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10.13.2008

What We Learned, 10/14


Hey everyone. Thanks again for a swell campfire last night. It was the second-biggest day in terms of HABOTN traffic, so it's clear that the fire is spreading. I know a lot of you have said nice things about us and turned your friends toward this glowing mass of illumination, so thanks for that.

Let's take a gander at some stuff I keep hearing about. You're probably wondering about and/or hearing the same stuff.

UPDATE:
ESPN.com's Mark Schalbach, a friend of the HABOTN, reports that Tommy Bowden is out at Clemson. Those Tigers are 3-3. A Bowden fired at mid-season? That never happens.

  • Why did Auburn pass three times near the Arkansas goal line? Tuberville said Arkansas stacked the box and thereby prohibited a running play. I'm just telling you what he said.

  • What is the deal with Barrett Trotter? He represents a fresh slate, which could be a good thing for Auburn. Trotter is a guy this staff really liked as a senior at Briarwood Christian this time last year. He's a kid with good stuff: Enough speed and a good arm. Is he ready for a major challenge? I don't see how anyone -- including coach Tommy Tuberville -- can know. Trotter has been running scout team for two months. I believe coaches are going to give him a legitimate shot this week and will remove Trotter's redshirt if they feel good about his practice work.

  • What about Neil Caudle? Isn't he the third-team guy? Tony Franklin ripped Caudle earlier this year for being prone to interceptions, which is something Tuberville et. al. are trying to avoid. Caudle's path to playing time is clearer now than it was with Franklin in the fold, but I think Trotter has more upside and may be considered a more worthy player.

  • Is Tuberville going to survive this? He could. Auburn is 4-3 right now. The rest of the season looks like this:

    10/23: at West Virginia
    11/1: at Ole Miss
    11/8: UT-Martin
    11/15: Georgia
    11/29: at Alabama

    How many wins do you see? UT-Martin is a gimme. Auburn will be a mild underdog at WVU and Ole Miss. It probably will be a major underdog against Georgia and Alabama.

    Let's say Auburn splits em and goes 7-5. It may come down to which game represents the seventh win.

    Considering what happened to Tommy Bowden today, Auburn finishing 7-5 with a loss to Alabama likely would spell the end of the Tuberville era here. There is one thing you always must consider: Tuberville is best with his back against the wall. It's a mistake to ever count him out.


Photo credit: Todd Van Emst/Auburn University

Questions? Comments? Post directly to the blog below or email me at jgtate@gannett.com.

255 Comments:

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Blogger squirrel master said...

And what did Bama do? Hire a damn good football coach.

9:39 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Tubs prob already has his Iron Bowl Think Tank breaking down the film. He's gotta win this one.

9:39 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

We have now gone to multiple pages of comments.

9:40 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It's kinda like a campfire.

9:41 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

But without Jay G.

9:41 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Recognize a trend:

When it was Nix..we want Craig.

When it was Leard..we want Tillman.

When it was Leard...we want Gross.

When it was Cobb..we want Campbell.

When it was Cox...we want Burns.

When it was Todd...we want Burns.

When it was Burns...we want Cotton.

Now you idiots so caught up in whether or not Raymond Cotton, a sr. in high school, will keep his committment?

9:42 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The back up QB is always the most popular guy on the team.

9:43 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"When it was Leard..we want Tillman."

Who in the H is/was Tillman?

9:43 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

He's talking Allen Tillman. But he's a little off there. Leard was the only option in my book back then.

9:47 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'd say Campbell over Cobb proved correct. We wanted Cox for the first two yearsish until he had to play with a 5 lb bag of ice on his leg. I don't remember "When it was Leard we want Gross", I thought Gross quit because his future was in baseball. I think the only trend is the lack of a high quality QB, save Campbell.

9:48 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I thought Leard replaced Gross.

Do I have that backwards?

9:48 PM  
Blogger Jeremy Eubanks said...

...208 comments. That'll put the geezy in Jay Geezy....

9:49 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Who the H cares, those seasons are in the books.

9:49 PM  
Blogger ADP said...

Okay, so I read a few and here's what I've got.

Jay G, spending 10 million just for the priviledge of searching for a new coach is silly in ANY economy.

However, building a 90 million dollar basketball arena is a phreaking brilliant idea.

9:49 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

And when Leard was good so was Malzone. And then he got "bad". And we hired Petrino who was good. Then Nallsminger took over and we really were awful. And then Borges came in and we were perfect. And then Borges went "bad". And here we are. We're here because Tubby has a knack for terminating the offense.

9:49 PM  
Blogger WarEagleRK said...

This has to be some kind of HABOTN record for number of posts.

9:51 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Mr Sense, it was Leard and then Gross. Leard got hurt. But he was awful prior to that. Leard has an up and down career at Auburn. At one point, he couldn't even go home without fear of somebody waiting at his doorstep to kick his tail. But he won the job handily by his junior season and set a record or two.

9:52 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You could build some nice new football facilities with $90M. Is it really that much, I thought it was much less.

9:52 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I think that's the correct figure.

9:53 PM  
Blogger WarEagleRK said...

Mazzone was 1/2 of the scapegoat for the 2001 collapse.

If everyone remembers we went into the Arkansas game that year just needing to win 2 out of the last 4 SEC games (Ark, UGA, Bama, LSU) to go to Atlanta. We were 10 point favorites over Ark & Alabama and got slaughtered by both, beat UGA on a last second goal line stop and then lost in Baton Rouge.

After starting out 4-0 in the SEC with that big win over Florida, we went 1-3 the rest of the way and ended up losing to UNC in the Peach Bowl which was one of the worst offensive games we have seen until this year.

9:54 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm not gay.

9:54 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Unbelievable, you would think for $10M they could have done a great remodel on the coliseum.

9:54 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

rk, remember too well. Remember the Dansby play in the UNC game? That was his last game as safety. But, to your point, our offense sucked then as it does now.

9:55 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Okay. Thanks Crudup.

I'll say this you your offensive coordinator history.

And then the dinosaurs came and they all died and turned into oil. And then the Arabs came and they all drove Mercedes Benzes.

9:55 PM  
Blogger WarEagleRK said...

I think Beard Eaves was beyond any renovations.

We don't even have a full sized practice court there.

9:56 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

State of the art jumbo tron though....

9:57 PM  
Blogger WarEagleRK said...

Dansby's interception and lateral to Thomas was the one highlight of that game.

I was there in the middle the UNC people and that was a rough game to watch.

The only Auburn people around me were cussing because Carnell was dressed out and they didn't play him.

9:57 PM  
Blogger ADP said...

that's good to know anon ... not that there's anything wrong with that.

9:57 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What will become of the B-E?

9:57 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Leard struggled in '98 and everyone wanted true freshman Gabe Gross....he played a good bid, stunk and Bowden got fired.

9:58 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

parking lot.

9:58 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You may get me started on Gran and his goofy tailback rotation and evaluation over the years.

9:58 PM  
Blogger WarEagleRK said...

I'm guessing Beard Eaves will be a parking lot

9:58 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

That's a shame, VRGA.

Bigger shame is I actually care.

And it's football season.

Dang...

9:59 PM  
Blogger WarEagleRK said...

Leard's 1st start was against Virginia, and he threw and int and walked to the sidelines smiling... I threw a shoe at the TV.

9:59 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Go for it Crudup.

9:59 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

That Dansby lateral was classic. One of my favorite plays I've seen.

10:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I remember that game now RK. Thanks for bringing that up as we prepare to head back to that side of the country for what may be another whipping.

Ugg

10:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

They have to replace all the parking they're losing with the new development. They might be building a deck, but I don't know for sure.

10:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Last I heard was the ground wouldn't support a deck in current condition, but who knows.

Things change daily. I just wait to be told and walk around the new construction each day.

10:02 PM  
Blogger ADP said...

Whoever told you that about the ground doesn't know very much.

10:04 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Just in case you wondered what happened to Leard...

MYSPACE for LEARD>

10:04 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I figured that was bull, Phred, but I don't know enough about that to know otherwise.

10:09 PM  
Blogger Jay G. Tate said...

I can't believe it!

240 comments?!?!

Incredible. I know today was pretty slow in terms of news, but we'll get some goodness tomorrow from defensive players. So perhaps that will provide ample satiation...

10:17 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Jay G.

The Hotties are in force tonight!

10:18 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I know I'm late to the party but wanted to back up Barkley on his comments earlier. Let's wait and see on Cotton. Really, let's not even discuss it at this point.

Oh yeah, I live in Mobile as well, and Faith couldnt beat a single public school in Mobile, and probably couldnt beat the bigger private schools around here (McGill, UMS, St. Pauls). Not even a chance.

10:34 PM  
Blogger Scott M. Brannan said...

I step away from my computer for a few hours to watch Monday Night Football and I miss over 100 comments. wowzers.

10:43 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You're right hip-hop, we really shouldn't be talking about it, but there wasn't much else to talk about today. It got boring.

10:43 PM  
Blogger Scott M. Brannan said...

here's a good interview with Tubs today. Fox 6 from B-ham.

http://www.myfoxal.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail?contentId=7635073&version=2&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=VSTY&pageId=1.1.1

10:59 PM  
Blogger michael said...

Nothing really to say, but I want to be a part of this crazy large number of comments. Ummm, Cotton may be good or he may suck. Kodi may turn out awesome or he may always suck. No one knows. There it is.

Back to the pile!

11:05 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

lmao I don't remember anyone hollering to but Gabe Gross in the game. Things were so bad then it didn't matter who the QB was!! Ah, the glory days of Markeith Cooper and Demontray Carter... now THAT was some BAD football! I feel better about this team already! Woo!

I also don't remember anyone wanting Craig over Nix. Nix was a darn good QB. So was Craig.

7:58 AM  
Blogger Jay G. Tate said...

I vote for Meiko Collier and Jim Bob Striplin.

8:28 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

THE MEANEST LOOKING AU QB

8:35 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Mieko Collier actually played in the 98 UVA game after Leard's happy interception.

Then I don't think he ever touched the field again.

9:10 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sensible,

Thanks for showing how hideous those jerseys looked with the orange shade around the numbers.

9:16 AM  
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