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2.24.2009

All we have are the embers

Thanks to the 312 people who participated in our Tuesday night campfire.

We opened at 8:40. We closed at 11:17.

Topics included Jonna Chizik, David Oku, Dontae Aycock's highlights, drunk texting, Gene Chizik's chin and the dismissals at WNSP radio in Mobile.

Big ups to Tuesday's chat stalwarts: jhag, Will, David Oku (prior to BANHAMMERING), Kristina, FSJ, MonD, j-z, Z4Z, Jet, wakerider, Nanner, Michael (in two tours) and newcomer PJunkie.

A great time was had by all.

232 Comments:

Tar Heel Tiger said...: oops, wrong room; 8:49 PM
JgobravesHAG said...: two bits; 11:17 PM
michael said...: fajfas jklfsa kjlfaslkjguer vb; 11:22 PM
Jay G. Tate said...: substance.; 11:23 PM
JgobravesHAG said...: Have a good one; 11:24 PM
Miller said...: Sorry I could only make a brief appearance tonight folks... I hope I didn't let anyone down.

I'll do better next time I promise.; 11:33 PM
Matt said...: Seinfeld and studying limited my time tonight. See you at the game tomorrow Jay!; 11:34 PM
chip chip said...: What was the deal this time on WNSP?
I know they fired McCready for not singing the praises of Mike Shula and helping break the Mike Price story.
I don't know what Seth & Co. did or did not do, but they were better than the replacement programming streaming in from Bammerham.

I listened to Sportsdrive from day #1 with Neal, Taylor and Issac. It was as good as any national talk show I have ever heard on ESPN and remained that way even after Taylor left. The show somehow managed to cater to the Alabama crowd and maintain its journalistic dignity nonetheless.

Jay, you were a big reason I listened to the show because of your Wednesday updates. I was listening the day you and WNSP parted ways after Neal was fired. That was definitely one of the ultimate moments in the history of that show. The show had never been the same since that day and is now dead. McCready pretty much took all the credibility with him when he was shown the door.; 11:54 PM
Matt said...: WNSP is now a joke. Did I hear Finebaum on there the other day or was I just out of it? Completely unprofessional, which is a disappointment because I used to love listening to them for all of my sports coverage. And what's with those stupid hunting radio shows they do now? FAIL!; 12:05 AM
YoungPJ said...: Boom goes the dynamite.; 1:56 AM
Jet said...: It's 4:55, let's go beat Bama.; 4:55 AM
Anonymous said...: Good Morning, Hotties! It's Humpity Hump Hump Hump Day!!

Thanks to JustWin, Jet, Monica and TarHeel for the b-day sentiments!; 5:29 AM
Monica said...: I love Campfiring.

Good morning Hotties how are you?
Don't you know me I'm your native son,
I'm the train they call The City of New Orleans,
I'll be gone five hundred miles when the day is done.

Happy Ash Wednesday.; 5:44 AM
Tar Heel Tiger said...: Good morning ladies! Hope y'all are having a great day and continue to do so.; 5:52 AM
Tar Heel Tiger said...: Jet- good morning to you, too. You finished that workout yet?; 5:53 AM
Monica said...: Hey Hey THT - It's a gorgeous day in Alexandia, VA - great sunrise out my Marriott window.; 6:03 AM
Jet said...: Yep, TarHeel ...

Coach Boone took us on a run, and we ended up at the battlefield at Gettysburg. He told us we're still fighting the same fight that they fought back then -- brother against brother. He told us to listen to their souls.; 6:28 AM
ehyou said...: A good morning to all out there in Hottieland.

Too bad I had to miss the campfire last night, I got a sick daughter.; 6:37 AM
Miller said...: alright folks... off to another day of the Fisheries conference!
Have yourselves a fine day!; 6:39 AM
ehyou said...: Wow, I hadn't heard that about WNSP. Earlier this month we lost Bill Shanks' afternoon show here in Macon (also 105.5 coincidentally). Bill is a decent UGA guy....I know, hard to believe.

I thought the national ESPN feed they replaced him with was bad, but Paul Finebaum?!?! Are they TRYING to run everyone out of Mobile County?; 6:48 AM
Norm said...: Morning Hotties - sorry to have missed the festivities last night and I'm sure the Campfire suffered somewhat due to my absence. But, I just can't stay awake 'till all hours of the night like 9:30 or so like you kids.

Something I thought about from posts yesterday and last night - if Michael was raised by wolves, I find it interesting that he made his foray into the sheep business in Idaho as we all know that sheep prefer to travel in different circles than wolves.

Perhaps that's the true reason behind his failure in this line of work - he continuously devoured his own inventory.; 7:15 AM
Seanzie said...: GaTiger, maybe Michael just has an identity crisis and likes to parade around like a....wolf in sheep's clothing? Ok that was bad, but a happy hump day/ Ash Wednesday to all the hotties.; 7:18 AM
Quitstina said...: Good morning hotties! I can't believe I left before Oku got banhammered. I don't think we want this kid in Auburn. Drama City.; 7:22 AM
Jay G. Tate said...: That was a technical banhammering, not a true knockout. He was leaving, he was mildly annoying and I had an itchy trigger finger.; 7:30 AM
Jay G. Tate said...: Can't believe the P in PJunkie is for "political."

What a letdown.; 7:35 AM
Quitstina said...: Well you can't let the hammer get rusty I guess.; 7:45 AM
Jay G. Tate said...: I have people to handle that.; 7:47 AM
Scott M. Brannan said...: sorry i missed it last nite. sure it was a good one. :(; 7:47 AM
Tar Heel Tiger said...: another great day in HABOTNOPOLIS

knock on wood; technology working smooooooothly this morning.; 7:48 AM
Seanzie said...: That whole central time thing really messes it up for me, I love campfire but I also love sleep.; 7:48 AM
Tar Heel Tiger said...: people plural?; 7:49 AM
Tar Heel Tiger said...: sleep doesn't do me much good; i always wake up exhausted.; 7:50 AM
Jay G. Tate said...: Can't wait for jhag to report in. He went the distance and had school this morning. Surely a fun combination.; 7:53 AM
Seanzie said...: Jay, those young folks can do it easy. I used to be young and stay up until 3 or 4 and still make an 8 A.M. class.; 7:55 AM
JgobravesHAG said...: I have returned; 8:07 AM
Tar Heel Tiger said...: what an animal! mornin' jhag; 8:10 AM
Scott M. Brannan said...: but jhag, the real question is if you can campfire during class? that would be most impressive.; 8:14 AM
Norm said...: I recall my first job after college - I'd go out with the boys which more often that not turned into an all-nighter, come home for a shower & change of clothes then go to work. After work, nap for a few hours and repeat the previous night activities.

Now days, the only parts of that I can do are the shower followed by going to work. I fantasize about taking naps but that's just not in the cards.; 8:16 AM
JgobravesHAG said...: I don't see why not... Haha sounds like a good challenge though.; 8:26 AM
AUMom said...: Sorry I missed the campfire last night. I wish there were a Cliff Notes version available (more than the subject topics).

Y'all have a great day. It's a busy day. I hope to be back for the afternoon.

PS Oku needs to be banhammered. The real one, anyway.; 8:37 AM
weagle251 said...: I just want to agree with everything chip chip said re: WNSP. I hate that they canned Issac, but Seth was an utter waste. Sports Drive has been dead since they canned Neal. All they did was make it official last week.; 8:50 AM
Jet said...: If JHag campfires during class, wouldn't it result in a fire drill?

And how would Dontae Aycock respond to that? Or Oku? Or Michael?; 9:05 AM
tigercowboy said...: Not much sleep last night...kept thinking of headlines for Aycocks big games. The campfire broke out and spread out of control on that issue for sure.; 9:22 AM
AUnMobilz (CAM-"Da Man") said...: Good Morning HOTTIES!!!!

Trying to get over Mardi Gras here in Mobile the last two days.... seems like a missed a lot of good shiggdy!; 9:29 AM
chip chip said...: I don't even think WNSP is the AU affiliate anymore. I could only find the basketball game on 105.1 which was fuzzy to say the least. WNSP was playing USA vs. Middle Tennessee or something instead. Maybe AU was on tape delay? At least they still play the ESPN programming. I pay attention to their ads so I know who not to do business with. It's basically a mouthpiece for the REC and Bammerham. Pat Dye is the only reason I would ever listen to that show.; 9:36 AM
ehyou said...: weagle - Purple Jesus Dude is awesome!!!; 9:37 AM
michael said...: Having been raised by wolves, I am deathly afraid of fire. So I follow any fire drill with the utmost seriousness, Jet.; 9:39 AM
Harrison said...: Mon, how do you live in W.V? It is the coldest place on earth; 9:59 AM
Jet said...: The Secretary of Snark, Harrison, has arrived.; 10:10 AM
Anonymous said...: AUMom said...
Oku needs to be banhammered. The real one, anyway.

Agreed, AUMom.; 10:29 AM
Will said...: I saw a link out there on the interwebs that showed some pics of the girl who Oku is supposedly moving to Neb to be close to. Lemme just say, at 18, she might not have been worth moving to Neb for, but it would have been worth a loooooong visit. (the site is a FB blog and it is SFW)

http://www.3sib.com/2009/02/24/maybe-david-oku-isnt-crazy-after-all/#more-6206; 10:31 AM
Will said...: Sorry for linking another blog Jay, but I thought this was worth sharing.; 10:31 AM
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Anonymous said...: Will, she looks trashy.; 10:32 AM
j-z said...: I am diet coke free for 12+ hours now. The headaches and blurry vision are setting in. Send help...; 10:36 AM
Harrison said...: Jet- i am back after a ski trip to the antarctic, some people call it west virginia.; 10:37 AM
Tar Heel Tiger said...: hot trash, er.. I mean white trash.
I think it's a hoax.

I am diet coke free for 2+ minutes now. The headaches and blurry vision are setting in.; 10:38 AM
Seanzie said...: J-Z, no one is more than a few steps away from a Diet coke at anytime, not even Monica over there in West Virginia. Feed the addiction.; 10:38 AM
ballin said...: Somehow I get the feeling that Oku and that girl don't go together like peas and carrots; 10:39 AM
Harrison said...: i also do not buy the Oku girlfriend pics. Although i do appreciate the pictures of hot girls; 10:39 AM
Anonymous said...: SeanZ, except for those of us who don't drink Diet Coke. ;-); 10:41 AM
Will said...: LUV, I think the good men of Confederate Railroad said it best when they said, "I like my women a little on the trashy side."

Please don't tell my wife I said that.; 10:42 AM
Seanzie said...: Luv, I despise diet drinks myself, but I'm never far from Diet Coke. This is the truth.; 10:43 AM
j-z said...: I gave up soft drinks and trashy women for Lent. Don't tell my wife.; 10:43 AM
Anonymous said...: TarHeel, you're secret is safe with me!; 10:43 AM
Seanzie said...: Ah Lent, it's that time of year. I hope no one plans on giving up the HABOTN...; 10:45 AM
Anonymous said...: SeanZ, cases and cases of it, right?; 10:47 AM
Tar Heel Tiger said...: cases and cases...

Luv, you talkin 'bout my basement?; 10:48 AM
Anonymous said...: LOL No, I was referring to the fact that SeanZ works for Coca-Cola.; 10:49 AM
Seanzie said...: Luv, we actually only have a vending/fountain in my location. However, just a few miles up the street there lies the Willy Wonka plant, Coke style.; 10:51 AM
Anonymous said...: A vending machine? You have to pay for it??; 10:52 AM
Norm said...: seanz - really? do you really have to pay for it? we have the fountains which are chock full of your product in every breakroom. even though it's free, i still rarely drink it and stick to my water. but still... you have to pay for it? i mean, that'd be like working for the u.s. treasury and not getting to take home some free $.; 10:55 AM
Tar Heel Tiger said...: 25 cents/can from the vending machines at 2 of the places I work. I still take my own Diet Cokes to work as the fear and consequences of the "sold out" light are too great.; 10:58 AM
Wakeriderof87 said...: I feel so proud to have my name appear in one of Jay's Posts, this must be what it feels like to win a Nobel Prize; 11:05 AM
Tar Heel Tiger said...: I'm sure it's the exact same feeling...without all the money.; 11:09 AM
JgobravesHAG said...: The Oku girlffriend stuff is kinda silly; we can't believe some crap someone is posting who knows where, about a random chick.; 11:12 AM
Wakeriderof87 said...: My father worked for Coke for 25ish years and we never got free coke. Although towards the time he retired they started selling product cheap to employees.; 11:18 AM
Jet said...: I have given up losing to UAT in anything in perpetuity for Lent.; 11:20 AM
Scott M. Brannan said...: i worked at the Pepsi bottling plant in Lexington, KY one summer during grad school. i think i put on 5 lbs just because we would drink it straight off the line before it got the tops put on, ice cold. good times, man. good times.; 11:23 AM
Peter Frankenschmidt said...: The new Fanta Zero drink is fabulous as far as doet drinks go. Completely destroys my previous favorite diet drink ( a certain secondary product of a secondary product line). Destroys!!!!

Oh, and diet Orange Crush is pretty good, too, but it's a faker. Still a good bit of sugar in it

Still,do any of those really beat strawberry sugar-free Kool-Aid? Oh Yeah.; 11:30 AM
Jet said...: If it's all the same, I'd rather talk about Oku's GF than diet drinks.

Or maybe we can talk about grits. Or BBQ. But not the BBQ Boys. They're outta here.; 11:38 AM
Jet said...: This is divine intervention:

Seven Alabama BBQ joints listed in new book.

http://blog.al.com/living-news/2009/02/seven_alabama_eateries_make_be.html; 11:41 AM
Jay G. Tate said...: Never been to any of them, Jet, but I'm not a barbecue guy...; 11:53 AM
Jay G. Tate said...: Be sure to check back this afternoon. The HABOTN will be hoppin' around 3.; 11:53 AM
j-z said...: Notice the lack of any of those 7 being in Central Alabama?; 11:54 AM
Seanzie said...: Re: Paying for drinks...well it's a funny thing, downtown, there are vending machines @ no cost to the employees. Where I work, we have heavily discounted machines and free fountain. I've so far managed to avoid weight gain.

Re: Diet Drinks, the only 2 I can drink are Vault Zero and Cherry Coke Zero.; 12:00 PM
Unknown said...: sorry i missed the fire, HOTTIES. Just got back yesterday from Princeton, NJ with a side trip to NYC/Times Square. first time in my life going there (NYC). Wow, what a place. GRAY'S PAPAYA, ESPNZONE, street vendors, yes, i ate them at them all. Not too cold, 40 degrees, perfect times. I should be posting more from now on, for those who care.; 12:07 PM
BinOBA said...: I watched the AU/USCal game from that espnzone, it sucked.; 12:12 PM
Norm said...: jet / jz - i noticed each of the 7 were in places i'm extremely unlikely to be (& one i don't know where it is). so, the list is worthless. way to go jet.

bear - did you get some great nyc pizza from sbarro? or, did you go to red lobster? those are michael scott's favorite places to eat when he goes to nyc. just curious.; 12:13 PM
scott,will not,from tucson said...: april 1st i get to stick it to the man! on that day, thanks to my joining the rolls of those working for the man, i get to cancel our privately obtained health insurance and switch to the company's health plan. the kicker is that it's the same insurer and i get better coverage from them at $800 per month cheaper. it's a small victory, i know.; 12:15 PM
BinOBA said...: My fave italian place in nyc.
http://www.nybarolo.com/; 12:18 PM
j-z said...: Scott, great news.

Gatiger, I can vouch for GreenTop. It's pretty good. I am surprised Jim's BBQ north of Billingsley was not on the list or Lanney's in Selma. Both are much better.; 12:18 PM
michael said...: I ate at Gray's Papaya when I went to NY a couple of years ago! It was great, and it's cheapness almost made up for the insane prices everywhere else. Well, not really, but it was still nice that it was cheap.; 12:19 PM
Anonymous said...: scott, $800? That's a huge victory!; 12:21 PM
Norm said...: scottieb - that's no small victory. put that savings into a roth or something along those lines other than the stock market and you'll be glad you did.; 12:23 PM
Peter Frankenschmidt said...: should students who are old enough to not be claimed as dependents, and therfor have a meanial income, file for welfare. The way I see it, Obama's still paying bank and auto execs big salaries, so why not. Sure, it's completely wrong, but the system itself seems to encourage immorality.; 12:24 PM
Peter Frankenschmidt said...: should students who are old enough to not be claimed as dependents, and therfor have a meanial income, file for welfare. The way I see it, Obama's still paying bank and auto execs big salaries, so why not. Sure, it's completely wrong, but the system itself seems to encourage immorality.; 12:25 PM
Anonymous said...: PF, the whole welfare system needs a complete overhaul. It's original intent was never to be what it has become.; 12:27 PM
Unknown said...: NYC Pizza- got it from some dive place off 8th ave. cannot recall the name, but it was great. it wasn't Sabarros, I can get that in most malls in the US. glad to see Jay G back working, as i am sure he is glad to be back. Also, I was a listener of WNSP Sportsdrive almost daily, and I liked Seth and Pat. Isaac was great, he got royally jobbed. also, it did seem to me that Seth was trying to be a bit Cowherd-like, IMO. I guess that won't fly here in Mobile.; 12:32 PM
scott,will not,from tucson said...: luv, it's very cool. also, my wifes copays go from $75 to $15. she has "preexisting conditions". damn the man!; 12:33 PM
scott,will not,from tucson said...: re: pizza. my wife and i ate at the original uno in chicago once. great pie. the chain unos that followed, not so much.; 12:34 PM
Norm said...: bear - just so you know that i'm not a 100% moron, my earlier dining questions were "the office" references. in actuality, i'm really more like 63% moron though mrs tiger may state a higher % to be more accurate.; 12:38 PM
FSJ said...: Jet:

Re: the BBQ Joints.....

I have been to several of them... Arichibalds, Green Top, Big Bob Gibsons, Bob Sykes & the Brick Pit.

I'd rate the ones I have been to as follows:

1) Archibalds (by a mile)
2) Green Top
3) Brick Pit
4) Bob Gibsons
5) Bob Sykes

Haven't been to the others...
but some I would suggest are:

1) Miss Myra's in Cahaba Heights (See Bart Starr there often). Best banana pudding on earth too.
2) Lizzies (in East Gadsden)
3) Rib it Up (in Bham-on the Legion Field side of I-65)

Out of State BBQ:
1) Jenkins BBQ in Jacksonville, FL.. They serve it from behind bullet proof glass. No joke. Pretty good though
2) Melvin's -Just outside of Charleston. Very good.
3) Louie Mueller's....The Holy Grail of Texas BBQ; 12:42 PM
Tar Heel Tiger said...: Pizza Paradiso in Georgetown DC is better than in Napoli/Roma/Firenze, according to Miss THT.
Made with fresh mozarella

http://www.eatyourpizza.com/; 12:43 PM
Tar Heel Tiger said...: Thanks, Jet. I'm printing that list for reference.; 12:44 PM
Norm said...: Note to all Hotties - if you ever think you're having a bad day at the office, think again. That is, unless the chances of a Komodo Dragon climbing through your deskside window is pretty realistic.

"Sucks to be this guy"; 12:44 PM
Peter Frankenschmidt said...: gatiger,

what fund manages your IRA? mine is still pretty heavy in stocks (= losing my retirement butt), and I'd like to flip to a bond heavy one, at least for the short term.; 12:44 PM
Tar Heel Tiger said...: oops, Thanks FSJ, sorry if I insulted you and/or Jet (probably both ;-); 12:45 PM
Norm said...: I judge myself when I use improper grammar.

Dang.; 12:48 PM
FSJ said...: THT:

You didn't insult me as I have no idea what you supposedly said... ;-); 12:48 PM
Seanzie said...: So what's this about 3 P.M.?; 12:51 PM
BinOBA said...: The Shed over in ocean springs,MS is pretty awesome Q. Stopped in last week on the way to Mardi Gras, worth the stop just to look around a lil bit.
WWW.the shedbbq.com; 12:51 PM
BinOBA said...: I hear at 3 pm we are all flushing our toilets at the same time.; 12:51 PM
Norm said...: THT - through the man, my money is managed via Fidelity. Outside of the man, I have some spread out in a few places being managed by the likes of folks at A.G. Edwards and Morgan Keegan. Then of course I have the money stashed away in the house.

On a somewhat separate note in case there are any ne'er-do-well's perusing this site, at the gatiger household, we are ardent supporters of the 2nd Amendment. And we have a dog. The more you know...; 12:52 PM
FSJ said...: BinOBA:

I saw that place on Food Network... Looks like a neat place.; 12:52 PM
Peter Frankenschmidt said...: FSJ. Jenkins is good. Lived in J-Vill for a while, and would drive by there to avoid traffic. Among the rotton smells of downtown homeless people, that block would smell like a heavenly perfume!

Off the beaten path BBQ find: Factory BBQ in Oklahoma. Good stuff.; 12:53 PM
Unknown said...: gatiger - never thought you were a moron, but thanks for the clarification. as for BBQ, I go to the Brick Pit here in Mobile 1-2 times/month. Hardly ever go to Dreamland. I have had great BBQ in Kansas City; the best place, called LC's, has bars on the windows, and looks like it should be shut down due to cleanliness concerns; however, I have found most of the great BBQ joints in the US look like that. Only exception- Montgomery Inn in Cincinnati; but that is hardly BBQ, IMO; 12:54 PM
Tar Heel Tiger said...: FSJ - I directed thanks to Jet when I should have directed thanks to you for your list of bbq favs.
I figured confusing you and Jet for each other probably insulted one or both.; 12:54 PM
FSJ said...: THT:

Jet really wants to be me....

LOL.; 12:56 PM
Jet said...: Let's make this clear:

GaTiger IS a moron.

Thank you. That is all.; 12:56 PM
Norm said...: To the BBQ question, the best I've found in the NE ATL area is at Smokejack in downtown Alpharetta followed by Low Country which is in an unincorporated area (I think)of Cumming (yes, that IS the name).; 12:56 PM
Jet said...: FSJ:

As this is a family blog, just let me respond by saying:

No, I don't. Not in a million years, you smelly Bammer.; 12:57 PM
Tar Heel Tiger said...: seems like every week we talk bbq.

That's one reason I like HABOTN so much!; 12:59 PM
Peter Frankenschmidt said...: you are the only person I've ever heard say good things about Lowcountry...In Atlanta, can't beat Daddy Dz, but I've probably said that before.; 12:59 PM
Jet said...: PF ...

that's because GaTiger is a moron.; 1:00 PM
FSJ said...: Exactly Bear....

I do not want my BBQ joints or bars to be pristine places..

I like it dirty.; 1:00 PM
Peter Frankenschmidt said...: I'm happy about the bbq conversation. it's the closest I get to eating any, usually. as BBQ leaves a very specific impression on my mind, I can almost smell and taste the places discussed (that I've had, anyway). That's very satisfying.; 1:03 PM
Norm said...: PF - Low Country isn't great, but I certainly don't think it's bad. It's just one of two places in my immediate area where I actually like their BBQ. The other places around here that try it are of the chain variety and I typically try to avoid those. There is one other places I've heard good things about but have never been since it's not very convenient so I won't report on it. Perhaps in one of our upcoming weekly BBQ discussions.; 1:04 PM
FSJ said...: And for the record....

The only Dreamland fit to eat at is the original.

The one outside of Atlanta is atrocious.

The one in Bham is fair...

I hear bad things about the other "new" ones.; 1:04 PM
Jet said...: FSJ ...

Don't come to the Gump for Dreamland.

Hey, just don't come to the Gump at all, Bammer.

Feeling kinda fiesty today.; 1:05 PM
Norm said...: Senator Jet can begin expecting deliveries of unsavory items to his home address, office address and office email very shortly.

This moron has all of the information required to make it happen.

So there.; 1:07 PM
FSJ said...: The only restaurant in Montgomery that made an impression on me is one that was just on the edge of downtown that some lady ran out of what obviously was a house at some point...

I went there a couple of times for lunch...

Have no idea the name...but there was a story behind it.; 1:07 PM
Norm said...: FSJ - Martha's Place? There's a story to it as I recall.; 1:11 PM
michael said...: The Commissary in Memphis is my favorite BBQ joint. Rendezvous and Neely's are close behind. Corky's is quite good, too. The perfect BBQ sandwich would consist of Neely's meat and the Commissary's sauce.

I am from Memphis, so my word is final on this.; 1:15 PM
Unknown said...: 312, incredible. These days the campfire attendance may beat out the basketball games.; 1:22 PM
Peter Frankenschmidt said...: Memphis is a meld of dry rub and Carolina vinegar, right? Dry rub when smoking, then served with a traditional vinegar sauce? If so, I approve. There is nothing better than a vinegar sauce, but it can hinder the smoke when cooked heavily in it. Dry rubs solve this problem. I love that Memphis/ West Memphis/North MS/NW AL bbq....and the blues that go with it.; 1:29 PM
Peter Frankenschmidt said...: You know what I hate about heavy tomato BBQ sauces? The sweet flavor that results is artificially created. Sweetness should result from the decay of a good quality slab of meat, not from some sauce that is added. That is why vinegar is best. It balances out the sweetness of the meat.; 1:32 PM
Jet said...: Just seein' if you were awake, GaTiger.

Fight the enemy, GaTiger.

Fight FSJ!; 1:36 PM
Peter Frankenschmidt said...: Jay G,

White shirt to support the team you cover (but aren't a fan of), or to blend in?; 1:38 PM
michael said...: You are so wrong, Frankenbummer. Memphis sauce is tomato based. The vinegar stuff is the crap they have here in Huntsville. The meat here is no good either. I understand wanting it juicy, but it is so wet and unfirm that it seems like it has been soaking in water or something.

You have not had the best tomato based sauce. They serve it some places here in Huntsville, and it is no good. The Commissary, which I mentioned earlier, makes a spicy tomato based sauce, and it is my favorite.

You are right on the dry rub, though. The Rendezvous has really famous dry rub ribs, and when you see ribs "Memphis Style" at other restaurants, that is what you are getting.; 1:38 PM
BinOBA said...: A vinegar based sauce is a "carolina style" bbq sauce.; 1:45 PM
Peter Frankenschmidt said...: Its more of the tomato sauce and vinegar, though, if I remember correctly (explaining the "spicy" aspect you speak of). That's what I call a Carolina Vinegar (which in itself is incorrect, as I've had three types of vinegar sauce in the Carolinas). Not a full on vinegar sauce a la Huntsville (which I kinda like, but gets wet and sloppy), but still has vinegar nontheless. It certainly isn't a tomato paste that turns out super sweet and resembles ketchup in texture.; 1:49 PM
BinOBA said...: Let's not forget our friends at Moe's here in orange beach on the BBQ topic. Think that might be my lunch destination.; 1:49 PM
Anonymous said...: Wow, you guys really know your BBQ! Me, on the other hand, being a Yankee, I have no clue what you're talking about. Jim 'n Nick's and Golden Rule are good to me - you guys are probably cringing right now!; 1:50 PM
BinOBA said...: I'm a sweet baby ray's bbq sauce fan myself. I like to grill off some poblanos and onions and pull a lime or lemon off my tree and let that simmer for a while. I'll also get the kc masterpiece basic sauce and doll that up with stuff around the house. Got some garlic sea salt i've grown very fond of lately.; 1:52 PM
Unknown said...: for my 2 cents, if it is cooked correctly, you don't need no stinkin sauce.... same with steak. flavor comes from the type of wood/smoke. a small, tiny amount of sauce on the side for occasional dipping is ok. and yes, vinegar sauces- carolinas, Memphis - dry rub, TX/KC - tomato/molassas (sp?) based.; 1:53 PM
Zimas4Ziemba said...: With all of this talk about bbq sauces I feel like I'm at an Auburn Football recruiting meeting circa 2007...; 1:54 PM
Peter Frankenschmidt said...: I find error in calling anything BBQ related "Carolina-style". All four types of BBq (tomato sauce, tomato paste, vinegar, and mustard) are well represented throughout different regions of the Carolinas. As are variations and hybrids of the different types. That being said, I use that term.; 1:54 PM
Norm said...: Luv - my general rule of thumb is that if it's a chain, or an establishment with more than two locations, I'll likely stay away from it if the choice is mine alone.; 1:54 PM
Norm said...: Sen. Jet - just know that I don't start out of the gate ready to play dirty, but if pushed, I will. Oh, I will.; 1:55 PM
Seanzie said...: Binoba, I agree on Sweet Baby Rays...that is the only sauce I used for BBQing.; 1:55 PM
Peter Frankenschmidt said...: ...oops. left out dry rub.; 1:55 PM
Unknown said...: BinOBA - have you said you run a restaurant in Orange Beach? Which one? the wife and I may travel to the eastern shore soon and I would like to support another HOTTIE's career..; 1:55 PM
Seanzie said...: I'm also a huge fan of Mike and Ed's in Auburn.; 1:56 PM
Unknown said...: to sum it up: if you like that type of BBQ, it is good, and its your favorite, well then, that's the best one...; 1:57 PM
Zimas4Ziemba said...: Enough of the BBQ talk.

Can we talk about something that doesn't suck??? Let's talk about our wives on wrestling night...; 1:58 PM
JgobravesHAG said...: sup peeps?; 1:58 PM
Anonymous said...: gatiger, I have limited knowledge, but I think chains are all we have here in the Bham area.; 1:58 PM
Anonymous said...: SeanZ, where in Auburn is that?; 1:59 PM
michael said...: Frankenbummer: I know the spicy sauce you are talking about, but I am talking about kethup in texture spicy sauce. It is unique to this one restaurant. Neely's sauce is also a little spicy, but it is thinner, more like what you are talking about. Corky's is really sweet, which I still like, but it is not my favorite. It still beats vinegar in my book.

I am proud to say that in the wikipedia entry for BBQ styles, there is a list of styles varying from state to state, but Memphis is the only city to get a section all to ourselves.You guys should come to BBQ Fest in May. It is awesome.; 2:01 PM
Seanzie said...: Mike and Ed's is at the corner on College St across from the Spur, I don't know what the other street is called.; 2:01 PM
Unknown said...: Z4Z - your wife is a wrestler? which one? how does her busy travel schedule hurt your relationship? do you travel with her? are the hotels comped? what do you think about all the airline fees nowadays?; 2:03 PM
michael said...: Seanz, my favorite in Auburn was also Mike and Ed's. Pretty good stuff. While Memphis style is my favorite, I do like the spicier mustard based stuff that seemed to rule down south. I am no snob, after all. Well, except for when it comes to the whole vinegar thing.; 2:03 PM
Seanzie said...: College and Mitcham Ave. Right before you get to Glenn coming from 280.; 2:03 PM
Anonymous said...: Thanks, SeanZ. We'll have to check it out - esp.now that I know it has michael's stamp of approval too!; 2:05 PM
Peter Frankenschmidt said...: so, BBQ is like the BC coaching situation?; 2:05 PM
Tar Heel Tiger said...: We (NC) are BBQ!

sorry, I was busy and didn't get a chance to make that bold factual statement in a timely manner.; 2:06 PM
BinOBA said...: I've hit that Memphis in may before for some Panic and some Gov't mule (alan woody gov't mule). Memphis is a great culinary town if you can keep from getting stabbed or shot.; 2:07 PM
Seanzie said...: Heck I might go down there tonight, have dinner and make my way over to the BEMC for basketball, but that's my foolish side talkin...we'll see what happens.; 2:08 PM
Zimas4Ziemba said...: Z4Z - your wife is a wrestler? which one? how does her busy travel schedule hurt your relationship? do you travel with her? are the hotels comped? what do you think about all the airline fees nowadays?
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1) Rarely. Like on my Birthday and Valentine's Day.
2) No comment
3) She is an IHOP waitress, so she doesn't travel very far or often
4) Only when we take the public transportation on Saturday to do our grocery shopping.
5) What does comped mean?
6) I have not had to pay any airline fees ever since O'bama took his rightful place as King of the Free World.; 2:09 PM
BinOBA said...: Everywhere has it's good eats i suppose. I like it here where i am because the spanish influence is prevalent here and i can drive 3hrs to NOLA and it's french influenced there. You don't see the spanish influence here like you once did. Good Spanish rice is hard to come by these days but you can get a bowl of gumbo anywhere.; 2:11 PM
Peter Frankenschmidt said...: please. Your fine neighbor to the south owns that claim. You just copied.; 2:12 PM
Seanzie said...: so we've got 45 minutes until the HABOTN gets hoppin' I wonder what's goin on; 2:12 PM
michael said...: Binoba – the food still tastes good after you’ve been stabbed and shot. Unless, of course, you are spitting up blood.; 2:15 PM
Tar Heel Tiger said...: Peter- North Carolina is a vale of humility between two mountains of conceit (so someone claimed 150 yrs ago).

SC can claim hash. BBQ is ours! We've been kind enough to share it with many other states.; 2:18 PM
Unknown said...: Z4Z - classic answers. I almost spit up my drink...; 2:18 PM
FSJ said...: I'm more of a spicy thin sauce fan

Like Archibald's, Dreamland, etc. They both incorporate ketchup and mustard in theirs to get the "semi-orange" color.

Most commercial sauces are way too thick, IMO.; 2:20 PM
Roland said...: Blues, BBQ and Bullets are what makes Memphis great; 2:21 PM
Tar Heel Tiger said...: NC Barbecue Trail (24 BBQ joints)

http://www.ncbbqsociety.com/trail.html; 2:23 PM
Tar Heel Tiger said...: I'm going to have to print this whole thread. Too many good BBQ suggestions here not to save it for travels (and posterity).; 2:25 PM
FSJ said...: THT:

If I am ever off for several weeks at a time..I am going on tour..

That is if my wife will let me.; 2:27 PM
Zimas4Ziemba said...: Jay G won't tell you, but if the post comments in this thread reach over 200, then Jay G will be as the French say la' furloughed. Please folks, if you must post a comment and thus bring Jay G one step closer to his involuntary sabbatical, please make sure it is not drivelous...; 2:28 PM
Seanzie said...: Drivel. :); 2:29 PM
Norm said...: FSJ - will you tow your new grill behind you on your travels?; 2:29 PM
Tar Heel Tiger said...: FSJ will be showin' them boys how to cook it!; 2:31 PM
Quitstina said...: When did Ziemba start posting when it wasn't a campfire?; 2:31 PM
Seanzie said...: Instead of tanning do Bammers just slather themselves in BBQ sauce and get toasty on their port-a-grills?; 2:33 PM
Tar Heel Tiger said...: FSJ- I was hoping to spend retirement bbq touring. My planned retirement at 80 has now been pushed back to 120.; 2:33 PM
Kathy said...: FYI for whomever was asking the other day, the 2009 football season tickets are $395.; 2:33 PM
Seanzie said...: 395 ain't bad...I'm dreading the bill for my Titans tickets...that's never a fun day.; 2:35 PM
FSJ said...: Here's my pithy comment... ($1 to Bill O'Reilly):

Dreamland sauce starts with Kraft sauce as a base, IMO.

So, knowing that, I came across this clone recipe for Dreamland sauce. This is a pretty close clone for it...It still lacks something and I am working on that..but it is pretty close. Close enough to know it is what they use. If you need it more thin add some more vinegar.

1 qt Kraft bbq sauce (Plain old Kraft)
1/2 c French's yellow
1 c vinegar
1c water
1/2 c molasses
4 tbsp Tabasco
You might also add a TBSP of Rub or Spice Blend to taste...

There is a more prominent clone recipe out there on the internet..I've tried it and although the color is right it doesn't taste the same to me....

Dreamland Clone

And sorry to Jay for turning HABOTN into Food Network...At least I didn't link the clip going around of Paula Deen losing her pants in front of an audience....; 2:38 PM
Zimas4Ziemba said...: $395 would make a lot of single moms happy....; 2:38 PM
Scott M. Brannan said...: i've been dreading paying my Tigers Unlimited donation for my tickets. i've got 2 more days to do that. yikes!; 2:38 PM
scott,will not,from tucson said...: 395 is a lot to pay for the w. va and alabama games. all the other good games are on the road, if i remember correctly.; 2:41 PM
FSJ said...: $395 is not bad at all.; 2:41 PM
Seanzie said...: Ole Miss will be a good game this year...so there's at least one more decent game.; 2:43 PM
FSJ said...: Ole Miss will be a very good game.

In fact, I wouldn't be shocked if they won the west.; 2:44 PM
Jet said...: Quit yer yappin'

If we're playin', it's a game worth seeing.

You get to see Lupe, Troop, Gus and the crew.

You get to see Aycock, Onterrio, DeAngelo and Tyrik

You get to see Eltoro!; 2:45 PM
Seanzie said...: I mean I have no complaints, I went to 2 games last year: LaMo and UTM.; 2:46 PM
Seanzie said...: 200.; 2:46 PM