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2.24.2009

All we have are the embers

Thanks to the 312 people who participated in our Tuesday night campfire.

We opened at 8:40. We closed at 11:17.

Topics included Jonna Chizik, David Oku, Dontae Aycock's highlights, drunk texting, Gene Chizik's chin and the dismissals at WNSP radio in Mobile.

Big ups to Tuesday's chat stalwarts: jhag, Will, David Oku (prior to BANHAMMERING), Kristina, FSJ, MonD, j-z, Z4Z, Jet, wakerider, Nanner, Michael (in two tours) and newcomer PJunkie.

A great time was had by all.

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Blogger TarHeelTiger (JaySr) said...

oops, wrong room

8:49 PM  
Blogger jhag said...

two bits

11:17 PM  
Blogger michael said...

fajfas jklfsa kjlfaslkjguer vb

11:22 PM  
Blogger Jay G. Tate said...

substance.

11:23 PM  
Blogger jhag said...

Have a good one

11:24 PM  
Blogger D. Miller said...

Sorry I could only make a brief appearance tonight folks... I hope I didn't let anyone down.

I'll do better next time I promise.

11:33 PM  
Blogger Matt said...

Seinfeld and studying limited my time tonight. See you at the game tomorrow Jay!

11:34 PM  
Blogger chip chip said...

What was the deal this time on WNSP?
I know they fired McCready for not singing the praises of Mike Shula and helping break the Mike Price story.
I don't know what Seth & Co. did or did not do, but they were better than the replacement programming streaming in from Bammerham.

I listened to Sportsdrive from day #1 with Neal, Taylor and Issac. It was as good as any national talk show I have ever heard on ESPN and remained that way even after Taylor left. The show somehow managed to cater to the Alabama crowd and maintain its journalistic dignity nonetheless.

Jay, you were a big reason I listened to the show because of your Wednesday updates. I was listening the day you and WNSP parted ways after Neal was fired. That was definitely one of the ultimate moments in the history of that show. The show had never been the same since that day and is now dead. McCready pretty much took all the credibility with him when he was shown the door.

11:54 PM  
Blogger Matt said...

WNSP is now a joke. Did I hear Finebaum on there the other day or was I just out of it? Completely unprofessional, which is a disappointment because I used to love listening to them for all of my sports coverage. And what's with those stupid hunting radio shows they do now? FAIL!

12:05 AM  
Blogger youngpj said...

Boom goes the dynamite.

1:56 AM  
Blogger Sen. Jet -- Tool of The Man said...

It's 4:55, let's go beat Bama.

4:55 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Good Morning, Hotties! It's Humpity Hump Hump Hump Day!!

Thanks to JustWin, Jet, Monica and TarHeel for the b-day sentiments!

5:29 AM  
Blogger Monica said...

I love Campfiring.

Good morning Hotties how are you?
Don't you know me I'm your native son,
I'm the train they call The City of New Orleans,
I'll be gone five hundred miles when the day is done.

Happy Ash Wednesday.

5:44 AM  
Blogger TarHeelTiger (JaySr) said...

Good morning ladies! Hope y'all are having a great day and continue to do so.

5:52 AM  
Blogger TarHeelTiger (JaySr) said...

Jet- good morning to you, too. You finished that workout yet?

5:53 AM  
Blogger Monica said...

Hey Hey THT - It's a gorgeous day in Alexandia, VA - great sunrise out my Marriott window.

6:03 AM  
Blogger Sen. Jet -- Tool of The Man said...

Yep, TarHeel ...

Coach Boone took us on a run, and we ended up at the battlefield at Gettysburg. He told us we're still fighting the same fight that they fought back then -- brother against brother. He told us to listen to their souls.

6:28 AM  
Blogger ehyoutiger said...

A good morning to all out there in Hottieland.

Too bad I had to miss the campfire last night, I got a sick daughter.

6:37 AM  
Blogger D. Miller said...

alright folks... off to another day of the Fisheries conference!
Have yourselves a fine day!

6:39 AM  
Blogger ehyoutiger said...

Wow, I hadn't heard that about WNSP. Earlier this month we lost Bill Shanks' afternoon show here in Macon (also 105.5 coincidentally). Bill is a decent UGA guy....I know, hard to believe.

I thought the national ESPN feed they replaced him with was bad, but Paul Finebaum?!?! Are they TRYING to run everyone out of Mobile County?

6:48 AM  
Blogger gatiger said...

Morning Hotties - sorry to have missed the festivities last night and I'm sure the Campfire suffered somewhat due to my absence. But, I just can't stay awake 'till all hours of the night like 9:30 or so like you kids.

Something I thought about from posts yesterday and last night - if Michael was raised by wolves, I find it interesting that he made his foray into the sheep business in Idaho as we all know that sheep prefer to travel in different circles than wolves.

Perhaps that's the true reason behind his failure in this line of work - he continuously devoured his own inventory.

7:15 AM  
Blogger SeanZ said...

GaTiger, maybe Michael just has an identity crisis and likes to parade around like a....wolf in sheep's clothing? Ok that was bad, but a happy hump day/ Ash Wednesday to all the hotties.

7:18 AM  
Blogger Kristina said...

Good morning hotties! I can't believe I left before Oku got banhammered. I don't think we want this kid in Auburn. Drama City.

7:22 AM  
Blogger Jay G. Tate said...

That was a technical banhammering, not a true knockout. He was leaving, he was mildly annoying and I had an itchy trigger finger.

7:30 AM  
Blogger Jay G. Tate said...

Can't believe the P in PJunkie is for "political."

What a letdown.

7:35 AM  
Blogger Kristina said...

Well you can't let the hammer get rusty I guess.

7:45 AM  
Blogger Jay G. Tate said...

I have people to handle that.

7:47 AM  
Blogger scottie b in tennessee said...

sorry i missed it last nite. sure it was a good one. :(

7:47 AM  
Blogger TarHeelTiger (JaySr) said...

another great day in HABOTNOPOLIS

knock on wood; technology working smooooooothly this morning.

7:48 AM  
Blogger SeanZ said...

That whole central time thing really messes it up for me, I love campfire but I also love sleep.

7:48 AM  
Blogger TarHeelTiger (JaySr) said...

people plural?

7:49 AM  
Blogger TarHeelTiger (JaySr) said...

sleep doesn't do me much good; i always wake up exhausted.

7:50 AM  
Blogger Jay G. Tate said...

Can't wait for jhag to report in. He went the distance and had school this morning. Surely a fun combination.

7:53 AM  
Blogger SeanZ said...

Jay, those young folks can do it easy. I used to be young and stay up until 3 or 4 and still make an 8 A.M. class.

7:55 AM  
Blogger jhag said...

I have returned

8:07 AM  
Blogger TarHeelTiger (JaySr) said...

what an animal! mornin' jhag

8:10 AM  
Blogger scottie b in tennessee said...

but jhag, the real question is if you can campfire during class? that would be most impressive.

8:14 AM  
Blogger gatiger said...

I recall my first job after college - I'd go out with the boys which more often that not turned into an all-nighter, come home for a shower & change of clothes then go to work. After work, nap for a few hours and repeat the previous night activities.

Now days, the only parts of that I can do are the shower followed by going to work. I fantasize about taking naps but that's just not in the cards.

8:16 AM  
Blogger jhag said...

I don't see why not... Haha sounds like a good challenge though.

8:26 AM  
Blogger AUMom said...

Sorry I missed the campfire last night. I wish there were a Cliff Notes version available (more than the subject topics).

Y'all have a great day. It's a busy day. I hope to be back for the afternoon.

PS Oku needs to be banhammered. The real one, anyway.

8:37 AM  
Blogger weagle251 said...

I just want to agree with everything chip chip said re: WNSP. I hate that they canned Issac, but Seth was an utter waste. Sports Drive has been dead since they canned Neal. All they did was make it official last week.

8:50 AM  
Blogger Sen. Jet -- Tool of The Man said...

If JHag campfires during class, wouldn't it result in a fire drill?

And how would Dontae Aycock respond to that? Or Oku? Or Michael?

9:05 AM  
Blogger tigercowboy said...

Not much sleep last night...kept thinking of headlines for Aycocks big games. The campfire broke out and spread out of control on that issue for sure.

9:22 AM  
Blogger AUnMobilz (GAME ON!) said...

Good Morning HOTTIES!!!!

Trying to get over Mardi Gras here in Mobile the last two days.... seems like a missed a lot of good shiggdy!

9:29 AM  
Blogger chip chip said...

I don't even think WNSP is the AU affiliate anymore. I could only find the basketball game on 105.1 which was fuzzy to say the least. WNSP was playing USA vs. Middle Tennessee or something instead. Maybe AU was on tape delay? At least they still play the ESPN programming. I pay attention to their ads so I know who not to do business with. It's basically a mouthpiece for the REC and Bammerham. Pat Dye is the only reason I would ever listen to that show.

9:36 AM  
Blogger ehyoutiger said...

weagle - Purple Jesus Dude is awesome!!!

9:37 AM  
Blogger michael said...

Having been raised by wolves, I am deathly afraid of fire. So I follow any fire drill with the utmost seriousness, Jet.

9:39 AM  
Blogger Harrison said...

Mon, how do you live in W.V? It is the coldest place on earth

9:59 AM  
Blogger Sen. Jet -- Tool of The Man said...

The Secretary of Snark, Harrison, has arrived.

10:10 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

AUMom said...
Oku needs to be banhammered. The real one, anyway.


Agreed, AUMom.

10:29 AM  
Blogger Will said...

I saw a link out there on the interwebs that showed some pics of the girl who Oku is supposedly moving to Neb to be close to. Lemme just say, at 18, she might not have been worth moving to Neb for, but it would have been worth a loooooong visit. (the site is a FB blog and it is SFW)

http://www.3sib.com/2009/02/24/maybe-david-oku-isnt-crazy-after-all/#more-6206

10:31 AM  
Blogger Will said...

Sorry for linking another blog Jay, but I thought this was worth sharing.

10:31 AM  
Blogger Will said...

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10:32 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Will, she looks trashy.

10:32 AM  
Blogger j-z said...

I am diet coke free for 12+ hours now. The headaches and blurry vision are setting in. Send help...

10:36 AM  
Blogger Harrison said...

Jet- i am back after a ski trip to the antarctic, some people call it west virginia.

10:37 AM  
Blogger TarHeelTiger (JaySr) said...

hot trash, er.. I mean white trash.
I think it's a hoax.

I am diet coke free for 2+ minutes now. The headaches and blurry vision are setting in.

10:38 AM  
Blogger SeanZ said...

J-Z, no one is more than a few steps away from a Diet coke at anytime, not even Monica over there in West Virginia. Feed the addiction.

10:38 AM  
Blogger ballin said...

Somehow I get the feeling that Oku and that girl don't go together like peas and carrots

10:39 AM  
Blogger Harrison said...

i also do not buy the Oku girlfriend pics. Although i do appreciate the pictures of hot girls

10:39 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

SeanZ, except for those of us who don't drink Diet Coke. ;-)

10:41 AM  
Blogger Will said...

LUV, I think the good men of Confederate Railroad said it best when they said, "I like my women a little on the trashy side."

Please don't tell my wife I said that.

10:42 AM  
Blogger SeanZ said...

Luv, I despise diet drinks myself, but I'm never far from Diet Coke. This is the truth.

10:43 AM  
Blogger j-z said...

I gave up soft drinks and trashy women for Lent. Don't tell my wife.

10:43 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

TarHeel, you're secret is safe with me!

10:43 AM  
Blogger SeanZ said...

Ah Lent, it's that time of year. I hope no one plans on giving up the HABOTN...

10:45 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

SeanZ, cases and cases of it, right?

10:47 AM  
Blogger TarHeelTiger (JaySr) said...

cases and cases...

Luv, you talkin 'bout my basement?

10:48 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

LOL No, I was referring to the fact that SeanZ works for Coca-Cola.

10:49 AM  
Blogger SeanZ said...

Luv, we actually only have a vending/fountain in my location. However, just a few miles up the street there lies the Willy Wonka plant, Coke style.

10:51 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

A vending machine? You have to pay for it??

10:52 AM  
Blogger gatiger said...

seanz - really? do you really have to pay for it? we have the fountains which are chock full of your product in every breakroom. even though it's free, i still rarely drink it and stick to my water. but still... you have to pay for it? i mean, that'd be like working for the u.s. treasury and not getting to take home some free $.

10:55 AM  
Blogger TarHeelTiger (JaySr) said...

25 cents/can from the vending machines at 2 of the places I work. I still take my own Diet Cokes to work as the fear and consequences of the "sold out" light are too great.

10:58 AM  
Blogger Wakeriderof87 said...

I feel so proud to have my name appear in one of Jay's Posts, this must be what it feels like to win a Nobel Prize

11:05 AM  
Blogger TarHeelTiger (JaySr) said...

I'm sure it's the exact same feeling...without all the money.

11:09 AM  
Blogger jhag said...

The Oku girlffriend stuff is kinda silly; we can't believe some crap someone is posting who knows where, about a random chick.

11:12 AM  
Blogger Wakeriderof87 said...

My father worked for Coke for 25ish years and we never got free coke. Although towards the time he retired they started selling product cheap to employees.

11:18 AM  
Blogger Sen. Jet -- Tool of The Man said...

I have given up losing to UAT in anything in perpetuity for Lent.

11:20 AM  
Blogger scottie b in tennessee said...

i worked at the Pepsi bottling plant in Lexington, KY one summer during grad school. i think i put on 5 lbs just because we would drink it straight off the line before it got the tops put on, ice cold. good times, man. good times.

11:23 AM  
Blogger Peter Frankenschmidt said...

The new Fanta Zero drink is fabulous as far as doet drinks go. Completely destroys my previous favorite diet drink ( a certain secondary product of a secondary product line). Destroys!!!!

Oh, and diet Orange Crush is pretty good, too, but it's a faker. Still a good bit of sugar in it

Still,do any of those really beat strawberry sugar-free Kool-Aid? Oh Yeah.

11:30 AM  
Blogger Sen. Jet -- Tool of The Man said...

If it's all the same, I'd rather talk about Oku's GF than diet drinks.

Or maybe we can talk about grits. Or BBQ. But not the BBQ Boys. They're outta here.

11:38 AM  
Blogger Sen. Jet -- Tool of The Man said...

This is divine intervention:

Seven Alabama BBQ joints listed in new book.

http://blog.al.com/living-news/2009/02/seven_alabama_eateries_make_be.html

11:41 AM  
Blogger Jay G. Tate said...

Never been to any of them, Jet, but I'm not a barbecue guy...

11:53 AM  
Blogger Jay G. Tate said...

Be sure to check back this afternoon. The HABOTN will be hoppin' around 3.

11:53 AM  
Blogger j-z said...

Notice the lack of any of those 7 being in Central Alabama?

11:54 AM  
Blogger SeanZ said...

Re: Paying for drinks...well it's a funny thing, downtown, there are vending machines @ no cost to the employees. Where I work, we have heavily discounted machines and free fountain. I've so far managed to avoid weight gain.

Re: Diet Drinks, the only 2 I can drink are Vault Zero and Cherry Coke Zero.

12:00 PM  
Blogger Bear82 said...

sorry i missed the fire, HOTTIES. Just got back yesterday from Princeton, NJ with a side trip to NYC/Times Square. first time in my life going there (NYC). Wow, what a place. GRAY'S PAPAYA, ESPNZONE, street vendors, yes, i ate them at them all. Not too cold, 40 degrees, perfect times. I should be posting more from now on, for those who care.

12:07 PM  
Blogger BinOBA said...

I watched the AU/USCal game from that espnzone, it sucked.

12:12 PM  
Blogger gatiger said...

jet / jz - i noticed each of the 7 were in places i'm extremely unlikely to be (& one i don't know where it is). so, the list is worthless. way to go jet.

bear - did you get some great nyc pizza from sbarro? or, did you go to red lobster? those are michael scott's favorite places to eat when he goes to nyc. just curious.

12:13 PM  
Blogger scott from tucson said...

april 1st i get to stick it to the man! on that day, thanks to my joining the rolls of those working for the man, i get to cancel our privately obtained health insurance and switch to the company's health plan. the kicker is that it's the same insurer and i get better coverage from them at $800 per month cheaper. it's a small victory, i know.

12:15 PM  
Blogger BinOBA said...

My fave italian place in nyc.
http://www.nybarolo.com/

12:18 PM  
Blogger j-z said...

Scott, great news.

Gatiger, I can vouch for GreenTop. It's pretty good. I am surprised Jim's BBQ north of Billingsley was not on the list or Lanney's in Selma. Both are much better.

12:18 PM  
Blogger michael said...

I ate at Gray's Papaya when I went to NY a couple of years ago! It was great, and it's cheapness almost made up for the insane prices everywhere else. Well, not really, but it was still nice that it was cheap.

12:19 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

scott, $800? That's a huge victory!

12:21 PM  
Blogger gatiger said...

scottieb - that's no small victory. put that savings into a roth or something along those lines other than the stock market and you'll be glad you did.

12:23 PM  
Blogger Peter Frankenschmidt said...

should students who are old enough to not be claimed as dependents, and therfor have a meanial income, file for welfare. The way I see it, Obama's still paying bank and auto execs big salaries, so why not. Sure, it's completely wrong, but the system itself seems to encourage immorality.

12:24 PM  
Blogger Peter Frankenschmidt said...

should students who are old enough to not be claimed as dependents, and therfor have a meanial income, file for welfare. The way I see it, Obama's still paying bank and auto execs big salaries, so why not. Sure, it's completely wrong, but the system itself seems to encourage immorality.

12:25 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

PF, the whole welfare system needs a complete overhaul. It's original intent was never to be what it has become.

12:27 PM  
Blogger Bear82 said...

NYC Pizza- got it from some dive place off 8th ave. cannot recall the name, but it was great. it wasn't Sabarros, I can get that in most malls in the US. glad to see Jay G back working, as i am sure he is glad to be back. Also, I was a listener of WNSP Sportsdrive almost daily, and I liked Seth and Pat. Isaac was great, he got royally jobbed. also, it did seem to me that Seth was trying to be a bit Cowherd-like, IMO. I guess that won't fly here in Mobile.

12:32 PM  
Blogger scott from tucson said...

luv, it's very cool. also, my wifes copays go from $75 to $15. she has "preexisting conditions". damn the man!

12:33 PM  
Blogger scott from tucson said...

re: pizza. my wife and i ate at the original uno in chicago once. great pie. the chain unos that followed, not so much.

12:34 PM  
Blogger gatiger said...

bear - just so you know that i'm not a 100% moron, my earlier dining questions were "the office" references. in actuality, i'm really more like 63% moron though mrs tiger may state a higher % to be more accurate.

12:38 PM  
Blogger FSJ-Oku's Mentor said...

Jet:

Re: the BBQ Joints.....

I have been to several of them... Arichibalds, Green Top, Big Bob Gibsons, Bob Sykes & the Brick Pit.

I'd rate the ones I have been to as follows:

1) Archibalds (by a mile)
2) Green Top
3) Brick Pit
4) Bob Gibsons
5) Bob Sykes

Haven't been to the others...
but some I would suggest are:

1) Miss Myra's in Cahaba Heights (See Bart Starr there often). Best banana pudding on earth too.
2) Lizzies (in East Gadsden)
3) Rib it Up (in Bham-on the Legion Field side of I-65)

Out of State BBQ:
1) Jenkins BBQ in Jacksonville, FL.. They serve it from behind bullet proof glass. No joke. Pretty good though
2) Melvin's -Just outside of Charleston. Very good.
3) Louie Mueller's....The Holy Grail of Texas BBQ

12:42 PM  
Blogger TarHeelTiger (JaySr) said...

Pizza Paradiso in Georgetown DC is better than in Napoli/Roma/Firenze, according to Miss THT.
Made with fresh mozarella

http://www.eatyourpizza.com/

12:43 PM  
Blogger TarHeelTiger (JaySr) said...

Thanks, Jet. I'm printing that list for reference.

12:44 PM  
Blogger gatiger said...

Note to all Hotties - if you ever think you're having a bad day at the office, think again. That is, unless the chances of a Komodo Dragon climbing through your deskside window is pretty realistic.

"Sucks to be this guy"

12:44 PM  
Blogger Peter Frankenschmidt said...

gatiger,

what fund manages your IRA? mine is still pretty heavy in stocks (= losing my retirement butt), and I'd like to flip to a bond heavy one, at least for the short term.

12:44 PM  
Blogger TarHeelTiger (JaySr) said...

oops, Thanks FSJ, sorry if I insulted you and/or Jet (probably both ;-)

12:45 PM  
Blogger gatiger said...

I judge myself when I use improper grammar.

Dang.

12:48 PM  
Blogger FSJ-BBQ Guru said...

THT:

You didn't insult me as I have no idea what you supposedly said... ;-)

12:48 PM  
Blogger SeanZ said...

So what's this about 3 P.M.?

12:51 PM  
Blogger BinOBA said...

The Shed over in ocean springs,MS is pretty awesome Q. Stopped in last week on the way to Mardi Gras, worth the stop just to look around a lil bit.
WWW.the shedbbq.com

12:51 PM  
Blogger BinOBA said...

I hear at 3 pm we are all flushing our toilets at the same time.

12:51 PM  
Blogger gatiger said...

THT - through the man, my money is managed via Fidelity. Outside of the man, I have some spread out in a few places being managed by the likes of folks at A.G. Edwards and Morgan Keegan. Then of course I have the money stashed away in the house.

On a somewhat separate note in case there are any ne'er-do-well's perusing this site, at the gatiger household, we are ardent supporters of the 2nd Amendment. And we have a dog. The more you know...

12:52 PM  
Blogger FSJ-BBQ Guru said...

BinOBA:

I saw that place on Food Network... Looks like a neat place.

12:52 PM  
Blogger Peter Frankenschmidt said...

FSJ. Jenkins is good. Lived in J-Vill for a while, and would drive by there to avoid traffic. Among the rotton smells of downtown homeless people, that block would smell like a heavenly perfume!


Off the beaten path BBQ find: Factory BBQ in Oklahoma. Good stuff.

12:53 PM  
Blogger Bear82 said...

gatiger - never thought you were a moron, but thanks for the clarification. as for BBQ, I go to the Brick Pit here in Mobile 1-2 times/month. Hardly ever go to Dreamland. I have had great BBQ in Kansas City; the best place, called LC's, has bars on the windows, and looks like it should be shut down due to cleanliness concerns; however, I have found most of the great BBQ joints in the US look like that. Only exception- Montgomery Inn in Cincinnati; but that is hardly BBQ, IMO

12:54 PM  
Blogger TarHeelTiger (JaySr) said...

FSJ - I directed thanks to Jet when I should have directed thanks to you for your list of bbq favs.
I figured confusing you and Jet for each other probably insulted one or both.

12:54 PM  
Blogger FSJ-BBQ Guru said...

THT:

Jet really wants to be me....

LOL.

12:56 PM  
Blogger Sen. Jet -- Tool of The Man said...

Let's make this clear:

GaTiger IS a moron.

Thank you. That is all.

12:56 PM  
Blogger gatiger said...

To the BBQ question, the best I've found in the NE ATL area is at Smokejack in downtown Alpharetta followed by Low Country which is in an unincorporated area (I think)of Cumming (yes, that IS the name).

12:56 PM  
Blogger Sen. Jet -- Tool of The Man said...

FSJ:

As this is a family blog, just let me respond by saying:

No, I don't. Not in a million years, you smelly Bammer.

12:57 PM  
Blogger TarHeelTiger (JaySr) said...

seems like every week we talk bbq.

That's one reason I like HABOTN so much!

12:59 PM  
Blogger Peter Frankenschmidt said...

you are the only person I've ever heard say good things about Lowcountry...In Atlanta, can't beat Daddy Dz, but I've probably said that before.

12:59 PM  
Blogger Sen. Jet -- Tool of The Man said...

PF ...

that's because GaTiger is a moron.

1:00 PM  
Blogger FSJ-BBQ Guru said...

Exactly Bear....

I do not want my BBQ joints or bars to be pristine places..

I like it dirty.

1:00 PM  
Blogger Peter Frankenschmidt said...

I'm happy about the bbq conversation. it's the closest I get to eating any, usually. as BBQ leaves a very specific impression on my mind, I can almost smell and taste the places discussed (that I've had, anyway). That's very satisfying.

1:03 PM  
Blogger gatiger said...

PF - Low Country isn't great, but I certainly don't think it's bad. It's just one of two places in my immediate area where I actually like their BBQ. The other places around here that try it are of the chain variety and I typically try to avoid those. There is one other places I've heard good things about but have never been since it's not very convenient so I won't report on it. Perhaps in one of our upcoming weekly BBQ discussions.

1:04 PM  
Blogger FSJ-BBQ Guru said...

And for the record....

The only Dreamland fit to eat at is the original.

The one outside of Atlanta is atrocious.

The one in Bham is fair...

I hear bad things about the other "new" ones.

1:04 PM  
Blogger Sen. Jet -- Tool of The Man said...

FSJ ...

Don't come to the Gump for Dreamland.

Hey, just don't come to the Gump at all, Bammer.

Feeling kinda fiesty today.

1:05 PM  
Blogger gatiger said...

Senator Jet can begin expecting deliveries of unsavory items to his home address, office address and office email very shortly.

This moron has all of the information required to make it happen.

So there.

1:07 PM  
Blogger FSJ-BBQ Guru said...

The only restaurant in Montgomery that made an impression on me is one that was just on the edge of downtown that some lady ran out of what obviously was a house at some point...

I went there a couple of times for lunch...

Have no idea the name...but there was a story behind it.

1:07 PM  
Blogger gatiger said...

FSJ - Martha's Place? There's a story to it as I recall.

1:11 PM  
Blogger michael said...

The Commissary in Memphis is my favorite BBQ joint. Rendezvous and Neely's are close behind. Corky's is quite good, too. The perfect BBQ sandwich would consist of Neely's meat and the Commissary's sauce.

I am from Memphis, so my word is final on this.

1:15 PM  
Blogger §teve said...

312, incredible. These days the campfire attendance may beat out the basketball games.

1:22 PM  
Blogger Peter Frankenschmidt said...

Memphis is a meld of dry rub and Carolina vinegar, right? Dry rub when smoking, then served with a traditional vinegar sauce? If so, I approve. There is nothing better than a vinegar sauce, but it can hinder the smoke when cooked heavily in it. Dry rubs solve this problem. I love that Memphis/ West Memphis/North MS/NW AL bbq....and the blues that go with it.

1:29 PM  
Blogger Peter Frankenschmidt said...

You know what I hate about heavy tomato BBQ sauces? The sweet flavor that results is artificially created. Sweetness should result from the decay of a good quality slab of meat, not from some sauce that is added. That is why vinegar is best. It balances out the sweetness of the meat.

1:32 PM  
Blogger Sen. Jet -- Tool of The Man said...

Just seein' if you were awake, GaTiger.

Fight the enemy, GaTiger.

Fight FSJ!

1:36 PM  
Blogger Peter Frankenschmidt said...

Jay G,

White shirt to support the team you cover (but aren't a fan of), or to blend in?

1:38 PM  
Blogger michael said...

You are so wrong, Frankenbummer. Memphis sauce is tomato based. The vinegar stuff is the crap they have here in Huntsville. The meat here is no good either. I understand wanting it juicy, but it is so wet and unfirm that it seems like it has been soaking in water or something.

You have not had the best tomato based sauce. They serve it some places here in Huntsville, and it is no good. The Commissary, which I mentioned earlier, makes a spicy tomato based sauce, and it is my favorite.

You are right on the dry rub, though. The Rendezvous has really famous dry rub ribs, and when you see ribs "Memphis Style" at other restaurants, that is what you are getting.

1:38 PM  
Blogger BinOBA said...

A vinegar based sauce is a "carolina style" bbq sauce.

1:45 PM  
Blogger Peter Frankenschmidt said...

Its more of the tomato sauce and vinegar, though, if I remember correctly (explaining the "spicy" aspect you speak of). That's what I call a Carolina Vinegar (which in itself is incorrect, as I've had three types of vinegar sauce in the Carolinas). Not a full on vinegar sauce a la Huntsville (which I kinda like, but gets wet and sloppy), but still has vinegar nontheless. It certainly isn't a tomato paste that turns out super sweet and resembles ketchup in texture.

1:49 PM  
Blogger BinOBA said...

Let's not forget our friends at Moe's here in orange beach on the BBQ topic. Think that might be my lunch destination.

1:49 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Wow, you guys really know your BBQ! Me, on the other hand, being a Yankee, I have no clue what you're talking about. Jim 'n Nick's and Golden Rule are good to me - you guys are probably cringing right now!

1:50 PM  
Blogger BinOBA said...

I'm a sweet baby ray's bbq sauce fan myself. I like to grill off some poblanos and onions and pull a lime or lemon off my tree and let that simmer for a while. I'll also get the kc masterpiece basic sauce and doll that up with stuff around the house. Got some garlic sea salt i've grown very fond of lately.

1:52 PM  
Blogger Bear82 said...

for my 2 cents, if it is cooked correctly, you don't need no stinkin sauce.... same with steak. flavor comes from the type of wood/smoke. a small, tiny amount of sauce on the side for occasional dipping is ok. and yes, vinegar sauces- carolinas, Memphis - dry rub, TX/KC - tomato/molassas (sp?) based.

1:53 PM  
Blogger Zimas4Ziemba said...

With all of this talk about bbq sauces I feel like I'm at an Auburn Football recruiting meeting circa 2007...

1:54 PM  
Blogger Peter Frankenschmidt said...

I find error in calling anything BBQ related "Carolina-style". All four types of BBq (tomato sauce, tomato paste, vinegar, and mustard) are well represented throughout different regions of the Carolinas. As are variations and hybrids of the different types. That being said, I use that term.

1:54 PM  
Blogger gatiger said...

Luv - my general rule of thumb is that if it's a chain, or an establishment with more than two locations, I'll likely stay away from it if the choice is mine alone.

1:54 PM  
Blogger gatiger said...

Sen. Jet - just know that I don't start out of the gate ready to play dirty, but if pushed, I will. Oh, I will.

1:55 PM  
Blogger SeanZ said...

Binoba, I agree on Sweet Baby Rays...that is the only sauce I used for BBQing.

1:55 PM  
Blogger Peter Frankenschmidt said...

...oops. left out dry rub.

1:55 PM  
Blogger Bear82 said...

BinOBA - have you said you run a restaurant in Orange Beach? Which one? the wife and I may travel to the eastern shore soon and I would like to support another HOTTIE's career..

1:55 PM  
Blogger SeanZ said...

I'm also a huge fan of Mike and Ed's in Auburn.

1:56 PM  
Blogger Bear82 said...

to sum it up: if you like that type of BBQ, it is good, and its your favorite, well then, that's the best one...

1:57 PM  
Blogger Zimas4Ziemba said...

Enough of the BBQ talk.

Can we talk about something that doesn't suck??? Let's talk about our wives on wrestling night...

1:58 PM  
Blogger jhag said...

sup peeps?

1:58 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

gatiger, I have limited knowledge, but I think chains are all we have here in the Bham area.

1:58 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

SeanZ, where in Auburn is that?

1:59 PM  
Blogger michael said...

Frankenbummer: I know the spicy sauce you are talking about, but I am talking about kethup in texture spicy sauce. It is unique to this one restaurant. Neely's sauce is also a little spicy, but it is thinner, more like what you are talking about. Corky's is really sweet, which I still like, but it is not my favorite. It still beats vinegar in my book.

I am proud to say that in the wikipedia entry for BBQ styles, there is a list of styles varying from state to state, but Memphis is the only city to get a section all to ourselves.You guys should come to BBQ Fest in May. It is awesome.

2:01 PM  
Blogger SeanZ said...

Mike and Ed's is at the corner on College St across from the Spur, I don't know what the other street is called.

2:01 PM  
Blogger Bear82 said...

Z4Z - your wife is a wrestler? which one? how does her busy travel schedule hurt your relationship? do you travel with her? are the hotels comped? what do you think about all the airline fees nowadays?

2:03 PM  
Blogger michael said...

Seanz, my favorite in Auburn was also Mike and Ed's. Pretty good stuff. While Memphis style is my favorite, I do like the spicier mustard based stuff that seemed to rule down south. I am no snob, after all. Well, except for when it comes to the whole vinegar thing.

2:03 PM  
Blogger SeanZ said...

College and Mitcham Ave. Right before you get to Glenn coming from 280.

2:03 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Thanks, SeanZ. We'll have to check it out - esp.now that I know it has michael's stamp of approval too!

2:05 PM  
Blogger Peter Frankenschmidt said...

so, BBQ is like the BC coaching situation?

2:05 PM  
Blogger TarHeelTiger (JaySr) said...

We (NC) are BBQ!

sorry, I was busy and didn't get a chance to make that bold factual statement in a timely manner.

2:06 PM  
Blogger BinOBA said...

I've hit that Memphis in may before for some Panic and some Gov't mule (alan woody gov't mule). Memphis is a great culinary town if you can keep from getting stabbed or shot.

2:07 PM  
Blogger SeanZ said...

Heck I might go down there tonight, have dinner and make my way over to the BEMC for basketball, but that's my foolish side talkin...we'll see what happens.

2:08 PM  
Blogger Zimas4Ziemba said...

Z4Z - your wife is a wrestler? which one? how does her busy travel schedule hurt your relationship? do you travel with her? are the hotels comped? what do you think about all the airline fees nowadays?
**********************************

1) Rarely. Like on my Birthday and Valentine's Day.
2) No comment
3) She is an IHOP waitress, so she doesn't travel very far or often
4) Only when we take the public transportation on Saturday to do our grocery shopping.
5) What does comped mean?
6) I have not had to pay any airline fees ever since O'bama took his rightful place as King of the Free World.

2:09 PM  
Blogger BinOBA said...

Everywhere has it's good eats i suppose. I like it here where i am because the spanish influence is prevalent here and i can drive 3hrs to NOLA and it's french influenced there. You don't see the spanish influence here like you once did. Good Spanish rice is hard to come by these days but you can get a bowl of gumbo anywhere.

2:11 PM  
Blogger Peter Frankenschmidt said...

please. Your fine neighbor to the south owns that claim. You just copied.

2:12 PM  
Blogger SeanZ said...

so we've got 45 minutes until the HABOTN gets hoppin' I wonder what's goin on

2:12 PM  
Blogger michael said...

Binoba – the food still tastes good after you’ve been stabbed and shot. Unless, of course, you are spitting up blood.

2:15 PM  
Blogger TarHeelTiger (JaySr) said...

Peter- North Carolina is a vale of humility between two mountains of conceit (so someone claimed 150 yrs ago).

SC can claim hash. BBQ is ours! We've been kind enough to share it with many other states.

2:18 PM  
Blogger Bear82 said...

Z4Z - classic answers. I almost spit up my drink...

2:18 PM  
Blogger FSJ-BBQ Guru said...

I'm more of a spicy thin sauce fan

Like Archibald's, Dreamland, etc. They both incorporate ketchup and mustard in theirs to get the "semi-orange" color.

Most commercial sauces are way too thick, IMO.

2:20 PM  
Blogger Pork Chop Express said...

Blues, BBQ and Bullets are what makes Memphis great

2:21 PM  
Blogger TarHeelTiger (JaySr) said...

NC Barbecue Trail (24 BBQ joints)

http://www.ncbbqsociety.com/trail.html

2:23 PM  
Blogger TarHeelTiger (JaySr) said...

I'm going to have to print this whole thread. Too many good BBQ suggestions here not to save it for travels (and posterity).

2:25 PM  
Blogger FSJ-BBQ Guru said...

THT:

If I am ever off for several weeks at a time..I am going on tour..

That is if my wife will let me.

2:27 PM  
Blogger Zimas4Ziemba said...

Jay G won't tell you, but if the post comments in this thread reach over 200, then Jay G will be as the French say la' furloughed. Please folks, if you must post a comment and thus bring Jay G one step closer to his involuntary sabbatical, please make sure it is not drivelous...

2:28 PM  
Blogger SeanZ said...

Drivel. :)

2:29 PM  
Blogger gatiger said...

FSJ - will you tow your new grill behind you on your travels?

2:29 PM  
Blogger TarHeelTiger (JaySr) said...

FSJ will be showin' them boys how to cook it!

2:31 PM  
Blogger Kristina said...

When did Ziemba start posting when it wasn't a campfire?

2:31 PM  
Blogger SeanZ said...

Instead of tanning do Bammers just slather themselves in BBQ sauce and get toasty on their port-a-grills?

2:33 PM  
Blogger TarHeelTiger (JaySr) said...

FSJ- I was hoping to spend retirement bbq touring. My planned retirement at 80 has now been pushed back to 120.

2:33 PM  
Blogger Kathy said...

FYI for whomever was asking the other day, the 2009 football season tickets are $395.

2:33 PM  
Blogger SeanZ said...

395 ain't bad...I'm dreading the bill for my Titans tickets...that's never a fun day.

2:35 PM  
Blogger FSJ-BBQ Guru said...

Here's my pithy comment... ($1 to Bill O'Reilly):

Dreamland sauce starts with Kraft sauce as a base, IMO.

So, knowing that, I came across this clone recipe for Dreamland sauce. This is a pretty close clone for it...It still lacks something and I am working on that..but it is pretty close. Close enough to know it is what they use. If you need it more thin add some more vinegar.

1 qt Kraft bbq sauce (Plain old Kraft)
1/2 c French's yellow
1 c vinegar
1c water
1/2 c molasses
4 tbsp Tabasco
You might also add a TBSP of Rub or Spice Blend to taste...

There is a more prominent clone recipe out there on the internet..I've tried it and although the color is right it doesn't taste the same to me....

Dreamland Clone

And sorry to Jay for turning HABOTN into Food Network...At least I didn't link the clip going around of Paula Deen losing her pants in front of an audience....

2:38 PM  
Blogger Zimas4Ziemba said...

$395 would make a lot of single moms happy....

2:38 PM  
Blogger scottie b in tennessee said...

i've been dreading paying my Tigers Unlimited donation for my tickets. i've got 2 more days to do that. yikes!

2:38 PM  
Blogger scott from tucson said...

395 is a lot to pay for the w. va and alabama games. all the other good games are on the road, if i remember correctly.

2:41 PM  
Blogger FSJ-BBQ Guru said...

$395 is not bad at all.

2:41 PM  
Blogger SeanZ said...

Ole Miss will be a good game this year...so there's at least one more decent game.

2:43 PM  
Blogger FSJ-BBQ Guru said...

Ole Miss will be a very good game.

In fact, I wouldn't be shocked if they won the west.

2:44 PM  
Blogger Sen. Jet -- Tool of The Man said...

Quit yer yappin'

If we're playin', it's a game worth seeing.

You get to see Lupe, Troop, Gus and the crew.

You get to see Aycock, Onterrio, DeAngelo and Tyrik

You get to see Eltoro!

2:45 PM  
Blogger SeanZ said...

I mean I have no complaints, I went to 2 games last year: LaMo and UTM.

2:46 PM  
Blogger SeanZ said...

200.

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