Summarizing the morning talks
Here's a cleaner summarization of what has been discussed today:
Photo credit: Todd Van Emst/Auburn University
Questions? Comments? Post directly to the blog below or email me at jgtate@gannett.com.
- Jacobs said he and university president Jay Gogue gave Tuberville the $5.1 million buyout basically as a gift to his 10 years of service. Since Tuberville resigned, the school technically wasn't on the hook for that money. Auburn elected to give him that money. Tuberville also agreed to hang around in Auburn and help the school in various ways that weren't described.
- Auburn told Tuberville that he wouldn't be saddled by the buyout clause if he sought another job. The contract states Tuberville would owe Auburn $5.1 million if he left for another gig.
- Jacobs said he had no intention of firing Tuberville at any point.
- Jacobs said Tuberville's resignation was not coaxed and, in fact, Jacobs repeatedly asked the coach to stay.
- Jacobs said Auburn has retained Bill Carr and Associates, a Florida-based search firm, to assist in the quest for Tuberville's successor.
- Jacobs said cost will be no object in terms of hiring the next coach.
- Jacobs said his search will be "efficient," but he said there will be "no rush to judgment."
- Current assistants may or may not stay to provide support as Auburn makes the transition from Tuberville to The Next Guy. Some of those guys have guarantees and some don't.
Photo credit: Todd Van Emst/Auburn University
Questions? Comments? Post directly to the blog below or email me at jgtate@gannett.com.
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Could you smell the BS in the room while all of this was going down?
The fact that they gave him the money proves my (and many others') theory that the money was there all along.
There was some b.s. in there, sure, but not a ton.
Some of these people have no idea what they're talking about.
"Eventually, I'll have to get a job, go back to work." - Tuberville
Maybe Tubs can take this time to listen to Dave Ramsey and save a little.
LOL!
Couldn't resist!
That sure is a nice gift...was JJ wearing a Santa Suit during the meeting?
yeah JGT, I am with you....I think the cool thing to do to right now is saying everything is B.S. I was actually pleased with what was said today.
I went and asked my boss if he would pay me t0 years salary to retire..he's a FSU fan..he just looked at me..some people don't know how to treat people..
10*
scottal: It was this outfit: http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o256/priloz/bunny2.jpg
who cares.
Hire a great coach.
Forget Strong. I'd take Larry Blakeney over Charlie Strong.
But he would probably bring CTF back.
I am Auburn Graduate and Lifetime Alumni Member. If Tubbs resigned, I think Giving Tubbs 5.1 Mil. In addition to Salary etc... is a Jacobs & President them being Bad Stewards. It is The Wrong thing to Do!!!!
Mark,
I think Auburn has their sights set a little higher.
If I'm Auburn, I make Butch Davis tell me no and then move down the line.
Alright, so basically we can dissect the comments that Jacobs made all day, but it won't matter. What matters is we have a new coach coming and it's an exciting time in the program.
Anon,
They are not using university funds...all private money.
FSJ, TOS.
You are probably right. I think Blakeney would be a good hire though.
Mark,
Blakeney burned his bridge in 1990. Fell on the sword for Pat Dye 2 years later.
Muschamp's house off the market and flying into Columbus, GA for a recruiting visit today?
I'm not surprised at how people are reacting. It seems people today are always just looking far too deeply into every single comment that is made.
While I don't accept everything as fact. I also don't accept everything as being a cover up. The truth is somewhere in between.
That 5.1 Mil could go to other places at the University so it is a waste - bad use of Donations.
They are not using university funds...all private money. Is it Tax deductible?
FSJ,
I wonder how hard it would be for Davis to say "no" to $5 mill a year?
Anon,
Technically not tax deductible but sometimes it can be by sending the funds to one of Tubs charities or something of that nature. As for donations, there are individuals whose sole purpose is to support the athletic (aka football) department...this is one of the those times
I'm guessing that money was raised specifically for this situation.
I don't think any of us have an idea what we're talking about Jay, how would we?
I'll just come along for the ride and see where Mr. Jacobs leads us.
To me it sounded like Auburn didn't care if tuberville left, but if he stayed he they wanted a strong say in who was on his staff next year.
I missed the press conference live. Anybody have a link to the video?
Ron, jacobs said he was given NO strict ultimatum (sp) about staff.
The "tired" comment sticks with me.
Interesting read over at The Bleacher Report
Not trying to draw you attention from the HABOTN, but this is interesting.
Is it common for universities to hire a search firm? I know Jacobs has done that in the past with other sports, but it seems like a waste of money when it comes to finding football coaches. Why is the AD hiring someone to do his job for him?
They weren't going to ask Tuberville to make changes. He was going to make changes, but there weren't guidelines and wouldn't have been guidelines.
back to the personal things make you do things others wouldn't understand....young guys just dont' understand those things until you've been there....i won't say it again because I am tired of talking about it...I think he's gone to ESPN and wish him well...on to the next coach and don't really care
Search firms? Common, no doubt.
Not saying I agree with that report
Would it be worth 5mil to have 2 or 3 more seasons like this? I don't think so. Give TT credit for having a good lawyer(Beasley) draw up his contract. Either wat it's time to move on!
Wareaglegirl,
What are you trying to tell us?
I'm 29 and would like to know.
I think everyone's poo pooing B. Davis because he terrifies them.
Spurrier - well, he left UF because his AD didn't back him up after the FSU players were shown to be trying to hurt his guys.
Does anyone else remember the recruits who were ok'd by the NCAA and not admitted by So Car?
Hmmm, would we take CSS?
So he wasn't going to make changes or be forced to make changes. Why did he resign again? How'd it go from him wanting to stay and feeling like he was the one to turn it around, to him resigning? I guess we'll have to wait for the rest of the story.
Mrs,
Good article although a little biased wouldn't you say?
Mr. S not Mrs
The blog posted above by Mr Sensible, "Tommy Tuberville Earned His Fate at Auburn," earned a loud laugh from me and a few fellow hacks.
Tuberville meddling in the offense? Is that a joke?
The funny thing about taht article is that it just so happens to be almost identical to a story Jay-G has said about TT and his kickers. Always bad mouthing them!
Jay, what was the little bit of BS that you perceived? Surely part of it is when JJ said he had not thought about 36-0 since Saturday night. I've tried to forget too, but not as well as him apparently.
Also, if the University is willing to pay $5.1 million as a gift for ten years service, do you think I could get $15,000 for four years of dilligent studying and pay off the rest of my student loans?
Hey Jay, do we know any other prominent coaching searches that the Bill Carr folks have helped with?
alan...talked about mid-life too much already...didn't understand in my 20's either....just saying I understand the tiredness now...realize a lot of things are not worth the hassle now or even important anymore like they were in the 30's and I would definitely take the 5mil and lay around for a while.......!!!!! Enough already about being old
To the guy who wrote the bleacher report... it only takes a minute to do research and find out "original offensive coordinator" = Noel Mazonne.
Instead of going out of his way to remember or find the name, he just refered to him in generic terms.
So why exactly did he resign?
The bleacher report is trash....the 'articles' are written by fans!
JustWinAU
You may be on to something.
Check this out!
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N454TB
The plane belongs to the borad of regents - Austin Tx
Phillip Marshall ---
Steve Spurrier: some think there's reason to believe Spurrier woulod listen if Auburn called.
Will they call?
Fired or not, resigned or not, I wish CTT well. He obviously had the support and respect of his players who saw more of him than any of us. I trust their input more than any others in this instance. So long as they feel the way that Bosley expressed, then Tommy can walk away with his head held high. As a leader, you really can't ask for more than that
Personally, I would just like to express thanks to him for the last 10 years.
War Eagle, Tommy! We'll miss you.
Sullivan013
You don't have to be older to wanna get paid for not working, ill promise you that :)
Struttin, I can't take credit for it, I just heard it and repeated it. It is a big coincidence that Muschamp is flying into Columbus, GA today and as Mr. S reported his house is now off the market. Makes one wonder...
The Bleacher Report has been incredibly wrong in all of this. They spew out speculations in strong declarative statements as if they are the truth and don't bother to post retractions or apologies. Many folks the just parrot BR as if it is their own idea.
Why should BR now have credibility or be worth reading?
Win,
I think we would have sent a jet for him if anything was a done deal. However, it is one heck of a coincidence!
Well Put Sullivan
Why he resigned:
a.) Upset with Auburn dragging its feet prompts additional introspection
b.) The project starts looking bigger than initially believed
c.) The fractures created in 2003 and beyond still exist and, you know, that becomes a factor at some point
So chew on that and tell me I'm full of b.s.
It's mostly sensational stuff, I agree, Hoopie. But it beats tracking flights. LOL
I am schedule to appear on WMSP around 1:30 cst.
Um....yeah.....I don't think I want Muschamp, sooooo....let's just hope this is some sort of coincidence.
Do we really think Texas would give him their plane for a job interview?
Struttin, that's what I would think. But while he is so close to Auburn why not have a little discussion?
Jay, works for me. Sounds very reasonable.
Muschamp being the gung-ho type of guy he is, stole the Texas plane and flew it over here. I can see it now.
The Bleacher Report is made up of fans who submit articles so I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for "retractions" etc. It's mostly opinion stuff. They've even emailed me to submit something on Tuberville. Why? Because I registered there to comment on a really great article I read there once. So, there ya go.
Jay,
Please tell these points to Doug. He needs help sometimes.
Is this multiple choice? If so I'll go with all of the above, which points to this situation being badly mishandled on Auburn side.
Jay G, your reasoning is not nearly sensational enough for some people here. They want scandle and wanna think the worse about one side or the other.
I can totally see it goind down the way you describe. You won't hear me say you're full of BS. Well not about this anyway ;-)
I'm not buying Jacobs or the BOT explanations. I think it's butt coverage, pure and simple. I think CTT was let go but they worked out something that looked more amiable publicly so Auburn could save face (to whatever extent it could). I'm hearing too much static from those close to CTT that says different than what Jacobs just put out there. Then there's the interview of CTTs mother saying he was fired. I don't think she blurts that out or has that impression if CTT really resigned.
RK, Ok that I would actually believe Muschamp would do ;-)
jay as usual you are right on!!!!
I can believe everything you are saying
Does the So CAr folk appreciate CSS??
http://media.www.dailygamecock.com/media/storage/paper247/news/2008/09/23/Sports/Should.Usc.Replace.Steve.Spurrier-3445507.shtml?refsource=collegeheadlines
Jay G,
I implore you on behalf of the Hottie nation to bring it like you always do on The Roundtable.
Jay did I hear JJ say in the press conference that AU was 4th in the SEC in overall natl championships (all sports) with the top 3 being all State universities?
well, duh...
only Vandy and Auburn have "non-state" names in the SEC
Yeah Jay G.
You should have said these three things happened:
a) Jacobs tried the old dead hooker in a cake routine to set Tub up after watching Arrested Development and it backfired.
b) Jacobs called Bobby Petrino and said "Bobby, we're axing the Tub" then realized that he accidently called Tub's cell phone instead.
c) Jacobs and Tub had a secret agreement to method act where he could go out and make up his own story and Tub would just follow along.
Jacobs told Tommy he'd get 5.1 million to never discuss the above items.
Bryan - On what do you base your opinion?
bryan, mothers say lots of things to protect their children
JGT,
Based on your next to last comment i sense frustration..?
I think Jay G knocked it out of the park.
Sometimes things just quit working and you look up and you realize that you are not as effective as you want to be or you once were. His commment about getting the players that will come to Auburn tells me he was starting to hit the ceiling. When you have the fire, you have this idea that you can any player you want if you work hard enough.
It sounds like when he was laying it out for next year, he knew the answer. Especially if you consider everything Jay G mentioned, which is right on point.
No shame in leaving. CTT has been good for Auburn and is someone that I wish would stay at Auburn for the foreseeable future in Alumni relations.
Looking forward to hearing you Jay..I usually don't get to catch your interviews..excited I am..
Denny I think you are right on.
It is interesting to read comments from some of the group on here. I feel like there may have been someone else on the "grassy knoll."
I agree with Jay G.'s assessment because it makes sense to me and because ummm HE'S THERE AND KNOWS THE SITUATION BETTER THAN ANYONE POSTING HERE.
Does the Roundtable do sports anymore?
There were aliens on the grassy knoll, AU1N04.
You didn't know?
Who does everyone want for head coach?
Did he just say Trivia Girls? Please tell me I missed them..
denny........right on!
monica....i was wondering if JGT was going to talk about the Christmas clearing house
It was Colonel Mustard in the Conservatory with the Rope...
I love the leading question of "how much did you buy that was said earlier?"
Instead of asking "What were your thoughts on what was said earlier?"
Ya know cynicism is easy and popular. If you're going to call a man a liar on the air how about telling us why you think he's a liar.
Texas Tech defensive back (housemate of Crabtree) arrested for felony possession with intent to distribute in excess of 50 grams of cocaine
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Where are the Del Rio rumors?
I saw that JustWin. Crazy.
Maybe that's why Leach wants out!
So Jay G...do you beleive that they offered to give him the money? If you do, you only have a half a brain according to KS
Jay,
I know for a fact work productivity has grinded to a halt the last two days across the state. I have been holed up in my office, door closed, blogging, going from site to site.
I hope Leach goes to Washington.
that "bleacher report" article is ridiculous.
Jay, surely tommy never has to work again if he doesn't want to. outside of being gogue's errand boy
b.) The project starts looking bigger than initially believed
hahaha, monday it didn't look too bad but wednesday it looked terrible.
here's my order. remember I don't know what the hell I'm talking about though..
Cowher..Spurrier..Turner
I'm glad tuesday and thursdays are my work at home days. I have my work laptop and my home comptuer side by side.
Wartiger,
Norv Turner?
Johnson..Gruden..Mushcamp..Fisher
John Paul George and Ringo
Couldn't resist
I keep screwing up that guys name and you keep callin me on it..I'm gonna call him Buffalo from now on
Norv Turner, I have seen him down at the Senior Bowl down here, the man can rock a mock turtle neck and he looks like Edward James Olmos's brother in the face, ie walked into some buckshot.
I don't know about Paul, he seems to be the guy out of the foursome who takes far more credit than everyone else.
Also, no Ringo. Not experienced enough as a front man.
i'd be terrified to play for bill cowher if i was 18 years old. He scares me a little through the t.v.
Wartiger,
Just picking on ya.
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My top 3 would be...
1. Johnson from GT
2. Butch Davis
3. Bill Cowher (if he brings in a Rodney Garner type as a recruiting coordinator since I'm not sure he's ever recruited. However being a Steelers fan, I love the guy.)
And I picked today of all days to sober up... :-)
Did Brian become Ragamuffin?
I find it hard to believe that others find it hard to believe that CTT have been ready to go. It always has to be some nefarious booster sliding money here or there and power politics. I beleive there some coach speak going on. But by and large, I think things happened rather amicably and CTT took Auburn by surprise. Not because he was trying to screw them, but because he was ready to go.
Call me the ingenuous old ball coach.
Jay G, whatcha bidding?
Bill Cowher or Jesse the Body Ventura, they look the same to me.
Is Jay still going on?
Did anyone see that article from underthebleachersreport.com? I think it was written by Seymour Butts.
Sorry, I'm using my friend's computer right now and he has a blogger account. A reprint:
Monica,
I base it on contacts close to CTT and his family and the interview CTT's mom gave that emphatically said he did not resign, he was fired. Yes, mothers protect their sons, but the more protective thing to do here would have been to say her son decided to step down and take some for himself...make it on his terms rather than on theirs.
Basically, I trust the people I know more than I trust Jacobs or the BOT.
Remember that movie The Happening that was so bad the guy said afterwards he wanted to go out and stab a tree...
Roundtable...move it along
Sadly, I can't listen today. Somebody summarize when Jay gets done.
TIA,
Faker
anyone but leach
No Del Rio anymore? He was a hot one last night.
Anyone else think like me and the true story is Jacobs was a Sammy Hagar guy and Tub was a David Lee Roth guy and they just couldn't work it out after all these years and decided not to try anymore?
Jay are you still going on? If not I'm switching to JOX>
no radio. They apparently don't have time.
bryan you know all this because you know who?
i get back from lunch anxious to hear more coaching talk and i get..........a forced bidding war on the roundtable? what the heck is going on down there?
aw...jay I thought you were bidding
As for the Texas plane headed for Columbus ... Muschamp is actively recruiting Jarvis Jones, a linebacker out of Carver High School in C-town. Still, interesting timing.
You are right Coach Crum. Sometimes you just need a change. I hated to come to work today. I dislike my job and what I do. Came because I had to. Wish I could wake up tomorrow and say you know what, I think I'll just resign.
Jay, you are way too rational for these times.
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it was a surprise to me.
Ya know there's research available from the Association of Fundraising Professionals that proves that this sort of over saturation is bad for your fundraising efforts.
Just saying...
Ladies and Gents I am in some pain...
I just bought the new Daniel Moore Blackout Print for my Dad this Christmas.... Framed, no less. That was tough:)
I am happy for Christmas Clearing House.....but that also means I don't have to listen to Doug and Josh and their cynicism anymore
Oh scottatl, say it aint so...
If they had planned on firing CTT all along, wouldn't they just have done it on Monday?
what are we raising money for? i got like 400 dollars in my savings account
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I apologize. That was out of line and classless.
Sorry gang.
Sad to say Kristina but the good thing about my dad being a Bama fan is that Christmas gifts are always a no-brainer
Come on over to the dark side scottatl.....
The roundtable guys remind me of the date you take to the Iron Bowl that wants to talk about the band the whole time...
Good grief. Biggest Sports News day of the year and they want to have a raffle? Are you kidding me?
War Eagle Girl,
I can't give out names. They gave me the go ahead to tell what they told me, but not to broadcast who they are. They are friends of CTT and his family. That's all I can say. There are a couple of other folks saying the same thing, but they aren't as connected as the main ones I'm drawing on.
What did you buy him the last 6 years, scott?
I hate that you aren't going to be on there today Jay G. They need a voice or reason today.
No way I can listen to Finebaum today, I can only imagine how bad the callers will be.
I hear the dark side has pudding, scott, so they have that going for them I guess.
Bryan, it's a rule to agree with Jay Tate around here because he's in Auburn.
How can anyone doubt Jay's account of what went down? It's not how I thought it would happen, but Jay obviously knows people and he has made no secret of not being an AU fan so he has no conflict of interest. I appreciate the info I would never get on my own.
Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr......
99% of the time, I do agree with Jay. And it's not that I don't trust Jay G. It's Jacobs and the mouthpieces for various BOT members I distrust.
scottatl....dude, you disappoint me. i understand buying him a pro-whatever team as long as it's not anti-auburn. shame shame.
i take a snack pack to lunch every day. i love pudding
is that the girlfriend of the brother of the next door neighbor who uncle knows the sister....
my daughter actually goes to church with the Tubervilles and it would still be her opinion
I understand frustration because everyone wants to talk about what happened today, but those guys are doing a good deed, so I can excuse them for taking time away from the show for this.
Tim, we agree with Jay G around here because he checks his facts AND if he makes a mistake, he then owns up to it and corrects himself.
Well in the last six years Daniel Moore did a number of paintings from the past (Stabler, LeRoy Jordan, Van Tiffin Reissue etc) and he also did one for Tyrone Prothro's catch. Also, they also came out with the houndstooth baseball cap and the Saban sun hat. Never a shortage.
I agree scottatl...
Despite protestations from some around here.. (ahem) there is no shortage of great Alabama moments to commemorate..
My most prized possesion is a painting entitled.. Mike Price: Rolling with Destiny.
Scott, i am so glad I don't work in an art/frame store anymore.
scottie b....dude i am ashamed..but trust me there is nothing else on this world he would want (beside the painting of Saturday night if they win)
War Eagle Girl,
It's not one of those situations and it's not their opinion.
What you should buy him is a Scottie B. original.
Your a good son, Scott.
Thanks Nina!
got to go.....hope the next time i look we'll have a new coach
scottatl, at the very least i'm proud of you from resisting the brainwashing of your crimson-clad father (no offense FSJ). my best friend survived the same upbringing.
thanks for the pub miss monica. maybe one day you can be lucky enough to hang a 'scottie b' above your mantle!
I gave in and listened to Finebaum... the 1st two calls were Auburn fans who make us all look bad, and thankfully he cut them off quickly.
I'll hang yours if you'll hang mine.
who's being 'coy' now monica?
my dad is a bama grad and really annoying fan, but i fought the dark side and won. I'm like a way cooler Luke Skywalker
That wasn't coy.
coy adjective
1. artfully or affectedly shy or reserved; slyly hesitant; coquettish.
2. shy; modest.
3. showing reluctance, esp. when insincere or affected, to reveal one's plans or opinions, make a commitment, or take a stand:
(my mother = bama, I overcame - Auburn scholarship helped lol)
According to Red Raider Sports, Leach has withdrawn his name from consideration for the HC job at Washington. Just thought I would pass that info along.
my dad grew up in opelika, and is still a huge bama fan and grad as is my uncle. i think they're imbalanced
My boss said if blog anymore he will offer me a bailout of no 401k and I can take my coffee mug with me when i get fired.
mon, as soon as i hit the 'publish' button i knew you were going to call me out on that. just knew it. oh, well.
harrison, how much cooler can you be than Luke Skywalker? oh, wait, Han Solo. my bad....continue.
Wow,
Aliens, pudding, paintings...
I love catching up on a few hours worth of posts that I missed.
I'm sorry Scottie. I shouldn't have. You're too sweet to get called out.
Han Solo...infinitely cooler than Luke Skywalker, yes. Infinitely. As in extending beyond, lying beyond, or being greater than any preassigned finite value however large.
Jay, do you not think Tuberville meddled with the offense and limited what his coordinators could do?
wow kristina. you must've had a lunchtime latte today.
Tommy meddling in the offense?
Come on. Of all the things to think he did, that's is very low on the list.
Fake Steve -- As a card carrying, poodle molesting Bammer, what coach that's been mentioned would you NOT WANT to see in Auburn.
None can touch Superman.
Jay, off all the stuff you heard and reported on today, tell us which parts of it you feel to be BS?
As far as I'm concerned, I'm not taking public information and spinning it into something else without a foundation. ESPN and hacks like Finebaum make use of such tactics.
There was a press conference. There were comments by an AD. That AD answered very specific questions with answers that were logical. There's always speculation. But if there's nothing to back it up with these hacks should not report otherwise.
Go...
Chris,
Paul Johnson
Butch Davis
Petrino
Mike Leach is officially a candidate now. Oh boy...
http://www.thestate.com/gogamecocks/story/609642.html
whooooooooa
Hold on. Spurrier has halted his staff hirings!!
espn is reporting that Leach is no longer condsidering Washington
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=3745354
Would any of you really like to see Leach as Auburn's next HC?
You may hear that Hugh Nall is/will be a candidate at South Carolina.
Don't believe the hype. (... if there is any.)
I may go into the b.s. zone later.
Not right now.
JG - will anyone from AU call Spurrier?
I'm not really for Leach, plus I hope the speculation about Spurrier is just that. What has he done at SC that is wholly more impressive than what Tubs did at Auburn?
Jay, don't do it if you don't think it's good for business. I just hate to see the story contorted by all these jackassed because they don't have another story right now.
I just don't see Leach fitting in at Auburn personally. He just doesn't seem to be a good fit, and that is without even thinking of his style of football.
I agree RK. Not sure about Leach at all.
Leach = no
Leach = Terry Bowden Redeux
Please don't say what Spurrier has done at So Car means he can't coach.
Please.
Just for me.
Please.
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