hardesty and Brown will get some yardage on us... a whole lot of yardage if we tackle like we did early on vs WVU.

9:24 PM  
Blogger Peter "Big Snacks" Frankenschmidt said...

Why are we talking about him. Holmes has 42 yards in 4 games. If we're worried about his catches, he has 2. In 4 games. For 13 yards. We're talking about Oku? Ahhhhggghhghhhh.


Bryce Brown is a bad man, though.

9:26 PM  
Blogger Unusually Optimistic jhag said...

Who will be harder for us to defend that W Va jhag?

Well considering WVU only had 438 and 33 points against LIBERTY (1-AA)
WE gave up 30 points and 515 yards.

Then they had 509 yards on ECU and 35 points...

PLUS the QB threw us the ball 4 or 5 times? SEC QB's wont do that...


IMO

Arkansas
Alabama
Ole Miss (they will be ready to go by the time OCT 31st comes around)
possibly LSU if Scott freaks our

9:26 PM  
Blogger WarEagleRK said...

We just played sloppy last night. It happens.

We won't play with that lack of intensity in Knoxville.

9:26 PM  
Blogger BigEZ said...

LSU fourth...uh...uh...really?...uh... and we can't break top 25. I officially don't understand and hate the college football system. No one can give me one good reason...nevermind.

9:27 PM  
Blogger §teveFC said...

This recruiting class doesn't look great yet, but there is a lot of potential there. Most of our 3 stars are on the edge of being 4 stars, so the stars are misleading to look at and could definitely change, although that obviously doesn't change how good they truly are. Should we get a couple of high rated offensive linemen and one of the big 3 runningbacks, I will be very happy. I am wondering if Eric Mack could end up on the plains.

9:27 PM  
Blogger WarEagleRK said...

jhag,

I'd hate to see you when you aren't unusually optimistic!

9:27 PM  
Blogger §teveFC said...

I am guessing LSU will end up 4th in the west, so that is truly ironic.

Interestingly enough, I have read where South Carolina has a top notch defense that shut down Ole Nutt, but Georgia sure did make the look bad.

9:28 PM  
Blogger Unusually Optimistic jhag said...

WarEagleRK said...
Seriously, this New Hampshire talk is crazy.

NH is a 1-AA team who was in a close game with a team they were told they couldn't beat...the intensity is a bit different than reserves being brought in on 40-10 game where you know you are going to win.


NO NO NO...they are a 1-AA team, our worst players should be as good as their best players.
AND as a reserve being brought into a game against BALL STATE!?!?
you are going to play as hard as you can to get more playing time.

9:28 PM  
Blogger Unusually Optimistic jhag said...

Yeah just one of those days RK haha

9:29 PM  
Blogger wtc said...

ANybody know what is wrong with Vance Smith. he did not dress out for the game.

9:29 PM  
Blogger michael said...

Some other teams may very well put up bigger numbers than W Va against us, but that will be because they actually have real defenses. Place W Va's O on LSU, Ole Miss, Arkansas, or Alabama (that one is certainly debatable), and I think each of those teams' chances improves against us.

It is certainly an opinion, but certainly not a off my rocker uneducated nuckin futs opinion like you seem to think it is, jhag.

9:30 PM  
Blogger wtc said...

I just read where Gabe McKenzie played on both offense and defense last night. I saw him on the D side but not on the O.

9:30 PM  
Blogger Tar Heel Tiger said...

y'all need to go back to ignoring the Braves or they will immediately choke.

9:30 PM  
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9:31 PM  
Blogger §teveFC said...

jhag, in terms of playing and cohesiveness and experience, who has the better players isn't necessarily who has the better defense. Take Vandy for example. They turn out good teams with lesser talent. Inexperienced players make more mistakes that inexperienced players, regardless of the talent level. And as for looking down on players from lower rated divisions and teams, Walter Payton played for Jackson State, so he obviously stunk.

9:31 PM  
Blogger Peter "Big Snacks" Frankenschmidt said...

UGA's receivers will be very tough for us to cover...


Steve, why are you talking about stars? You know we can't evaluate recruits until their sophomore season.

9:32 PM  
Blogger §teveFC said...

wtc, I noticed that too and I didn't see McKenzie on offense. I really do hope they find a nitch for him. He was highly regarded out of highschool and has enough playing time to feel comfortable out there.

9:32 PM  
Blogger WarEagleRK said...

jhag,

So you are saying the intensity of being in a close game where you are trying to scratch out a win and being in a blow out where you know you have it wrapped up is going to be the same???

I agree and believe that our 2nd and third stringers are better than New Hampshire's starters, but NH had a whole lot more to play for in a close game than we did up by 30.

A lot of eighteen year old kids don't see this the same as we do. They were just out having fun it wasn't life or death up 40-10.

9:33 PM  
Blogger §teveFC said...

As I said, stars don't mean they are better or they are worse. It just gives an idea. You never know. The next Leon Hart could just be waiting to sign.

9:33 PM  
Blogger WarEagleRK said...

Gabe came out on our last drive at TE, right after he played a series at DE where they got the FG to make it 54-30.

9:33 PM  
Blogger Tar Heel Tiger said...

Ok, I'm convinced now we can make it to 7-5. We'll win at least one of the next two games. Even with our not-so-special teams and our less than stellar defense.

I really can't remember an AU defense ranking as low statistically as this one. It's been a long while.

9:35 PM  
Blogger WarEagleRK said...

The bad thing is, we didn't give up much yardage against Ball State at all...I think 260 total yards.

Which means our D was put in some pretty bad positions by special teams and penalties to give up those points.

Those are positions we can't put our D in in October.

9:35 PM  
Blogger Peter "Big Snacks" Frankenschmidt said...

RK,

If that's really the case, I'm terrified. If our D can really turn it off and on, we've got motivation issues. Serious, serious, motivation issues.

9:35 PM  
Blogger §teveFC said...

Backups are inexperienced and that is why they are playing. It is hard to compare them with starters at another level. A good example is that kid Chizik chewed on the sideline. His name escapes me at the moment, but he was inexperienced and made a bonehead move with all the best intentions. I am sure he wanted to hit someone to impress the coaches.

9:35 PM  
Blogger Tar Heel Tiger said...

Any other Hotties eating Thanksgiving dinner(supper) at the Auburn Hotel?

9:36 PM  
Blogger WarEagleRK said...

A couple of Bowden teams had really bad defensive stats.

9:36 PM  
Blogger Peter "Big Snacks" Frankenschmidt said...

You have mastered recruiting doublespeak, Steve. It's better than you naming a different QB as started every three days this spring.

9:37 PM  
Blogger WarEagleRK said...

The intensity is not the same in a blowout game for most players.

Offense and defense.

9:37 PM  
Blogger Tar Heel Tiger said...

I'm getting tired of this page.

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