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12.07.2009

My Heisman ballot

Hey everyone. After conferring with Wifey, whose opinion I at least considered, I have made my final decisions.

1st -- Ndamukong Suh, DT, Nebraska

2nd -- Mark Ingram, TB, Alabama

3rd -- Toby Gerhart, TB, Stanford

LOOKING AT THE CANDIDATES
Suh's numbers: 82 tackles (47 solo, 35 assists), 12 sacks, 1 interception.

Why I like him: Suh is a dominating defensive player whom I consider the best DL of my professional career. He does everything. He played a huge role in Nebraska's midseason renaissance and you saw him play against Texas. He is, in my opinion, the most outstanding player in college football.

**********

Ingram's numbers: 249 carries for 1,542 yards, 15 TDs. He also caught 30 passes for 322 yards and another three TDs.

Why I like him: Ingram is a stud. He's the best tailback around. He gave his team a bankable, trustworthy, game-breaking element every single week. Well, except for Auburn week. Ingram still had a whale of a season. Outstanding player. Not quite as dominating as Suh, but still a top-shelf star.

**********

Gerhart's numbers: 311 carries for 1,736 yards, 26 TDs. He also caught 10 passes for 149 yards.

Why I like him: Gerhart is a workhorse back. He averaged 26 carries per game, which is incredible. You know how often Ben Tate ran the ball. He only averages 20 carries per game. He made Stanford relevant on the national scene for the first time in a while.

*********

*Wifey said I should vote for Ingram.

*A guy I know through correspondence, Kari Chisholm from Oregon, is busting his hump to determine the winner. He's gathering votes in an unofficial capacity. He's been 100% accurate since starting this endeavor in 2002.

123 Comments:

Blogger Sean said...

Heisman susbstance.

3:04 PM  
Blogger Sean said...

If only I could spell!

3:05 PM  
Blogger j-z said...

Wow...

3:05 PM  
Blogger scottie burns said...

SUH!

3:06 PM  
Blogger Peter "Big Snacks" Frankenschmidt said...

If I had not read, you all would've gotten beat at that stupid game that is being the first to post a unsubstantial comment on a thread.

3:06 PM  
Blogger WarEagleRK said...

Big Snacks has turned brutal in recent days.

3:07 PM  
Blogger Peter "Big Snacks" Frankenschmidt said...

NDONKEYKONG!!!!!


He's getting some love nationwide. I wonder if he has a chance. Same for Toby. Ingram is the frontrunner, but even Colt and Tebow will get some love.

3:07 PM  
Blogger WarEagleRK said...

I wonder how many others will vote Suh as the # 1 guy?

3:07 PM  
Blogger Scott Chocolate said...

Whas'SUH'p?

THT, you have e-mail.

3:07 PM  
Blogger Sean said...

I read too, PF.

3:08 PM  
Blogger Peter "Big Snacks" Frankenschmidt said...

Jet said I'm brooding. Guess I'm just letting out that angst. I need a break before I dye my hair black, start wearing eyeliner, and start singing sad songs.

3:09 PM  
Blogger Jay G. Tate said...

According to StiffArmTrophy.com, Suh is leading in terms of first-place votes.

3:10 PM  
Blogger scottie burns said...

PF, when you get to that point let me know. i'd love to be at your first concert.

3:10 PM  
Blogger Sean said...

Nutt to Kansas?

3:10 PM  
Blogger scottie burns said...

i'm late to the party but i had never heard of SUH before saturday nite.

however, i'm down with his #1 vote. :)

3:11 PM  
Blogger Peter "Big Snacks" Frankenschmidt said...

I have to think the guy who wins it will be the one that gets on nearly every ballot, no matter what place. The votes are gonna be divided among those five guys, with some Casey Keenums of the world thrown in. Unlike the past few years, we have no idea who's going to even be invited to the Athletic Club.

Unfortunately, I think Ingram will be the guy on everyone's ballot, even if he isn't first on them.

3:12 PM  
Blogger Sean said...

As a big NFL fan, I've heard all about Suh, he's been the talk of the draft gurus for months.

3:13 PM  
Blogger Ragamuffin said...

Should have been Gerhart over Ingram. 200 more yards rushing in one less game. 144 yds per game vs 118 and he actually faced more good rushing defenses than Ingram did (4 in the top 30 against the run vs 1 for Ingram).

3:13 PM  
Blogger Peter "Big Snacks" Frankenschmidt said...

I'm pretty sure I patented his new moniker,Ndonkeykong, several months ago. I'll have to check my notes. Figures Scottie would be among those (everyone) that don't read my posts.

3:14 PM  
Blogger stupup74 said...

Any of the 3 on Jay G's ballot would be a worthy winner.

As much as it hurts me to say it, I still think Ingram should be the winner. That 6.2 yards per carry vs. an SEC schedule is hard not to notice.

3:15 PM  
Blogger Jay G. Tate said...

There are seven guys who could be No. 1.

It's like arguing about which color you like better. I like yellow. How are you going to convince me that I don't like yellow anymore?

3:15 PM  
Blogger Sean said...

Because yellow sucks, Jay G.

I always figured you to be a blue kinda guy.

3:16 PM  
Blogger Peter "Big Snacks" Frankenschmidt said...

Yellow rules!

3:16 PM  
Blogger WarEagleRK said...

If Houston Nutt goes to Kansas, that means no more Steve using the "Ole Nutt" line.

3:16 PM  
Blogger Jay G. Tate said...

Yellow is the color of my favorite college team: IOWA.

3:17 PM  
Blogger Jay G. Tate said...

The color of corn.

3:17 PM  
Blogger Peter "Big Snacks" Frankenschmidt said...

SNORT. Hawt.

3:17 PM  
Blogger Peter "Big Snacks" Frankenschmidt said...

You gonna head to Miami to cover them after the Outback bowl?

3:18 PM  
Blogger scottie burns said...

PF, i love your posts. that was just plain mean. i read your posts....sometimes.

3:18 PM  
Blogger Sean said...

Jay G, I think you bumping them above PSU, the everlong doubter of all things Iowa, got them a BCS bid. I think you should get a cut.

3:19 PM  
Blogger Peter "Big Snacks" Frankenschmidt said...

Jay G,

Any word on how Auburn's doing with the guaranteed ticket sales? They making progress? Think they'll get rid of them all?

3:20 PM  
Blogger Peter "Big Snacks" Frankenschmidt said...

What happened to Carmela? She was an impostor, wasn't she?

3:21 PM  
Blogger Jim Rome said...

Wasted ballot

3:24 PM  
Blogger Peter "Big Snacks" Frankenschmidt said...

your mom's a wasted ballot.

3:25 PM  
Blogger WarEagleRK said...

Wasted post

3:28 PM  
Blogger Wakeriderof87 said...

Wasted sports talk host

3:30 PM  
Blogger WarEagleRK said...

Elegantly Wasted

3:31 PM  
Blogger LuvAU41 said...

Wake, you can NEVER get rid of that avatar.

3:32 PM  
Blogger j-z said...

The "yo' mama" card has been played. It's on.

3:33 PM  
Blogger Wakeriderof87 said...

I suppose I will get rid of it when Faker finally admits that his love has truly shifted to the Auburn side... don't worry, it will happen.

3:33 PM  
Blogger Jay G. Tate said...

Jim Rome returns after a three-month absence.

Welcome back.

3:42 PM  
Blogger scottie burns said...

he was gone 3 months? really?

he used to be on here in knoxville till they put on ANOTHER freakin' local UT show. gag.

3:43 PM  
Blogger FSJ said...

Thats a good ballot.

Like you said, arguments can be made for all seven.

3:44 PM  
Blogger FSJ said...

Kelly is as good as gone..

Kelly

3:46 PM  
Blogger FSJ said...

Luv,

He needs to get rid of it soooooooooonnnnnnnn!

3:47 PM  
Blogger FSJ said...

Ok..I'm not getting this...

Why would Houston Nutt be interested in Kansas?

Nutt

3:49 PM  
Blogger Sean said...

FSJ, I saw that. I don't believe it will happen.

3:50 PM  
Blogger chip chip said...

jevan snead is gone after this year and look what they did with him.

3:51 PM  
Blogger FSJ said...

Nutt and WVU's coach need to be fired for the way they both misused their best player this year for the majority of the year.

3:52 PM  
Blogger FSJ said...

If Nutt leaves, they need to go after Tuberville or Fran.

Just kidding.

3:53 PM  
Blogger Sean said...

I had nightmares before the Ole Miss game of Dexter McCluster, I wish they would have figured that out after we played them.

3:53 PM  
Blogger chip chip said...

This comment has been removed by the author.

3:53 PM  
Blogger FSJ said...

That's his name Sean..i can't ever remember it for some reason.

I can remember Devine's name..and I was shocked at how they forgot about him and tried to win the AU game with the new QB.

3:55 PM  
Blogger chip chip said...

tubs would leave in a pine box this time...

3:55 PM  
Blogger Sean said...

It's amazing that they forgot about him and he STILL ran for 200 against us. Not a fan of the greased midget attack. Not one bit.

3:56 PM  
Blogger chip chip said...

fran might arrive in one...

3:56 PM  
Blogger FSJ said...

They forgot about him in the first half the year before. Y'all were wearing them out...

Devine's one tough dude...

3:57 PM  
Blogger WarEagleRK said...

Nutt, Bill Stewart of WVU and Jim Leavitt of USF are on my final ballot for the Heisman of facial expressions.

3:58 PM  
Blogger FSJ said...

I've got a picture of Saban during the Iron Bowl...

If you had seen that one on TV he would have made your list.

3:59 PM  
Blogger chip chip said...

this is definitely the most congested HT race in a long time. many really really good players and great players that had just above average seasons for them. i'd like to see ingram get robbed, but he probably deserves it.

3:59 PM  
Blogger WarEagleRK said...

I'll trade Ingram winning the Heisman for Texas winning the National title.

4:03 PM  
Blogger Peter "Big Snacks" Frankenschmidt said...

that's a tough one RK.

4:05 PM  
Blogger chip chip said...

the all sec team picks speak volumes as to what AU's coaches were able to accomplish with what they had. AC is the only player on the team that opponents truly feared. darvin adams is the closest thing AU's offense has to a true game breaking player and he's not in the same league as greene, jones, randle, tolliver, hodge etc.

4:05 PM  
Blogger FSJ said...

I'd take 14-0 over Ingram winning..No question.

I'd rather have both though.

4:05 PM  
Blogger chip chip said...

i saw a bammer with a puppy at the iron bowl this year watching tiger walk.

i was tempted to ask her the following question:

if i can promise you 100% that bammer wins the iron bowl, sec championship and national championship right now, will you kill the puppy right now?

i chickened out because i didn't want dog blood on be for the whole game...

4:08 PM  
Blogger WarEagleRK said...

Wow, Ryan Mallett was robbed with Tebow being the All SEC QB.

Darvin Adams doesn't even make 2nd team neither does Byrum.

4:11 PM  
Blogger Peter "Big Snacks" Frankenschmidt said...

according to Jay G's guy at stiffarmtrophy.com, with 20% of the votes tallied, it's a four horse race between McCoy, Gerhart, Ingram, and Suh, with Suh way on top. Awesome.

4:16 PM  
Blogger chip chip said...

what does everyone think of yoxall's job performance over the last few years? is anyone concerned he may have gotten a little stale like the previous staff?

the reason i ask is watching other teams (bammer especially) AU's players do not look as physically developed--especially in the defensive backfield. darren bates looks and plays more like an lsu, bammer, or uf db than anyone else on the team. bammer's d-linemen also look lean and cut where some of ours look a little soft in the middle. i know getting more talented players and numbers will cure some of that but just wanted to know if anyone else felt the same about yox. he's done too much good for too long at AU for me to write him off very quickly.

4:17 PM  
Blogger Jay G. Tate said...

But Peter -- Jim Rome says mine was a wasted vote.

4:22 PM  
Blogger jhag said...

Nutt being "interested" in Kansas is Sexton shopping him around, you folks should know better by now. He shows interest, Ole Miss gives him a raise, case closed.

4:22 PM  
Blogger jhag said...

Ross Perot

4:22 PM  
Blogger Tar Heel Tiger said...

FSJ - I'd rather have neither. I hope I get what I want.

JayGT - Blue is definitely better than yellow, which makes Gerhart better than Ingram. Don't ask me how. It just does.

4:24 PM  
Blogger Jay G. Tate said...

PROGRAMMING NOTE

I will be live blogging the AU-UVA hoops game tonight.

4:27 PM  
Blogger Tar Heel Tiger said...

So what's the chance that Suh and/or Ingram voters checked the Stiff Arm site before casting their votes and then chose to leave Gerhart off their ballots in an effort to give their own choice a better chance?

4:28 PM  
Blogger FSJ said...

YAY...

Live blogging basketball..One of my favorite things from last winter.

4:29 PM  
Blogger Peter "Big Snacks" Frankenschmidt said...

interesting conspiracy, THT.

4:29 PM  
Blogger Peter "Big Snacks" Frankenschmidt said...

Jay G,

will your live blog contain the phrase "geez, this team sucks?"

4:30 PM  
Blogger Tar Heel Tiger said...

PF - My paranoia does have its advantages.

4:30 PM  
Blogger michael said...

Gerhart is looking good right now according to the prognosticators. Phew.

Jay G, I regret to inform you that I will not be able to live blog your live blog tonight. Please believe me, it's not becuase I am live blogging someone else's live blog, though. Trust me.

4:30 PM  
Blogger Tar Heel Tiger said...

PF - that was very funny because it will be so true.

4:31 PM  
Blogger michael said...

Writers are generally a principled/self righteous bunch, THT. I don't think any conspiracies would happen for "their guy" to win.

Now if it were the coaches poll, on the other hand...

4:32 PM  
Blogger Tar Heel Tiger said...

So JayGT - are you principled and/or self-righteous?

4:34 PM  
Blogger K_Mo said...

I don't understand Ingram over Gerhart.

4:37 PM  
Blogger Peter "Big Snacks" Frankenschmidt said...

Duh, he's an attention whore. MonD said so, as did someone on ITAT.

4:38 PM  
Blogger Tar Heel Tiger said...

K-Mo - For the life of me, I don't understand Ingram on anybody's Top 3 ballot. But then, I'm a "blue" guy.

4:38 PM  
Blogger Peter "Big Snacks" Frankenschmidt said...

Your avatar is still hot.

4:39 PM  
Blogger Tar Heel Tiger said...

BEASLEY!!!

4:39 PM  
Blogger riskman108 said...

Good picks Jay

4:41 PM  
Blogger Scott Chocolate said...

K_Mo, does your avatar have a kitten under her shirt? That might solve a HABOTN mystery. Well, it might if PaulMain's avatar were a cartoon.

Where has he been, anyway?

4:43 PM  
Blogger FSJ said...

Stick Gerhart in the SEC and see how he does...

I'd wager he wouldn't be dragging Rolando McClain down the field like he did those Notre Dame players.

4:44 PM  
Blogger Tar Heel Tiger said...

JayGT - thanks for the Stiff Arm Trophy link. Their past results are fascinating. But I'm thinking that I'm probably wasting my time hitting the refresh button on that site every couple of minutes!

4:44 PM  
Blogger Peter "Big Snacks" Frankenschmidt said...

He'd lower his shoulder an knock McClain on his butt, homer.

4:45 PM  
Blogger Tar Heel Tiger said...

you're right FSJ. He'd just run over him and leave tread marks.


Just kidding. McClain ain't no Bosworth.

4:46 PM  
Blogger Scott Chocolate said...

This is from a Twitter feed off of the StiffArmTrophy site:

Toby Gerhart is a Heisman finalist. He'll be joined in New York by Mark Ingram, Colt McCoy, Tim Tebow and Ndamukong Suh.

Nothing earth-shattering, there, but if it's correct, at least we know who is invited to NY.

4:47 PM  
Blogger D. Miller said...

Don't forget to sign up for the HABOTN Bowl Pick'em! This can be found on Yahoo!

This group is FREE.

Group ID# is 12699 and Password is: outback



Info on how to sign up for a "wager" group can be found by signing up for the free group.

4:47 PM  
Blogger D. Miller said...

I'm a blue guy, myself.

4:47 PM  
Blogger K_Mo said...

FSJ, Gerhart has faced consistently tougher defenses than Ingram while outperforming him. The myth that he wouldn't be as good against the big bad guys in the SEC is just that, a myth.

4:52 PM  
Blogger jhag said...

I never realized Antonio Goodwin decommited, crap

5:03 PM  
Blogger Sean said...

Yeah, Jhag, he did. He might still sign with the good guys.

5:16 PM  
Blogger jhag said...

smellin like a dawg to me

5:18 PM  
Blogger jhag said...

so the four dudes who voted UT #1 Rob Akey from Idaho, Tim Brewster from Minnesota, Mark Dantonio from Michigan State, and Bo Pelini from Nebraska.

Also, Brian Kelly voted Cinci #1...


http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/football/2009-final-coaches-ballots.htm

5:23 PM  
Blogger Dear Leader said...

My ballot:
1. Gerhart
2. Gerhart
3. Peter "Big Snacks" Frankenschmidt

5:32 PM  
Blogger jhag said...

that hurts DL :,(

5:33 PM  
Blogger Dear Leader said...

SOrry JHAG... needed some substance to my ballot...

no hard feelings.... if we ever meet I will buy you a cup of rice.

5:34 PM  
Blogger jhag said...

ooooooooooooo no harm done in that case, yay

5:39 PM  
Blogger Tar Heel Tiger said...

that's a good ballot, DL. Must have been an off year on college talent in North Korea.

5:40 PM  
Blogger Wakeriderof87 said...

So that was really Jim Rome earlier?

5:41 PM  
Blogger Tar Heel Tiger said...

thanks for that link, jhag. Too bad I'm not on the coaches poll. TCU deserves at least one first place vote.

They should just let Al Golden vote and forget the other coaches. Much simpler. He had 1-14 pegged with the exception of a flip at 4/5.

5:42 PM  
Blogger Tar Heel Tiger said...

on the list of Heisman voters at the link JayGT provided is one whose affiliation is "blackathlete.net"

I was unable to find the voter who is affiliated with aryanathlete.net.

5:48 PM  
Blogger Dear Leader said...

On Atlanta radio they were throwing out that Georgia should hire tubbs to run the defense for one game.....

He would never do it... but damn that would be fun...

5:48 PM  
Blogger Tar Heel Tiger said...

Stiff Arm has updated their tally/projections. Gerhart's projected margin of victory has narrowed, with Suh and Ingram in almost a dead heat for 2nd.

5:50 PM  
Blogger coosa said...

I like your ballot, Jay.

But how can they put the uat kicker on the all-sec team ahead of Byrum? Tiffin missed 3 extra points; Byrum missed only one kick the entire season, and it was a 40+ fg. If he had made that one, and been 100% on the year, would it have made any difference?

5:51 PM  
Blogger E-Bro said...

So Pasche, Griese, and Spielman are set to announce the Outback Bowl for ESPN. Last time they called an early morning Auburn game, we got pounded in Fayettenam.

BTW, heartbreaking about Spielman's wife. Sad, sad story.

6:18 PM  
Blogger wtc said...

I do not understand the lovefest over Tiffin. I think he got his votes because he is like the scoring leader in the conference. i think that he missed 3 extra points is telling. He flubbed a couple of FGs also. That kick he missed inthe AU game was ridiculous.
I would give the 1st team to the kid from UGA.

6:25 PM  
Blogger wtc said...

Early line has UA favored by 5.5.

6:25 PM  
Blogger Eddie said...

I agree with WTC. UGA kicker #1 followed by Byrum. That is how it should have been.

6:26 PM  
Blogger E-Bro said...

So we know Tebow, Gerhart, McCoy, Suh, and Ingram are going to New York.

Less than Spiller deserves.

6:29 PM  
Blogger wtc said...

JayG-I passed up the front row seats tonight. After seeing them get hammered by Troy, I had to pass on this one.

It is on TV tonight.

6:31 PM  
Blogger E-Bro said...

Where's Darvin Adams on any of the All-SEC teams?

6:36 PM  
Blogger Eddie said...

Bro- snubbed, that's where. He deserves at least 2nd team. All-SEC teams are jokes.

6:38 PM  
Blogger E-Bro said...

For shame, for shame.

6:45 PM  
Blogger Jay G. Tate said...

New thread UPZ.

6:57 PM  
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