My Heisman ballot
Hey everyone. After conferring with Wifey, whose opinion I at least considered, I have made my final decisions.1st -- Ndamukong Suh, DT, Nebraska
2nd -- Mark Ingram, TB, Alabama
3rd -- Toby Gerhart, TB, Stanford
LOOKING AT THE CANDIDATES
Suh's numbers: 82 tackles (47 solo, 35 assists), 12 sacks, 1 interception.
Why I like him: Suh is a dominating defensive player whom I consider the best DL of my professional career. He does everything. He played a huge role in Nebraska's midseason renaissance and you saw him play against Texas. He is, in my opinion, the most outstanding player in college football.
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Ingram's numbers: 249 carries for 1,542 yards, 15 TDs. He also caught 30 passes for 322 yards and another three TDs.
Why I like him: Ingram is a stud. He's the best tailback around. He gave his team a bankable, trustworthy, game-breaking element every single week. Well, except for Auburn week. Ingram still had a whale of a season. Outstanding player. Not quite as dominating as Suh, but still a top-shelf star.
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Gerhart's numbers: 311 carries for 1,736 yards, 26 TDs. He also caught 10 passes for 149 yards.
Why I like him: Gerhart is a workhorse back. He averaged 26 carries per game, which is incredible. You know how often Ben Tate ran the ball. He only averages 20 carries per game. He made Stanford relevant on the national scene for the first time in a while.
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*Wifey said I should vote for Ingram.
*A guy I know through correspondence, Kari Chisholm from Oregon, is busting his hump to determine the winner. He's gathering votes in an unofficial capacity. He's been 100% accurate since starting this endeavor in 2002.
posted by Jay G. Tate at
2:43 PM
121 Comments:
Heisman susbstance.
If only I could spell!
Wow...
SUH!
If I had not read, you all would've gotten beat at that stupid game that is being the first to post a unsubstantial comment on a thread.
Big Snacks has turned brutal in recent days.
NDONKEYKONG!!!!!
He's getting some love nationwide. I wonder if he has a chance. Same for Toby. Ingram is the frontrunner, but even Colt and Tebow will get some love.
I wonder how many others will vote Suh as the # 1 guy?
Whas'SUH'p?
THT, you have e-mail.
I read too, PF.
Jet said I'm brooding. Guess I'm just letting out that angst. I need a break before I dye my hair black, start wearing eyeliner, and start singing sad songs.
According to StiffArmTrophy.com, Suh is leading in terms of first-place votes.
PF, when you get to that point let me know. i'd love to be at your first concert.
Nutt to Kansas?
i'm late to the party but i had never heard of SUH before saturday nite.
however, i'm down with his #1 vote. :)
I have to think the guy who wins it will be the one that gets on nearly every ballot, no matter what place. The votes are gonna be divided among those five guys, with some Casey Keenums of the world thrown in. Unlike the past few years, we have no idea who's going to even be invited to the Athletic Club.
Unfortunately, I think Ingram will be the guy on everyone's ballot, even if he isn't first on them.
As a big NFL fan, I've heard all about Suh, he's been the talk of the draft gurus for months.
Should have been Gerhart over Ingram. 200 more yards rushing in one less game. 144 yds per game vs 118 and he actually faced more good rushing defenses than Ingram did (4 in the top 30 against the run vs 1 for Ingram).
I'm pretty sure I patented his new moniker,Ndonkeykong, several months ago. I'll have to check my notes. Figures Scottie would be among those (everyone) that don't read my posts.
Any of the 3 on Jay G's ballot would be a worthy winner.
As much as it hurts me to say it, I still think Ingram should be the winner. That 6.2 yards per carry vs. an SEC schedule is hard not to notice.
There are seven guys who could be No. 1.
It's like arguing about which color you like better. I like yellow. How are you going to convince me that I don't like yellow anymore?
Because yellow sucks, Jay G.
I always figured you to be a blue kinda guy.
Yellow rules!
If Houston Nutt goes to Kansas, that means no more Steve using the "Ole Nutt" line.
Yellow is the color of my favorite college team: IOWA.
The color of corn.
SNORT. Hawt.
You gonna head to Miami to cover them after the Outback bowl?
PF, i love your posts. that was just plain mean. i read your posts....sometimes.
Jay G, I think you bumping them above PSU, the everlong doubter of all things Iowa, got them a BCS bid. I think you should get a cut.
Jay G,
Any word on how Auburn's doing with the guaranteed ticket sales? They making progress? Think they'll get rid of them all?
What happened to Carmela? She was an impostor, wasn't she?
Wasted ballot
your mom's a wasted ballot.
Wasted post
Wasted sports talk host
Elegantly Wasted
Wake, you can NEVER get rid of that avatar.
The "yo' mama" card has been played. It's on.
I suppose I will get rid of it when Faker finally admits that his love has truly shifted to the Auburn side... don't worry, it will happen.
Jim Rome returns after a three-month absence.
Welcome back.
he was gone 3 months? really?
he used to be on here in knoxville till they put on ANOTHER freakin' local UT show. gag.
Thats a good ballot.
Like you said, arguments can be made for all seven.
Kelly is as good as gone..
Kelly
Luv,
He needs to get rid of it soooooooooonnnnnnnn!
Ok..I'm not getting this...
Why would Houston Nutt be interested in Kansas?
Nutt
FSJ, I saw that. I don't believe it will happen.
jevan snead is gone after this year and look what they did with him.
Nutt and WVU's coach need to be fired for the way they both misused their best player this year for the majority of the year.
If Nutt leaves, they need to go after Tuberville or Fran.
Just kidding.
I had nightmares before the Ole Miss game of Dexter McCluster, I wish they would have figured that out after we played them.
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That's his name Sean..i can't ever remember it for some reason.
I can remember Devine's name..and I was shocked at how they forgot about him and tried to win the AU game with the new QB.
tubs would leave in a pine box this time...
It's amazing that they forgot about him and he STILL ran for 200 against us. Not a fan of the greased midget attack. Not one bit.
fran might arrive in one...
They forgot about him in the first half the year before. Y'all were wearing them out...
Devine's one tough dude...
Nutt, Bill Stewart of WVU and Jim Leavitt of USF are on my final ballot for the Heisman of facial expressions.
I've got a picture of Saban during the Iron Bowl...
If you had seen that one on TV he would have made your list.
this is definitely the most congested HT race in a long time. many really really good players and great players that had just above average seasons for them. i'd like to see ingram get robbed, but he probably deserves it.
I'll trade Ingram winning the Heisman for Texas winning the National title.
that's a tough one RK.
the all sec team picks speak volumes as to what AU's coaches were able to accomplish with what they had. AC is the only player on the team that opponents truly feared. darvin adams is the closest thing AU's offense has to a true game breaking player and he's not in the same league as greene, jones, randle, tolliver, hodge etc.
I'd take 14-0 over Ingram winning..No question.
I'd rather have both though.
i saw a bammer with a puppy at the iron bowl this year watching tiger walk.
i was tempted to ask her the following question:
if i can promise you 100% that bammer wins the iron bowl, sec championship and national championship right now, will you kill the puppy right now?
i chickened out because i didn't want dog blood on be for the whole game...
Wow, Ryan Mallett was robbed with Tebow being the All SEC QB.
Darvin Adams doesn't even make 2nd team neither does Byrum.
according to Jay G's guy at stiffarmtrophy.com, with 20% of the votes tallied, it's a four horse race between McCoy, Gerhart, Ingram, and Suh, with Suh way on top. Awesome.
what does everyone think of yoxall's job performance over the last few years? is anyone concerned he may have gotten a little stale like the previous staff?
the reason i ask is watching other teams (bammer especially) AU's players do not look as physically developed--especially in the defensive backfield. darren bates looks and plays more like an lsu, bammer, or uf db than anyone else on the team. bammer's d-linemen also look lean and cut where some of ours look a little soft in the middle. i know getting more talented players and numbers will cure some of that but just wanted to know if anyone else felt the same about yox. he's done too much good for too long at AU for me to write him off very quickly.
But Peter -- Jim Rome says mine was a wasted vote.
Nutt being "interested" in Kansas is Sexton shopping him around, you folks should know better by now. He shows interest, Ole Miss gives him a raise, case closed.
Ross Perot
FSJ - I'd rather have neither. I hope I get what I want.
JayGT - Blue is definitely better than yellow, which makes Gerhart better than Ingram. Don't ask me how. It just does.
PROGRAMMING NOTE
I will be live blogging the AU-UVA hoops game tonight.
So what's the chance that Suh and/or Ingram voters checked the Stiff Arm site before casting their votes and then chose to leave Gerhart off their ballots in an effort to give their own choice a better chance?
YAY...
Live blogging basketball..One of my favorite things from last winter.
interesting conspiracy, THT.
Jay G,
will your live blog contain the phrase "geez, this team sucks?"
PF - My paranoia does have its advantages.
Gerhart is looking good right now according to the prognosticators. Phew.
Jay G, I regret to inform you that I will not be able to live blog your live blog tonight. Please believe me, it's not becuase I am live blogging someone else's live blog, though. Trust me.
PF - that was very funny because it will be so true.
Writers are generally a principled/self righteous bunch, THT. I don't think any conspiracies would happen for "their guy" to win.
Now if it were the coaches poll, on the other hand...
So JayGT - are you principled and/or self-righteous?
I don't understand Ingram over Gerhart.
Duh, he's an attention whore. MonD said so, as did someone on ITAT.
K-Mo - For the life of me, I don't understand Ingram on anybody's Top 3 ballot. But then, I'm a "blue" guy.
Your avatar is still hot.
BEASLEY!!!
Good picks Jay
K_Mo, does your avatar have a kitten under her shirt? That might solve a HABOTN mystery. Well, it might if PaulMain's avatar were a cartoon.
Where has he been, anyway?
Stick Gerhart in the SEC and see how he does...
I'd wager he wouldn't be dragging Rolando McClain down the field like he did those Notre Dame players.
JayGT - thanks for the Stiff Arm Trophy link. Their past results are fascinating. But I'm thinking that I'm probably wasting my time hitting the refresh button on that site every couple of minutes!
He'd lower his shoulder an knock McClain on his butt, homer.
you're right FSJ. He'd just run over him and leave tread marks.
Just kidding. McClain ain't no Bosworth.
This is from a Twitter feed off of the StiffArmTrophy site:
Toby Gerhart is a Heisman finalist. He'll be joined in New York by Mark Ingram, Colt McCoy, Tim Tebow and Ndamukong Suh.
Nothing earth-shattering, there, but if it's correct, at least we know who is invited to NY.
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I'm a blue guy, myself.
FSJ, Gerhart has faced consistently tougher defenses than Ingram while outperforming him. The myth that he wouldn't be as good against the big bad guys in the SEC is just that, a myth.
I never realized Antonio Goodwin decommited, crap
Yeah, Jhag, he did. He might still sign with the good guys.
smellin like a dawg to me
so the four dudes who voted UT #1 Rob Akey from Idaho, Tim Brewster from Minnesota, Mark Dantonio from Michigan State, and Bo Pelini from Nebraska.
Also, Brian Kelly voted Cinci #1...
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/football/2009-final-coaches-ballots.htm
My ballot:
1. Gerhart
2. Gerhart
3. Peter "Big Snacks" Frankenschmidt
that hurts DL :,(
SOrry JHAG... needed some substance to my ballot...
no hard feelings.... if we ever meet I will buy you a cup of rice.
ooooooooooooo no harm done in that case, yay
that's a good ballot, DL. Must have been an off year on college talent in North Korea.
So that was really Jim Rome earlier?
thanks for that link, jhag. Too bad I'm not on the coaches poll. TCU deserves at least one first place vote.
They should just let Al Golden vote and forget the other coaches. Much simpler. He had 1-14 pegged with the exception of a flip at 4/5.
on the list of Heisman voters at the link JayGT provided is one whose affiliation is "blackathlete.net"
I was unable to find the voter who is affiliated with aryanathlete.net.
On Atlanta radio they were throwing out that Georgia should hire tubbs to run the defense for one game.....
He would never do it... but damn that would be fun...
Stiff Arm has updated their tally/projections. Gerhart's projected margin of victory has narrowed, with Suh and Ingram in almost a dead heat for 2nd.
I like your ballot, Jay.
But how can they put the uat kicker on the all-sec team ahead of Byrum? Tiffin missed 3 extra points; Byrum missed only one kick the entire season, and it was a 40+ fg. If he had made that one, and been 100% on the year, would it have made any difference?
So Pasche, Griese, and Spielman are set to announce the Outback Bowl for ESPN. Last time they called an early morning Auburn game, we got pounded in Fayettenam.
BTW, heartbreaking about Spielman's wife. Sad, sad story.
I do not understand the lovefest over Tiffin. I think he got his votes because he is like the scoring leader in the conference. i think that he missed 3 extra points is telling. He flubbed a couple of FGs also. That kick he missed inthe AU game was ridiculous.
I would give the 1st team to the kid from UGA.
Early line has UA favored by 5.5.
I agree with WTC. UGA kicker #1 followed by Byrum. That is how it should have been.
So we know Tebow, Gerhart, McCoy, Suh, and Ingram are going to New York.
Less than Spiller deserves.
JayG-I passed up the front row seats tonight. After seeing them get hammered by Troy, I had to pass on this one.
It is on TV tonight.
Where's Darvin Adams on any of the All-SEC teams?
Bro- snubbed, that's where. He deserves at least 2nd team. All-SEC teams are jokes.
For shame, for shame.
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