Practice report, 4/14
Hey everyone. Practice has ended. Here's what we learned:
- Auburn scrimmaged today. WR Darvin Adams was held out because of a shoulder injury, though he expects to participate in A-Day.
- Adams said DeAngelo Benton had a good day.
- The offense scored at least three touchdowns. They scored two early, which included a long pass from Cam Newton to Benton. He beat T'Sharvan Bell for that touchdown.
- Assistant coach Trooper Taylor was impressed with that play: ``We talk about catching balls in windows. That was a peep-hole. I don't have a drill for that."
- WR Kodi Burns caught a touchdown pass from Newton.
- Wideout Ralph Spry Jr. had a fumble and a touchdown. ``He has to get the track mentality out and become a football player," Taylor said.
- Taylor then turned around and said he's been most impressed with Spry and Blake this spring.
- Taylor said the weird scoring system of 2009 has been ditched. He said the teams will be mixed up (not 1s versus 2s) to provide some different challenges for players.
- LB Craig Stevens (left) said the defense wasn't up to the challenge initially. Once the scrimmage developed a tempo, though, he said the offense began to lose its verve.
- Taylor said the scrimmage mirrored last season (quick start, late struggles) and he let players know about it. He was not happy.
- He indicated that one of the interceptions was because WR Emory Blake made a mistake.
- Stevens said he's been impressed with the way Newton has handled business of the field. The quarterback, he said, arrived without arrogance and quietly worked to build trust.
- Adams said he likes watching Newton play because he brings the deep ball back into the fold. Asked if Newton was the only quarterback capable of throwing deep passes accurately, Adams quickly covered his tracks and said they're all capable.
- There were at least two interceptions -- one each from Ikeem Means and Drew Cole.
- Defensive coordinator Ted Roof (left) said nobody (reporters, fans) should infer things about his rotations based on what's happening right now. We learned the other day that Jonathan Evans was running with the No. 1 defense at strong-side linebacker. I still think that's significant, but Roof insists it isn't. It's important to remember that Daren Bates may fit in here somewhere.
- Roof said Bates, who is out with a shoulder injury, has pieced together a "good mental spring."
- Wes Byrum has been happy with his kicking so far this spring. He hopes to handle both field goals and kickoffs this fall.
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Practice Substance.
Yipee!
Steve FC will have to eat his words now. Eltoro will start and be a star after all!
I hope Wes can get it to the end zone.
North London Derby begins in 2 hours on ESPN2.
For: THT
I guess I'll come back when it's "dolled up." Nothing but substance here now.
Blogger's doing magic tricks.
Ted Roof's rotations allegedly lack substance. We'll see if his lies do.
JGT - I was kidding, of course. If it will make you feel better to "doll this up", then go right ahead. But you don't have to do it for the Hotties. The substance is more than enough.
anyone know when AU's basketball home opener in the Auburn Arena will be? And against whom?
All I needed to see was Cam scoring TDs. If he does that often enough in the regular season, we might win a few.
I'm still adding notes and pictures!
I really hope we see some good quality minutes from Ikeem Means this year.
Mancester Derby begins in less than 72 hours on ESPN2.
Means is having a very good Spring.
Thanks for the updates, JGT.
I am having a great mental spring too.
Go Manchester City!
I need Roof to coach me into having a good "mental Spring." I've had enough with Spring and Summer is threatening.
Come on you Red Devils!
It seems like the INTs keep coming from players I don't think of as starters.
I hope ElToro will live up to the billing, but so far it doesn't appear that is so. He could start, but he hasn't been performing like the star we anticipated.
If National Signing Day is Recruitmas, then the spring game must be ...
A-Dayster!
I hope the A-Dayster Bunny leaves me some serious treats Saturday afternoon.
FIRST!
I just added a bunch of stuff from Trooper Taylor.
Picking up from the previous thread - I've had a massage from a dude in the past. It was part of some physical therapy and was a deep tissue massage which is not a pleasant experience.
u wanna talk about posting in a haboton window? this was a peep hole! there ain't no drill for this!
preach it troop!
norm....TMI!
Websters has this to day re: Eltoro (Who still has 2 years to play football, for those math wizards, that would mean he still has 66% of his college career remaining.)
inconclusive [ˌɪnkənˈkluːsɪv]
adj
not conclusive or decisive; not finally settled; indeterminate
Roget's take:
Adj. 1. inconclusive - not conclusive; not putting an end to doubt or question; "an inconclusive reply"; "inconclusive evidence"; "the inconclusive committee vote"
"conclusive proof"; "the evidence is conclusive"
Are you talking about that LB that's a bust?
I just want to say that while it may not be evident by my performance (or lack thereof) on the HABOTN, I have had an excellent mental spring.
Now if I could only figure how to translate that into execution...
``We talk about catching balls in windows. That was a peep-hole. I don't have a drill for that."
That's front page worthy, JGT.
I'm talking about Know-it-alls calling said LB a bust.
Who's an idiot?
Seanzie, that math is fuzzy, unless you count his year at Auburn as his "College Career," which it is not.
I'm pretty certain my mental spring has sprung.
Wait, what I said is not clear....oh, just figure it out.
PF. I was referring specifically to the window of playing time he has at Auburn.
He arrived as a RS Sophomore. Should he be on the team for all remaining years of eligibility he will have played 3 years.
He has only completed his first year. So 1 year played out of 3 potential years = 1/3 or .3333333, depending on how many decimal places you use. So using our rule of percents, you move the decimal to the right two positions.
If you subtract the new number, from a possible 100 percent, you arrive at 66.6667%, again dependent on decimal places remaining.
my figuring of Seanzie math:
Eltoro arrived with 3 years of eligibility, of which he has used one (rather unproductively). Two of 3 years eligibility remaining = 66.7%.
well, why did I waste my time with math. Is it Fall yet?
I figured, Seanzie, but that's not what you said. You said College Career.
Plus the guy turned out to be not very good.
My bad, PF.
THT, thanks for the double check, you're good people.
Haha this place is full of a bunch of math nerds.
Steve FC - if the INTs are coming from the "non-starters", I wonder which of these are true (if any):
1) the starters are even better, and we're throwing away from them
2) when the non-starters are on the field, the QBs are complacent
3) when the non-starter DBs are on the field, so are the non-starter WRs (and they're not very good).
Only #1 leaves me with a good feeling.
Go Tottenham Hotspur!
Ah a Spuds fan. Well that explains a lot.
It's by default, I just don't like the other side.
Which side is that? There are 19 other teams in the Premier League. And many others in the lower leagues. You'll have to be more specific.
Go Monkey Hangers!
oh wait, they aren't PL.
isn't today basketball signing day?
weren't we supposed to hear (officially) about Barbee's staff?
Finally, why on earth am I just now getting interested in basketball?
HOCKEY PLAYOFFS TONIGHT!!!! The Quest for the Cup makes March Madness look like child's play.
My NHL team made it into the playoffs. Now they need to win a playoff series.
GO BIG GREEN!!!
I was referring to today's match sean.
The NHL is all of a sudden fun to watch when the playoffs start.
I know, Ehyou. I was being difficult.
wake, do not comfuse me with a math nerd. nerd yes. math....not so much.
comfuse....apparently you can't confuse me with an accurate speller either. oh, well.
It should be a good one, a derby match in which both sides desperately need 3 points, I can't wait to watch it.
just watching some old highlights to get fired up for hockey tonight. We lived in Pittsburgh when the Pens beat the Blackhawks for the Stanley Cup in 1992. In game 1, Pens were trailing 4-1 when Jagr madethis goal. Pens won that game 5-4 and swept the Finals.
the radio broadcast included this great comment "there are only 4 people in the entire arena he didn't deke, and 3 of them are ushers."
I scream! You scream! We all scream for Ikeem!
I hope Ikeem is the real deal and intercepts at least one a game.
Byrum is happy but with what, his fieldgoal kicking or his kickoffs. If it is his kickoffs I hope they are going deep into the endzone 99% of the time.
I don't care what you losers think, I really like my musical taste. So there.
I agree Norm, my musical tastes are impeccable.
But I don't really know what your talking about.
wake - That's okay, I rarely know what I'm talking about either. I was just enjoying a particular Bozz Scaggs song on my iPod and figured I'd probably be the only one who'd like him. Since I don't care anything about soccer or hockey, I figured I'd post a random thought.
A few of my faves:
The Lowdown
Somebody Loan Me a Dime
Georgia
ehyou - DING! Georgia is what I was hearing at the time.
Currently playing: "Bring It On Down To My House" by Willie Nelson & Asleep at the Wheel.
I love the syntesizer in the middle of Lido Shuffle. Boz is one of MrsTHT's favs. I saw him (when he still had Toto) in concert, but it was with someone else since MrsTHT wasn't paying me any attn yet.
A buddy of mine after getting in my car with him on: "That's a white dude? Man, that is good stuff."
I got a kick out of that.
Listening to a lot of Band of Horses lately.
still no Basketball news? on SIGNING DAY?!
oh, that's right... we've UNsigned two players.
I thought it was signing month? Weren't players able to sign starting Monday? I have no idea. but the ajc was talking about some dude signing a couple of days ago.
Barbee understands when it is Spring Practice and "A" day is just around the corner you don't talk basketball on the Plains. Cuz nobody will listen. Now if you are in Ky that is a hoss of a different flavor.
In Chris Low's Noon bites
I like what the old ball coach said
No one will have to fire me I will know when it is time and I will say so long.
They won't own me a lot of money either.
I don't know why but I just don't want to be fired, just the way I am.
I plan on being one of the few coaches that can say I worked a lot of years and was never fired.
Early Period
Initial Signing Date November 11, 2009
Final Signing DateNovember 18, 2009
Regular Period
April 14, 2010 through May 19, 2010
Gomes is just stoning Arsenal
Norm ..Boz Scaggs sucks. As for the rest of your musical taste ..there's hope.
well, I just jinxed Gomes
Hey, I like Boz Scaggs. I like his music AND he has a cool name.
PF ...thought you might want to know that according to Bitter, Chandler Brooks (last year's yellow-shoed kicker)made an appearance on the live drills.
welcome back to HABOTN, EPL fans
Good looking out, Hoopie. Did he get new shoes? Yellow shoes kid will see some action this year.
I don't think we got out of the 50s today. What a wonderful day!
time for a Puppet Hour...
Helloooooo Kennesaw, GA!! Go D.A.!!!
Everythinngggg dies, baby that's a fact.
Coach Barbee was in the student center today standing in the 20 minute Chick-Fil-A line with the rest of us. I said hey.
put your makeup on, fix your hair up pretty
I completely and unequivocally dislike the AU student center. I'm a fan of new facilities, but the student center just didn't make the grade.
I miss Foy Union and War Eagle Cafeteria.
I'm a bit post happy today. It sure beats being productive.
Hoopie - on that, we'll have to agree to disagree. Apparently; I'm not alone in that ehyou, THT and cincy also seem to be fans.
re: the mortgage problem from last year... new report "only 1 in 6 troubled homeowners are getting the help they need from the gov't"
I wasn't aware the gov't was supposed to buy everyone a house. I'd like one in the mountains, please.
Barbee set a bad example. Powerful people never wait in line. Chick Fil A is a good product to endorse, though.
Chick Fil A breakfast was always an opportunity to see girls in pajamas and get a chicken biscuit. Worth the trek across campus.
Puppet Hour will close in 5 minutes. Please make your selections and head to the checkout counters.
Eddie Don't Jump!
Durham Bulls home opener tomorrow night, 10 minutes from my house. Two things I've never seen:
1. Bull Durham
2. Durham Bulls
No need in ruining perfection. I'll stay home and watch hockey tomorrow night, just like tonight, just like Friday, just like Saturday etc etc
Coach Barbee doesn't come close to Mr. Bad Example
As a MiLb fan, I would like to see the Durham Bulls...I still need a Macon Braves cap. Someone help me out. Call Adam Wainwright if you have to.
There is a big difference between a player not living up to the hype and a player being a bust. ElToro isn't a bust. He hasn't lived up to the hype. Blame the hype, not the player.
A bust would be someone like Leon Hart, who was hyped, and never made a significant contribution.
A non-bust would be someone like Kodi Burns. He didn't live up to the hype, but he has definitely made significant contributions to Auburn football. If you thought 2008 was bad, it would have been a lot worse without some of the plays Kodi made with his feet.
I thought about signing, but my vert jump numbers were poor this year.
Foy Union is back open, btw. I am lucky enough to have been there the last year it was in its original state.
As for the INTs not being made by the perceived starters, there are lots of possible reasons so I don't want to guess. I just find it an interesting pattern.
PF - you've got a place to stay if you ever come see the Bulls. I can drop you off at the Park and pick you up after the game ;-)
THT, do you have any idea of the danger you just created? I've been known to take people up on offers like that. I'm pretty sure most were horrified when I showed up with an overnight bag because they were just being nice.
Caudle is the starting holder...or so much can be inferred by Byrum talking about the importance of them spending time together as reported by Bitter. Does that put hin ahead or behind Kodi Burns on the QB depth chart?
We can at least say that Caudle is the starting clip board holder.
re: Caudle as #1 holder...
I don't know, PF, but it should cut down on his INTs.
a few days advance notice would be helpful to make sure we are here. Or you can just sleep on the front porch if we're not.
Does the fg/pat holder carry a clipboard? I thought tht was reserved for people who might actually have a chance to throw (on plays other than bad snaps, of course).
I'm going to be terrified every tine Wes lines up. If the snapper doesn't get it right and Caudle has to throw, we're talking touchback or 100 yard INT.
Btw, I'm kidding. I <3 NC. He's working hard to find a place he can contribute, and should be praised.
THT, you're right about Gomes, three pretty ridiculous saves in the waning minutes. I wish Van Persie would have come on earlier. Even after the layoff he was easily the best player on the pitch.
Its currently a Salsarita's and a few other small things. The ole WEC is no longer in service.
how do you think they will divide up the teams for A-Day? I vote for the classic schoolyard version of selecting teams at midfield before the game.
Who do you think would get picked first?
Hey ROn.
howdy Pf
I think Kodi and Caudle are team captains. Cam gets picked first. Wes Byrum gets picked second.
My picks would be
1. Cam Newton (he should be all-time QB)
2. Ryan Pugh
3. Hot Carter
4. Darvin Adams
5. Craig Stevens
Just realized that Biff actually has a real podcast now, in the iTunes store and everything. I'm a little stoked on that.
Bull Durham is very worth watching.
Biff Tannen?
Penguins just as mediocre in playoff hockey as they were the last month of regular hockey.
Ottawa 22-2-1 when leading after 1st period this year. They were up 2-1 after first tonight, now it's 3-1. From a Penguins perspective, this is ugly.
Man, I like Survivorman and Man Versus Wild, but it would be much more exciting if they would surprise them occasionally not pick them up after a week. A Sahara desert bonus week would add much more drama to the show and I am sure these guys would be surprised.
close, Kevin "Biff" Broughton
biff was at a comedy club in bham back in february. the clips of his standup that were on the radio were fairly funny you buttheads.
Ahhh, one of the dudes from the Hatin' station in Jackson. Cool. As far as morning shows, I'd say better than most.
Some schticks never die chip.
I have an American Idol improvement too. A trap door for the elimination show would add a lot of excitement to it.
Cancelling it would improve it, too, SteveFC.
I vote for cancellation too. What phone number do I have to call for that?
You people just don't appreciate good music. You are voted off the island.
i just got home & my wife is watching American Idol. i hate this show. i vote for cancellation.
i went out to the Tennessee Titans Carvan here in knoxville. it was cool. i met Gerald McRath & Kenny Britt. i'll have a couple pics on facebook tomorrow.
My vote is cancelling anything with the "reality" label....
Kennesaw State's women's soccer team warrants a $16.5 million, 8300 seat stadium? Forget the budget shortfalls that cause program cuts!
The only reality show I like is "Shark Tank". Inventors present ideas to investors. The investors are capable of quick, valid financial analysis.
Otherwise Reality shows bite.
There's nothing "real" about "reality" shows... that's why I hate them...
Kennesaw St has a burgeoning liberal student population. Someone is probably screaming
for Title 9 equality. My neighbor just retired as the registrar, I'll ask him.
They don't even have a football team (Vince Dooley is heading up the feasibility study). Women's sports outnumber men's sports 8-6. If this is Title IX, all 23,000 of their students should be shipped off to a desert in Africa to fight against wild hyenas...not that they shouldn't, anyway.
baseball team ahead 7-1 top of 8th.
Hunter Morris has a HR and 2 rbi.
Game is over, WTC... AU won 13-1 tonight...
Reality shows are modern day game shows. Some of it stinks, but some stuff is great. Junkyard Wars is a great program. I hope they have a follow on show called Redneck Wars where they build stuff from junk they find in their yard. I am sure it would be a hit.
Hello everyone. Haven't been around much this week because I am in BR, LA. Rest easy though because I have been mentally posting.
thanks miller. My game tracker is hung up.
Don't underestimate the value of a bunch of women running around in shorts. It could catch on.
Statements of fact:
1. Boz Skaggs is awesome, particularly on "Lowdown" and "Lido Shuffle."
2. Back in the day, Norm slow danced to "Love, Look What You've Done to Me" and had the ladies eating out of the palm of his hand.
who's up for Momma G's this Friday at 11:30am in Montgomery?
C'mon Reyes... don't blow it for my Cardinals...
If I can get away I might be able to make it, WTC...
Possibly ... I'm broke ... we bought ElTurbo a replacement vehicle today.
I've had to go out to lunch each day this week, and I've got another tomorrow.
Jay G!!! Brandon Knight...thats the guy ive told people about for 2 years on this thing...played with him for 4 years won 3 state titles in a row for AAU...hes gonna be a stud and has a 4.3 at the best academic school in florida
And now, young JHag, my dreams of the Brandon Knight-JHag backcourt opening the Auburn Arena next season are crushed.
Crushed.
UGGGH FACEBOOK CHAT IS DOWN UGGGHHH CODE RED CODE RED
Ouch that hits close to home Jet, I let ya down!! Your a good man though dont take it personal!!
Naw, we good, Jhag. You didn't go to another SEC school. Otherwise, I'd have to petition the man to have the franchise tag taken off.
The NCAA, though, might want to quiz you about the car and the cash inducements to go to Tally.
Tax day tomorrow. If in Montgomery, post office will not extend the hours like normal. Better get the return in by 6:00pm. I gotta go write a check tonight. Joe Biden says it is my patriotic duty to pay taxes. spoken by someone that signs the back of a check and not the front of one.
No more political stuff from me. back to all things AU.
The coaches have come up with snappy names for things such as Tiger Trek, Tiger Prowl, and Big Cat Weekend. Someone get them to work on some for A-Day, maybe the Tiger Bowl or something. Man, I can't believe they haven't done it already.
I ate in Ft Meade today and noticed a 2004 Ft Meade High football poster that had FAH on it. I couldn't figure out how he would have been on the team in 04. Later in the night I realized Ft Meade is a middle/high school.
Junkyard Wars? When was the last time you turned on the TV? Seriously awesome show, though. Junkyard Wars/ Battle Bots was a great lineup.
Calipari signs two of the top recruits in the country, while Barbee was sighted wasting 20 minutes in line at Chick Fil A, followed by the AU Baseball game in the VIP booth. Guess who wins? (Hint: it isn't Barbee, even though his day sounds pretty good to me).
Ole Miss one ups Urban Meyer. Control the out-of-control media! They might actually be able to report something if you don't.
Junkyard Wars has been rerunning on Discovery or one of those channels. Fun show. So is Pawn Stars, Deadliest Catch is better.
I saw on the news that a mother duck was taken by hawk. The two remaining ducks are now protected by chicken wire. They did not consider that the hawk may also have chicks to feed. It was obviously the bad guy.
Carnivores always get a bad rap.
So do Nazis.
But Oskar Schindler was a Nazi.
Well. I hate to follow Nazi's.
Good morning and happy tax day to you Hotties. Hope you enjoy doing your patriotic duty of paying the man. It's also Hot Wife's birthday. She'll never read this but rest assured that I've already told her happy birthday in person.
Hi Hotties,
Been at Toyota for an hour now. Fun way to spend a vacation day. I like Pawn Stars, even though the show makes me want to fast for a month. One episode had an old map! One from a mid 18th century London magazine of an Amercian colony or colonies...I don't remember. They made way too much fuss over it; it wasn't that special.
Schindler was a mensch. I'm not going to say that Nazis "get a bad rap," though. The perception and blame is justified.
A built-in reminder for your wife's b-day every year is nice to have.
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Opening in October will be Broadway play about Vince Lombardi. Saw on news this morning that NFL will help produce it. As a former personal friend* of Lombardi, I look forward to seeing it.
*as defined by riding on an elevator with him in a Baltimore hotel and asking for his autograph.
Full disclosure...I hate Nazis.
Lombardi was before my time, but I don't imagine him as a Broadway musical kind of guy.
OK, play not musical. Still...
PF- Where to begin. I see you are ripping Kennesaw State for their new $16M dollar stadium without having the facts. The facts are these: the money coming for the stadium are made up of Private Donations and alumni giving, not anything to do with the public budgets, Women's soccer is actually a revenue generating sport for KSU and lastly, the Atlanta Beat Women's professional team will be playing there as well as KSU. Easy for you to rip them without knowledge of what is going on. My wife works for KSU and the stadium is a big deal for the students and alumni, especially since their investment in the place wasn't 100%. She is also getting furloughed, and if this stadium had come from public funds it would not have happened. Also, to rip KSU for having more women's sports than Men sports is ludicrous. I have two girls and love that KSU has all the women's sports that they do. I'm looking forward to taking them to a game in the new stadium. But please, go ahead and keep ripping what you don't know and women's sports or the "lack" of men sports. I love Title IX and always have and so be it if the women have more sports than the men. It won't be long before KSU has a football team.
Lombardi singing would be hilarious. Speaking of hilarious, I just read this news bite from the 1889 Roanoke Beacon, published in Washington County, NC:
A STRANGE ROCK. - The latest excitement is caused by the reported Electric rock, found near Morehead City, this State.It seems as if a certain locality in that section has been visited by an unearthly noise of late and no one had tried to find from whence it came, until last week, when a gentleman discovered this rock. By applying the telephone wire to it, it was found that the noise was caused by the vibration of the voices of Chinamen.
This rock is supposed to connect from this side of the earth to the other. A committee has been appointed to investigate the matter, which will visit China and try to find the other end of this strange rock. Be this true it will not be long before communication will be obtainable directly the earth, as well as under the sea.
So, did someone get a free trip to China out of this ruse?
I'm beginning to think that Eddie and Peter are going to have a serious disagreement one day.
Hopefully not on HABOTN :)
I am just this side of dead. I did 52 minutes on the elliptical this morning. I was shooting for 60, but couldn't quite make it. Maybe if my movie had been longer....
To Auburn this afternoon!!!!
The problem with the soccer situation at Kennesaw State is that it is a manifestation of the insidious Europeanization of our sovereign nation. It creeps in here, as well, with discussions of European soccer teams, who should be grateful that we saved their 244s back in World War II.
In my Contract with HABOTN, we will never speak of soccer again -- unless Auburn becomes competitive or starts a men's program.
Jet,
You keep me on my toes with your many aliases.
Jay,
Enjoyed the article on AU football in today's MA.
Mancester United versus Manchester City on Saturday.
Can't wait!
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Uh-oh. Ebro didn't heed the mandate. I'd expect dire consequences if I were you.
I ain't scurred.
Well...maybe a little.
Jet is trying old political tactics that will not work here :)!
I still like errybody, but I also still don't like soccer.
Soccer was not good to me yesterday. It happens.
I do have some good news. After a 6 month hiatus from trivia, my friends and I returned to continue our quest for the no. 1 spot and 50 bucks at our local pizza chain.
We were shorthanded, as we usually have 6 players and we only had 4. We played fair and were sitting in 6th place going into the final question, about 7 points from first.
We bet the max 15 points on the final question and got it right to take down the win and the 50 bucks. Our randomly chosen team name we've never used before: Cam Newton 4 Heisman.
I personally think it's an omen. A harbinger of good things to come. And to think, this happened the week of A-Day. Coincidence? I think not.
After reading this blog for a couple of years I do believe that you men have a much worse case of 'raging' hormones than us meek and mild women!!!!!!!!
Soccer has not been good to me for two weeks now.
I'm hoping that changes on Saturday, or on June 12 in Rustenberg, South Africa.
Failing that, Auburn better beat Alabama this year or else my sports Gods have totally forsaken me.
as my physiology professor at AU once said, "You can synthesize an enzyme, but you can't make a hormone"
Time to flip it.
wow ALL flights in UK and in some parts of Europe cancelled due to volcanic ash
Norm, where you is?
200.
Boom.
$.25 to Will Muschamp.
One Habotn.
THT, you are phonetically funny, if slightly off color.
Seanzie - where is your pizza establishment ?
Blue Moon Pizza on Windy Hill Road.
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