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6.11.2009

Alabama takes a (small) hit

Hey everyone. I know this is an Auburn blog and all, but we stray from that basis occasionally.

Cecil Hurt of the Tuscaloosa News is reporting that Alabama isn't going to face major sanctions for the textbook scandal that has grabbed headlines during the past nine months or so.

A portion of the story:

It was also not clear if the vacated wins penalty was due to the participation of any of the five players who were suspended for four games in the 2007 season — Antoine Caldwell, Glen Coffee, Marlon Davis, Marquis Johnson and Chris Rogers — or participation by another player or players who should have been ruled ineligible for improperly receiving extra benefits including textbooks or other academic material. Alabama is not expected to vacate its 2007 victory over Tennessee or an Independence Bowl win over Colorado at the end of the 2007 season.

Thoughts?

216 Comments:

Dear Leader said...: time will tell.. just give it a few weeks something else will pop up...

evil breeds evil....; 8:02 AM
Tar Heel Tiger said...: Good morning Dear Leader. I've got a target in mind for one of those new missiles you're testing.; 8:04 AM
Tar Heel Tiger said...: Luv - thanks, I did arrive safely. Lots of great tunes in route (I hereby declare the iPod the greatest invention since music went off the morning radio)

I have also decreed that it is officially lunch time since the refrigerator at this place is broken.; 8:06 AM
AUfan said...: Hopefully, this is just the warm-up for the next round of NCAA sanctions. Is there a more meaningless penalty then taking wins away from a team from 2-3 years ago?; 8:12 AM
Anonymous said...: Sorry, Jay G, I didn't think Coach Quick's thread should have been "muddied" either, but I didn't know when you might start a new one!; 8:13 AM
Anonymous said...: Tar Heel, you need to get satellite radio. I used to be opposed to paying for radio, but now that I have it, it's all I listen to!; 8:14 AM
Anonymous said...: depressed, that's what I was thinking!; 8:14 AM
patdyeswildturkey said...: Word is heads have to roll at Bama for this one, it probably will be Mal Moore, even with his ties to da bear. I hate to say it, he probably had no idea it was going on, but they always shoot the captain of the ship first. Wins vacated is not a big deal in my book, who keeps up, not me. Unless you are Bobby Bowden and it keeps the all times wins record out of your grasp. The bigger issue is that they are on probation, it basically means nothing, not a smidge of issues can come up in those three years or it goes back to Dubose time, thats the bigger issue in my opinion. Ok, enough lets move on shall we.; 8:22 AM
Tar Heel Tiger said...: Luv - with my iPod, there is ZERO risk of a Steely Dan song. I'd rather have talk radio, or even disco, than have one of their songs pop up on the airwaves. Yes, I hate them that much.; 8:23 AM
ehyou said...: Is something else coming Bama's way? Who knows? Who cares? It's all just off-season fodder.

What I do care about is seeing Auburn play football this fall. I can't wait!!; 8:25 AM
Tar Heel Tiger said...: ehyou - according to Walter Reeves, it's 86 days.; 8:27 AM
Unknown said...: I find this kind of hilarious because it has been such a big topic for so long. The biggest part of the penalties is Bama being on probation for 3 years. The rest of the penalties are pretty much meaningless.; 8:28 AM
ehyou said...: THT...
I can understand not being your favorite, but how can you hate Steely Dan? They are one of my 5 favorite groups ever. I have all seven of their albums on my i-pod. They are consummate musicians and music doesn't get much tighter.; 8:30 AM
Scott M. Brannan said...: Walter Reeves...if anyone has an autographed picture of him i need it for my collection. i can't find him anywhere. :); 8:32 AM
Eddie McCoy said...: Thank God this is finally coming out so that we can on from something that was never going to be anything.; 8:33 AM
Norm said...: THT & ehyou - I've seen more concerts than I can remember. One of them was Steely Dan. From a sheer talent and musical point of view, that was the absolute without a doubt best ever. There have been others I've enjoyed more for one reason or another, but that's that.; 8:35 AM
Tar Heel Tiger said...: ehyou - they sing about the infidels. 'nuff said. Oh wait, not 'nuff said.
I HATE BAMA!!!
Now 'nuff said

I loved me some Travelin' Shoes by Elvin Bishop this morning; 8:38 AM
Fearless Freep said...: Nice avatar, Norm.; 8:41 AM
ehyou said...: Oh, I see. They do mention the crimson tide in Deacon Blues. I guess if I wasn't a fan, that would be enough to sway me the other way too.; 8:42 AM
weagle251 said...: This comment has been removed by the author.; 8:42 AM
ehyou said...: THT...
Now we can agree on Bishop. I don't have any of his solo stuff, but I do have 2 Paul Butterfield albums that he was on. Michael Bloomfield ain't bad either.; 8:44 AM
Hornet said...: News last night reported 3 years of probation which could be the biggest deal in all of this. Any violation might be the tipping point with the NCAA after the last 15 years of repeated violations. Even secondary violations may be a bigger deal for them now.; 8:45 AM
Tar Heel Tiger said...: ehyou, this is a family blog; please refrain from using profanity ;-); 8:46 AM
ehyou said...: Since my fingers had never typed those words, I had to peck it out with my index fingers.; 8:48 AM
Tar Heel Tiger said...: I only have a couple of Elvin Bishop tunes, but Travelin' Shoes is by far the best. Great guitar; 8:48 AM
Tar Heel Tiger said...: next time, peck it out with your middle finger; 8:49 AM
ehyou said...: Well played THT, well played.; 8:51 AM
Fearless Freep said...: BTW, since the Gene Jelks allegations surfaced in November 1992, not a day has passed wherein the University of Alabama's major revenue-generating sports (football and men's basketball) were not either (a) under NCAA investigation, (b) on NCAA probation, or (c) actively committing violations that later led to (a) and (b).; 8:51 AM
ehyou said...: THT...
I've been wondering, where were you from about Feb through Apr? If it's personal, feel free to rebuke me.; 8:52 AM
Tar Heel Tiger said...: I'm just glad we haven't been caught lately, knock on wood.

I wonder if Willis would have stooped so low and, if under the spell of the one who wears the mark of the beast, would report himself (i.e. his former employer) to NCAA; 8:54 AM
Seanzie said...: Can you be vindicated when you admit wrongdoing?

A salsa shark is nothing more than a tortilla chip that wasn't strong enough.

Here's to another 3 years of the University of Alabama being under probation!; 8:56 AM
Tar Heel Tiger said...: This comment has been removed by the author.; 8:58 AM
mrdude said...: This isn't even a slap on the wrist considering it happened during the 5 year probationary period. I was expecting much worse, and Alabama should feel lucky if thats all they receive.; 8:58 AM
Tar Heel Tiger said...: Actually, THT was placed in a medically induced coma by the Habotn team physician.; 9:02 AM
Tar Heel Tiger said...: Sean, help!!! There's no refrigerator to keep my stash of DCs cold :-(; 9:06 AM
Monica said...: How do you rank a guy the number 1 corner back in the country when he hasn't played CB since early in his 9th grade year?

The more I learn about the ranking the more I think they are poppycock.; 9:13 AM
Tar Heel Tiger said...: Why doesn't HABOTN start it's own non-poppycock recruit rankings?; 9:17 AM
Luke said...: If the Gadsden rumors ever produce fruit, this could make the hammer fall that much harder. Lull the bammies into a sense of relief, then hit em hard; 9:18 AM
Tar Heel Tiger said...: we've got the expert analysis of JayGT and Omnica, who knows all the recruits, not biblically, but in a facebook sort of way.; 9:19 AM
Tar Heel Tiger said...: is FSJ handing out free 3g iPhones to all the bammer recruits up in Gadsden?; 9:22 AM
Monica said...: We can assign them scoops? We want 5 Scoop Recruits?; 9:27 AM
Tar Heel Tiger said...: GREAT idea, Monica. Anything that reminds me of ice cream has got to be great!!!; 9:30 AM
Scott M. Brannan said...: so, you could have a 5-Scoop recruit with sprinkles and a cherry on top? now that would be a stud prospect right there.; 9:30 AM
Monica said...: I even like saying "5 Scoop Recruit".

I bet Jet could write a wicked tune for that.; 9:32 AM
Eddie McCoy said...: I can hear "5 Scoop Recruit" being played to "Hard Days Night". I'm sure Jet could run with that one.; 9:33 AM
Tar Heel Tiger said...: and anytime bama gets a commit we could watch the scoops melt away!; 9:33 AM
Tar Heel Tiger said...: Guess what Hotties, it's your lucky hour. I have to do some work now.; 9:39 AM
FSJ said...: I'll take it and run.; 9:45 AM
Seanzie said...: THT, get those guys on ice...they're much better that way.; 9:46 AM
chip chip said...: vindication by verification of the fact bammer was cheating across the board by handing out textbooks? football dodged this bullet for the most part (and rightfully so) but other sports were a little more reckless. i'll be interested to see what they get.

this ruling being handed down is extremely important irregardless of the sanctions imposed at this time and regardless of the spin that comes out. it extends the repeat violator window for another x number of years. if there is anything to ANY of the numerous rumors of cars, cash and jobs, they'll be begging to give back their 36-0 win.

think about it. if the ncaa already has tag#s vin#s and much other evidence of alleged REC recruiting activities, as is being rumored, why do anything more than go ahead and vacate their football wins for this offense? the heavy stuff will come later if that is the case. it would be like hitting an elephant with a fly swatter before dropping a nuke on him.

i still think there are too many bammer players driving nice new cars and too many other individual rumors surfacing that at least one or two of them have some truth in there somewhere. patience will be what it needed. the ncaa moves at its own pace and knows two speeds. slow and slower.; 9:51 AM
Monica said...: Update from Digger:

Mrs. Digger is off the ventilator during the day and she (and therefore Digger) are sleeping much better at night.; 9:54 AM
Seanzie said...: Good news Mon!; 9:58 AM
Anonymous said...: Chip...I can feel your passion, but IF anything comes out of "The Great Gadsden", it will be a while. It probably serves both fanbases well to just let it die until something does show up.

Now...after saying that.....did you read the post over on one of the UGA/AJC blogs from the guy that lives in Fla? He is from Gadsden and his family works in the school system. If there is any cred to his story...then there is a fire burning in Gadsden.; 9:59 AM
Anonymous said...: Thanks Mon...prayers sent for Mrs. Digger and the Quick family.; 10:00 AM
Monica said...: Hoopie you can't dangle a treat like that in front of us and not give us a link! :-); 10:00 AM
michael said...: When I read the title to this thread, my first thought was Nick Saban smoking a little pot.; 10:05 AM
Eddie McCoy said...: Good news Mon!; 10:08 AM
BinOBA said...: Jay, you/ve made it to the bigtime!!! You got a bama douchebag hangin out to post first on your blog. Bless his heart.; 10:15 AM
Anonymous said...: What kind of punishment is vacating victories? It's not like we didn't win those games on the field. Just more of the NCAA and their bogus rulings.

As far as Gadsden, there is nothing going on there except Saban locking the best players from there into the Crimson Tide fold.; 10:17 AM
Monica said...: Scott CHOCOLATE!!! You are SO my favorite and you know why!!; 10:17 AM
Aeronaut said...: Thank you, monica, for the update.

Salsa, being a bammer, does not know the meaning of the word 'Vindication'. Too many syllables for a bammer's IQ.

I'm going to wait till verification of the 'slap on the wrist' before commenting on it. Considering that most of the bammer football players do not know what 'books' are, I was not expecting too much of football involvement.; 10:20 AM
Anonymous said...: Updated: June 11, 2009, 11:19 AM ET
Sources: At least 21 Bama wins at stakeComment Email Print Share ESPN.com news services

The NCAA will reveal later Thursday that the Alabama football program must vacate victories from 2005 through 2007 that included players who improperly got free textbooks for other students, the Birmingham News is reporting.

I am just saying ESPN is saying otherwise.; 10:23 AM
Unknown said...: Steely Dan is obviously very talented. You can tell because they definitely didn't get by on their looks. Now, the funny part of Steely Dan is where their name came from.; 10:25 AM
BinOBA said...: yall go over to some other blogs and see if you can find some of mr salsa sharks former brilliance in the forums.He's just full of..... "personality" Bless his heart.; 10:25 AM
BinOBA said...: steely dan took jazz and applied to rock music. They're pretty amazing,oh and i'm gonna go see them this weekend.; 10:26 AM
Unknown said...: Salsa never seems to have anything to say but says it anyway. He is a non-story.; 10:30 AM
BinOBA said...: milton burles wife must be proud.; 10:42 AM
Unknown said...: Steely Dan got their name out of a book. Steely Dan was the name given a device, ummmm, that a woman uses to pleasure herself.; 10:45 AM
Anonymous said...: Steve, I don't mean to sound like a b****, but everyone knows that.; 10:47 AM
Anonymous said...: Tar Heel Tiger said...
"next time, peck it out with your middle finger."

Tar Heel, that made me LOL!; 10:48 AM
Unknown said...: Hahaha, or possibly every woman:); 10:49 AM
michael said...: Steely Dan is one of those bands I tried to force myself to like. Just never happened. Their name is fitting since their songs sound like porno music.; 10:51 AM
Tar Heel Tiger said...: Michael is indeed my hero.

SteveFC - well...that's another reason for me to hate them. Thankfully, MrsTHT doesn't need any Steely Dan...music.; 10:53 AM
Monica said...: puhleeze; 10:54 AM
Unknown said...: I actually like Steely Dan, but I will never admit it. It definitely isn't macho.; 10:54 AM
Unknown said...: It really tickles me to see a Bambi refer to Bama being put on probation again as vindication. Such is the bizarre mind of a Bambi.; 10:56 AM
Seanzie said...: What about OLD Steely Dan?; 10:58 AM
Seanzie said...: In today's market Steely Dan wouldn't have a chance.; 10:58 AM
Unknown said...: Well, seeing that music pretty much dies in the early 90s, Steely Dan wouldn't fit. I do hate it for the kids these days because the music they are growing up with is so simple and frankly boring.; 11:01 AM
michael said...: I think they would, Sean. They were never really mainstream after Reelin in the Years anyway, so they are perfect for the snooty internet generation.; 11:01 AM
AUfan said...: Steve, anything short of major penalties is now considered a victory by the Bama Nation. I expect to see "Got minor penalties? We Do!" T-shirts in the near future celebrating their latest milestone.; 11:02 AM
Unknown said...: Three years probation isn't minor, but it certainly isn't as bad as it could have been. Their penalties actually turned out being a bit more severe than I had anticipated.; 11:05 AM
Aeronaut said...: ESPN fantasy matchup puts AU vs ND at the top of the list.

ESPN Fantasy Matchups

I'd LOVE to see us play ND.; 11:07 AM
michael said...: So can the Alabama football team not travel to other states without contacting their parole officer?; 11:11 AM
Unknown said...: I would love to see Florida State play Penn State. Bowden vs Paterno would be huge.; 11:15 AM
Aeronaut said...: I thought AU-Furman was a bad bad matchup.

But I am amazed that bammers play some mighty hard teams like Florida international goldfish, north Texas sparrows and Chattanooga gerbils.; 11:20 AM
ehyou said...: Aero...
Mansell says it wouldn't be a very competitive game. I thought ND was supposed to be decent this year? I guess he knows they can't hang in the SEC.; 11:24 AM
Tar Heel Tiger said...: it's a shame ND refuses to play us.; 11:25 AM
michael said...: Penn St and Florida St played in a BCS bowl just a couple of years ago. I don't think I would have put that one the list.; 11:25 AM
AUfan said...: Does Bobby Bowden even know what Fla St's playbook contains anymore? It is embarassing to watch a sideline reporter ask him a question, and see him try to gather his thoughts to answer in a reasonable way. It's really sad to see.; 11:38 AM
BinOBA said...: Renaldo to real madrid. Real madrid is going new york yankees on everyone and is gonna buy them a champeen-ship. Kaka and Renaldo should make real madrid unstoppable, if they can share the ball, we'll see.; 11:39 AM
Tar Heel Tiger said...: I wouldn't mind AU vs Pitt, only cause I like visiting both places.

I think we should renew our rivalries with Fort Benning, Maxwell Field, and Georgia Navy P-F.
Those are regional teams so I'm sure the stadium would be full. I've heard there fans travel well.; 11:39 AM
Tar Heel Tiger said...: oops, *their
there now, I feel better; 11:40 AM
Anonymous said...: BinOBA, what are you talking about??; 11:43 AM
Tar Heel Tiger said...: he's talking Futbol, Luv.

THTjr would understand, me, not so much.; 11:47 AM
BinOBA said...: competitive pet grooming; 11:47 AM
Anonymous said...: After reading it several times, that's what I assumed.; 11:48 AM
Anonymous said...: and I was responding to Tar Heel.

BinOBA, are you being serious or a smarta**?; 11:49 AM
BinOBA said...: I'd love to have a reason to go to Pittsburgh and eat at Permanti brothers deli.; 11:49 AM
BinOBA said...: i was being a smart-aleck. I'm talking european football. I save the competitive pet grooming talk to all the bama blogs i visit daily.; 11:50 AM
Tar Heel Tiger said...: ReeAL Madrid is one of the greatest soccer, oops, excuse moi, football teams in Europe. If you want to know more, they have a home page and a wikipedia entry. It certainly won't offend me if you don't want to know more about them. I don't either.; 11:52 AM
Tar Heel Tiger said...: BinOBA - I would very much like to also recommend

http://prantlsbakery.com/; 11:53 AM
Anonymous said...: LOL; 11:54 AM
Aeronaut said...: LuvAU's last comments matched the innocent curiosity of the picture in her avatar.; 11:54 AM
BinOBA said...: that's nice tht, anything else you don't want to know any more about but care to comment on?; 11:54 AM
BinOBA said...: oh yeah, i've been all over p'burg. My father in law has a lil stroke up there and shows me a great time every time i go.; 11:57 AM
BinOBA said...: ok, time killin is over, off to work, yall have a good day and take care.; 11:58 AM
Tar Heel Tiger said...: somebody call a code!; 12:33 PM
Tar Heel Tiger said...: what seems to be the problem?; 12:34 PM
Tar Heel Tiger said...: the thread is about to Will; 12:34 PM
Tar Heel Tiger said...: Just step back and give it room to breathe. All it needs is a little oxygen and it will be fine.; 12:35 PM
Seanzie said...: I need a charge...clear!; 12:36 PM
Tar Heel Tiger said...: Sean, start a Diet Coke IV, STAT!; 12:38 PM
Scott M. Brannan said...: THT,

"DID YOU ORDER THE CODE RED?"; 12:39 PM
Tar Heel Tiger said...: Yo Scottie B, I think we've got a pulse!; 12:41 PM
Tar Heel Tiger said...: sorry, I can't remember Jack's lines.; 12:42 PM
Seanzie said...: 500ml DC flowing, doc; 12:42 PM
Seanzie said...: He says something along the lines of "YOU'RE GD RIGHT I DID!"; 12:43 PM
Tar Heel Tiger said...: Since I would be a huge Braves fan if I still paid attention to besball, someone tell me where the Braves are in the standings.; 12:47 PM
Seanzie said...: Braves are about 6 back from the Phils and 2 back from the Mets. They were on a 3 game streak but lost a nailbiter last night. They finish the series with Pitt tonight and then go on the road to visit Baltimore, Cincy and Boston.; 12:48 PM
Seanzie said...: THT, I have a blog, you can find it my profile, that chronicles the Braves.; 12:48 PM
Scott Chocolate said...: I recommend an all-syrup Squishy to ensure an entertaining continuation of the recently revived thread.; 12:50 PM
Tar Heel Tiger said...: We lived in Pittsburgh back when Bonds was a skinny kid and Sid Bream was jetting around third for the Braves. It was great. I was one of the few people in that city happy with the outcome 2 years in a row. I've always liked the Pirates, but the Braves were on a whole nuther level of love.; 12:52 PM
Jay G. Tate said...: Just returned home after my big sit-down interview with Gene and Jonna Chizik.

We talked about football only in the peripheral sense. It was mostly about their relationship, who Gene was, who Gene is, how Jonna envisions her role as the first lady of Auburn football.

I think you'll enjoy the story when it drops ... at some point in July.; 12:52 PM
Unknown said...: Track Em Tigers has a nice overview of the SEC and what the trend is for each team. In general, I agree with the assessment.; 12:55 PM
Anonymous said...: Auburn is self reporting secondary violations evidently?; 12:56 PM
Tar Heel Tiger said...: now that is a Braves fan. Nice work, Sean!

I'm so pathetic the only name I know now is Chipper Jones. I miss the days of Cha Cha, the Kitten, Felipe, the Hammer, the BEEEG Boy, and Milo Hamilton.; 12:56 PM
Tar Heel Tiger said...: Thanks Jay GT! I can't wait, but I guess I will.; 12:57 PM
Tar Heel Tiger said...: other than Luper's phone number on Facebook, you heard something else AU1N04?; 1:00 PM
Anonymous said...: Marshall mentioned that Toomer's corner was an issue; 1:01 PM
Seanzie said...: I love me some secondary violations.; 1:03 PM
Tar Heel Tiger said...: I think PMarsh misunderstood. It wasn't an issue, it was covered in tissue.; 1:04 PM
Anonymous said...: Now THAT is funny!; 1:05 PM
Anonymous said...: Hmmm...Salsa Shark's comment "mysteriously" disappeared...; 1:05 PM
Anonymous said...: Daaah da dah duh
Daaah da dah duh daaaaaah; 1:07 PM
Seanzie said...: Good catch, Luv!; 1:07 PM
Anonymous said...: Someone told me that the whole Toomer's Corner thing shouldn't be an issue...but with my stml, I forget why!; 1:08 PM
Tar Heel Tiger said...: Dear Leader is back on top where he belongs.; 1:09 PM
Tar Heel Tiger said...: I think salsa had to vacate the win.; 1:10 PM
Anonymous said...: I'm literally LOL, Tar Heel! You're on fiyah today!; 1:10 PM
Anonymous said...: Must be that DC IV.; 1:11 PM
Anonymous said...: Now THAT is also funny!; 1:11 PM
Seanzie said...: He is, it's that 500ml drip I started for him.; 1:11 PM
Seanzie said...: Luv, you stole my thunder!; 1:11 PM
Anonymous said...: Best sentence I have read today! It was an oopsie!

But Alabama administrators asked the NCAA to recognize that many of the athletes did not mean to violate the rules, and that the school has since fixed the system.

Does that mean they fired this person?

Documents have shown that the violations were discovered by a University of Alabama Supply Store employee after seeing one student's account in excess of $1,600.; 1:13 PM
Tar Heel Tiger said...: I need a bolus, not a drip!; 1:13 PM
Anonymous said...: Sorry, Seanzie!; 1:13 PM
Anonymous said...: "...many of the student athletes didn't mean to violate the rules..."

I have to call BS on that one!; 1:16 PM
Seanzie said...: Ignorance is not a defense for breaking the rules.; 1:17 PM
Anonymous said...: They knew exactly what they were doing and they knew it was wrong.; 1:18 PM
Jay G. Tate said...: I would not be surprised if Auburn turns in a secondary or two from Big Cat Weekend.

The pep rally is pretty clearly against NCAA rules, though the transgression isn't going to draw a harsh penalty. Auburn (and every other school) self-reports secondaries pretty frequently.

You just don't hear about them.; 1:20 PM
Anonymous said...: How is a pep rally against NCAA rules?; 1:21 PM
Tar Heel Tiger said...: well crap, I've got work to do :-( I'll try to check back in b4 the long commute; 1:22 PM
Anonymous said...: JGT - While you bring that up...why have we heard more about them recently ie. UT and Kiffin, AU and the like?

Is it because they are new Coaches?; 1:25 PM
Aubie said...: My favorite scene from HABOTN Redemption

Warden Salsa Shark: [frustrated] Lord, it's a miracle! Post up and vanished like a fart in the wind! Nothing left but some damn rocks on the windowsill. And that cupcake on the wall! Let's ask her, maybe she knows.

Warden Salsa Shark: [to poster poster of Omnica on wall] What say you there, fuzzy-britches?; 1:29 PM
Unknown said...: Since Auburn didn't sponsor the rolling of Toomer's, I don't think that is specifically a violation. I do think there are likely a few secondary violations that came from that, which shouldn't be a big deal. They will likely tweak Big Cat Weekend for next season.; 1:31 PM
Jay G. Tate said...: NCAA Bylaw 13.10.5 prohibits teams from promoting a prospect's visit or participating ``in team activities that would make the public or media aware of the prospective student-athlete's visit to the institution (e.g., running out of the tunnel with team, celebratory walks to or around the stadium/arena, on-field pregame celebrations)."

The pep rally was planned, included lots of regular fans and those fans knew to be there because the information was disseminated through several channels.

A few HOTTIES even discussed plans to attend the event earlier that day.; 1:35 PM
Jay G. Tate said...: That looks like a violation to me.

Again, it's not a violation that's going to affect the team much ... if at all.; 1:36 PM
Tar Heel Tiger said...: I'm not sure who I learned about it from, but it certainly wasn't AU. Of course, my source may have heard about it from AU.

Hotties, let's all meet and roll Toomer's Corner on the first Saturday evening of June next year in celebration of the school year being over. Anyone in town is welcome to attend this non-athletic function.; 1:47 PM
Bellefay1 said...: Sports radio in Atlanta is getting a chuckle out of the Alabama "Did we really win that many games when Shula was here?" punishment.

It's funny to me how the NCAA picks and chooses it's battles. With the MLB draft being this week, ESPN was running the story with Strasburg and how Scott Boras was his "advisor" and not his agent. I know the NCAA is competing with the MLB to get some talent in their ranks with baseball but what would happen in say, Anotonio Coleman went ahead and got Pay Dye Jr. as his special advisor for his future but didn't call him his agent?

In a few years, you had Dwayne Jarrett having his rent paid(despite not having a job, he got off with paying it back), the whole Reggie Bush/agent thing and OJ Mayo and the crack team at yahoo sports appears to have done more investigating then the whole NCAA. Oklahoma had Rhett Bomar getting a cushy job and the NCAA was on them in a heartbeat.

Alabama is now more or less breaking rules while on probation and they get more probation? I hope the national media makes as much of a joke as possible of this "punishment" b/c that's what it is.; 1:50 PM
Anonymous said...: Jay G, what about when they invite recruits to football games? They actually have them stand inside the ropes at Tiger Walk (I know because every week they stand in front of me and I can't see!) and they stand on the sidelines. There's media all over. How is that different?

I'm not trying to be a smarta**. This is a sincere question.; 2:08 PM
Tar Heel Tiger said...: 3 more years in the sin bin for bama. Is it wrong of me to hope for more. Wrong? Of course not. Immature? Perhaps, but certainly not wrong.; 2:18 PM
Anonymous said...: Where has Jet been today?; 2:20 PM
Jet said...: JET'S RULE OF RECRUITING NO. 1

"If you ain't secondary violatin', you ain't tryin'."; 2:21 PM
Tar Heel Tiger said...: is he still at Camp War Eagle?; 2:21 PM
Anonymous said...: Was he spending the weekend too?; 2:23 PM
Jet said...: Just got back to the Gump ... got a lot of work to do ... leaving for Minneapolis tomorrow through Tuesday.

I'll join the fray later.; 2:25 PM
Tar Heel Tiger said...: Minneapolis??? That's a fer piece!; 2:27 PM
Jay G. Tate said...: Having recruits at an event isn't a problem.

It's when you promote the fact that recruits are there ... that's when the problems begin.

You can't tell me the rolling of Toomer's Corner was a spontaneous show of support. Auburn people were told to be there and, as such, it's reasonable to assume details of that event were "leaked" to create a buzz that would impress the recruits.; 2:27 PM
Anonymous said...: Gotcha. Thanks, Jay G!

Well, gotta let the boys in. It's hot out there! It's also about nap time!; 2:29 PM
Tar Heel Tiger said...: what if a recruit mentioned it on his FB and that is how word got out, hypothetically speaking. I wonder if that would be a violation.; 2:31 PM
Tar Heel Tiger said...: if not, then I'm sure that's what happened ;-); 2:32 PM
Tar Heel Tiger said...: I can just see NCAA outlawing Monica from becoming FB friends with high school boys :-(; 2:33 PM
Scott Chocolate said...: Harrison, when you make an appearance, I'll give you the breakdown on today's "real" beer purchases, if you're interested. I'm excited about what I got, but worried about whether it will make it until I leave for the beach on Saturday. I'd better put it where I can't see it.; 2:59 PM
Jet said...: OK, I am challening myself to come up with, before the end of the night, the lyrics to "Five Scoop Recruit," which I think -- think -- will be to the tune of "Little Red Corvette" by Prince.

We'll see.; 3:25 PM
Aeronaut said...: I've nothing to say, and no one to say it to, but I can say it in three different languages.; 3:53 PM
Jet said...: I will apologize to Prince this weekend in Minneapolis ...

"FIVE SCOOP RECRUIT" by Prince, arranged Jet.

I guess I shoulda known
The way u ran a 4.3
Leavin’ us all aghast

See you’re the kinda playa
That believes in takin’ all his visits
Love ‘em and leave ‘em fast

I guess I must be dumb
‘Cuz I went down to Toomer’s
Along with some of you

But it was Big Cat Night
I guess that makes it all right
And I say what have I got 2 lose?
Honey, I say

Five Scoop Recruit
Baby, you’re much 2 fast
Five Scoop Recruit
U need a love that’s gonna last

I guess I shoulda closed my eyes
When I dreamed of you runnin’
For a 90-yard TD

‘Cuz I felt a little ill
When I saw all your pictures
Of the coaches that were there before Chiz.

Believe it or not
I started to worry
About your senior Math class

But it was Big Cat night
I guess that makes it all right
And I say, baby, have u got yo ACT?
Oh yeah

Five Scoop Recruit
Baby youre much 2 fast, yes u r
Five Scoop Recruit
U need 2 find a love that’s gonna last

Calves like yours (calves like yours)
Monica’s gonna be in jail (oughta be in jail)
cuz its on the verge of bein’ obscene
(cuz its on the verge of bein’ obscene)

Sign here baby (sign here baby)
Gimme UAT their keys (gimme the Charger keys)
We’re gonna hook up to Trooper’s adrenaine machine

Five Scoop Recruit
Baby, you’re much too fast
Five Scoop Recruit
U need 2 find a love that’s gonna last

Five Scoop Recruit
Honey, u got 2 qualify (got 2 qualify)
Five Scoop Recruit
cuz if u dont u gonna run your
Butt off to prep school; 3:57 PM
Unknown said...: Bellefay1, I actually think Bama's punishment was more severe than I anticipated. This textbook thing was not nearly as big of a deal as the press made out. Bama self reported it when they discovered the problem. Being put on probation for 3 more years is significant since during that time a major violation could cost you a football team.; 3:59 PM
Unknown said...: Jay, the most damning evidence I see is that Aubie attended the event. But on the other hand if I have heard correctly there weren't a lot of people there, around 100. If Auburn can't get more than 100 people to a pep rally, there is something terribly wrong. I don't believe the school planned the event, but the certainly used it and there may be issues with regard to that.; 4:03 PM
michael said...: Aubie was just on his way to Bodega's, and he got caught up with the atmosphere like everyone else.; 4:12 PM
michael said...: You see, Aubie has a bit of a drinking problem.; 4:20 PM
Tar Heel Tiger said...: Jet - you should be a lyricist. you can get royalties doncha know; 4:22 PM
michael said...: I wonder why Aubie drinks so much. It probably stems from the fact that he has never won that Capital One Mascot Challenge thing. Or maybe it's because he kind of wonders if he made the right choices in life. After all, the football games and the adoration of the kids are nice, but would he rather be stalking prey in the jungles of India and leading a more simple, less anthropomorphic life?; 4:23 PM
Tar Heel Tiger said...: I just think he's self-conscious about his big feet.; 4:33 PM
Jay G. Tate said...: I am about to start another coaching profile. I think I'll make this one about Jay Boulware.

I'm dangling that Trooper Taylor report like a carrot, I tell ya.; 4:42 PM
Jay G. Tate said...: Steve, it was 100 people rolling the trees on a Friday.

What were they celebrating?; 4:43 PM
Tar Heel Tiger said...: D-Day Eve?; 4:45 PM
Tar Heel Tiger said...: cinqo de juno?; 4:47 PM
Tar Heel Tiger said...: I like carrots; 4:48 PM
Aubie said...: It's not just Aubie's feet that are big!; 4:52 PM
Jay G. Tate said...: May His judgment cometh, and that right soon!

(Your pic made me say that, Aubie.); 4:56 PM
Tar Heel Tiger said...: MissTHT -I'm logged into google now.
(Sorry to the Hotties for this personal message); 5:05 PM
AUfan said...: The celebration was in anticipation of Auburn being named one of the 10 best places to live in the U.S. Trooper is also a psychic.; 5:08 PM
Aubie said...: How can you be so obtuse?; 5:17 PM
Jet said...: I'd like think that the last thing that went through Saban's mind, other than Eltoro's foot, was how in the hell Gene Chizik got the best of him.; 5:21 PM
Aubie said...: Nothing stops. Nothing... or you will do the hardest time there is. No more protection from the Red Elephant Club. I'll pull you out of that one-bunk Hilton and cast you down with the Sodomites and Bammers. You'll think you've been hit by a train! And the football complex? Gone... sealed off, brick-by-brick. We'll have us a little book barbecue in the yard. They'll see the flames for miles. We'll dance around it like wild Injuns! You understand me? Catching my drift?... Or am I being obtuse?; 5:40 PM
Aeronaut said...: Why do I have no idea what the heck is going on?

Maybe because it's 5 in the morning here?; 5:43 PM
NoVaTiger said...: I got the impression reading the release on the violations that the committee was getting really fed up with seeing Bama all the time. I think the 3 years probation was a warning that they had better not be in front of them again.; 5:44 PM
Aeronaut said...: But I do not like scrolling all the way down to find out if anyone said anything that might make sense to me.; 5:44 PM
Aeronaut said...: So help me God, lets turn the page.; 5:45 PM