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10.15.2009

Stock tracker: Auburn Tigers

Hey everyone. So I was reading CNBC this morning and today is the day most major credit companies will disclose their Q3 numbers.

Shouldn't we do something similar for Auburn at the season's middle mark? We'll soon be entering Q3 of the season. It's a parallel. Basically the same. A keen segue.

BEATING EXPECTATIONS
  • OT Andrew McCain: The guy spent four years at Auburn before he sniffed the starting lineup, which made people like me wonder if McCain could play at all. Answer: Yes. He's been flagged for one penalty this season and has been beaten for one sack as well. If you think about how he's played 95% of the Tigers' 446 snaps this season, that's a remarkably stable performance.

  • TB/FB Eric Smith: He played last season and some people believed they were looking at Rudi Johnson Jr. I thought he looked more like Cencade Pennington Jr. Regardless, it's obvious that Smith's broad base of skills (he's a good blocker, a good runner and a surprisingly intuitive receiver) makes him an ideal fit in that utility-back role Gus Malzahn often employs. I still don't envision Smith as a featured SEC back, but he clearly will hold down a high-profile role as long as Malzahn is around.

  • LB Adam Herring: I didn't think he would play again. He was out for so long and, honestly, I heard almost nothing about Herring prior to his move into the starting lineup. Herring has emerged as a competent and useful guy on the weak side. It's rare that I see him make a great play. It's rare that I see him miss a tackle. Ted Roof is OK with that combination.

  • Honorable mention: TE Tommy Trott, S Daren Bates, coach Jeff Grimes, WR Darvin Adams.

NOT BEATING EXPECTATIONS
  • WR Tim Hawthorne: I know he was hurt. He was cleared a month ago, though, and actually started against West Virginia. I expected him to become a No. 3 guy and have at least 10 catches by now. He has zero. Malzahn was asked about Hawthorne earlier this week and said Hawthorne was "full throttle" at practice. Weird.

  • LB Eltoro Freeman: He was outstanding during his lone junior-college season and throughout high school. It was reasonable to expect Freeman to slide into Auburn's lineup. He hasn't done that. Teammates say Freeman tries to be too perfect on the field, which apparently is a problem. Freeman has returned from a self-imposed week of exile. Perhaps that provided clarity of mind and purpose.

  • TE Phillip Lutzenkircken: He was a major recruit known for his receiving acumen. He has caught two balls this season, though one was for a touchdown. Two things are working against him right now: An injured left knee and Tommy Trott's dramatic increase in value. Still, I thought Lutzenkirchen was a made-to-order receiver. It looks like he has plenty of technique work ahead.

167 Comments:

Blogger ballin said...

stay focused

9:29 AM  
Blogger Dear Leader said...

substance

9:31 AM  
Blogger Dear Leader said...

?

9:31 AM  
Blogger Jay G. Tate said...

Beaten.

9:32 AM  
Blogger Dear Leader said...

I would classify smiths hands as Great when compared to running backs...

9:34 AM  
Blogger Jay G. Tate said...

He has a broad base of skills. Yes.

9:35 AM  
Blogger scottie irons says beat UK said...

yup, Eric Smith has been a pleasant surprise.

wouldn't Darvin Adams (my boy--holla!) qualify as exceeding expectations? i had no idea he would be such a threat. catching passes is one thing but going out of the way to out-leap defenders and fight for the ball is something else. and i like it.

9:37 AM  
Blogger Jay G. Tate said...

I'll add him to HM.

9:38 AM  
Blogger Jay G. Tate said...

He's been good, though Tuberville always told me DA would be good. I guess that's why I didn't include him.

9:38 AM  
Blogger wtc said...

Good list on beating expectations. If Troot had caught more, he deserves that main recognition. He plays about 90+% every down now. His blocking downfiled has been outstanding.

Grimes is hands down the biggest surprise of the coaches. Pretty good recruiter also.

9:38 AM  
Blogger ballin said...

JGT - The Bull was known as a big hitter in HS but was out of position way too often on many plays. You can get by with that in HS but not at this level. I was hoping he would have corrected that in JC ball.

9:39 AM  
Blogger Jay G. Tate said...

Grimes is busting his butt behind the scenes on recruiting. He's a key player.

9:39 AM  
Blogger cincytiger said...

I was playing by myself on the other thread.

Repost:

Kathy,
I would love for you to come by. We will get there around 10:30 am or so. We are on the green lawn behind Lowder and in front of Miller. Anyone is welcome. And next game we will party at the condo! Woo Hoo!!!

9:41 AM  
Blogger WarEagleRK said...

I think the whole OL should be on the list.

9:42 AM  
Blogger scottie irons says beat UK said...

Cincy, are dogs named for former AU All-Americans allowed at your tailgate?

9:44 AM  
Blogger WarEagleRK said...

Wes Byrum probably should be on there after his horrid season last year.

9:44 AM  
Blogger Jay G. Tate said...

I tried to be selective, RK. Why don't you share your list with us?

9:44 AM  
Blogger Sean said...

I love hearing about coaches busting their butt recruiting.

9:44 AM  
Blogger scottie irons says beat UK said...

haha. RK just got the JGT stiff arm!

9:45 AM  
Blogger wtc said...

Someone asked about the DL/OL recruits for 2010. I think AU is taking in 5 OL and they feel good about getitng all of them. One may defect to UT but that should be the only one they lose, if any.They have the backup guy waiting if that happens.

AU takes on 3 DL and 4 DE and 5 LB's. From what I was told, all have said they are coming no matter what you hear otherwise.

9:45 AM  
Blogger mwdeav said...

I wouldn't say Lutz has failed to meet any reasonable expectations ... despite the fact that folks seemed to think he was going to step in and dominate, I think he's done pretty good in the times that he's been used (which has not been often). There are some positions true freshmen can step in in the SEC and make an impact, i.e. DB and RB. TE is not one of those.

9:46 AM  
Blogger Kathy said...

Me too Cincy! I was actually typing a question regarding Lutaenkircken when I realized there was a new thread. Scary weird. :-/.

9:46 AM  
Blogger wtc said...

The best thing is that all but 1 recruit looks to qualify for the coming year. That is a far cry from the previous few classes.

that will be a good thing.

OK on to beating UK.

9:47 AM  
Blogger Sensi said...

The fact that Trott is catching anything is a major improvement.

9:48 AM  
Blogger Sean said...

I think UK is going to walk into a buzzsaw this weekend.

9:48 AM  
Blogger mytommyd said...

wtc - that's fantastic news. I'm waitin till February though.

9:48 AM  
Blogger Sean said...

Sensi, Trott could always make a ridiculous catch, but the easy ones killed him. I never understood that.

9:48 AM  
Blogger AUfan said...

Beating Expectations- Wes Byrum

Not Beating Expectations- Zac Etheridge

9:49 AM  
Blogger Sean said...

Here is what I expected from Etheridge: Lots of bad angles, lots of overrun tackles. He's met expectations, IMO.

9:49 AM  
Blogger Tar Heel Tiger said...

excellent Q3 report, Analyst Tate. So...how have the markets responded?

9:50 AM  
Blogger mytommyd said...

perhaps Trott got so used to catching crappy throws he didn't understand the technique on a good one.

9:50 AM  
Blogger AUfan said...

wtc,
That was me asking about OL/DL recruiting. I appreciate the good information you provide.

Things sound very positive regarding AU recruiting.

9:51 AM  
Blogger Peter "Big Snacks" Frankenschmidt said...

Repost question/statement from my FB status:This time next week I'll be in LA picking up a rental car. We'll be in LA for a few days, drive to Vegas to meet up with the resy of my bachelor party for a few days, then back to LA for a couple of more days. Should we get the extra $15 insurance?

9:51 AM  
Blogger Sean said...

Yes.

9:52 AM  
Blogger mytommyd said...

In fairness to Wes, I don't think he's beating the expectations that had been placed on him last year. I'm extremely happy that he was able to get things worked out though.

9:53 AM  
Blogger Kathy said...

Thanks for sharing wtc. Gives us something else to look forward to!

I'm just surprised we haven't seen more of Lutz since they've already burned his redshift.

We need players that can come in Jan and fill some of last year's schollys.

FYI. Excuse my typos. I'm on the iPhone.

9:53 AM  
Blogger coosa said...

wtc - Can you tell us many running backs are they gonna sign?

Good article today, Jay.

9:53 AM  
Blogger WarEagleRK said...

I'll do that...

I agree with your list, but I would have the whole OL as performing above expectations and Byrum as well.

As far as under expectations I'd put The Bull, PPL, Blake and Benton.

9:54 AM  
Blogger coosa said...

articles, sorry.

Got a funeral today during the chat. Ya'll have fun.

9:55 AM  
Blogger WarEagleRK said...

Scottie,

Just sharing my opinion...that seems to get me in trouble on here lately.

9:55 AM  
Blogger wtc said...

coosa-2 is what they want.
No qb's.
No fullbacks.

9:56 AM  
Blogger Dear Leader said...

Int. Public Offering - PPL

9:56 AM  
Blogger WarEagleRK said...

AUfan,

I don't have overly high expectations for Ethridge so he didn't finish above or below my expectations.

9:56 AM  
Blogger Tar Heel Tiger said...

PF - of course not. Unless you will be taking the car to Mexico.

9:56 AM  
Blogger Sean said...

I'll hold on the PPL buying...at this point he is a penny stock. Will reevaluate on Sunday.

9:57 AM  
Blogger scottie irons says beat UK said...

just kiddin' ya RK. i couldn't resist.

9:58 AM  
Blogger WarEagleRK said...

Oh I know, I wear the target proudly.

9:59 AM  
Blogger Tar Heel Tiger said...

WORK=Annoying
WERK=not annoying

9:59 AM  
Blogger Peter "Big Snacks" Frankenschmidt said...

Who needs Rivals when we have wtc?...I don't really caee to follow recruiting, but I love some good news.

9:59 AM  
Blogger Tar Heel Tiger said...

that was much nicer than my intended post which might have been taken the wrong way, like so many others

10:00 AM  
Blogger WarEagleRK said...

THT,

I thank you for your support. I'm always proud to be far less annoying than work.

10:00 AM  
Blogger WarEagleRK said...

THT,

So you are saying your post was originally supposed to be mean to me?

:-)

10:01 AM  
Blogger cincytiger said...

scottie iron,
They are very welcome if they can play nicely with my granddogs, Zeke (Sheltie) and Nick (Golden Retriever). The pups like having friends over.

10:01 AM  
Blogger Peter "Big Snacks" Frankenschmidt said...

Mexico would not shock me , knowing my friends and brother.

10:04 AM  
Blogger Peter "Big Snacks" Frankenschmidt said...

THT,Mexico would not shock me , knowing my friends and brother.

10:05 AM  
Blogger Peter "Big Snacks" Frankenschmidt said...

darn double posts. when is HABOTN mobile coming?

10:06 AM  
Blogger Sean said...

User error, Pete?

10:08 AM  
Blogger scottie irons says beat UK said...

Cincy, we'll give it a shot. if he misbehaves we'll scoot. if you see me wander past yell NO DROPS!

10:08 AM  
Blogger WarEagleRK said...

There needs to be a HABOTN signal like the Bat signal that goes up in the sky before tailgating starts so everyone knows where to meet.

10:10 AM  
Blogger Sean said...

Hopefully the game this weekend will not be another 8 Yuengling episode like last week. Well I hope it is, just for the UK fans.

10:10 AM  
Blogger Brother Jet said...

PPLToro ... not meeting expectations

James Swinton ... not meeting expectations.

Raven Gray ... meeting expectations.

10:10 AM  
Blogger Sean said...

WERK, I nominate you project manager for the HABOTN light.

10:10 AM  
Blogger WarEagleRK said...

Where is Aubrey Phillips on the expectations list?

10:12 AM  
Blogger Brother Jet said...

Snacks ...

Contact your insurance agent and check and see if your policy covers auto rentals. It probably does. However, purchase an "umbrella" policy from your agent to cover any other "extra liability" you might incur on this trip or any other garden variety weekend. A $2 million policy might be in order.

Your friend,
Jet

10:13 AM  
Blogger WarEagleRK said...

Sean,

I'll be right on it. Is it ok if the signal is a scrip letter A and and elephant?

10:13 AM  
Blogger wtc said...

Chris Zinn-meeting expectations
Hendrick Leverette-not meeting expectations
Brandon Earl-met expectations also.

10:14 AM  
Blogger Sean said...

Sure, but if the mob shows up, I'm bailing.

10:15 AM  
Blogger Sean said...

By the way, Pinkerton has got to be the most underrated Weezer album. What sayeth the rest of the Weezer fans?

10:15 AM  
Blogger WarEagleRK said...

Downs exceeded my expectations on his 20 seconds behind the play late hit on Ball State.

10:15 AM  
Blogger WarEagleRK said...

Sean,

The Scrip A is for Auburn and the elephant is to never forget.

10:16 AM  
Blogger Tar Heel Tiger said...

WERK - I was going to suggest you go play in traffic and stop annoying all the Hotties. I would have been kidding, of course, but that may not have come across in the post.

Jet- I think Eltoro is meeting Blackmon's expectations.

10:16 AM  
Blogger wtc said...

Where are they now:
Zac Hutch
Ulysses ALexander
Mike Harness
Rex Sharpe
Brain West

All from the 2005 class.

10:17 AM  
Blogger WarEagleRK said...

THT,

I would have been cool with it.

10:18 AM  
Blogger wtc said...

I mentioned last week that Downs's grandfather has his name on a building at AU.

Just sayin'.

10:18 AM  
Blogger WarEagleRK said...

I'm still waiting on Evander Holyfield Jr. to meet expectations.

10:19 AM  
Blogger Tar Heel Tiger said...

I wonder if Downs has been back inside Jordan-Hare since.


Sean - to quote someone's (Eddie's?) daughter, "Bad A, Bad A!!!"

10:19 AM  
Blogger WarEagleRK said...

wtc,

That's all you need to say.

10:19 AM  
Blogger Tar Heel Tiger said...

Hutch is the only name on that list I even remember.

Maybe downs has been back in J-H...in his grandfather's suite.

10:20 AM  
Blogger WarEagleRK said...

For some reason I remember the names Ulysses Alexander and Rex Sharpe, but no idea why.

10:21 AM  
Blogger michael said...

Confucius say: sometimes player rarely seen missing tackle because player rarely in position to make tackle.

10:22 AM  
Blogger Tar Heel Tiger said...

maybe Holyfield will KO a UA-T player and make us all happy.

10:22 AM  
Blogger Tar Heel Tiger said...

Michael- you bring back fond memories of my father. Nobody could make up Confuscious quotes like Dad, AU'39,'42.

10:23 AM  
Blogger michael said...

Freeman reminds me of that girlfriend whose free spirit and zest for life led you to think she was awesome, but then it turned out she was an emotional nutcase.

I'm not sure what this means for his football career. I married an emotional nutcase, so I can attest they are useful.

10:24 AM  
Blogger Tar Heel Tiger said...

oops, I spilled an s and an o on the screen. Someone get me a paper towel quick!

10:24 AM  
Blogger Tar Heel Tiger said...

so did my wife

10:25 AM  
Blogger FSJ said...

michaeleel,

Thought of you this morning as I was getting on the interstate....

There was a man standing near the access ramp with a big sign on his back, an umbrella attached to his coat some way, rain boots, and a puppet attached to his chest. I took a picture. Had to be done. I will upload it later.

10:25 AM  
Blogger WarEagleRK said...

Any time I type Michael's name I'm always saying it in my head like GOB would say to his brother Michael on Arrested Development.

10:27 AM  
Blogger Tar Heel Tiger said...

BEASLEY!!!

10:27 AM  
Blogger WarEagleRK said...

Lunch time here in the Nooga.

10:28 AM  
Blogger Brother Jet said...

My father's name is on the plaque regarding the construction of Beard-Eaves Coliseum, but I don't think that qualifies ElTurbo to play hoops at AU.

Then again, he shoots 20 percent from the free throw line.

10:28 AM  
Blogger coosa said...

I think we ought to give the Downs kid a break. Rich family, he could have just joined a frat, chased girls, and gone to the games drunk. That's what most kids in his position do.

Instead he's out there getting beat up every week on the scout team. And from the way he played, he was really excited about getting to wear the AU uniform and play on that field.

I don't know a thing about him, but I admire him for trying.

I'm not criticizing anybody for criticizing him on the late hit, that was one of the worst ones I've ever seen. But at least he is out there. I never was.

10:39 AM  
Blogger wtc said...

I'm out for a while. Be back later this afternoon. If it is important, someone fb me.

10:40 AM  
Blogger michael said...

My stock ups/downs

Up
McCain and Smith are great picks. Who thought Smith would contribute in any way this season after the fight?
For my third, it is hard between Adams, Bates, and Todd… but I think Todd is the biggest surprise. Who knew the arm would heal like that?

Down
Freeman and Hawthorne certainly fit the bill there. I give Lutz a pass because he is a true freshman, and 5 stars or not, I don’t go into a season expecting anything out of a true freshman.

For my third, I would say… boy this is hard. The team really has exceeded expectations. I will cheat and go with a combo – Goggans and Coleman. I really thought they would get to the QB more than they have. Coleman has more skill, but Goggans has more 1 on 1 opportunities. So they get my third spot together.

10:48 AM  
Blogger diggerforAu said...

Did this thread die because WERK went to lunch or because Brother Jet can't even hit 20% of his free thows??

warped minds want to know.

10:48 AM  
Blogger michael said...

FSJ - I can't wait to see that picture

10:49 AM  
Blogger scottie irons says beat UK said...

homeless puppets?????!!! what is wrong with this world?????

10:50 AM  
Blogger diggerforAu said...

It's not dead just asleep.
Cancel my above thread.

10:52 AM  
Blogger michael said...

Jay G - you seem really high on Grimes as a coach, from his recruiting to his teaching of technique. Is he upward mobile, or do you think he will stay at AU for awhile?

10:53 AM  
Blogger THT 2.0 said...

Ciao Hotties

10:57 AM  
Blogger diggerforAu said...

Hi THT 2.0

10:58 AM  
Blogger michael said...

cinco de mayo, 2.0.

See, I know Swedish too.

11:00 AM  
Blogger Tar Heel Tiger said...

2.0 is off to get supper after reading the HABOTN threads and catching up on the Penguins. We had a nice long chat. I miss 2.0. She misses hockey and American grocery stores.

11:07 AM  
Blogger Kathy said...

Saw this Trooper quote: "you had better have the right players on the field to run the Malzahn "O train" when the play is called"... "You guy's have only seen him on the sidelines calm and collected. I've seen him very upset with his cap on backwards"!

11:07 AM  
Blogger Dear Leader said...

THT2.0 vivete in Italia? Sono geloso…

11:07 AM  
Blogger Kathy said...

How long is 2.0 scheduled to be in Italy?

11:14 AM  
Blogger Tar Heel Tiger said...

DL - THT2.0 is studying in Florence for another 5+ months.

11:15 AM  
Blogger michael said...

el foofarey poopley pompkin

11:27 AM  
Blogger WarEagleRK said...

T"hen again, he shoots 20 percent from the free throw line"

Jet,

That would make him a starter for Lebo.

11:31 AM  
Blogger mytommyd said...

Dang Michael, there some shore nuff foreign talkin'.

11:31 AM  
Blogger Norm said...

MTD - Michael is practicing up to be an international playboy or a double-nought spy. He's given up on the brain surgery and short order cooking.

11:33 AM  
Blogger Dear Leader said...

NICE!!! Viva Italia...

My sister got to do that and I took every opp to visit.. I would bus tables in Italy if I thought I could support mi Familia

11:33 AM  
Blogger mytommyd said...

DL - you can't just go wherever you want, whenever you want? Boy, I need to rethink this whole being a dictator dream.

11:38 AM  
Blogger Kristina said...

Well I think we are setting up at our regular tailgate spot again this week. I wish people would make up their minds....

11:47 AM  
Blogger michael said...

Who says I gave up on brain surgery and short order cooking, Norm? I am a great multi-tasker.

I also am raising a grizzly bear at the moment.

11:49 AM  
Blogger Kristina said...

Michael is joking.

11:50 AM  
Blogger missinit said...

michael........

you are better than any pill or bottle of medicine for what ails ya

you make my endorphins jump for joy!!!!!

11:51 AM  
Blogger michael said...

Thanks kresteenih. Harrison really hates bears, and I didn't want him to think less of me.

11:52 AM  
Blogger scottie irons says beat UK said...

K, it is/was your birthday. u just call the shots. problem solved.

11:52 AM  
Blogger michael said...

Getting high off michael is fun, but dangerous. Remember, too much michael causes cancer, missinit.

11:53 AM  
Blogger missinit said...

at least I'll die laughing....

(that awesome girlfriend=emotional nutcase comment just tickled me to death...just put a fork in me!)

11:59 AM  
Blogger michael said...

That analogy really fits the Freeman situation. You know, early on in the relationship, you are running around with the fun free spirited girl, jumping over fences to go play with some horses at some random barn, or climbing on top of the dry cleaner business that has a trampoline like roof fixture... so fun and so wacky, just like Freeman was during fall practice. He was talking on the time, his teammates were like "He is so emotional and encouraging and gets us fired up," etc.

Well, then you forget to call her one night (or take Freeman out of the UT game), and all of a sudden you don't love her/him anymore and you had always been faking it and you are a bad boyfriend/coach and we're finished, no wait, three days later we're not finished after all.

And eventually, you get married/Freeman is an All-SEC linebacker.

12:06 PM  
Blogger Mark said...

or you realize she is a nutjob and you run out of the room screaming. i.e. cut him.

12:11 PM  
Blogger Brother Jet said...

RK ...

For Evander Holyfield Jr., to meet expectations, he would have to father a community the size of Loachapoka.

12:22 PM  
Blogger Tar Heel Tiger said...

DL - I'm guessing if you bussed tables in Italia, you could at least make enough to turn on the lights at night. That would be a step up from running NK.

12:22 PM  
Blogger Sensi said...

Watson Downs is a stand-up, solid person. That makes him okay in my book.

12:24 PM  
Blogger FSJ said...

Sadly, I think the puppet this morning had a Bama hat on.

12:47 PM  
Blogger Tar Heel Tiger said...

sittin' here just a wishin' we had a Tracy Rocker and Stanley McClover on our DL. Then we wouldn't need the blitzes we aren't using.

12:50 PM  
Blogger E-Bro said...

Give it time THT, especially based off of what wtc was saying earlier this morning. I'm excited about the present with this time, but more excited about the future.

12:56 PM  
Blogger E-Bro said...

team, not time

12:56 PM  
Blogger §teveFC said...

I cannot ever remember Auburn's defense being in the shape that it is currently in. Jay's article really lays it out. Our offense is going to have to win a lot of games for us.

12:56 PM  
Blogger E-Bro said...

Steve, 1995 (Wayne Hall's last year) is a year where I seem to remember our defense being very unlike Auburn on defense.

1:02 PM  
Blogger Sean said...

Steve, can you please change your handle to Captain "SteveFC" Obvious?

Thanks,

The Management

1:03 PM  
Blogger Sean said...

I'm kidding, by the way.

1:04 PM  
Blogger WarEagleRK said...

E-Bro,

1995 was a rough year for the D, but we played tons of freshman on D that year if I remember correctly.

1:05 PM  
Blogger michael said...

A Captain of anything would be quite a promotion. Still well below Queen, mind you.

1:06 PM  
Blogger E-Bro said...

Why is it Captain Obvious? Why not Sergeant First Class, Lietenant, Major, General, etc.?

1:06 PM  
Blogger Brother Jet said...

E-Bro ...

I remember the '95 game in Athens when Wayne told Bowden to go for it on fourth and short in our own territory in the fourth quarter ... not because the defense could stop them from scoring in a short field, but because the defense couldn't stop them from scoring on any field.

Hines Ward was a man that day. Six weeks later, Wayne Hall was off the payroll.

Excuse me, not coaching anymore.

1:07 PM  
Blogger Sean said...

None of them have the ring of "Captain".

1:07 PM  
Blogger E-Bro said...

RK, kudos btw on your earlier reference from Arrested Development.

I'll go ahead and say it. The funniest show I've ever watched.

1:08 PM  
Blogger scottie irons says beat UK said...

Arrested Development was/is ausome.

1:09 PM  
Blogger E-Bro said...

Yeah Jet, if I remember correctly, the only time we gave up less than 20 points in an SEC game was Ole Miss in the first (Tubs' first game at that), and LSU in the Bring Back the Majic Game that we lost.

Otherwise, Kentucky got 21, MSU got 20, Florida got 49, Arkansas got in the mid 30s, Georgia got in the mid 30s, and Bama got 27. Penn State got 43 in the bowl game. Enter Brother Oliver.

1:11 PM  
Blogger §teveFC said...

Even back in 95 it wasn't like this. As Jay points out in his article, it isn't just we have 77 on scholarship. It is that too many of those 77 are offensive players. Yea, we had less talent in the later Bowden years, but I can never remember us having this little depth, even back in the 70s.

1:11 PM  
Blogger §teveFC said...

I liked Wayne Hall. I thought getting rid of him was part of the end of Bowden.

1:12 PM  
Blogger E-Bro said...

Yeah Scottie, I have the complete series on DVD and just continue run through each season time and again. It seems there is always a subtle bit of humor I missed because I was laughing so hard and long the first time.

1:12 PM  
Blogger Brother Jet said...

E-Bro ...

That bowl game was the most rain I've ever seen. Period.

Stephen Davis was running like a mad man and then got hurt. Our plan after that was to make Pat Nix try to run the spread, roll out and throw.

It didn't go well.

1:16 PM  
Blogger WarEagleRK said...

I have the entire Arrested Development series on DVD as well. They are apparently making a movie, so it least it's not dead.


I was at the Outback Bowl as well and that was a miserable time.

1:18 PM  
Blogger E-Bro said...

That was back when JoePa had an insane win-loss record in bowl games and that was Bowden's first bowl game. Got his little hiney spanked good and proper.

As for Davis, I've always heard it that he took himself out of the game to protect his pro-career. He was cleared to go back in. Can't say I necessarily blame him.

1:20 PM  
Blogger WarEagleRK said...

I'll admit I took myself out of the game early as well.

1:22 PM  
Blogger E-Bro said...

I bet Bush Gardens was fun, though.

1:24 PM  
Blogger WarEagleRK said...

So, favorite Arrested Development character?

Mine changed many times over the show, but I'd have to say GOB was my favorite.

1:29 PM  
Blogger E-Bro said...

Ooh, that's a tough question RK. Probably changed week to week between Gob, Michael, George Michael, George Bluth, Sr., and Tobias. Such a great cast of characters.

1:36 PM  
Blogger FearlessFreep said...

Sometimes, when I get on HABOTN late in the day, I discover some interesting topic in a thread from several hours earlier that has been subsequently dropped, so I don't know if I should pick it back up or not.

What the h3ll, I'll do it anyway.

This might be the reason why you remember Ulysses Alexander's name:

Uni High

1:38 PM  
Blogger WarEagleRK said...

Tobias would probably be a close #2 for my favorite.

Everyone's favorite never-nude.

1:39 PM  
Blogger WarEagleRK said...

Ah yes, University High. That's why I remember him.

1:41 PM  
Blogger scottie irons says beat UK said...

ah, the never-nude. hilarious.

and don't forget, "There's always money in the banana stand."

1:42 PM  
Blogger E-Bro said...

That Fünke is some kind of something. Boy, this Fünke is all anybody’s ever talking about. So sick and tired of hearing about how brilliant that Fünke is. Overrated.

1:44 PM  
Blogger WarEagleRK said...

Tobias "I just blue myself."

Michael "what...nevermind"

1:45 PM  
Blogger E-Bro said...

Gob's treatise on Rock, Paper, Scissors:

There's not a lot of logic to it. It's kind of like on a boat with "Women and children first." I mean, why should they...

1:46 PM  
Blogger E-Bro said...

Tobias: Even if it means taking a chubby, I will suck it up.

1:47 PM  
Blogger WarEagleRK said...

We have a picture with you with Saddam Huisein.

"Oh, I thought that was the guy who played the Soup Nazi, I told him I liked his work."

1:48 PM  
Blogger ehyou said...

I'm ticked to this day Arrested Development was pulled. The laugh/show ratio was off the charts.

1:49 PM  
Blogger E-Bro said...

What's great about that scene is when George says a picture with Saddam is career suicide and then they screen cuts away to a picture of Saddam and Rumsfield in the 80s and they cut back to Michael who says, "Not always."

1:51 PM  
Blogger michael said...

At the end of the episode where Michael asked Tobias to record himself to see what he sounds like,

Tobias - "Tobias, you blowhard!"

1:52 PM  
Blogger E-Bro said...

Gob and Kitty hooking up:

Gob: Take off your glasses. Oh... wait, wait. Let down your hair. No, glasses on, hair back up. Let's just get that hair right back up.

Kitty: Let me turn the lights off.

Gob: Yes, yes, please.

Kitty: How's that? Is that better?

Gob: It just seems like there's still light coming in from under the door.

1:54 PM  
Blogger WarEagleRK said...

Tobias "I'll call the Hot Cops and tell them to dress up as something better themed. Hot sailors, maybe. Or better yet, hot sea.."

Michael "I like hot sailors."

Tobias "Mmmm. Me too. "

1:56 PM  
Blogger E-Bro said...

At Prison:

Barry Zuckerkorn: Are all the guys in here... you know? [referencing gay inmates]

George Sr.: Oh, no, no. No, not all of them.

Barry Zuckerkorn: Yeah. It's never the ones you hope.

George Sr.: Hope?

Barry Zuckerkorn: Think.

2:00 PM  
Blogger scottie irons says beat UK said...

JGT representing in the Bluegrass : KENTUCKY.COM LOVES THE HABOTN

2:30 PM  

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