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12.03.2008

Your Mid-Day Update

Hey everyone. Nothing more to report. I have seen Tuberville since the last time I updated, but he didn't say anything that adds to this situation.

UPDATE (@2:15 p.m.): Tuberville and Jacobs meeting in Tuberville's office right now.

One thing to keep an eye on is how this awkward delay affects recruits. They're antsy. Auburn has taken care to speak with TE Philip Lutzenkirchen, QB Raymond Cotton Jr., LB Eltoro Freeman and TB/WR Onterrio McCalebb in recent days.

It's been hit or miss with the other commitments.

I find that odd.

238 Comments:

riskman108 said...: Thanks for the update...; 1:24 PM
WarEagleRK said...: They are trying to lock in the big time guys and possibly pulling away from some of the ones they have lost interest in?

Who knows?; 1:30 PM
michael said...: This is all a ploy by Auburn to increase hits on Auburn blogs. Genius.; 1:31 PM
Quitstina said...: Oh just get on with it already; 1:31 PM
Roland said...: Trying to check to see if they are sticking with Tubs and crew or sticking with AU. Could get interesting.; 1:31 PM
FSJ said...: Sounds like they are giving the spread focused recruits the same treatment "some folks" I know used to give the 2AM hotties the next morning.; 1:32 PM
Jet said...: I just looked it up in my German to English dictionary.

Lutzenkirchen (noun): Trott with hands.; 1:33 PM
Quitstina said...: So what are our possible reasons for the delay?

1. Deciding what coaches to get rid of.

2. Trying to stall until we get a new head coach lined up.

3. No one knows WTH is going on with anything so they are just staring at each other waiting for the other one to speak first.

What am I missing?; 1:33 PM
Jet said...: Any movie requests for the afternoon?

I need some inspiration.; 1:33 PM
WarEagleRK said...: Are you saying Auburn is waking up sober and realizing the speedy WR they thought they went to bed with is actually a 5'7" and nobody else would possibly be interested in?; 1:34 PM
Jet said...: Kristina ...

it's closest to No. 2.; 1:34 PM
Jay G. Tate said...: I vote 2.; 1:34 PM
FSJ said...: I'll take what is # 2 for $100 Alex.; 1:34 PM
mwdeav said...: Jay you mentioned that you didn't have a problem with Jacobs except for how he handles PR ...

He's had or been a part of some major PR blunders, and this one is turning into another ...

He seems out of touch with reality on the the comments he's made in regards to our facilities and how issues like the discussions this week effect recruiting ...

Many CEOs have been fired for not being capable of managing expectations and perceptions ...; 1:35 PM
Anonymous said...: The Program

That's the ticket; 1:36 PM
Roland said...: Gotta be 2 at this point; 1:36 PM
Denny Crum said...: I vote for number 2.; 1:36 PM
michael said...: I vote 4: Jay Jacobs has had a lot of diarrhea and has to keep leaving the meetings just when they are about to figure stuff out.; 1:37 PM
FSJ said...: LOL Michael; 1:37 PM
Roland said...: Jet- Wall Street "Greed is Good"; 1:37 PM
WarEagleRK said...: Again the big question is, do we trust these people to make the right hire?; 1:37 PM
Harrison said...: Jay, does Tubs contract keep him from coaching next year, or is it if he takes another job Auburn can recoop some of the 6 million paid out to him?; 1:37 PM
Denny Crum said...: If he was back, there would some sort of statement. Something like they have agreed in principle to somethings or words to that effect. The telling thing is that the name recruits have gotten love and the others have been hit or miss.; 1:38 PM
wtc said...: Just sitting around staring at each other. kinda like the old blink contest you played as a kid. Whomever blinks first is out.; 1:38 PM
Jet said...: I'm thinking Blazing Saddles.

Gov. William JAY Lepetojacobs: "Gentlemen, we have to save our phony-baloney jobs. Harumph!"

Various sycophants: Harumph! Harumph!

Gov. Lepetojacobs: I didn't get a harumph out of that guy.

Attorney General Hedley Jackson: Give the governor a harumph!

Unnamed sycophant: Harumph!

Gov. Lepetojacobs: You watch your @#$!; 1:38 PM
Jay G. Tate said...: I'm going on the air momentarily.; 1:39 PM
Denny Crum said...: Four is a good bet. Jay Jacobs looked like he had amoebic dysentary when he saw Jay G last night I am told.; 1:39 PM
FSJ said...: Al Del Greco is the same dude that said Saban was taking the West Virginia job last year.; 1:39 PM
FSJ said...: SHUT UP DOUG!; 1:40 PM
Roland said...: Blazing Saddles. Maybe they will work up an old #6 on Tubs and gang; 1:40 PM
FSJ said...: Get to Jay.; 1:40 PM
michael said...: Al del Greco couldn't prognosticate his way out of a wet paper bag.; 1:40 PM
Denny Crum said...: These radio dudes don't realize they are but pawns in the master deception plan.; 1:40 PM
Jet said...: They'll go a-rompin' and a-stompin'!; 1:40 PM
Seanzie said...: Jet, I think it's high time we start quoting Fight Club. "Tuberville, You're not your job. You're not how much money you have in your buyout. You're not the spread offense you want. You're not the contents of your playbook. You're not your f****** khakis and sweatervest. You're the all-spinning, all-coachspeaking coach of the world."; 1:41 PM
wtc said...: More like the rail worker telling Cleavon he heard that he was hung and Cleavon saying they was right.; 1:41 PM
Monica said...: WTC - You stole my line! I was imagining a BLINK contest. That's funny.; 1:41 PM
Denny Crum said...: The roundtable would be so much better if it were more Jay G and less everyone else.; 1:42 PM
Just Win AU said...: Kristina, my money is on option #2.; 1:42 PM
Seanzie said...: Ah switched to Blazing Saddles as I was writing up my quote, that's all good.; 1:42 PM
Jet said...: I asked Mongo what was going on, but he said ...

"Mongo don't know. Mongo only pawn in game of life."; 1:42 PM
Seanzie said...: To contribute. "Where all the good offenses at?!"; 1:42 PM
Quitstina said...: Doug is discussing #2...uh wait, you know what i mean...; 1:42 PM
WarEagleRK said...: Can this athletic department do anything right anymore?; 1:43 PM
Jet said...: Isn't that what Doug usually discusses? Just kidding, of course.; 1:44 PM
FSJ said...: Did he give you props for coming up with it?; 1:44 PM
wtc said...: How do you talk to someone for 3 hours. I couldn't talk to my family on Thanksgiving for 3 hours.; 1:44 PM
Monica said...: I hear some banging around. Is there another Franklinesque fight going down?; 1:44 PM
Quitstina said...: No, of course not.; 1:45 PM
Quitstina said...: It's Tubs, grabbing at Jay G's leg begging him to tell him something.; 1:46 PM
Jet said...: Ten-second Ted from 50 First Dates.; 1:46 PM
Monica said...: LMAO Kristina!

Nice.; 1:46 PM
Seanzie said...: Jay Jacobs: Coach, you're fired. Oh, I am sorry, sir; I didn't mean to overstep my bounds. *You* say that.
Jay Gogue: What?
Jay Jacobs: "Coach, you're fired."
Jay Gogue: He is?
Jay Jacobs: No, *you* say that, President.
Jay Gogue: What?
Jay Jacobs: "Coach, you're fired."
Jay Gogue: He is?
Jay Jacobs: Here, sir; play with this.; 1:46 PM
Roland said...: I am a lawyer...let me read it; 1:47 PM
KJtiger said...: I'll go with option 2 also. What is Jay suppose to respond too. If he were going to respond to all the rumors the press release would look like war and peace. NO we are not hiring ______, CTT is still our coach, We are not working a deal with ______. ETC etc....; 1:47 PM
WarEagleRK said...: Just fire him and move on.; 1:47 PM
Quitstina said...: So is that the deal with Petrino too? If he breaks the contract, he pays and that's that or is it more than that? Let me go call Jere Beasley...; 1:47 PM
Jet said...: Gunfire in the athletic complex ... Jay G pinned down in a hallway ... photos to be posted on a blog ... OR AT LEAST THAT'S WHAT IT SOUNDS LIKE.; 1:48 PM
WarEagleRK said...: I believe Petrino would owe Arkansas everything he has been paid if he jumps after the 1st year.; 1:49 PM
Jet said...: The affairs of state are always more important than the affairs of state.; 1:49 PM
Monica said...: lol @ "first you have to wash it off"; 1:49 PM
CovingtonTigerFan said...: Well, it's been about 24 hours since I last posted. It's good to see that everything is still stuck squarely in neutral. That's just wonderful...; 1:49 PM
Roland said...: Jay = A journalist with integrity; 1:49 PM
Monica said...: Jay G. ALWAYS gives a shout out to the hotties. Some of us *coughphredcough* could learn a lesson from him.; 1:50 PM
FSJ said...: Monica,

You coughing up Phred?; 1:51 PM
Roland said...: What is Kyles problem; 1:54 PM
WarEagleRK said...: What is "deathcon 8"?

Is it a comic book convention?; 1:54 PM
barkley for governor said...: RK, they filed a missing report for you over at Auburn Undercover.; 1:55 PM
FSJ said...: LOL RK...

Deathcon 8; 1:55 PM
Monica said...: Doesn't bama have a game this weekend?; 1:56 PM
Quitstina said...: Why do Bama fans think that coaches are fired solely because of them? Some dude on F-bomb said that Bowden and Fulmer were fired because of Saban.; 1:56 PM
Denny Crum said...: http://www.aurx.net/aulink.html

a friend said this was a good Auburn site. Sort of, but no HABOTN, therefore, not good.; 1:56 PM
WarEagleRK said...: They filed a missing report?; 1:56 PM
michael said...: defcon.. and there is no defcon 8. defcon 1 is the worst, defcon 5 is the best. So basically it is incredibly peaceful to make defcon 8.; 1:56 PM
Will said...: Of the people who frequent this joint, if you were called into your boss' office and forced to explain your contributions and plans for improvement in the immediate future, how many of you would keep your job?; 1:57 PM
Quitstina said...: LOL, Michael I was thinking that too. Defcom 12 is utopia...; 1:58 PM
FSJ said...: Saban = coach killer

Part of the process...

And it is all about us. Just ask me.; 1:58 PM
scottatl said...: Saban just put the nail in Bowden and Fulmer's coffin; 1:58 PM
Monica said...: Will - I would.; 1:59 PM
Roland said...: Will- I would be fired instantly; 1:59 PM
barkley for governor said...: There is a thread in the Dye Hard forum asking where you have been.; 1:59 PM
Quitstina said...: Will, i would keep my job.; 2:00 PM
FSJ said...: Will,

I would....

Because I'm good enough,

Smart enough,

And doggonit people like me.; 2:01 PM
Will said...: If the discussion were based on productivity since Monday, I would be working at the same place Fulmer and Tommy Bowden are.; 2:01 PM
Harrison said...: Will. I think you know my answer to that question.; 2:02 PM
Will said...: Big Ups to Seeker for being honest.; 2:03 PM
FSJ said...: Will speaks the truth; 2:03 PM
Quitstina said...: I was being honest. The only alternative to me losing my job is divorce so I'm safe ;-); 2:04 PM
Monica said...: Will - I'm done trying to help you out. You just called me and Kristina a liar. You're dead to me.; 2:04 PM
Roland said...: I would have to explain why I am on this blog all day...it would be my undoing; 2:04 PM
Quitstina said...: D.E.A.D; 2:05 PM
WarEagleRK said...: Barkley,

I replied so nobody would think I had died or something.; 2:05 PM
WarEagleRK said...: "If the discussion were based on productivity since Monday, I would be working at the same place Fulmer and Tommy Bowden are."

I think a lot of us might fall into that same category.; 2:06 PM
Harrison said...: Ouch Will. I don't post here much, but I'm pretty sure making Monica mad is a baaadd idea; 2:06 PM
Tar Heel Tiger said...: news FLASH
Goldberg reports Tubs and Jacobs are meeting now. woo hoo
when my wife comes home and finds out all I've done is read the AU blogs today, she's going to...
want to know all the juicy details
War Eagle!!; 2:07 PM
Will said...: Monica, sensitive much? Never said you were dishonest, just patting Seeker on the back for being honest, never mentioned you nor Kristina.

And death???? Wow, must've really hit a nerve there!; 2:07 PM
Quitstina said...: harrison, you are very perceptive ;-) Making Monica mad=bad; 2:08 PM
Quitstina said...: Will, just playing with ya, dude.; 2:08 PM
Roland said...: Is Goldberg lurking around the athletic complex with you Jay?; 2:09 PM
Monica said...: simma down, Willie - just jerkin yer chain, big fella; 2:09 PM
FSJ said...: I never make Kristina or Monica mad..

I like my manhood too much; 2:09 PM
barkley for governor said...: Yeah, I read that as well Tarheel. I still don't think this meeting will get anything more accomplished than the one yesterday did.

I think they are just making side bets on the SEC championship game.; 2:10 PM
Roland said...: Monica, you're doing what???; 2:10 PM
Quitstina said...: Ok here's my plan. I am taking my 3 kids up to the athletic complex and let them run around screaming and acting crazy until i get some answers. If that doesn't work...it's on the Presidents' mansion...I'll keep you updated; 2:10 PM
WarEagleRK said...: I think they are just getting together in Jay's office for a game of Battleship.; 2:10 PM
Harrison said...: I'm clever sometimes. I know Will, so it was bittersweet to see him get made fun of, but mostly sweet. No offense buddy.; 2:10 PM
Monica said...: I think this moment calls for a nice hot pot of decaff, hazel nut coffee.; 2:11 PM
Jay G. Tate said...: I'll let you know when this meeting breaks.

At least one assistant was just dispatched on a recruiting trip. They're leaving momentarily.

Auburn still is moving along ...; 2:12 PM
Scott M. Brannan said...: how come every time JG comes on air i get stuck with a stupid customer who keeps me spinning in circles for 45 minutes? suck.

synopsis anyone?; 2:12 PM
Jet said...: DECAF! DECAF!

Monica, Monica! Queen of the Hotties!

No. No. No.

Fake coffee is like ... well, nevermind.; 2:13 PM
Jay G. Tate said...: I understand "Atlanta radio" is reporting that assistants have been called in.

Again: Completely false.; 2:13 PM
Will said...: Gotcha Kristina, no worries, we are all on the good guys squad in here.

And I am fully aware of Monica's power, influence, witty banter, and knowledge of all things AU. It it for this reason that I must apologize if my attempt at humor was misunderstood. Noting but love here.; 2:13 PM
Scott M. Brannan said...: i had one of those Starbucks + Energy drinks after my workout at lunch. boucing off the walls now. i love it.; 2:13 PM
Harrison said...: Jay, does Tubs contract buyout not allow him to coach next year? If he does get another job can Auburn recoop money from said buyout?; 2:13 PM
WarEagleRK said...: I'm about to leave work at 3:30 eastern to go eat dinner with my parents, who have no internet at all. So that sucks that I'll miss out on this until about 7:30 tonight.

Hopefully this is resolved soon.; 2:13 PM
Tar Heel Tiger said...: Thanks Monica for the reminder that my Georgia Coffee can is empty. Must go to the fridge for another Diet Coke.; 2:14 PM
Jay G. Tate said...: Brian: Don't link to my "competition" here.

It's unbecoming.; 2:14 PM
Monica said...: LOL I'm sorry, Jet! I gave up all thing caffeinated AND carbonated in June.; 2:14 PM
Harrison said...: good i know i feel better; 2:14 PM
Jay G. Tate said...: Has Finebaum taken a stance on this issue?; 2:15 PM
Roland said...: Monica is a bully Will. She stronarmed me into deleting a post earlier.; 2:15 PM
WarEagleRK said...: Finebaum is pretty much just reporting that people close to Tub say he's upset that he hasn't been told anything and that he's meeting with Jacobs right now.

Nothing more than what we already know.; 2:16 PM
FSJ said...: Finebaum is sorta in line with you.

He said he didn't see how this most recent meeting could not lead to a resolution.; 2:16 PM
Jay G. Tate said...: Finebaum is accurate there.; 2:16 PM
Roland said...: I meant strong armed; 2:16 PM
WarEagleRK said...: I'd hate to see Tub leave on a bad note where they just jerk him around like this, but karma is a funny thing.; 2:17 PM
Will said...: Hey Jay, which AU asst coach was dispatched? Which direction did he head?; 2:17 PM
Roland said...: KARMA!! You a Carson Daly fan too?; 2:18 PM
Jay G. Tate said...: It's Hugh Nall and ... at least one other coach. They're headed south.; 2:18 PM
Monica said...: RK - You should leave an email or something so the news can track down your cell phone.

Bully? Harsh. I had no idea y'all thought I was so mean.

Don't any of you forget it! ;-); 2:18 PM
Roland said...: Monica = alpha female; 2:19 PM
FSJ said...: I bet Finebaum reads your blog...; 2:19 PM
Harrison said...: you sure hugh nall isn't just going to lunch again?; 2:19 PM
WarEagleRK said...: Hugh Nall has been heading south a lot lately.; 2:19 PM
Monica said...: alpha female = redundant; 2:19 PM
Harrison said...: Does Finebaum wear Jay G. underpants?; 2:20 PM
Unknown said...: sorry man. didn't know you had "competition"; 2:20 PM
Will said...: Jay, did the other coach who went out recruiting with Nall have the initials Butch Davis. Did his name rhyme with Robby Detrino? Maybe Ike-May Each-Lay????; 2:21 PM
Monica said...: Dear person who is trying to email me. Yahoo seems to be having a problem right now and I can't get to my mail. I only know you're trying to email me because I have my yahoo messenger on. How about trying it via Facebook?; 2:26 PM
Scott M. Brannan said...: it's me! it's me! i'll try facebook. :); 2:27 PM
Harrison said...: My yahoo mail is inaccessible also. I bet I have like a hundred of them cause of all the friends that i have and what not; 2:27 PM
Monica said...: I can see why, Harrison. You have a very cool name.; 2:28 PM
Jet said...: I got COFFEE!!!!; 2:28 PM
WarEagleRK said...: I can't get to my yahoo email either, but it's because of a Spam email thing going around and my company has a block on outside email access right now.; 2:29 PM
Harrison said...: Thanks, my parents gave it to me; 2:30 PM
michael said...: I can check my Yahoo! email. According to BizRate there are some holiday dresses on sale. Score!; 2:31 PM
Denny Crum said...: Jay G doesn't have competitors. He has imitators; 2:32 PM
CovingtonTigerFan said...: Does anyone else find it interesting that this latest meeting is in Tuberville's, not Jacob's, office? Hmmm...; 2:33 PM
shesaid said...: Does that mean the tables have turned??; 2:36 PM
Denny Crum said...: I think CTT thinks he is being played.; 2:36 PM
Will said...: Anyone know if the b-ball game is televised tonight?; 2:36 PM
Jet said...: Easier to walk out of someone else's office, than have them come in to yours.; 2:37 PM
autiger said...: JG- Go get a glass and put your ear up to the door. Get us something concrete.; 2:37 PM
FSJ said...: Good point Jet; 2:37 PM
James in Auburn said...: So I rush home from the doc to find... nothing has changed.; 2:37 PM
Quitstina said...: So they are meeting in Tubervilles' office? Am i all caught up?; 2:38 PM
Harrison said...: We will definitely find out tonight if we're any better at b-ball. I think we still stink; 2:38 PM
FSJ said...: Well wasn't that sweet of Mandy to call into Finebaum.

Sounds like a nice gal.; 2:38 PM
FSJ said...: yes Kristina...

In Tubs office...eating chocolate chip cookie dough ice cream.; 2:39 PM
Harrison said...: yep kristina all caught up; 2:39 PM
Quitstina said...: My laptop doesn't even like the f-baum. Won't let me listen to him...; 2:39 PM
Quitstina said...: Yum! Think I will join them...; 2:40 PM
Will said...: Harrison, I would have argued with you a week or so ago, but I think you might be on to something. About b-ball that is.; 2:40 PM
FSJ said...: try myfoxfinebaum.com

or google WJOX; 2:40 PM
Harrison said...: The second half of the george washington game we looked like a top 25 team. we were fooled i think. Maybe it was the free chic-fil-a or the seats near the tiger pause; 2:42 PM
Monica said...: Fbaum WOULD think Mike Leach is a "horrible interview" because Leach is such a brainiac. Hopefully, a Leach would not give Fbaum an interview.; 2:43 PM
shesaid said...: If we're gonna discuss b-ball on here we might as well talk about the ladeeezzzz team because they could probably school the men this year.

Dewanna Bonner is a straight baller.; 2:43 PM
FSJ said...: LOL at the guy that compared Tubs to Finebaum; 2:43 PM
Jet said...: How 'bout a Petrino-Finebaum interview? WOW.; 2:43 PM
Will said...: MMMMMMMmmmmmmm Tiger Pause and free Chick-fil-A. I love basketball season.; 2:44 PM
Monica said...: The basketball games are available online if it's not televised.; 2:44 PM
Denny Crum said...: I think Auburn basketball will challenge for a conference title this year, provided they join the Atlantic Sun or Ohio Valley Conference. I just see a mob of not very knowledgeble mediocre basketball players. It looks like the intramural all-star team.; 2:45 PM
Will said...: And shesaid walks in.

Hey LP, I had free scholarship tix for the AU/ Oh St game, didn't go. Apparently it was the most exciting b-ball game played in AU in a decade...mens or womens; 2:45 PM
Monica said...: There's Faker on the Fbaum show. Hear his dogs barking?; 2:46 PM
Quitstina said...: There you heard it here first...Dooley is next coach at Auburn; 2:47 PM
Denny Crum said...: Michael,

BBC radio is reporting this in regards to what is going on at Auburn right now: "John has a long mustache," and "Wounds my heart with dolorous languour," I think all you HOTTIES know what that means.; 2:47 PM
FSJ said...: Just got finished walking the dogs Mon..

It was a short walk; 2:47 PM
CovingtonTigerFan said...: I went to the George Washington game. The second half had me fooled into thinking this might be a pretty good year. Not quite...; 2:48 PM
Harrison said...: those halftime competitons are pretty riveting; 2:48 PM
Will said...: I agree Denny. I think if AU played the rest of their games on a blacktop in a parking lot somewhere, we'd be great. Unfortunately, well coached teams seem to handle us with little effort.; 2:48 PM
Irelan said...: The game tonight is Women's. They're ranked #14 now and actually do have a chance at the SEC title and in the NCAA tournament.; 2:48 PM
Quitstina said...: Wait, what does walking the dogs mean? I thought you were always feeding your dogs.; 2:48 PM
George said...: Paterno and Bobby Bowden currently flying to Auburn to interview.

-George; 2:49 PM
FSJ said...: One if for exercise..

The other for nourishment.; 2:49 PM
Quitstina said...: Where's JD with his flight tracker?; 2:50 PM
michael said...: Oh no, Denny! Tubs and the offensive assistants are storming the beaches of Mobile?

Tubs was heard screaming, "This is where we found Sen' Derrick! He was a just a two star! Screw recruiting rankings!! Charge!!!!"; 2:51 PM
shesaid said...: Yeah Will, if there is a chance for me to get up there for a weekend game, let me know. I can't wait to see my girl KeKe Carrier throw down some monster dunks. You think she could execute some oops from Smalley?; 2:51 PM
Jet said...: Tubs and coaching staff seen scouting out BBQ joints in south Alabama to purchase once they are looking for jobs this weekend.; 2:52 PM
Monica said...: George - You lost me with the Bowden reference. Here I thought you were really laying it down.; 2:53 PM
FSJ said...: GOOD NEWS!!!!

The HABOTN t-shirt has arrived!; 2:53 PM
Harrison said...: It's kind of nice that we stink. Will and I get free scholarship seats and we can hear Lebo yelling fruitlessly at Tay Waller who won't do anything Lebo asks him to.; 2:53 PM
Quitstina said...: Oh i just automatically read that as Bobby Lowder...; 2:55 PM
Seanzie said...: Anyone have an idea how long this meeting is going to last?; 2:55 PM
Quitstina said...: days and days, sean; 2:56 PM
FSJ said...: Apparently forever Sean; 2:56 PM
Seanzie said...: I think my F5 key is going to break off of my keyboard if this thing goes on much longer.; 2:56 PM
Monica said...: Tubs didn't take nearly this long to boot Franklin.; 2:57 PM
Quitstina said...: OMG!! That tampon joke was obvioulsy made up by a guy who has no clue.; 2:57 PM
Jet said...: Tuesday ...

JJ: Tommy, we're thinking this over, but right now we're inclined to make a change.

TT: I see ... THEN TO HIMSELF, "i'M IN THE MONEY!"

TODAY.

JJ: "Tommy, good news. We're going to give you another year."

TT: You can't do this. Really, think about what you're doing because I really stink.; 2:57 PM
Seanzie said...: One day Franklin was the guy, the next afternoon he wasn't. I miss ruthless efficiency.; 2:57 PM

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